LOST: Season Six - Wano Edition

StrawHatRican

Nah, I'm pretty sure Dave was a hallucination. Dave first appeared when Hurley was in the mental hospital (where Smokey couldn't have been anyway) and Smokey can only take the form of dead people. As far as I know, I don't think he can take the form of imaginary people.

I'm inclined to believe Hurley was never "crazy" to begin with to be honest.

I think he ALWAYS had the gift to see dead people… we just didn't know back then.

It's not like he actually acted like a madman... scared yes; irrational at times perhaps.

But never batshit crazy.

maxterdexter

He got a little crazy by deniying his powers and killing (by his own opinion) the people on the deck, so he didn't see dead people and got evil luck.

People who were dead and their corpses weren't on the island but apareraed on the island:
Ben's mom.
Richard's wife.

People who were dead, and their corpses on the island but there wasn't any smokey:
Jacob's mom (probably just to MIB)

Richard's I'm willing to say alucination, his days on the black rock were tough.
Ben's… ... ... ...

Refii

Lost was pretty funny!

StrawHatRican

:V lmao~!!!!

The Locke and Jack ones were particularly hilarious.

Nobodyman

The alternate endings were pretty cool, but I loved this other bit they did on Jimmy Kimmel.

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I love Josh dancing at the end.

maxterdexter

The pilot episodes, do they have a true name?

I think that most series name their pilots, but the title "Pilot" overides them..

And Cindy and the Kids, I know that Hurley will take good care of them, but the FIVE MINUTES TO MAKE THE CHAPTER LAST 108 MINUTES could have been spent on Locke finding them in the middle of his walk, sending them to the boat, and just being background escaping people in the final run..

Samstrike

Oh nice! Michael Emerson confirm an epilogue with Ben and Hurley as a bonus on the dvd!

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b183093_lost_epilogue_with_hurley_ben_revealed.html

Bucephalus

@Samstrike:

Oh nice! Michael Emerson confirm an epilogue with Ben and Hurley as a bonus on the dvd!

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b183093_lost_epilogue_with_hurley_ben_revealed.html

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StrawHatRican

@Bucephalus:

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^ this

If I wasn't planning on buying this box set (which I was) my curiosity IS piqued.

maxterdexter

mmmmmm epiloge with my favorite characters

Greg

Zach. I can and will answer literally all but three of those questions on the coming podcast.

Annie is a complete loose end and they not only admitted to it but also COMPLETELY fucked up in the podcast by melding 'The Other Woman' and 'The Man Behind the Curtain' in their minds. I will assume they dropped Annie and Goodwin's jealous wife because of:

1. Lack of time (GODDAMN TRUNCATED SEASONS)
2. Unavailablity of thesps.

It's quite possible the individuals shooting at them were also probably intended to be wrapped up as Widmore's men but at the end it would seem a bit ridiculous to have Sawyer and company flash in and flash out just like that.

She probably came from another country, just like everyone else. Jacob who we once thought was a deity, was just a guy. Just as she was probably just a lady. The important thing was, they wanted it to be a mother responsible for everything as previously it was father figures who drove most actions.

And judging from the skeletons in the Source cave, she probably wasn't the first protector either. Not that those skeletons were protectors, just that the battle for balance has been going on as long as humans have been alive, which makes sense since it's probably the source of all life.

Oh nice! Michael Emerson confirm an epilogue with Ben and Hurley as a bonus on the dvd!

DARLTON HAVE MY BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StrawHatRican

This is important:

"The plug in the Source has markings on it. The clearest markings are cuneiform script. This form of writing was used for a very long time by different civilizations in the area that is now Iraq, notably Akkadian/Sumerian language groups C5000-1000BC."

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Greg's theory of the Island being the Source of Life/Religion is suddenly looking MORE and MORE plausible.

project1980

@Samstrike:

Oh nice! Michael Emerson confirm an epilogue with Ben and Hurley as a bonus on the dvd!

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b183093_lost_epilogue_with_hurley_ben_revealed.html

Faraday is expressing my feelings right now.

The Iceman

This epilogue will redeem the finale for me.

Greg

In twelve minutes they're going to change your opinion of 2 hours? That's some pretty high expectations.

Refii

Technically, the church won't be the final act, so yes, the finale would be Hurley and Ben as Jacob and Richard answering some more questions and eating fried chicken, that grows on trees.

Nobodyman

Bringing this over from the LOL thread (thanks AtARU).

Also, here's another random mystery/question. Was it really Jacob that said "Help me" when Locke and Ben went to the cabin?

Greg

Big time. Although he may not have physically been there, he was able to communicate. At that point the ash was still present and appeared to be intact which means MiB couldn't have gotten in himself. Unless he was 100% trolling the evr-living out of Locke.

The Iceman

@Greg:

In twelve minutes they're going to change your opinion of 2 hours? That's some pretty high expectations.

2 and a 1/2 actually. And yes it will, since it will be what I wanted to see in the first place.

project1980

@Nobodyman:

Bringing this over from the LOL thread (thanks AtARU).

http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif

Also, here's another random mystery/question. Was it really Jacob that said "Help me" when Locke and Ben went to the cabin?

More of this please

maxterdexter

Carlton Cuse: The connection between the imaginary Dave and Dave his father was completely intentional, I mean we wanted basically Hurley to imagine a friend and have that be wrapped up in his unresolved relationship with his dad, so that’s why his imaginary friend is named Dave.

There goes my theory of Hurley's powers being manifested that early.

Aparently, the monster can take the shape of people that never existed…

According to Lost Encyclopedia writer Tara Bennett, The Man in Black was able to read Hurley's mind and manifest himself as Dave because Dave never existed and, therefore, The Man in Black didn't need a body and "Hurley was always going to see what he wanted to see anyway and The Smoke Monster could kind of take advantage of that."

I'm... not satisfied with the "Truth"

Zach Logan

So Greg mentioned it, we're recording a podcast (myself, Ed, and Greg) to look back on the series. If I know us, it'll be longer than I anticipate, but either way we hope you guys will give it a listen. Feel free to call in at the One Piece Podcast number for the special episode (347-497-6254) or email us at LostTheEndPodcast@gmail.com.

I don't know where we're going to put it, so for those Twitter-ers, check the updates at www.twitter.com/LostTheEnd

/shamelessplug

Domino

I just thought of something that may (albeit, not really convincingly) help my broken theory. When Walt appeared before Shannon and Sayid, both times he wasn't able to speak, and was unable to properly interact. Maybe this is because Smokey needs a corpse to be able to assume all facets of someone. Man, discussing LOST is going to be fun for years to come.

OnePark

I wonder if the Hurley and Ben special will be on the Final Season DVD, or would one have to buy the complete collection? I'm willing to double-dip, just wondering…

goty

I was just rewatching the pilot and remembered about Cindy…we never knew why she joined the Others or even what happened to her in the end. Did she and the tail kids die or what? What's the point of bringing her back?
As the only MiB random follower with a name, she deserved better. Oh well, maybe she and the other survivors will show up on said epilogue.

Greg

2 and a 1/2 actually.

Two actually.

You watched 30 minutes of commercials.

Chopperrules

@Zach:

So Greg mentioned it, we're recording a podcast (myself, Ed, and Greg) to look back on the series. If I know us, it'll be longer than I anticipate, but either way we hope you guys will give it a listen. Feel free to call in at the One Piece Podcast number for the special episode (347-497-6254) or email us at LostTheEndPodcast@gmail.com.

I don't know where we're going to put it, so for those Twitter-ers, check the updates at www.twitter.com/LostTheEnd

/shamelessplug

Hell yeah!! Please make it a nice and long one, since you probably won't ever do another Lost podcast again.

Out of curiosity, are you going to do a similar setup for this special like your normal ones?

@Greg:

Two actually.

You watched 30 minutes of commercials.

Considering one episode is usually 45 minutes, more or less, without the commercials, these two episodes are already longer than normal. And so much happened in that two hours. I mean even after MIB died, there was still another 45 minutes or something of material, which surprised me.

TappaDeRouge

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"Jack should stop debating and start ejaculating."

Refii

Kate Micucci is amazing.. Scrubs memories :wub:

Bucephalus

No mention of Sawyer in that video? Wow. I'm not gay, but it's clear that he's the most attractive guy on the island.

StrawHatRican

@Bucephalus:

No mention of Sawyer in that video? Wow. I'm not gay, but it's clear that he's the most attractive guy on the island.

Mr. Eko > all

"No homo"

Greg

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:cwy: .

skeletonbrook

your both wrong Frank is obvisouly the most atractive guy on the island im straight by the way im just saying hes a good looking guy

Mugiwara_no_Ice

@skeletonbrook:

your both wrong Frank is obvisouly the most atractive guy on the island im straight by the way im just saying hes a good looking guy

Which Frank, bearded or shaved?

And some news on the unofficial lost podcast? Where caqn I find it?

Greg

Okay, was it Nobody that bought a cam? I posted mine, let's see your vid.

mickgreen58

I literally just started marathoning this show last Sunday. I just started Season 2 today.

I am amazed that you guys could actually wait week after week and in between seasons to get answers.

As soon as I watch 1 episode, I have to watch another one to see what happens next.

StrawHatRican

@mickgreen58:

I literally just started marathoning this show last Sunday. I just started Season 2 today.

I am amazed that you guys could actually wait week after week and in between seasons to get answers.

As soon as I watch 1 episode, I have to watch another one to see what happens next.

Waiting damn near a fucking YEAR in between seasons… was rough

Imagine waiting a fucking year between the end of Season 1...

Till the Start of Season 2 X___x

Ffffuuuuuu~~~

mickgreen58

@StrawHatRican:

Waiting damn near a fucking YEAR in between seasons… was rough

Imagine waiting a fucking year between the end of Season 1...

Till the Start of Season 2 X___x

Ffffuuuuuu~~~

I'm a little worried because I have been told Season 3 blows and I may lose interest.

Greg

Season 3 is incredible. Season 4 is a little weak and Season 5 is the worst of the bunch but even at its worst LOST is head and shoulders beyond all other network programming.

Senshi Mizaka

@Greg:

Season 3 is incredible. Season 4 is a little weak and Season 5 is the worst of the bunch but even at its worst LOST is head and shoulders beyond all other network programming.

I actually thought season 4 was the weakest out of them all. I've said it time and time again, but it bears repeating: If it hadn't been condensed because of the writer's strike, it could have been a lot better. But still, it had its share of great moments, and horrible ones Cough Theotherwoman Cough I actually found that watching that season on DVD made it more entertaining than my initial view, for some reason.

Stinkers aside, Lost is still one of the best shows I've ever seen, and held my interest all the way through.

Airflow

The last chunk of Season 3 is one of the best things ever put to television.

StrawHatRican

@Airflow:

The last chunk of Season 3 is one of the best things ever put to television.

16 characters of agreement

Senshi Mizaka

I thought the middle of season 2 was pretty weak. Some time after "The Hunting Party", or "The 23rd Psalm", some of the character development was thrown out the window, and they reverted to their season 1 personalities, especially for Sawyer and Charlie. Luckily, things started to pick up for me around the time Ben was introduced, even if I couldn't stand his character back then.

Nobodyman

@Greg:

Okay, was it Nobody that bought a cam? I posted mine, let's see your vid.

Well, I posted my viewing of Lost a few pages back. Of course, I've taken the videos down from Youtube since no one was watching them and the few who did gave me negative comments :P

But if you want, I can reupload them.

Senshi Mizaka

I thought I'd start a trend, for those of you who've watched the series in its entirety: A list of your top 5 episodes from each season. If you've got the time, explain your reasons. As for me, I'm too tired at the moment.

Season 1:
1. Pilot
2. Exodus
3. Walkabout
4. Numbers
5. All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues

Season 2:
1. Live Together, Die Alone
2. The Other 48 Days
3. Man of Science, Man of Faith
4. One of Them
5. Dave

Season 3:
1. Through the Looking Glass
2. The Man Behind the Curtain
3. Tricia Tanaka Is Dead
4. The Brig
5. The Man From Tallahassee

Season 4:
1. The Shape of Things to Come
2. Cabin Fever
3. The Constant
4. Confirmed Dead
5. There's No Place Like Home

Season 5:
1. The Incident
2. La Fleur
3. Jughead
4. The Variable
5. Dead Is Dead

The verdict is still out on season 6. I'll wait until it comes on DVD to re-watch it to give my final word.

The Iceman

imo from best to worst:
Seasons 4, 5, 1, 6, 3, 2.

Nobodyman

Well, I'm not gonna do individual episodes, but my favorite seasons in order from best to worst are…

2, 1, 6, 4, 5, 3

RuNa

@Greg:

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:cwy: .

Well, my reaction to the ending to LOST was the same as the food critic at the end of Ratatouille. No joke, I literally had the same facial expressions. I had to think about it for a little bit after the show ended.

BTW, watching LOST Season 1 again. It's so weird seeing some of the things that have changed since the beginning (wasn't for a few episodes that the flashback sound existed) and all of the clues that help lead up till the ending. I guess the show is a little much for casual viewers because I've had plenty of friends tell me that they hate the ending because it doesn't answer anything or it brings up stuff that didn't exist in the beginning. A lot of these answers could be reasoned out if they payed a little more attention to the show :\

Greg

I've said it time and time again, but it bears repeating: If it hadn't been condensed because of the writer's strike, it could have been a lot better.

The Strike only chopped off one episode from that season. They weren't going to be able to bring everything around with only 45 minutes extra.

I've said it time and time again, but it bears repeating: If it hadn't been condensed because of the writer's strike, it could have been a lot better.

Welcome to my world.

etern1tyST

After watching the final episode this is my opinion of lost.
It was a good series. It had a lot of amazing moments but a lot of really bad ones as well.
Season 1 is the most amazing thing ever. It is captivating from episode 1 to episode 24.
Season 2 is an extension to season 1 because of the show's strong ratings. It is quite weak as a season mainly b/c of these reasons:
a) The 2nd and 3rd episodes which were kind of frustrating ( especially the 2nd one )
b)The writers not knowing were to go with some of the characters (mainly Charlie, which was a huge letdown)
c)Ana Lucia
d)Making Jack a Jack@$$
e)Some pointless episodes(and Fire and Water was a good episode. If only it took a different direction on Locke's character. I mean, Locke was the only one who should have believed charlie from the get-go of the hallucinations)
f)The Henry Gale issue and the food drops which were never explained. Although we can say that the food drops were part of the experiment and Henry Gale was some stranded scientist, but an explanation would be welcomed.
g)Michael and Walt situation. The characters were abandoned …

Season 3 was better than season 2, BUT the first 8 episodes of the season + Paolo/Nikki are the series's biggest mistakes. Also, I would not like to mention the Sheriff and Annie..

Season 4 was weak. No plot advancement except for a freighter. Only the sideways on the real world were cool and The Constant. The new characters were weak except for the scientist. Still only the epilogue of the season is worth it.(Lets forget the episode with the gas please .... )

Season 5 was for me quite weird. Going front and back in time isn't my cup of tea since the writers said more than once that there is no time-travel involved. It defeats the whole purpose of them crashing on the island ... + John Locke was never brought back from the dead like I hoped. Realizing that in the Finale of S6 was frustrating.

Finally season 6, was quite solid. Episode 1 was amazing and the rest of the season binds with the mythology they tried to deliver. I would have liked that some things were explained like the pregnant women dying which was crucial since S1 but I hope the encyclopedia and the extra 20 mins on the dvd will give us sth.