America should love Serbia, we invented the ancestor of hamburgers. Make way for more food fanservice between Serbia x America.
You're going to have to outdo Kosovo building a golden statue of Bill Clinton to woo us.
Axis Powers Hetalia
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THOSE, I believe, would be the countries' bosses. Although I'm not too sure about Japan's.
Right, Japan is busy taking orders from above and experimenting on what happens when you put a Korean in a pressure cooker.
In regards to Ukraine, Russia says 'also, she's poor so those are real' in regards to the enormous tits. In the dub, anyway. The dub is quite a bit more politically incorrect than the original concept. And is better for it.
You don't understand how politically incorrect I was being by joking about the Ukraine starving do you. Or at least I hope you aren't comparing the Holodomor to a breast implant joke.
Just saying that the manga shouldn't be taken seriously. And it really shouldn't.
It's a huge waste of potential comedy is the issue. Oh and also so drenched in fanservice and KAWAIII shit that it ruins the fun part of it.
@CaptainUsopp:
if you think this is dumb, no need to be here and ruin it for the people who do.
Making fun of Hetalia for not being what it should be is a lot of fun, we're bringing smiles to this thread.
and there was a korean character. it was in the manga, till korea got it's panties in a knot over being offended by the stereo type.
Yeah gee, gawd, I wonder why Korea would get mad about a Japanese comic set during WW2 mocking them in any context while showing a demure Japan.
Even my buddy from Singapore hates Hetalia for it's teeheehee approach to a war where Japan (and Germany) were demonic entities, I can only imagine how Koreans would feel about it.
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Why, even in the context of an obnoxious bishonen show, would you ever depict Russia as anything other then a massive hairy bearded man.
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At least they got the "schizo and bugfuck insane in general" part right.
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Also no credible Russia would ever smile.
Also the US should be incredibly obnoxious, but incredibly infectiously fun. Like Franky.Also…..hey wait a minute am I having to correct the bland practically interchangable personalities of every character? My god....
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Latvia. He tries so hard :cwy:
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I heard of this, but never bothered looking into it. It seems like another High School Club fad…
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Wtf is up with Italy is that what Japan thinks its people are like? Whiny and submissive? Germany is pretty much expected, Russia is kind of psycho and the USA a bit confusing.
This series is weird.
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Also America should physically resemble Teddy Roosevelt and wear a cowboy hat.
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@Cyan:
Also America should physically resemble Teddy Roosevelt and wear a cowboy hat.
This.
But I guess drawing Teddy Roosevelt as bishie would be kind of a tough call.
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if you think this is dumb, no need to be here and ruin it for the people who do. and there was a korean character. it was in the manga, till korea got it's panties in a knot over being offended by the stereo type.
I've liked the little bits I've seen. the characters are cute. the cosplay fanism is another story. i stay the hell away from all that.
Thanks, captain usopp.
The fans are both good and bad; the bad ones are typical fangirls, but the good ones are great to be around; I've even seen history teachers on the LJ community that use Hetalia as a teaching tool for kids who struggle in history.There are plenty of fans of the series, including myself, who are history enthusiasts and truly enjoy the series for all that it offers.
It seems to me that most people commenting here are cooking the series based on their own feelings and perceptions of stereotypes, and even bits of what they've seen/heard of the series instead of the series as a whole…
Why, even in the context of an obnoxious bishonen show, would you ever depict Russia as anything other then a massive hairy bearded man.
…without bothering to read up on the back round of the series or the characters. Might I also point out that it is an aim of the series to stereotype without offending anyone.
Hetalia does not only deal with stereotypes. Each character, while personifying a country, also reflects the citizens and ideals of that country, while being stereotyped to an extent (obviously the stereotypes will differ according to the stereotypes of the creator). While what the series covers can be limited, I've never know it to be completely inaccurate when covering a historical event.
As and example, lets look at America (if anyone wants to know about other characters, I'd be happy to educate you).
The United States is represented by:
Alfred F. Jones.
Also the US should be incredibly obnoxious, but incredibly infectiously fun.
While this is essentially true of the character, there is more to him than that. He's friendly, and while he has good intentions, he messes things up by accident sometimes. He considers himself nothing less than the ultimate leader of the world and when he makes fun of you, he tends to smile while he does so. England is like his father, or an older brother, whom he is friends with and can sometime be sentimental over:
http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/531.html
His soft-spoken, often forgotten brother is Canada, who he has always had a good relationship with. He doesn't seem to know it, but he overshadows his brother a lot. Cuba really hates him.
While he is nosy, he also wants to help people, and has expressed this trait from a young age; when England an France were attempting to win his favor, France offered him delicious food and England, who had nothing to offer than could compare, wallowed. Instead of taking the food, young America approached England and ask him, "Are you all right?" He was more concerned about England's happiness than France's gifts.Does this seem at all and accurate portrayal of the United States to you? If so, I think it would be nice to discuss what the series is about and could be, not what the series should be.
Kind of like what we do with One Piece.(P.S. I noticed some people have been asking, "Where is/ why isn't there _______?" Himaruya personifies nations as he needs them in his strips, so naturally not every single nation has been personified yet.)
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Thanks, captain usopp.
The fans are both good and bad; the bad ones are typical fangirls, but the good ones are great to be around; I've even seen history teachers on the LJ community that use Hetalia as a teaching tool for kids who struggle in history.
"Hey kids, here's a bunch of places that didn't exist as sovereign nations in the 40's including incorrect flags, and for no reason at all, Prussia. Oh and the stereotypes aren't even accurate. And the only other things you might learn is uh….Austria was annexed by Germany. But you won't learn it was a self styled fascist state with a goofy midget dictator who was best buds with Italy and when Hitler had him killed it almost brought Italy and Germany into being worst enemies. Instead, Austria moves in with Germany's house and they bicker about socks! LOL."
There is nothing to learn from this series. It can't even characterize the nation relationships right. The Baltic nations despise Russia. Italy was Germany's senior in fascism and war moves, not a follower (though blazingly incompetent). And Japan was a voracious nationalist instituting manifest destiny on Asia, who was already busy happily marching to war long before Nazi's had anything to say to it. Korea was annexed before WWI.
I would never show this to any class of mine.
It seems to me that most people commenting here are cooking the series based on their own feelings and perceptions of stereotypes, and even bits of what they've seen/heard of the series instead of the series as a whole…
I've read practically all the comics.
Oh and there is such a thing as stereotypes being inaccurate, they aren't perceptions entirely. The aforementioned Baltic thing for one.…without bothering to read up on the back round of the series or the characters. Might I also point out that it is an aim of the series to stereotype without offending anyone.
Yeah sure, that's why Korea was literally a wannabe Japan who got mad at it before they had to pull the character because the Koreans got pissed lol.
And I guarentee you any Estonians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians and even Italians would be offended by their characterizations.If you're going to offend, at least get it right, because it's extra annoying to be depicted with a random baseless stereotype.
Hetalia does not only deal with stereotypes. Each character, while personifying a country, also reflects the citizens and ideals of that country,
lol, no, they don't.
while being stereotyped to an extent (obviously the stereotypes will differ according to the stereotypes of the creator). While what the series covers can be limited, I've never know it to be completely inaccurate when covering a historical event.
Then you don't know a great deal about history.
As and example, lets look at America (if anyone wants to know about other characters, I'd be happy to educate you).
Um, I'm the international educator here.
The United States is represented by:
Alfred F Jones
This is reaaaaallly not helping your case.
While this is essentially true of the character, there is more to him than that.
He's forgettably smily and fey like every other character. Or the creators and you both don't know what the word obnoxious means.
He's friendly, and while he has good intentions, he messes things up by accident sometimes. He considers himself nothing less than the ultimate leader of the world and when he makes fun of you, he tends to smile while he does so. England is like his father, or an older brother, whom he is friends with and can sometime be sentimental over:
Why is "England" a single entity?
His soft-spoken, often forgotten brother is Canada, who he has always had a good relationship with. He doesn't seem to know it, but he overshadows his brother a lot. Cuba really hates him.
No actually if this is WW2 Cuba is busy sucking America's dick for money he promptly embezzles.
Teehee, I'm Hetalia and I don't really know what damn time I take place during!
While he is nosy, he also wants to help people, and has expressed this trait from a young age;
Actually the US has never expressed this before until WWI, having previously been near steadfastly isolationist, or at best interested soley in keeping order in the Americas ala Teddy.
He only begins to care after WW2 inadvertently makes him one of two superpowers.when England an France were attempting to win his favor, France offered him delicious food and England, who had nothing to offer than could compare, wallowed. Instead of taking the food, young America approached England and ask him, "Are you all right?" He was more concerned about England's happiness than France's gifts.
When has France ever tried to woo the US?
Oh and thanks to Kissinger we would have been stuffing our face and telling the UK (England??) to suck it.Does this seem at all and accurate portrayal of the United States to you?
Barely, and it's played so blandly.
Where's the arrogance? The huge chin? The sly manly facial expressions?
Why does he behave like everyone else except with different lines?If so, I think it would be nice to discuss what the series is about and could be, not what the series should be.
Could be and should be are two names for the same thing.
(P.S. I noticed some people have been asking, "Where is/ why isn't there _______?" Himaruya personifies nations as he needs them in his strips, so naturally not every single nation has been personified yet.)
Yes naturally main players in WW2 just…..haven't been gotten to yet! It was more important to show obsolete German kingdoms from the 1800's and not independent Soviet republics.
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Wow! Himaruya! Great designs for Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Ghana!
http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/a/ad/BotswanaZimbabweGhana.jpg….not!
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@JERK:
And I guarentee you any Estonians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians and even Italians would be offended by their characterizations.
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yes, I am quite offended. Poland sticks up for Lithania? Where the hell did that come from? They took Vilnius! And Lithuania is somehow friends with Poland? Yeah, Lithuanians don't exactly like Poles. This is the offensive one.And since when has Lithuania been infatuated with Belarus? And since when has Belarus hated Lithuania? I can't imagine any reason why Belarusians would hate Lithuanians. This is the confusing one.
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A lot of it just seems like the author throws darts at a board to decide nation relationships.
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Zephos, have you seen this?
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"Karakalpak-tan" lol
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Comics like these make me glad Holland was a non-entity during WWII (it's not in, right?)
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Comics like these make me glad Holland was a non-entity during WWII (it's not in, right?)
Well, there's the Netherlands.
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Late USSR-dono has left me a nuclear power plant, that meanie. However, European Union-san doesn't let me take it to his party. Oh well, why would I ever need cheap electricity for myself and my neighbours. Wait up, European Union-san, teehee~
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This feeling can't be summed up by "offended". It's violated.@JERK:
And I guarentee you any Estonians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians and even Italians would be offended by their characterizations.
I can't really imagine how the mangaka has done his research on Baltic region. Or at all.
@JERK:
Also no credible Russia would ever smile.
Hey wha
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@THE:
This is a crime:
http://vnsharing.net/forum/showthread.php?t=230881Never underestimate the power of fangirls I guess..(still wtf man? :wassat:)
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I sometimes think some j-artists would die if they drew an ugly person.
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Hmmm Hetalia. I watch a couple of episodes every few months or so. And only because shipping England/America cracks me up. With them crying in the rain all over each other lmao:
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I can barely even connect the characters with the countries they represent, in my mind, so whatever to all the weirdness. They're all just dudes with stupid names to me.
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Hetalia is like that scene from The Simpsons when they go to an American themed restaurant in Japan and the waiter comes over and greets them with "Howdy gangstaz!".
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What's with England's goofy look all the time? At least get your stereotypes right Japan. And yes judging by looks it's definitely hard to connect the countries. The only ones which were kind of obvious were Germany and probably Japan because of the uniforms but that's about it.
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Yeah the designs are unspeakably awful. A sea of generic pretty boys with a few pretty girls. Only Turkey's design was any good, and even that was only meh.
And for fucks sake. What the fuck were those African nation designs?? Greece and Turkey were blacker!!
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@JERK:
Yeah the designs are unspeakably awful. A sea of generic pretty boys with a few pretty girls.
LOL. I always thought the series was just manservice fluff targeted mostly towards younger women (and some men). So that works.
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@JERK:
Yeah the designs are unspeakably awful. A sea of generic pretty boys with a few pretty girls. Only Turkey's design was any good, and even that was only meh.
And for fucks sake. What the fuck were those African nation designs?? Greece and Turkey were blacker!!
9iY4RLNrGBM .
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As an American myself, I think even Hetalia could stereotype America a lot better than "OH HAHAHAH HE EATS SO MUCH AND THINKS HE'S A HERO LULZ"
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America would never smile without also having it's brows furrowed.
Literally every nation in it is gay, when in reality only Old England is that effeminate.
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Perhaps not having Vietnam in it is a good thing. I don't want to see Vietnam-chan get raped by China, France and America.
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Which was more humiliating.
Being colonized by France.
Or France just casually throwing you in with Cambodia and the part of Thailand they stole (Laos) and just basically calling it "French bunch of land under china or whatever hohohoho". -
As an American myself, I think even Hetalia could stereotype America a lot better than "OH HAHAHAH HE EATS SO MUCH AND THINKS HE'S A HERO LULZ"
It makes perfect sense to me.
What I really don't understand is how Hetalia portrays Italy. Italians are well known for being self-centered, proud and assertive, and for the most part don't like to be bossed around (unless its by their mother).
Yet Italy behaves nothing like that. Instead he's just some uke character for yaoi fantasies and raves about pasta.
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Germany would beat Italy in a war.
Italy would beat Germany in a street fight.This is not reflected!
Hetalia's fruity ass Italy (yes, BOTH of them are fruity) is among the worst parts of it.
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It makes perfect sense to me.
I'm saying it's incredibly easy to do better. Especially as Zephos pointed out.
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Mussolini was obscenely macho (kind of like Old Italian culture) but in all the worst ways, he was exactly what would happened if Biff from Back to the Future became a dictator.
So this. Is inadequate to say in the least.
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@JERK:
Mussolini was obscenely macho (kind of like Old Italian culture) but in all the worst ways, he was exactly what would happened if Biff from Back to the Future became a dictator.
So this. Is inadequate to say in the least.
I guess they want to make fun of Italy for being kind of the small fry in the axis powers. That's the only reason I could think of for justifying this portrayal. Still the suave Italian lifestyle would have gone better with it not just some idiot goofball who's Germany's submissive fanboy.
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I guess they want to make fun of Italy for being kind of the small fry in the axis powers. That's the only reason I could think of for justifying this portrayal. Still the suave Italian lifestyle would have gone better with it not just some idiot goofball who's Germany's submissive fanboy.
Yeah, that and they completely omit Austria, despite that Austria is far more of Germany's submissive fanboy than Italy is.
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Mussolini did it for the lulz. That's the only explanation.
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Austria is in Hetalia.
He's gay and boring like everyone else.
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Yeah but he only appears like a couple of times, but isn't see as part of the Axis along with Japan, Italy and Germany.
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I think I like Dave Berry's summary of the Italian effort in WWII the best: "meanwhile, Italy sent in their much-feared troops, which penetrated a full 200 feet into southern France before their truck broke down."
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Hey Chrissie I think Hetalia met you halfway, Cyprus isn't in it, but Northern Cyprus is!
Also due to recent circumstances I imagine this guy as a total troll:
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Has Holland kicked a football at Germany yet.
Or are we just generic wannabe-nazis who want to be part of the Third Reich so badly.
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I asume my country is not present.
Good I say.
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Has Holland kicked a football at Germany yet.
Or are we just generic wannabe-nazis who want to be part of the Third Reich so badly.
You're actually a complete dick who's friends with Japan for some reason.
@No:I asume my country is not present.
Good I say.
You're Hungarian, right?
 
