I personally love the dubbed opening and ending songs by Funi. I think they are awesome, though not as good as the original Japanese versions of the songs. What do you all think of them?
Dubbed songs
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We are: I loved the dvd version. The person who sang it did a GREAT job!
Believe: I never liked this opening in the first place and the dubbed version did not make me like any further
Toward's the light: This is one of the times a dubbed opening is better than a original!
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I agree with you on all of those except Believe which is one of my favorite openings. Towards the Light actually was better in the dub, which usually doesn't happen.
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I appreciate the fact they exist. Although the originals are usually better, it's nice to have an alternate version that is easier to sing along to.
I've started to really like the anime openings for Naruto and am now lamenting the lack of dubbed versions.
On a side note, Bon Voyage is probably Funi's best work in terms of OP dub songs. It seems all the other songs have at least a few hiccups or odd syllables (funny enough, the words "I think about the time…" from Towards the Light always seemed incredibly rushed to me. Threw me off since those were the first words ever uttered out of a Funi OP dubbed song). However, Bon Voyage seems really natural.
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Bon Voyage does come out nicely in the dub. But I think Towards the Light is my favorite dub so far.
Also I would like a dub of some Naruto songs like Fighting Dreamers and the second one. (I forgot the name of it.)
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I liked 'Bon Voyage' and 'A to Z' a lot, but I liked the original versions better.
I didn't really like Funi's version of 'Believe.'
I actually liked 'Towards the Light' better than 'Hikari E.'
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A to Z is my favorite ending in Japanese and English.
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Bon Voyage, Memories, and A-Z, We Are, and Towards the light were awesome.
But one thing, is that when the women singers take a go, like Believe, Run Run Run, or that latest ending song sometimes I just dont feel they are into the song, or allot of the chorus lines just sound yucky. But then everything else sounds perfect in my mind. I do enjoy these songs though. But not like the ones I mentioned above.
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We Are!- It's great, I'd say better than the original
Believe- Also great, just slightly below the original
Toward the Light- Better than the original. By miles.
Bon Voyage- Probably my least favorite, but it's still good
Memories- Better than the original, although not saying much :
Run! Run! Run!- It grew on me. I like it a lot
You've Got Me- Haven't listened to it too much to judge
Faith? (the one with Robin)- Liked it a lot
The one with the bike- Also liked it
A to Z- Best one yet.
The Sun and the Moon(?)- Also great
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We Are! - I liked the original better.
Believe - I thought it was a little below the original.
Toward the Light - Way better than the original.
Bon Voyage - A little better than the original.Memories - A little better than the original.
Run! Run! Run! - I liked the original better, but I liked the dub as well.
You've Got Me - Same I haven't listened to it enough.
Free Will - I think it was about equal.
Faith - It was alright.
A to Z - Awesome.
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I've enjoyed all the dub songs but Memories (I don't know why) is still my favorite ending in both languages. It just gives me that warm nostalgic feeling whenever I see it and that's the one ending I never skip. XD As for openings…I guess the english We Are! is still my favorite amongst the ones already out. I patiently wait for Brand New World dubbed! ^__^
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Yeah I can't wait for the dub of Brand New World!
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Just think we were one episode away from a dubbed Kokoro no Chizu.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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@LongFist:
Just think we were one episode away from a dubbed Kokoro no Chizu.
More like twelve episodes.
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@Dream:
Yeah I can't wait for the dub of Brand New World!
I'll bet you can. You're going to have a real problem if you can't.
I really don't care whether or not Funi dubs the songs so long as they don't do a bad job of it.
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i can't stand the 3rd ending songs dubbing. fucking horrid job by funi there.
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@Mikey:
More like twelve episodes.
Really? I thought it started the moment they fell down to G8, maybe it was after.
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Nope, G8 uses Bon Voyage. Kokoro no Chizu starts with the Davy Back Fight.
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I'm glad they're doing them, but the quality is really starting to suffer. Probably due to the insanely fast pace they're pumping their sets out at.
The major problem with a lot of the Funimation openings is the quality of the singers and the production aren't up to par coupled with some wacky translations that either make no sense, don't fit the tempo of the piece or in some cases do neither.
Run! Run! Run! was one of my favorite tunes from the One Piece because of the energy the piece had, it embodied the joy and excitement that the animation for that closing shows and typifies the most enjoyable parts of the series. The singer did a great job of bringing out that enthusiasm in her performance, but the lyrical content was gibberish, and worst of all, the chosen words didn't nearly sync up with the staccato of the original Japanese vocals and threw everything terribly off beat.
With Believe, you had the opposite problem. Funimation's Achilles' heel, just bringing in some director who already works at the place to lay down a voice track for a smaller paycheck than going out an hiring professionals. It's why any property they take on of any length regardless of location or theme has several Texan accents. Even with a lyrical translation that was beyond amazing in my opinion, you replaced a professional group of very tightly harmonizing singers on a song which was produced as a legitimate single in its market of origin with a single listless voice.
I really don't mean to sound ungrateful and I know it's tremendously unreasonable for Funimation to court actual name/career musicians the way Toei can in Japan. But I guess we were spoiled a bit with the openings they had more time to prep for us.
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Take into account that FUNimation's vocalists don't have as much time to perfect their recordings as the Japanese singers do, likely being weeks if not months due to singing being the main focus of their career.
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One thing I will say about 4 kids, is that when it came to the opening music of their shows, even though it was all their own creation, they always did it well. Especialy pokemon.
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Pokemon's dub openings were awesome. But dont put ALL of 4kids anime in that category just yet.
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yeah i've gotta say, 4kids does have a thing for music, not bgm though. But yeah basically Every Pokemon theme song owns, and Sonic X's is a masterpiece. TMNT gets stuck in my head, and Yugioh and Yugioh GX were great too. The One Piece, though not their best, and no where near comparable to the original stuff, is definately catchy and constantly gets stuck in my head.
Its funny cause everytime one of my friends goes "Yo", i instantly respond with "Ya yo, yah yoooo!" and then break out the rap, and theyre always like, "um lol wut?" and im just "Grr, nevermind…"
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I'd have to say that their dub of Bon Voyage is superior to the original in my opinion… In fact, I don't even really like the original all that much, but Memories is far superior in Japanese, because of a few musical nuances and the singer seems a bit more appropriate for the song. English one is still pretty good though.
I think their dub of Toward The Light/Hikari E is every bit as good as the original version. Vic Mignogna does a really good job there as well as with We Are.
I don't like Run! Run! Run! in either language.
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I'd have to say that their dub of Bon Voyage is superior to the original in my opinion… In fact, I don't even really like the original all that much, but Memories is far superior in Japanese, because of a few musical nuances and the singer seems a bit more appropriate for the song. English one is still pretty good though.
I think their dub of Toward The Light/Hikari E is every bit as good as the original version. Vic Mignogna does a really good job there as well as with We Are.
I don't like Run! Run! Run! in either language.
Bon Voyage certainly is good and yeah the Towards the Light is pretty good, But I think that their best Dub so far is Vic Mignogna singing A to Z, he REALLY Nailed that.
I mean i listened to A to Z ENG & JP back to back and it really seemed so sync'd and that the only difference really was the words, great dubbing on their part. All the tones and that were raised in the right places and it was just really well done. I also really like Memories
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Bon Voyage certainly is good and yeah the Towards the Light is pretty good, But I think that their best Dub so far is Vic Mignogna singing A to Z, he REALLY Nailed that.
I mean i listened to A to Z ENG & JP back to back and it really seemed so sync'd and that the only difference really was the words, great dubbing on their part. All the tones and that were raised in the right places and it was just really well done. I also really like Memories
Never heard him sing it. Do you have a link or anything of it?
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Yep, here it is :
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Yeah that male singer they have is amazing. In the commentaries they mentioned him always belting everything with a huge smile on his face. To be perfectly honest, I think that's the world of difference from singers who don't actually love to do it.
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I really don't like them. FUNimation always seems to do something to ruin a good song. Hell, look at what they did to BECK… Oh well! I'm not buying their stuff anyway!
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@Corson:
I really don't like them. FUNimation always seems to do something to ruin a good song. Hell, look at what they did to BECK… Oh well! I'm not buying their stuff anyway!
The opening songs for OP are really well done. Believe was kind of iffy but the others are really good. I haven't seen Beck so I don't have an opinion on that. And why is that a good reason for not buying Funi's DVDs? They have both the English and Japanese versions on them.
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@Kairouseki:
The opening songs for OP are really well done. Believe was kind of iffy but the others are really good. I haven't seen Beck so I don't have an opinion on that.
I don't think they're well done. They sound very poor and halfhearted to me. Very hollow. They have that 'this is a cartoon theme song' feeling as opposed to a 'this is a song' feeling. They sound too cheesy to me. There's no feeling. No love for the song. Please understand that I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. I'm just giving my honest opinion. I'm not a fan.
I'll give them this; They're better than the 4Kids theme.
@Kairouseki:
And why is that a good reason for not buying Funi's DVDs? They have both the English and Japanese versions on them.
Not that it's really any of your business how I spend my money, but I don't want that company to have a single penny of mine. After the treatment they have given so many things I've loved, there's no way in Hell I'll buy anything of theirs; Japanese audio or not.
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Nothing to see here, folks, just another disgruntled and typical anime fan belching words.
Move on along, everybody.
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Nothing to see here, folks, just another disgruntled and typical anime fan belching words.
Move on along, everybody.
No need to be a condescending jerk.
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Nothing to see here, folks, just another disgruntled and typical anime fan belching words.
Move on along, everybody.
He's not "just another disgruntled and typical anime fan belching words" just because he has an opinion different than yours.
I personally think that both the Japanese and English songs are good in their own way.
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If you love something enough, you'd buy it regardless of what has happened to it ^_^ Thats my principle for everything in life, except the word buy is changed to fit the situation of course.
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He's not "just another disgruntled and typical anime fan belching words" just because he has an opinion different than yours.
I personally think that both the Japanese and English songs are good in their own way.
The thing is that he obviously likes the shows that Funi has. He doesn't really like the dub or the dubbed songs, though. But it's not like the DVDs only have the dub on them. There is no (good) reason whatsoever for him not getting the DVDs.
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@Kairouseki:
The thing is that he obviously likes the shows that Funi has. He doesn't really like the dub or the dubbed songs, though. But it's not like the DVDs only have the dub on them. There is no (good) reason whatsoever for him not getting the DVDs.
Again; I refuse to support a company I don't believe in. When you buy a FUNimation DVD (or any dubbed DVD, really), the biggest chuck of your money goes to the dub itself. They have to pay their actors somehow, and I don't plan on helping. I don't like FUNimation. I don't like their actors. I don't like their localizations (though they have gotten better since the early DB days). That's all there is to it. Whether they have Japanese audio or not; I DO NOT SUPPORT FUNIMATION. If that's not a good enough reason for you (though, again, it's no concern of yours how I spend my money), then that's just too bad.
I'm trying so hard not to be a complete ass to you, but you're making it very difficult… I don't care if people like the dub, I don't care if people like the dub songs, and I don't care ff people buy it. It's their right to do whatever they choose with their money. And if the English version makes them happy, then that's great! I'm sure you wouldn't buy something you didn't like/want, and I certainly wouldn't get on your case for it, so what's the deal? Why can't you afford me the same courtesy?
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Whatever floats your boat I guess :ermm: .
Edit: I'm just wondering here but you do watch fansubs, right? Do you at least buy the manga or something?
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People like him - reason why the anime industry as a whole is apparently so bad.
Just let him keep stroking his neckbeard.EDIT: An edit so I'm not totally off topic. Anyone have like…all the current songs(youtube links preferably) collected?
-Zera
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@Corson:
No need to be a condescending jerk.
….........right.
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I love that when someone has a different opinion on this board they are labeled as a troll or an myopic fanboy. I could almost see their logic if this was a thread made to praise the dubbed songs, but it was a thread made to discuss the dubbed songs. I don't see the people that love the songs having to jump through hoops to explain their reasoning.
I personally feel much the same way that Corson D Burly does. I think that the English dub songs all sound halfhearted at best. That's probably because these were actually songs to begin with. Funimation replaced those actual singers by non professionals and to me it shows. I personally find it embarrassing to listen to.
Now remember people my opinion is just as valid as your own, so take a step back and examine yourselves before you hurl your torches at me. I've done the same for many of you. All I ask is that you pay me the same respect.
母しゃべる「ドッグチーズ」
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I personally feel much the same way that Corson D Burly does. I think that the English dub songs all sound halfhearted at best. That's probably because these were actually songs to begin with. Funimation replaced those actual singers by non professionals and to me it shows. I personally find it embarrassing to listen to.
While I am not questioning your opinion, I have to question your knowledge on the subject. For starters, alot of FUNimation employees have some kind of degree in music, as well as drama and so forth. Also, some of the singers who sing these dubbed songs are professionals, such as Vic Mignogna (who, while overused, is a fantastic singer) and Kristine Sa. I would say Caitlin Glass is one too (because she has an amazing voice) but I am unsure. If you want to hear a non-professional, listen to the Joustin Houstin version of the Ouran ending and then the used Vic Mignogna version and then tell me he's 'embarrassing to listen too'.
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You'll find I'm more than knowledgeable on the subject.
I'll use the video that Kairoseki was kind enough to put up:
Vic Mignogna in "We are" is over singing every moment of this. There was a great episode of the show "'Til Death" that showcased over singing brilliantly. Look it up if you don't know what over singing is. Mignogna's head and shoulders above the next two, because he at least can sing on KEY sometimes. Mignogna's performance here is definitely miles better than what he did with "BECK". That was just down right unforgivable.
Meredith McCoy is flat for the majority of "Believe". It is absolutely jarring. I won't lie, it's hard for me to listen to it all the way through. When she goes for the high note in the lyric "Believe in Wonderland" she completely bones it. What I don't understand is why she didn't pick to sing the note lower, if she knew she could hit it. It reeks of amateurism.
The worst by far is Brina Palencia on "Bon Voyage". Palencia's voice sounds like it's a half step flat or MORE the whole song! She isn't anywhere near the key of her backing track! I really don't understand how supposed professional musicians could let that piece go out the door. It's not like being off key is hard to notice, especially for a professional musician! No singer would be happy with that.
It doesn't matter how pleasing your voice sounds if you can't sing on key you have nothing. Music notes being flat or sharp can be extremely painful to hear if you have well developed relative pitch. Ever time someone veers off key It's like a knife stabbing my chest. It makes me want to scream.
Also having a degree in music doesn't mean you are good at it. I know plenty of people who know all the music theory in the world and can't write a note of original music. I also know people who know nothing of music theory, but can write the most beautiful and complex music.
Granted I'm a little more harsh on music than most being a musician myself. I'm very sorry if this came off as snooty because that is certainly not my intent. I just wanted to let everyone know my exact reasons for not liking these songs. Music is just one of those subjects that I care for intensely. It's my life.
Why aren't the people that really like the songs dragged over the hot coals? It seems a little on the unfair side to me.
母しゃべる「ドッグチーズ」
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It's not that he dislikes the dub songs that bothers me. It's that he refuses to buy the DVDs even if they have the Japanese just because they also include the dub. I could care less if he dislikes the songs or not.
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@Corson:
Again; I refuse to support a company I don't believe in. When you buy a FUNimation DVD (or any dubbed DVD, really), the biggest chuck of your money goes to the dub itself. They have to pay their actors somehow, and I don't plan on helping. I don't like FUNimation. I don't like their actors. I don't like their localizations (though they have gotten better since the early DB days). That's all there is to it. Whether they have Japanese audio or not; I DO NOT SUPPORT FUNIMATION. If that's not a good enough reason for you (though, again, it's no concern of yours how I spend my money), then that's just too bad.
Well then, I guess you could always support the Japanese R2 DVD release… They're expensive, but you'd atleast be supporting someone.
EDIT: Also, I realize it's none of my business (and I apologize for going off subject), but for what reasons do you not want to support FUNimation's releases? The only real release that they have screwed up was the Dragon Ball releases (and with the upcoming release of the DragonBox material, this should correct most, if not all, problems surrounding DBZ's release). Most other releases have been generally solid, with some releases have some mild video problems. They offer you the ability to change to the Japanese language track with accurate subtitles and you are almost never forced to watch the dub if you do not wish to watch it.
Perhaps yes, most of the money is going to cover the costs of the production of the dub, as well as the marketting for the release. However, at the same time you need to realize that the creators are getting some profits from the release over here. Otherwise they wouldn't license it without realizing they'd get something in return…
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The English production for the themes is understandably rushed. They've got a limited time to produce the songs which doesn't allow the English vocalist to actually become familiar with the song, as opposed to the original Japanese vocalist whose entire day job is singing. You're crazy to expect it to be as good or better than the original.
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I still melt for Vic's voice. :wub:
Though with Brina's voice…I'd have to say her best work would be the end theme for Shin-chan. Heard that and the original, and her version is waaaay better.
-Zera
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I don't know about anyone else, but I never see the "heart" in openings with singing in general(original or dubbed). It's mostly just idols and bands trying to get something on their resume. They are just songs with animation behind it.
