The question remains as to how Iva "saved" them. The answer may be that he was only able to save a few of them and those who were saved were forced to relocate.
Ivan said he saved countries. He also saved people but that wasn't even related to "the poor or the defeated countries"-sentence of him. It doesn't fit.
And the really big surprise would be that the south blue island shabaody and the kuraigana island can be all connected with one line :)
Ivan said he saved countries. He also saved people but that wasn't even related to "the poor or the defeated countries"-sentence of him. It doesn't fit.
And the really big surprise would be that the south blue island shabaody and the kuraigana island can be all connected with one line :)
Well, there's definitely a gray area in the middle that I haven't worked out. The last gray area I couldn't figure out ended up being solved by Blackbeard showing up at Impel Down, so I don't get discouraged by that stuff.
I don't understand why it would be so surprising if Zoro was between Chopper and Rayleigh. Sure, in reality the chances would be very slim, but that shouldn't mean anything in a fictional story. If that's what Oda wants to do, there's absolutely no reason why it can't be done.
I don't understand why it would be so surprising if Zoro was between Chopper and Rayleigh. Sure, in reality the chances would be very slim, but that shouldn't mean anything in a fictional story. If that's what Oda wants to do, there's absolutely no reason why it can't be done.
Well some things are more probable than others and if oda goes one way he will make it as plausible as possible. But i'd rather see zoro trying to get back at shabaody alone than chopper having the luck to fly over his head. But hey everything can happen :)
Any chance that the island where Zoro landed could be one of the location of the treasure tree Adam?
It seems your sarcasm detector is on the fritz…As if Sanji, of all characters, would actually enjoy frolicking with transvestites...I'm not retarded. It's obvious that he hates it.
Sarcasm detectors rarely work properly on the Internet. Between this fact and that many others actually do think he's enjoying it, you really should have been more clear.
Rene: How the fuck would that be of any signifigance? Besides, I seriously doubt such a valuable location is just going to be abandoned like that.
Sarcasm detectors rarely work properly on the Internet. Between this fact and that many others actually do think he's enjoying it, you really should have been more clear.
Rene: How the fuck would that be of any signifigance? Besides, I seriously doubt such a valuable location is just going to be abandoned like that.
Significance? Idk just threw it in there, random sidetracking…XD, anyways, Its a former kingdom, it appears that a war took place in it and it takes time for people to settle in, I just remembered what Franky said in water 7.
"Constant" means never-ending. I seriously doubt Zoro and Perona would be in such a desolate place if it was caught up in war. Do you think the war would continue even after the soldiers are dead?
"Constant" means never-ending. I seriously doubt Zoro and Perona would be in such a desolate place if it was caught up in war. Do you think the war would continue even after the soldiers are dead?
O.O Are you referring to the never ending war? True that war may be constant but it may not apply to those individuals who are engaged in it. War may be constant by the definition of reoccurring. The war Im thinking is the "war starts then ends and start again type"… not the "war has not stop yet....war is still going on type". Well the place is a ruin, maybe a war has ended, and people have yet to return to resettle again... 
Nah... we might just go on a loop again... whatever... nvm my post... XD
The question remains as to how Iva "saved" them. The answer may be that he was only able to save a few of them and those who were saved were forced to relocate.
I think the answer to your 'gray area' is that it wasn't necessarily Iva who did anything. He is a high ranked revolutionary and so his actions embody the spirit of the revolutionaries. He saved islands from war and poverty, because that was the goal of the revolutionaries. If the revolutionary theory is true, then those islands would be places that they will help.
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I'll admit, I now see that your understanding is equally as plausable as mine. Your are refering to the likes of the 100-Year War, which consisted of several wars over the course of 130 or so years. Although given the "All of Kuma's locations are connected to the Revolutionaries" theory that is spreading through Arlong Park, I would figure that -as someone already stated- Perona's new home was once ruled by those who opposed the World Government and their residence have been rescued alongside Robin. The thing is, even in that situation, the Government would take advantage of rare and valuable things like an Adam Tree- hence the illogicality of the theory.
I think the government has already taken advantage of the tree…If I remember correctly Franky bought the parts from the black market... Im assuming its illegal to sell and purchase it without government clearance.
With the Revolutionary theory, some of them are stretches, but I can see pretty much every island but Chopper's and Usopp's being tied in.
Zoro - As mentioned, he's in a destroyed country, the likes of which Iva, a Revolutionary Officer, mentions saving. Also, I like the thought mentioned earlier about the TW prisoners, that's another way this could relate. Who knows, if the "Kuma is a Revolutionary" theory turns out to be true, maybe he already enlisted Perona (after sending her there) or something.
Nami - As mentioned, the wind knot could relate to the wind Dragon produced at Loguetown. I'd actually like to think that he's not a weather/wind logia/df-user. It'd also mean that the lightning bolt that hit Buggy/saved Luffy was just fated coincidence, not daddy using his uber powers.
Usopp - Unless Hercules is a Revolutionary, I have no idea. And there's no evidence about Hercules to suggest him being a Revolutionary…
Sanji - Kingdom formerly led by Iva, fairly obvious to connect.
Chopper - No clue...
Robin - Saved by Revolutionary army
Franky - Genius could mean Vegapunk, Kuma was made into a cyborg by Vegapunk, I'd like to think the Revolutionaries have some almost equivalent (though say maybe only 450 yrs ahead of the world compared to Punk's 500) scientist, so it may also refer to this. No evidence actually besides Punk/Kuma/Revolutionary speculation, but I can see lots of ways Oda could tie this in if he is going with the "Revolutionaries rescue SHs and they join the war together" idea.
Brook - Same as with Zoro, only with the poor countries Iva mentioned. Another out there theory I have is that maybe the other longarm tribesman are like Apoo and want to poke at the WG and run so they have Revolutionary ties either openly or under the table.
I think the government has already taken advantage of the tree…If I remember correctly Franky bought the parts from the black market... Im assuming its illegal to sell and purchase it without government clearance.
If the Government got a hold of an Adam Tree, do you honestly think they'd let such valuable wood into the black market? They'd have to be completely seperate trees, which means the notion that there could be an Adam Tree near Zoro and Perona is completely baseless.
If the Government got a hold of an Adam Tree, do you honestly think they'd let such valuable wood into the black market? They'd have to be completely seperate trees, which means the notion that there could be an Adam Tree near Zoro and Perona is completely baseless.
True they would not allow it, but it doesn't apply to the individual people who are looking after it. Corruption does exists in the marine ranks, so the fact that Franky was able to buy pieces of the wood from the black market may have been because of that.
Fair enough, but any Marine greedy enough to sell rare bulletproof wood would be paranoid out of their MIND over getting caught. Regardless of how Franky got the wood, there's no evidence to support your original theory. Although I've already confessed that it's not out-right impossible unlike I originally figured, so atleast you have that.
the next stop was franky
he's being chased by cyborg animals….cyborg bring chased by cyborgs
the next stop was franky
he's being chased by cyborg animals….cyborg bring chased by cyborgs
That's a spoiler.
the translation already came out on onemanga.com though..
Coup De Beam is coming..
It still doesn't make any sense.
I beam won't fit franky unless he can fire it out of his crotch/ass
amusing how we've seen all the Mugiwara running away from something thus far. Apart from that I felt NOTHING from Franky's this week. It was nothing differerent from the usual Mugiwara with Animals we have all the time and I think its going to be quite hard to fill out his purpose in one cover.
Franky shouldn't use beams, he should increase his air cannon and fire breath abilities somehow.
If he upgrades something technologically, it should be the bullets/nails/cannon-balls he shoots. Also give him a remote controlled thing.. like a parrot, or his hand can move on its on like in the Adams Family!!
A better anology would be when Cyborg used his arm to de-activate the Titan Tower defense systems. Because he's actually a cyborg.
It still doesn't make any sense.
yah it doesn't make sence at all….:getlost:
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If I were to attempt to express how obscure that is, I would need to invent several new swear words and compare you to every insect on Earth just to get started.
If I were to attempt to express how obscure that is, I would need to invent several new swear words and compare you to every insect on Earth just to get started.
Aren't you that guy that doeesn't like Michael Bay?
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amusing how we've seen all the Mugiwara running away from something thus far. Apart from that I felt NOTHING from Franky's this week. It was nothing differerent from the usual Mugiwara with Animals we have all the time and I think its going to be quite hard to fill out his purpose in one cover.
Agreed, I seriously hope we get something cool next week like Franky meeting Vegapunk or some other random one-shot scientist and getting some much needed upgrades.
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Agreed, I seriously hope we get something cool next week like Franky meeting Vegapunk or some other random one-shot scientist and getting some much needed upgrades.
That would be cool, but sadly I think Dr. Vegapunk is currently in the holy land. Although.. maybe Franky can sneak a peak at the pacifista blue prints. ;)
Not just sneak a peak, he should steal them!
Every SH has a piece of Rayleigh's Vivre Card, so that would lead us to all assume that all SH return to SA, where Rayleigh is.
We left Rayleigh against Kizaru, Sentomaru, and Kuma, could even the Dark King defeat those three, at once?
Probably not, and in observing his recent history as a slave, he doesn't seem too bothered when taken prisoner, or the like, and being Roger's right hand man, he'd most probably end up in Impel Down, however, as we all know, that place has a fuck-off massive hole in it, so he could just end up at Marinford, and the SH would follow his Vivre Card to there…and to Luffy!
I hope you see where I'm going, I just hope I coined this plan myself, however it's been since August last year to speculate, so I could just be a 'silver medalist' on that front.
If Rayleigh was captured, he was one of the 500 pirates that Kizaru went apeshit on. Which means he would have already been in imprisoned and either recruited as an escapee or simply gone unnoticed.
I think Kuma sent him back to the Sunny.
so, every1 was right, there IS a vegapunk in franky's island!
every1's theory is proven, now let's see the story unfold exactly as pridicted
(or will oda allow that to happen….)
It seems to me Vegapunk is no longer residing there. Either Franky is going to barge his way in and upgrade by himself or go looking for Vegapunk's new place of residence.
It seems to me Vegapunk is no longer residing there. Either Franky is going to barge his way in and upgrade by himself or go looking for Vegapunk's new place of residence.
It wouldn't be any fun if Franky didn't do a bit of exploring.
i think we wont see franky cover story anytime soon because of the pattern of 2 chapter per character.
i think we wont see franky cover story anytime soon because of the pattern of 2 chapter per character.
we just have seen his cover story?
Well we've had sanji robin franky
I think next is Chopper or nami
it could be that what ever vegapunk has in his house of birth
is used by franky to make a new battle franky or the final docking system in the sunny go and/or a body upgrade
i hope it's both
I'm sure the last Battle Franky will BE in the final docking room; and he'll be sailing it back to Shabony. Self-upgrades are also strongly anticipated.
Probably Franky will built some kind of plane. Would kind of make sense, since there still a spot left for a final vehicle in the docking system. He will probably will be able to pick up some of the crew mate with it. Chopper and Ussop probably. Let's hope this cover get animated ^^.
cover's get animated too? Cool….I haven't watched the anime in years....
I'm super excited about Franky though, he seems like he might be on the verge of a breakthrough.
I expect all the SH to be a lot stronger, especially considering Luffy discovered Haki in all it's glory...how will the others keep pace?
cover's get animated too? Cool….I haven't watched the anime in years....
I'm super excited about Franky though, he seems like he might be on the verge of a breakthrough.
I expect all the SH to be a lot stronger, especially considering Luffy discovered Haki in all it's glory...how will the others keep pace?
luffy didn't really discoveer haki
he knows about it but has seemingly taken no time to develop his own to a useable extent
Covers beeing animated well with lufy going straight into his new arc im not even sure they'll be doing that now
but if they do i hope they only do what oda wants them to do but couldn't fit into the story
but it makes upgrades diffucult as people will think they aren't cannon
