Had forgotten this was axed
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/final-days-coyote-vs-acme-140000578.html
Had forgotten this was axed
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/final-days-coyote-vs-acme-140000578.html
I saw Orion and the Dark this past weekend and, honestly, it's kind of a tough nut to crack. On one hand, the plot and characters feel a bit underdeveloped, but mainly because it's a more kid-focused movie, so you kind of forgive it. But then, in some respects, the story is actually fairly ambitious, which kind of leaves you wanting more. Oh yeah, and half the characters look like Muppets for some reason.
Still, I'm glad I saw it and it's kind of a shame this movie couldn't make it to theaters. I can think of other Dreamworks movies that were far less deserving.
Trailer for the 2nd half of Invincible Season 2 is out.
The lost pilot for The Boondocks has dropped. Don't know how long this will stay up, so see it while you can.
Full Nimona
They put the whole movie on youtube?!
They probably want the Oscar.
It'd be fantastic if that won over any of the Disney stuff considering Disney bought the studio making it and then cancelled it, but that seems unlikely. given the Miyazaki film and Spiderverse.
Alas, they're competing against Spider-Verse and Miyazaki, so kind of a lost cause. Appreciate the effort though.
Probably won't get the Oscar, but it has all the love from its viewers.
I just watch Ninona. It was a great film. I can't believe Disney drop the ball on this one and let Netflix get the movie.
So normally Jellystone is a show I have a zero interest, but apparently they just released an episode that features Space Ghost, Brak, Zorak and Moltar, and they got George Lowe and Andy Merrill back to play their respective roles.
George Lowe is showing his age, but still sounds pretty good, and Andy Merrill is on point. The guy they got to voice Moltar sounds really close to C. Martin Croker, and with Zorak I guess they're trying to emulate the 1960's voice.
From CHRIS SANDERS, director of Lilo and Stitch and the first How to Train Your Dragon, two of my all time faves. And co-director of the Croods I guess.
This one looks like a banger.
KF4 is a lighthearted romp, and it feels like it knows it. It doesn’t try to be more than that, but it doesn’t trip up trying to be more than that either. Had a fun ride with a few bumps here or there along the way.
This is gold though. The cover plays during the end credits.
That said. Speaking of Dreamworks. The Wild Robot looks awesome. Couldn’t see how the trailer’s premise could take up a whole movie, it looks like it’d work better as a short film, but then I saw cast at the end which likely implies a bigger plot which I’m kinda onboard with. Looking forward to it. Kung Fu Panda 4 was alright, but between this and the Megamind stuff that came out on Peacock, Dreamworks could use a big critical success this year.
And speaking of the Megamind stuff that came out, it’s rough. Very much in line with bad direct to Streaming Dreamworks works. That said, despite how much I did not like the sequel or the tv show, I was hooked on the final episode’s villain plot and cliffhanger. Kinda hope there’s more Megamind stuff in the future to resolve what they set up. Spoiling the premise in spoiler tags below. The concept sounds a lot cooler this way than actually watching the show.
@Robby said in Non-Disney animation thread:
From CHRIS SANDERS, director of Lilo and Stitch and the first How to Train Your Dragon, two of my all time faves. And co-director of the Croods I guess.
This one looks like a banger.
That version of "What a Wonderful World" is INSANE. The pure emotion in it. Whoever made this trailer is genius.
Never heard of The Wild Robot before. Guess I should head to the library and check it out.
Saw Kung Fu Panda 4. It was... fine... it wasn't aggressively bad... but it's not in any way a "need to see in theaters" experience. Easily the weakest film in the series. Weakest villain, weakest action, weakest plot, weakest visuals, most squandering of characters... and I don't even remember anything that happened in the third movie.
Don't see it in the theaters unless you're a die hard fan.
Why do spoiler tags just not WORK some of the time? Try again in another post
@Gizmo said in Non-Disney animation thread:
That said. Speaking of Dreamworks. The Wild Robot looks awesome. Couldn’t see how the trailer’s premise could take up a whole movie, it looks like it’d work better as a short film, but then I saw cast at the end which likely implies a bigger plot which I’m kinda onboard with.
It's an entire book trilogy, so.. there's obviously something there.
And Sanders just did Call of the Wild a few years ago which is an entire film of nothing but "dog in nature" with a little bit of help from Harrison Ford in the first movie he seemed to actually enjoy in years.
Iron Giant and Wall-E exist. And Bambi for that matter. It's easy to get a whole movie from just really vibing on the scenery and character interactions.
@Satsuki said in Non-Disney animation thread:
That version of "What a Wonderful World" is INSANE. The pure emotion in it. Whoever made this trailer is genius.
Never heard of The Wild Robot before. Guess I should head to the library and check it out.
Haven't read em myself. Keep in mind that How to Train Your Dragon bore zero resemblance to its book beyond character names, so there's no telling how closer Sanders hews to these books.
Kung Fu Panda 4 spoilers, trying again
@Robby said in Non-Disney animation thread:
@Gizmo said in Non-Disney animation thread:
That said. Speaking of Dreamworks. The Wild Robot looks awesome. Couldn’t see how the trailer’s premise could take up a whole movie, it looks like it’d work better as a short film, but then I saw cast at the end which likely implies a bigger plot which I’m kinda onboard with.
It's an entire book trilogy, so.. there's obviously something there.
And Sanders just did Call of the Wild a few years ago which is an entire film of nothing but "dog in nature" with a little bit of help from Harrison Ford in the first movie he seemed to actually enjoy in years.
Iron Giant and Wall-E exist. And Bambi for that matter. It's easy to get a whole movie from just really vibing on the scenery and character interactions.
Didn’t realize it’s a trilogy, but like you mentioned, just because it’s based on a book that doesn’t mean much. Could be doing its own thing.
And Iron Giant and Wall-E did have talking characters and a bigger plot. Bambi makes your point better, but even then, that’s a film of an older era (and characters talked in it too). Having the trailer have no dialogue was a very cool cinematic choice, just without it made it feel more like a short film to me. It’d be a very bold choice to have an animated non-talking film for a normal film’s run time, which from the trailer alone it very well could have been. A robot in the wild bonding with wildlife in an area that looks like it could be destroyed. But then you get the cast list at the end and you realize, oh, there’s gonna be talking in the film, so there’s more to the film than I thought. Or maybe there isn’t and it’ll turn out the wildlife will be able to talk and the plot will be as advertised in this trailer. Or the focus is primarily on the wildlife/robot being silent and the talking is done in a b plot of humans to explain why they’re destroying the place. Who knows, it’s a first trailer. Was providing initial thoughts.
It’s funny you mentioned call of the wild. During my Kung Fu Panda 4 watch, saw a trailer of a Mark Walberg film where he’s doing some 10 day race, but runs into a dog that follows his team on their journey. Dog films really persevere don’t they?
@Robby not too invested in the Kung Fu Panda franchise and had low expectations, so didn’t think it was that bad. But hear you on your points. To twist the knife in the wound though, found a Reddit post where someone talked with co-Director Stephanie Ma Stine, sounds like a lot of dumb people making dumb choices. Reading this summary on the interview with the highlights made me much more frustrated with the film especially given what could have been.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kungfupanda/comments/1bbbnod/comment/ku832pm/
Wow it sounds like one of the directors knew what they were doing and the other was an idiot.
I have no skin in the game and legitimately couldn’t care less about the IP. But good lord the morons responsible for the more asinine creative decisions should be blackballed.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1772702067368370517/
So-so about the news. Rewatched the film and while the animation’s still fun to watch, the plot doesn’t hold up upon rewatch. Before the “woke” crowd calls fowl though, the female group is apparently from the books. (Still kinda perpetuates animals in that world always go down a life of crime though lol)
The new episode of Invincible was really crazy.
Youtube has a few old classics up for view:
Cats Don’t Dance is a classic?
@Time-Control-Magician said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Cats Don’t Dance is a classic?
It's the best film Turner Feature Animation ever made.
Cat's Don't Dance is a classic. I still remember seeing it for the first time back in the late 90's when it first debut on Disney Channel.
@Satsuki Cats Don't Dance and Gay Purree?! i loved those movies. i still have their respective dvds.
i also saw they got The Fearless Four (1997) but its for buy or rent. but i can't believe managed to dig that little gem up after all this time
@Ubiq said in Non-Disney animation thread:
It's the best film Turner Feature Animation ever made.
I remember when the movie came out back in the day but to me it’s like it came and went and everybody moved to every other animated film that came out after which also may have succeeded or crashed and burned.
I also have never seen it but there’s a ton of animated movies I’ve yet to watch.
They are two classic movies that don't get enough love (outside animation nerds, anyway). Cats Don't Dance is the last project that Gene Kelly ever worked on (as a dance consultant) and has what are probably some of Randy Newman's best songs. And the most evil Shirley Temple villain you will ever see.
Gay Purr-ee is probably the most artistic movie the old timey UPA/WB animation ever made, written by Chuck Jones and directed by Abe Levitow (animated under Chuck). And it's got fucking JUDY GARLAND playing the heroine and singing her songs. It's the only voice role she ever did, but she's got all her heart in the singing.
Oh Gay Puree I’ve seen at least once.
As CN used to run air that semi frequently at their peak.
Interesting. I wouldn't have pegged it as something CN would air.
That was the Mr. Spim/Cartoon Network's Cartoon Theatre era and those blocks had a really wide range of films from a bunch of different studios. Everything from old HB works like A Man Called Flintstone all the way to contemporary films like (sadly) Re-Animated and in a range of quality from Nausicaa (a tie-in with TCM I believe) and Who Framed Roger Rabbit all the way down to Millionaire Dogs and, again, Re-Animated. I think I even remember Tintin and the Lake of Sharks being on during the Mr. Spim era.
Twice Upon a Time was another one that aired back then, and, if we're talking about underrated cartoon classics, TUaT is way the hell up there on my list.
For more deep cuts to cause exsanguination The fucking Phantom Tollbooth has been living in my head rent free on and off for the last 30 years.
And I never really liked the movie. All because it also used to air regularly on CN.
Tollboth's... okayish at best; really just depends on how you feel about that era of Chuck Jones' work. Juster absolutely hated it though.
On, and Lake of Sharks was on Mr. Spim. Can't believe I still remember that from almost three decades ago but I also fondly remember watching things like Project A-Ko and Dominion: Tank Police on Sci-Fi Channel back then as well.
@Time-Control-Magician said in Non-Disney animation thread:
For more deep cuts to cause exsanguination The fucking Phantom Tollbooth has been living in my head rent free on and off for the last 30 years.
And I never really liked the movie. All because it also used to air regularly on CN.
You mean . . . . this?
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Hey, blame Youtube, not me.
You actually reminded me I’ve seen it advertised on YouTube.
Like I said it sits in my head rent free.
I never liked the Jones version of Phantom Tollbooth because I actually read the book first. It was a valiant attempt to recreate the same humor but the endless assault of word puns didn't transfer great to the visual medium.
Chuck Jones was always good and there are merits to the thing, but its not favorite of mine. I liked his Kipling adaptations way more.
@Time-Control-Magician said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Cats Don’t Dance is a classic?
100% absolutely it is. Great songs, great animation, fun characters, amazing villains.
It's also really easy to see why it didn't do well (the lack of advertising was a biggie though)
@Ubiq said in Non-Disney animation thread:but I also fondly remember watching things like Project A-Ko and Dominion: Tank Police on Sci-Fi Channel back then as well.
Saturday Morning anime back before anime was a big thing by name in the US.
Tank Police still holds a major soft spot in my heart. Along with Green Legend Ran, the A-ko movies, Lodoss War, Venus Wars, Galaxy Express 999, the second Lum movie... and of course the big staple "these are adult cartoons that aren't like your American cartoons" Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, and Akira.
I'm sure there's a list somewhere of the things they aired that would open a floodgate of "I remember that!" that I haven't thought about in 25+ years..
@Robby said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Chuck Jones was always good and there are merits to the thing, but its not favorite of mine. I liked his Kipling adaptations way more.
Now those are definitely rare and under-discussed; I don't know when the last time I've seen Rikki-Tikki-Tavi on anywhere was or even saw somebody bring it up. Even Cricket on the Hearth seems to get more mentions if only because of how forgotten it is compared to The Grinch.
Saturday Morning anime back before anime was a big thing by name in the US.
Tank Police still holds a major soft spot in my heart. Along with Green Legend Ran, the A-ko movies, Lodoss War, Venus Wars, Galaxy Express 999, the second Lum movie... and of course the big staple "these are adult cartoons that aren't like your American cartoons" Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, and Akira.
I'm sure there's a list somewhere of the things they aired that would open a floodgate of "I remember that!" that I haven't thought about in 25+ years..
I remember they had the Saturday block but also occasionally did week long premieres. Like one year was something like Roujin Z, Tenchi Muyo in Love, Armitage III (which was pretty heavily promoted back then for having Elizabeth Berkeley in the cast), and... I think it was something like Iria: Zeiram The Animation. Ran might have also been from that week.
Some of the other things I remember first seeing on there were Vampire Hunter D, Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture, Gall Force, LilyCAT, and Robot Carnival.
A-Ko was my GIRL. After worshipping Sailor Moon it was even more amazing to see a high school girl who could kick butt even harder.
@Time-Control-Magician i've had many that have lived rent free in my head. so much that if started charging, i'd be rich.
name a rare animated movie and i'll say i've seen it before.
@Ubiq said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Now those are definitely rare and under-discussed; I don't know when the last time I've seen Rikki-Tikki-Tavi on anywhere was or even saw somebody bring it up. Even Cricket on the Hearth seems to get more mentions if only because of how forgotten it is compared to The Grinch.
Nickelodeon aired them a bunch back in the day. I might have actually seen that version of Jungle Book before the Disney
Certainly more often.
When I got around actually reading the book I was surprised by just how close Rikki Tiki and the White Seal were, like line for line aside from some minor padding.
I remember they had the Saturday block but also occasionally did week long premieres. Like one year was something like Roujin Z, Tenchi Muyo in Love, Armitage III (which was pretty heavily promoted back then for having Elizabeth Berkeley in the cast), and... I think it was something like Iria: Zeiram The Animation. Ran might have also been from that week.
Yeah they had those big premiere event weeks and then added them into the rotation. Slowly but surely they eventually had enough programs that they rarely repeated during the year. They were basically all licensed from like three distributors so it was basically free advertising for Streamline Pictures, Manga Entertainment and Central Park Media.
Some of the other things I remember first seeing on there were Vampire Hunter D, Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture, Gall Force, LilyCAT, and Robot Carnival.
Wow haven't thought of LilyCAT or Gall Force in ages. Robot Carnival is great though, own that one.
Found a listing!
https://www.anime-planet.com/users/LordBison/lists/sci-fi-channel-90s-anime-saturday-anime-775018
Wow, could it really have been only 26 titles? I can't think of any that are missing so maybe that really was all. That would explain why it felt like they reran it so often. If they only added 4 a year that means they would have been looping only 13 films the first year or two, so they would have been in super regular rotation. No wonder Akira stopped feeling like an event if I was catching it 3-4 times a year.
I know a few years later they brought the line back for late night and threw in stuff like Gurren Laggan, Appleseed, X and Macross Plus, but anime wasn't the weird exotic thing you could only find on that channel by then (since Cartoon Network got the memo) so the novelty was gone.
@Robby said in Non-Disney animation thread:
Found a listing!
https://www.anime-planet.com/users/LordBison/lists/sci-fi-channel-90s-anime-saturday-anime-775018
Wow, could it really have been only 26 titles? I can't think of any that are missing so maybe that really was all. That would explain why it felt like they reran it so often. If they only added 4 a year that means they would have been looping only 13 films the first year or two, so they would have been in super regular rotation. No wonder Akira stopped feeling like an event if I was catching it 3-4 times a year.
I think part of it was that some of them were split up across two weeks so it felt like there were more films in the rotation; Tank Police, for instance, would have been three hours long with commercials in the mix so they just aired two episodes a week.
That said, it does feel like something is missing there and I don't remember Ronin Warriors being part of the Saturday lineup. If nothing else, it was brand new to me when I saw it on Toonami and that would have only been a year or two later. It might have been a morning show though or aired really early in the run.