@gotta<3OP:
Glad I'm not he only one seeing the absurdity in that statement.
Now we can let that topic rest.
What do you guys think will be Robin's main power up?
We saw the huge legs and all, but that's hardly the best use for her devil fruit…
I thought her clones was the main power up? She can do the whole Mirage thing Nami does and the wax figures Mr.3 does. Im sure we will also see A LOT more new moves from everybody
@gotta<3OP:
Glad I'm not he only one seeing the absurdity in that statement.
Now we can let that topic rest.
What do you guys think will be Robin's main power up?
We saw the huge legs and all, but that's hardly the best use for her devil fruit…
Haki plus A form of Shigan would make her power rise drastically I think. But she needs a way to deal with difficult devil fruit users. For instance if she ever meets Crocodile again. Or even someone like Mr.1
Robin with dials would've been tops. Jet dialing around, axing and impacting people in the chest.
Heck Robin with mobility would clean up most anyone
@gotta<3OP:
Glad I'm not he only one seeing the absurdity in that statement.
Now we can let that topic rest.
What do you guys think will be Robin's main power up?
We saw the huge legs and all, but that's hardly the best use for her devil fruit…
Her wings now last long enough now for her to just to fly over places while she just looks down at them then she snaps the enemy's necks that are below her thinking she is just a bird flying by!
So what kind of weather balls does Nami now have? Predicitions?
Lightning
Rain
Gust
And? There must be at least 5 or six I'd think, for those two years of training with them
@Vash:
So what kind of weather balls does Nami now have? Predicitions?
Lightning
Rain
GustAnd? There must be at least 5 or six I'd think, for those two years of training with them
Its kind of farfetched, but I wouldn't mind seeing her do something with thunder. Using sound as a weapon would be creatively delicious.
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Its kind of farfetched, but I wouldn't mind seeing her do something with thunder. Using sound as a weapon would be creatively delicious.
Brook?????????????????
@Superbear:
Brook?????????????????
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If you guys need me, I'll be laying low for a while to hide in my shame.
@Jabra - you killed it with that post up there.
There's no way that Sanji could be Shichibukai-level. Luffy's Shichibukai-level, and I'mma' say that's only been post-TS. Yes, he's cained Croc + Moria, but the 1st time he frankly was lucky that he didn't die twice and was doubly lucky that he was bleeding (or was that sweating…?) like fxck, the 2nd occasion he'd been powered up by 300 shadows(?). To add to this, Moria got demoted, which clarifies the fact that he's a level below his former colleagues.
If Sanji could take out Law, for instance, right now, then so could Zoro, and with that, so could 10's of other tough pirates, and if that was the case, the very nature of the Shichibukai'd be directly undermined. Most of them've been seen to travel alone, so if 30% of any half-decent crew could take them out, individually, then you're not only cheapening the total value of the 7 Warlords, but that of the WG and the Yonkou. The power lies between these 3 parties, and with that being the case, joined by the fact that the WG refused to reveal information about Moria's beatdown to the World suggests that each of the Warlords harbour a tremendous amount of power. If any old Tom, Dick or Sanji were to be that powerful then shxt'd be fxcked up. What's more, there'd be no more buildings and shxt - because with that many tough cxnts knocking about civilization'd surely end.
I don't see Sanji or Zoro far behind Luffy at all. There are certainly different levels among the War Lords, but both Sanji and Zoro are undoubtedly on the level of Croc, Jinbe and Moriah. White Beards guys were handling all the War Lords, it would suggest other great crews could do the same, if anything that was a precursor to the Straw Hat's future.
The problem is that there are different power levels WITHIN the Shichibukai.
There are Shichi whom Sanji could defeat, and then there are Shichi who could destroy him, LOL.
The problem is that there are different power levels WITHIN the Shichibukai.
There are Shichi whom Sanji could defeat, and then there are Shichi who could destroy him, LOL.
EXACTLY, same goes for Luffy or Zoro (obviously). I think considering that Moria and Crocodile were in the first half of the GL and not in the NW world could be a clue that they aren't as strong as their colleagues. Then again Hancock is their as well and she was unharmed during the war, but she seems to be their out of convenience while Crocodile and Moria seemed to be there out of necessity. In the NW, Moria got r@ped by Kaidou and Crocodile had no ability to use haki and wasn't much of a fighter (comparatively speaking, he wanted to be a mafia head not a direct opponent)
#45lyfer
EXACTLY, same goes for Luffy or Zoro (obviously). I think considering that Moria and Crocodile were in the first half of the GL and not in the NW world could be a clue that they aren't as strong as their colleagues. Then again Hancock is their as well and she was unharmed during the war, but she seems to be their out of convenience while Crocodile and Moria seemed to be there out of necessity. In the NW, Moria got r@ped by Kaidou and Crocodile had no ability to use haki and wasn't much of a fighter (comparatively speaking, he wanted to be a mafia head not a direct opponent)
No, no all Shichibukai's are near equal… Probably at the same level as Mihawk, the world strongest swordsman who can rival Shanks
That's why
Boa and her island needs the WG for protection of her island
and
Jinbe needed it as well for Fishmen island and now from Big Mom, cuz he outright stated that his name and strenght is shit and not be able to protect it with his crew
No, no all Shichibukai's are near equal… Probably at the same level as Mihawk, the world strongest swordsman who can rival Shanks
That's why Boa and her island needs the WG for protection of her island
and Jinbe needed it as well for Fishmen island and now from Big Mom, cuz he outright stated that his name and strenght is shit and not be able to protect it with his crew
Did you mean to say "NOT" because considering Doflamingo dominated Moria, so did Jimbe. Your example seem to indicate that you're saying that they aren't all equal which is what I was saying. I was saying the weaker Shichibukai seem to stay in the NW but I think Boa is an exception considering she owned pacifistas and has CoC, while Moria and Crocodile didn't have haki pre-TS.
#45lyfer
Did you mean to say "NOT" because considering Doflamingo dominated Moria, so did Jimbe. Your example seem to indicate that you're saying that they aren't all equal which is what I was saying. I was saying the weaker Shichibukai seem to stay in the NW but I think Boa is an exception considering she owned pacifistas and has CoC, while Moria and Crocodile didn't have haki pre-TS.
I was sarcastic^^
And btw Boa owned PCs who weren't programmed to attack her, even if she is still strong… But as I said. Shichibukai isn't a damn level as we have seen for example with the admirals, who were all 3 beasts
From Mihawk down to Croc/Moria or now Buggy is a big way... And no Jinbe is shit to Mihawk and he himself admitted it after saying that he needs Big Mom for his crew and island.
@RomanceDawn - Yeah man, exactly, the fact that the WB Elites could take on Shichibukai is a 'precursor' on Zoro and Sanji's strength. I do not believe that those 2 could not axe a Warlord to shxt come the manga's finale, but now, that'd be fxcked up.
@TheCrystalShip - There are different levels of power within the Shichibukai, hence the fact that Moria got demoted, but they're all of a very similar level, unlike the fluctuating power levels of the SH. The balance World power depends on these guys - - they have to be something special.
@CaptainKidd - Crocodile's hard as nails and you know it. He didn't need Haki back on Alabasta because he was the master of his DF. Now in the NW, I'm sure that he's developed his skills. Equally, he went 1-to-1 with Doflamingo @ Marineford.
Moria only got demoted because he lost his crew, which would quite easily denote his weakness, however, if TB shows anything, it shows that Moria was just lazy as fxck. With that, and a loss of his crew, the man became immediately too weak for the Shichibukai. His strength, fxck it, his DF, lends itself to having a powerful crew - It's part of his power. Meanwhile, Mihawk floats about in a coffin because he can render a boat halved in 1 slash. Would this make him more powerful? In a singular sense, yes, however, what the fxck's Mihawk gonna' do w/o a shadow?
All these guys're powerful, they must be the cream of piracy. The WG has access to loads of insanely strong pirates @ Impel Down, and think of how many of them'd wish to be free from the daily torture they face to be promoted to 'Government Dog'. That's quite a number, right? And still these guys're on top.
Buggy da world power and Jinbe da world power who can protect shit raedy to join Luffy, cuz he believes he can protect fishmen island
And no Jinbe is shit to Mihawk and he himself admitted it after saying that he needs Big Mom for his crew and island.
I disagree. Protecting a whole island that humans don't care about, that all wanna-be pirates come by, and that the Four Emperors wouldn't mind adding to their collection.. it's a tough job. Jimbei's name was enough to protect it in the past, because he was a Shichibukai, which also implicitly added WG support to FI protection. But as a renegade, attaching his name to the islands protection would only get the island into trouble.
Unlike Luffy, who is an ambitious idiot with a crew, Jimbei is a lone man who knows better than to make the thing he is protecting a target with his own presence. 
I disagree. Protecting a whole island that humans don't care about, that all wanna-be pirates come by, and that the Four Emperors wouldn't mind adding to their collection.. it's a tough job. Jimbei's name was enough to protect it in the past, because he was a Shichibukai, which also implicitly added WG support to FI protection. But as a renegade, attaching his name to the islands protection would only get the island into trouble.
Unlike Luffy, who is an ambitious idiot with a crew, Jimbei is a lone man who knows better than to make the thing he is protecting a target with his own presence.
Doesn't change the mere fact that he isn't strong enough either to do so… And so is his crew, who need's Big Mom protection.
Mihawk is a loner who gives afuck and we know that he is at the top of the world. Main point is there are big noticeable gaps between the Shichibukai's.
If someone seriously think that for example Law is already close to Mihawk level, is completely insane
I was sarcastic^^
And btw Boa owned PCs who weren't programmed to attack her, even if she is still strong…
The same PCs who were able to take full power shots from Luffy/Zoro/Sanji and the rest of the SH's and get up, she took them out in 1 shot. I think that along with the fact she has CoC proves she is on a different level than Moria/Crocodile but not quite at a Mihawk/Doflamingo level. Then again she along with those two was one of the few people who weren't harmed during the war.
The same Pxs were one shotted by current monster trio as well, even while attacking.
Not saying she is weak after all or can be compared to Moria/Croc/Buggy
!) Buggy.
!!) Crocodile, Moria.
!!!) Jinbē, Hancock.
!!!!) Law, Mihawk, Doflamingo, Kuma.
I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
Law = Mihawk LOL
You might wanna swap Law with Hancock. But this power ranking is really pointless anyways
Yeah… Maybe I overestimated Law, LOL. It's just that his DF looks so useful. 
Yes crystal's list with Buggy as the undisputed head honcho makes sense.
You know it is supposed to be the other way around right
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Jabra: Don't want to quote you because so long of a post, but that's a really cool observation
Thank you! Took some time to find the panels again, but I think it makes alot of sense and explains well why Oda paired Sanji with Jinbe.
I feel like Luffy is Shichi-level now, and the only Shichi whom Sanji could defeat,have probably grown much stronger over the timeskip, just like he did.
Yeah, I think Sanji/Zoro could defeat pre-ts Moriah or pre-ts Crocodile in a plot battle. But at least Crocodile is officially set up to be a major player again, and he did extremely well in the war (and he actually engaged dangerous opponents)
@Jabra - you killed it with that post up there. There's no way that Sanji could be Shichibukai-level. Luffy's Shichibukai-level, and I'mma' say that's only been post-TS. Yes, he's cained Croc + Moria, but the 1st time he frankly was lucky that he didn't die twice and was doubly lucky that he was bleeding (or was that sweating…?) like fxck, the 2nd occasion he'd been powered up by 300 shadows(?). To add to this, Moria got demoted, which clarifies the fact that he's a level below his former colleagues. If Sanji could take out Law, for instance, right now, then so could Zoro, and with that, so could 10's of other tough pirates, and if that was the case, the very nature of the Shichibukai'd be directly undermined. Most of them've been seen to travel alone, so if 30% of any half-decent crew could take them out, individually, then you're not only cheapening the total value of the 7 Warlords, but that of the WG and the Yonkou. The power lies between these 3 parties, and with that being the case, joined by the fact that the WG refused to reveal information about Moria's beatdown to the World suggests that each of the Warlords harbour a tremendous amount of power. If any old Tom, Dick or Sanji were to be that powerful then shxt'd be fxcked up. What's more, there'd be no more buildings and shxt - because with that many tough cxnts knocking about civilization'd surely end.
Sigh, thank you. I fully agree, no one says that Zoro and Sanji are weak or anything, but at this point in the series it would be weird for them to match figures like Mihawk, Hancock, Jinbe or Law.
@RomanceDawn - Yeah man, exactly, the fact that the WB Elites could take on Shichibukai is a 'precursor' on Zoro and Sanji's strength. I do not believe that those 2 could not axe a Warlord to shxt come the manga's finale, but now, that'd be fxcked up. @TheCrystalShip - There are different levels of power within the Shichibukai, hence the fact that Moria got demoted, but they're all of a very similar level, unlike the fluctuating power levels of the SH. The balance World power depends on these guys - - they have to be something special. @CaptainKidd - Crocodile's hard as nails and you know it. He didn't need Haki back on Alabasta because he was the master of his DF. Now in the NW, I'm sure that he's developed his skills. Equally, he went 1-to-1 with Doflamingo @ Marineford. Moria only got demoted because he lost his crew, which would quite easily denote his weakness, however, if TB shows anything, it shows that Moria was just lazy as fxck. With that, and a loss of his crew, the man became immediately too weak for the Shichibukai. His strength, fxck it, his DF, lends itself to having a powerful crew - It's part of his power. Meanwhile, Mihawk floats about in a coffin because he can render a boat halved in 1 slash. Would this make him more powerful? In a singular sense, yes, however, what the fxck's Mihawk gonna' do w/o a shadow? All these guys're powerful, they must be the cream of piracy. The WG has access to loads of insanely strong pirates @ Impel Down, and think of how many of them'd wish to be free from the daily torture they face to be promoted to 'Government Dog'. That's quite a number, right? And still these guys're on top.
**I agree with all of that. Of course there are differences between them, and some might have the edge over others (Jinbe could probably defeat Crocodile due the water weakness, while the latter could do better against Doflamingo). But over all, there is nothing that indicates major differences between them. Moriah is the only one who got officially singled out because he got lazy, Crocodile got demoted because he tried to overthrow Alabasta (Shichi's are allowed to do a lot of illegal stuff, but actually attacking the government they are working for? Bye Bye.)
Whatever. I understand why people deem them weaker than the others. I don't agree for Crocodile (for various reasons), but at least I can comprehend why - they simply failed at one point, not talking about circumstances.
Now to something that I just don't get, why do people believe that Jinbe is weaker than the rest? I'm really the only one who realizes that Oda desperately keeps him on a leash? That he is saving his true strength for "something" coughbigmumwarcough?
Let's take a look, after all he is around for quite some time now.
Impel Down.
He fights his way through all 6 hell's, together with Luffy and Crocodile. The fodder is taken care of as always, and the feared Demon Guards are defeated in a similiar fashion.
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Alright, next they meet Blackbeard. Jinbe is the voice of reason and stops Luffy from engaging in combat, because they have a greater goal: saving Ace - in time.
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Perfectly explaining why 3 Shichibukai level characters (Ivankov, Jinbe + Croc) and pre time skip Luffy don't even dare to battle Magellan. Yes, his power is insane, but I doubt he could easily handle all four of them. Ivankov told them that getting infected by his poison means certain death, sooner or later, and the grand goal is to kill Whitebeard, or support Whitebeard, and ultimately saving Ace. It would have made no sense to engage him, not even after Jinbe got actually access to water.
Which brings me to Oda's next tease: Jinbe is in his element and could, in theory, even attack Magellan with ranged water attacks and dodge anything Magellan had to offer. He had the advantage. But again, it was not the goal to defeat the warden. Making it to the execution platform in time was.
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Leaving us with Jinbe not able to show his true power. Oda even teases us with him accidently going overboard. Everyone pretty much knows the panel I'm talking about. Here is it anyway.
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This was it for the Impel Down arc. I try the best I can, but I can see no weakness**.
Only Oda keeping him on a leash.**
Now to the war of the best.
Amazing, an island surrounded by lots of water, even perfectly shaped to utilize it on the battlefield (the middle):
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But no, f§$% that. No water for you Jinbe.
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From here on, everything Jinbe does is considered "on land", where Jinbe claims that he is "useless".
Let's see how useless he is.
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Probably the scene most Moriah fans hate the most, because it was likely one of the reasons why the Government deemed him as "too weak". He was no victim of a surprise attack there (like Crocodile/Jozu), or had to handle multiple opponents (Aokiji vs WB + Jozu). Moriah made the call in an empowered shadowform and got his ass handed to him by Jinbe. It doesn't matter that he was back up a few chapters later, all that matters is the message behind it - Moriah doesn't cut it anymore.
Personally I believe that he will make a grand come back in the NW, but lets stick with Jinbe for the moment.
His next moment is also well known, and probably one of the most impressive feats in the series so far. It isn't as flashy as, lets say, turning into a burning blue phoenix, but he did something only 3 other characters accomplished so far, WB, Shanks and Aokiji - the absolute top dogs in the OP world.
And now everybody knows what comes next:
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Jinbe blocked an attack of the absolute highest tier there is, from a character that is speculated to be the main villain of the series (alongside Blackbeard). With one. Damn. Hand. In a condition he himself considers "suboptimal".
Now, Jinbe goes "crazy heroic deosn't make sense" mode.
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At this point it is impossible to properly judge. It is the same nonsense as with Ace throwing himself in front of Akainu, instead of launching a real attack to block him.
Anyway, Jinbe turns his back against a freaking Admiral, arguably the strongest of the three, and runs away with an unconscious Luffy in his arms, taking any attack the others couldn't block. I don't say that he would have won against an Admiral, in my book none of the Shchi's can, but no one can deny that there was a proper handycap. Be it mentally or physically.
So, that was it for Marineford. Jinbe holding his own against anyone, while trashing a former Shichi, and sacrificing himself at the end. He couldn't uitilize his element, his "devil fruit", so to say, and still showed no sign of weakness.
Again, even at the war of the best, Oda kept him on a leash.
Next, the fishmen island arc. Here I thought we would see the full extent of what Jinbe is capable of. His "real arc".
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And that is exactly what happened. He let Luffy take down Hody. He let Luffy, a devil fruit user, fight a drugged fishmen underwater (despite Jinbe cursing the water weakness of Luffy time and time again in the past).
Like it or not, the plan was to let the SH's shine, not "Boss" Jinbe, who is already well respected. And it worked in the end.
But again, Oda kept him on a leash. In all three arcs was always "something" that prevented him from going all out, while always holding his own against anyone in his league (means anything below Admiral).
Like many speculate, the Big Mum arc is where it will probably all unload, at least that is how I see it.
In any case, I see no reason to place Jinbe below any other Shichibukai introduced so far, bar Moriah for obvious reasons.
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And I don't think Oda does as well.**
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I, too, am interested to see how Jinbē will perform in his element. He could even be as strong as Mihawk/Doflamingo, as you suggest.
Now that i'm re-reading W7 it really seems weird to me that Luchi didn't know how to use even basic haki.
And yet the vice-admiral seemed to view him as somewhat of an equal. Guess he showed just how far you can go with just physical strength
Now that i'm re-reading W7 it really seems weird to me that Luchi didn't know how to use even basic haki.
And yet the vice-admiral seemed to view him as somewhat of an equal. Guess he showed just how far you can go with just physical strength
More like, Oda hadn't finished masterminding Haki, so it wasn't present in those arcs.
I know you're trying to figure out in-universe reasons, but I don't think there are any, LOL.
I guess. Just seems strange since haki was hinted at since the very first volume.
Along with Mantra. But Haki is an ability that has to be awakened, so maybe it deals with the experiences. Since they lived most of their life undercover and not always fighting grueling battles.
More like, Oda hadn't finished masterminding Haki, so it wasn't present in those arcs.
I know you're trying to figure out in-universe reasons, but I don't think there are any, LOL.
Nah, I doubt that. As P1nk and wolfwood said, there were hints even before Water7 about Haki (Mantra ftw!). And I think wolfwood had it right (more or less), since we have seen that Luffy can win against (basic at least) Haki users just fine (I have Boa´s sisters in mind…). Since Lucchi´s attacks were about as strong as Luffy, I do think he´d have some chances against basic users (or at least those who aren´t profficient with CoA).
Now that i'm re-reading W7 it really seems weird to me that Luchi didn't know how to use even basic haki.
And yet the vice-admiral seemed to view him as somewhat of an equal. Guess he showed just how far you can go with just physical strength
You could as well speculate that he knew it by different names, like the bilkans didnt really know what haki was, but were mantra specialist. The idea that at least part of the marine called the armament haki, shigan (wasnt it that) which in many ways could be explaned as an haki power.
Nobody ever said that shigan was haki.
You could as well speculate that he knew it by different names, like the bilkans didnt really know what haki was, but were mantra specialist. The idea that at least part of the marine called the armament haki, shigan (wasnt it that) which in many ways could be explaned as an haki power.
I think if Shigan were a Haki based power, it would have more of an affect on Luffy. It only proved deadly with a sharp edge added to it.
Hadn't even thought about that. But tekkai IS awfully similar to armament haki.
One is mental and the other is physical but they acheive almost the same thing.
Wonder if you could enhance tekkai with CoA? The CP9 would've been unstoppable
Nah, I doubt that. As P1nk and wolfwood said, there were hints even before Water7 about Haki (Mantra ftw!).
You don't think those were, you know… Retcons?
Anyway, I would not be surprised if Rokushiki were based on certain Haki techniques,
because Kami-e looks a LOT like Kenbunshoku, and Tekkai is somewhat similar to Busoshoku.
Hard to know really. Oda did put haki right in to the first chapters, and has as far as i can recall claimed that he knows exactly how the end-game is going to play out.
So i always figured that he had a somewhat clear picture of what part haki was going to play. But then again that doesn't rule out tweaking
CP9 were meant to be Assassins of the Government.
I would say that instead of them learning Haki and its multitude of uses instead they specialise in 6 sure fire killing techniques - CoA with an expert Haki user would be at min on par with Tekkai but Tekkai only would be easier to focus on then all the other benifits of CoA.
If that makes sense.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
CP9 were meant to be Assassins of the Government.
I would say that instead of them learning Haki and its multitude of uses instead they specialise in 6 sure fire killing techniques - CoA with an expert Haki user would be at min on par with Tekkai but Tekkai only would be easier to focus on then all the other benifits of CoA.
If that makes sense.
This would make sense.
I keep forgetting that assassins are not supposed to fight one on one like they did against the strawhats. Their whole purpose is to kill quickly, silently, and without anybody knowing who dealt the killing.
So i guess in that sense, haki would be less necessary than rokushiki moves. When it comes to assassination, rokushiki seems like it would be a lot more effective than haki.
You don't think those were, you know… Retcons?
Anyway, I would not be surprised if Rokushiki were based on certain Haki techniques,
because Kami-e looks a LOT like Kenbunshoku, and Tekkai is somewhat similar to Busoshoku.
If it were it would be very basic it seems. As Tekkai doesn't allow you to move and can be broken easily. It's not stronger then steel. Kami-E only allows you to dodge, while Mantra was shown allowing much greater detail into oncoming attacks and dodging along with sensing death, emotions and people.
Ok here is something that is confusing me. With the extreme speed Luffy is being shown with now I'm very excited too see a proper Zoro fight because if the "power levels" within the crew are to remain similar to how they were before the timeskip, Zoro will have to have a serious jump in strength, reflexes and resistant to be able to keep up to how close in strength he is to Luffy.
Oh and it seems that if a person doesn't have CoO it will be very hard for them too keep up with Luffy so as long as Luffy lands his hits it will be very one sided fights. And in this thinking (by me) Zoro will have some insane CoO abilities to keep him in a close level with Luffy.
Y'know i'm kinda suprised that Buggy doesn't know basic haki either. Assuming that Shanks picked it up at Roger's ship.
As for Zoro and Luffy, i think this is where Luffy really sets himself apart from his crew. I think that from now on it'll be more Whitebeard and Marco than equals
Y'know i'm kinda suprised that Buggy doesn't know basic haki either. Assuming that Shanks picked it up at Roger's ship.
As for Zoro and Luffy, i think this is where Luffy really sets himself apart from his crew. I think that from now on it'll be more Whitebeard and Marco than equals
I think Buggy never really trained and was content with just having treasure.
Also I think it's unwise to count Zoro out. He constantly pushes himself to the limit to be better.
I guess he could revert it back to them being sort of equals. But to me it would just seem strange for the crew to have two Whitebeards.
As for Buggy could just be as simple as that. Still wonder what brand of haki would suit him best:ninja:
I guess he could revert it back to them being sort of equals. But to me it would just seem strange for the crew to have two Whitebeards.
As for Buggy could just be as simple as that. Still wonder what brand of haki would suit him best:ninja:
I'd say CoA to go with his knives. It kinda feels like he would throw them. He's already immune to slashes.
I think more of a Roger/Rayleigh power scale, or Shanks and his top guys.
Zoro will be a legend in his own right, but there may be just a few foes he has trouble with, likewise with Luffy there may be someone who isn't a good match up for him.
I'd say CoA to go with his knives. It kinda feels like he would throw them. He's already immune to slashes.
I think more of a Roger/Rayleigh power scale, or Shanks and his top guys.
Zoro will be a legend in his own right, but there may be just a few foes he has trouble with, likewise with Luffy there may be someone who isn't a good match up for him.
That's a given seeing as he aims to be the worlds strongest swordsman.
And I think it will be a lot like the Roger/ Rayleigh style then Whitebeard/ Marco (but again we don't know Rayleigh's, Roger's and Marco's true strengths.)
