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    Predicting Oda - The yet unseen 4th type of Devil Fruits.

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      If there's one thing that Shonen Mangas love to do, it's going out of their way to make better versions of everything they've introduced. Things with more power, and more features, to both obstruct and aid the protagonist.

      Devil fruits are no exception - the story so far has shown us three types of devil fruits, and it has generally ramped up their power as time goes on, showing the weaker versions of a type first then showing the stronger ones (in recent memory there's been plenty of grossly strong logia's and paramecia's introduced). Where do we go from here?

      If One Piece is going to go as long as most people think it will, then Oda likely has plans for a 4th type of Devil Fruit. Given that it'll be introduced as the rarest type of fruit, it may be (in part) referred to as the legendary class of fruits - limited in number (less than 10 alltogether), with powers that can encompass aspects of the 3 lesser classes.

      As for what the fruits could be to where they wouldn't exactly fall into any of the existing catagories, think broad macro ideas to where it limits to fruit to only having a very limited amount. Examples of broad spectrum ideas that would be things like "Knowledge Knowledge fruit" (user gains near omnscient knowledge of the world/technology), "Power Power fruit" (user gains power/strength in a variety of different forms all at once), and so on. Essentially, fruits that would make the person who ate them turn immediately God-tier (even moreso than the strongest logias).

      Of course, the above guesses are merely that - guesses, but you can be sure that at some point in the story, a 4th type of fruit will be introduced that'll at the very least have the qualities of extreme rarity, low quantity, and absurd power (moreso than logias) - it's the shonen manga way afterall.

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        this so sounds like naruto, combining element blah blah rasengan shuriken.. zzzz

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          ancient zoans…...?

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            A devil fruit that turns you into a giant desert wormsea-king and you live out the rest of your life as the king of the sea.

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              After learning that there is a super rare DF category out there we will near to raftel find one unique DF that surpass all the new one we knew about. But roger had a DF that was much better than these legendary fruits and was given to him by the GL spirit itself.

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                haki haki fruit anyone?

                "Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy

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                  Zoans are animals, Logias are elements, and Paramecias are anything else.
                  So even if they are insanely overpowered, your examples would still be Paramecias. There's no need for a 4th type. (And ancient Zoans are still Zoans)

                  Also, having such "insanely overpowered" DFs would be boring. I prefer charakters who use their limited DF abilities in the most useful/creative way, like Luffy/Robin.

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                    i think that there the 4th fruit will not be a devil fruit but a god fruit!!!!!!
                    The after eating thoese types you can't live on land anymore, so the only one who can eat and survive this are fishes, fishmen, merfolk and sea kings.

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                      Dr Vegabank will learn to fuse devil fruits or even synthetically create them, thus ensuring the World Government are the "end bosses" of One Piece.

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                        sort of what sunwukong said. it'll be Myth-type fruits. looking back i think Morgan made a pass about DF users being able to summon tsunamis and the like. this was probably anime filler but it inspires my thinking. users would be able to transform into certain gods at will much like devilman, taking the form of human most of the time. i mentioned something earlier about demonic powers. i would like to see these sort of melee monsters with variable abilities. so far the zoans are pretty uninspired, i don't see how animals are impressive when most real world animals get one-punched easily in one piece. even chumps like t-bone can take out massive sea-kings. anyway oda seems intent on covering all the evils of humanity, so true devils will come in when there are none left to fight.
                        different fruits could be such as, Beelezebub fruit, Leviathan fruit, Behemoth fruit, Oni fruit etc. they wouldn't be as powerful as the true legends, but for maybe the last one to keep a lined power structure. they'll be more like inspired by the gods.

                        purple kool-aid is the shit. my shit is gonna be puke.

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                          sort of what sunwukong said. it'll be Myth-type fruits. looking back i think Morgan made a pass about DF users being able to summon tsunamis and the like. this was probably anime filler but it inspires my thinking. users would be able to transform into certain gods at will much like devilman, taking the form of human most of the time. i mentioned something earlier about demonic powers. i would like to see these sort of melee monsters with variable abilities. so far the zoans are pretty uninspired, i don't see how animals are impressive when most real world animals get one-punched easily in one piece. even chumps like t-bone can take out massive sea-kings. anyway oda seems intent on covering all the evils of humanity, so true devils will come in when there are none left to fight.
                          different fruits could be such as, Beelezebub fruit, Leviathan fruit, Behemoth fruit, Oni fruit etc. they wouldn't be as powerful as the true legends, but for maybe the last one to keep a lined power structure. they'll be more like inspired by the gods.

                          the one piece world has myths that might not be related to the real worlds one. The difference between a sea king and a zoan ability user is that the sea king has massive power but can't think about strategies to use it in different attacks. Basically they are not that intelligent. Zoans can develop their power and invent unique attacks etc…

                          All we have seen in this manga that normal village people in the OP world call godlike is mostly a DF ability. Now i don't think it's totally impossible but to me it seems unlikely that you will have such fruits based on real world legends.

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                            not quite sure about that. aren't sea kings just like the serpents of yore? the kind you see on an old map. they have numbers, and plenty of natural abilities like poisons. their real limitation is the land which are cut-off safe points for the humans to rest upon and toil. anyway odz was called "devil" so why the hell not? could be any number of monsters, and most i mentioned are biblical and lo, B.K. carries a what? maybe he's the WG's prime demon assassin and it's his textbook…as for zoans i have to stick with what i said. all of them thus far rely on a weapon or drug-enhancer or haki in the case of the snake sisters...it's just a way of showing off a new character design for the price of one entry. i'd just love o see what oda could do with traditional monsters, because it'd be just another obstacle for him and that always makes his talents shine.

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                              @zah. pt 2: if there will be anything like that maybe its gonna be related to sanji coz in the sbs oda said that sanji is a part of the 7 great mysteries of one piece thus also mentioning that sanji is a devil fruit but maybe its just a joke from oda because ado also mentioned that because of sanji's eyebrows he said that it looks like that from a devil fruit and also we can see sanji's interest to devil fruits specially the one absalom ate lulz
                              and i'n not sue but i think the seaking they are reffering is the one from pokemon but i'm not sure

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                                what the shit did u just say

                                purple kool-aid is the shit. my shit is gonna be puke.

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                                  @zah. pt 2: if there will be anything like that maybe its gonna be related to sanji coz in the sbs oda said that sanji is a part of the 7 great mysteries of one piece thus also mentioning that sanji is a devil fruit but maybe its just a joke from oda because ado also mentioned that because of sanji's eyebrows he said that it looks like that from a devil fruit and also we can see sanji's interest to devil fruits specially the one absalom ate lulz
                                  and i'n not sue but i think the seaking they are reffering is the one from pokemon but i'm not sure

                                  :blink:!!!?

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                                  what the shit did u just say

                                  rofl, i second that!!

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                                    there is actually a sbs where Oda explained that you can recognise a DF from the curls they have on them. Oda added that he wonders if Sanji is a DF since his eyebrow is curled so i assume it was meant as a joke.
                                    But yeah you are right the post is really weird besides the curls point…

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                                      can't forget the ancient weapons, surely those will be even more powerful than a kami kami df

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                                        haki haki fruit anyone?

                                        I lol'd.

                                        At the theory: No.

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                                          Zoans are animals, Logias are elements, and Paramecias are anything else.

                                          This. Any Devil Fruit that doesn't turn you into an animal (be it current, ancient, or legendary) or into an element (of sorts) is a paramecia fruit. There is no room for a fourth category since those three already cover all of them. I don't think a type of super fruit is happening either, since what we've gotten in One Piece up to this point are people using their rather limited powers in unique ways to overcome their limits.

                                          So many people in the world. And so many bullets. Lots and lots of bullets.

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                                            I'd wager on a fruit that lets you copy other people's DFs. Maybe not a "one exposure and you've gotten the power forever" but something like "In close proximity or with contact, you can copy someone else's DF power." That'd be interesting.

                                            ![](http://apforums.net/[IMG]file:///E:\My Pics\Anime\One Piece\Avatars\S anTouRyuu.JPG%5B/IMG%5D)![](http://apforums.net/[IMG]file:///E:\My Pics\Anime\One Piece\Avatars\S anTouRyuu.JPG%5B/IMG%5D)

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                                              whitesnake, then.

                                              purple kool-aid is the shit. my shit is gonna be puke.

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                                                Swim swim fruit.

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                                                  kill kill fruit
                                                  it creates a beam which triangulates the soul of the victim and makes their composure explode into polygons
                                                  IT KILLS PEOPLE DAMIEN
                                                  IT KILL PEOPLE
                                                  PEOPLE WHO ARE KILLED GET UP AND KILL!
                                                  THE DEAD GET UP AND KILL THEIR KILL
                                                  KILL KILL IF YOU SAY IT TOO MUCH IT SOUNDS FUNNY
                                                  :getlost:<–--Oh look at dat dood he is angry, why are you so angry fellow?

                                                  purple kool-aid is the shit. my shit is gonna be puke.

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                                                    Smart-smart fruit- The ability to let you stop making dumbass predictions xD

                                                    Seriously, this isn't Naruto. Oda has everything planned. He's not gonna all of a sudden create some overpowered random combination of other things out of nowhere. And Logias are already rare enough (less than 10?)

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                                                      http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=630492&postcount=12

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                                                        @Vanessa:

                                                        http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=630492&postcount=12

                                                        Woaaaaahh woaaaahhhh stop it right now. Woaaah no don't stop it this feeling. HOOOOTTT

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                                                          I don't see why Oda can't just make more outstanding groups of devil fruits like he recently did with the ancient types of zoans. There's also Blackbeard, whose ability is pretty unique for a logia.

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                                                            I don't see why Oda can't just make more outstanding groups of devil fruits like he recently did with the ancient types of zoans. There's also Blackbeard, whose ability is pretty unique for a logia.

                                                            Ancient type zoan is still a zoan DF? I can't see why he will create a new category of DF when he already explained it in sbs etc… That would be bad and against what he already explained.

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                                                              Ancient zoan seems more like a sub group under Zoan type rather than a completely new category.

                                                              Originally Posted by Silence

                                                              And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                I also believe there might be a 4th type. Dragon definitely has one. The 4th type I believe to be a mix of elements. For example, there might be a Storm fruit, which I think Dragon has. The 4th type has to be rarest. After them are the prehistoric zoans.

                                                                In Oda We Trust

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                                                                  Logias already make you god-like. You can't become more god-like lol through means of some 4th on type of DF, that'd be lame it'd destroy of DFs thus far.

                                                                  Only 4th type I'd entertain is paramecia + zoan. That'd be cool imo. Something like a demon demon DF. You turn in to some demon type beast at will and you have some type of special power to boot.

                                                                  Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                                                                    If there was a fourth type of devil fruit, the only reasonable type is a reverse devil fruit a.k.a. a fruit that once a DF user consumes, loses their powers completely and gains their ability to swim again. In other words, a cure for Devil Fruit users. Like how buso renkin's white kakugane is the cure for black kakugane.

                                                                    I mean, it's perfect! In another battle luffy fights in, he gets pinned down and then the enemy or WG force feeds him the reverse DF thus eliminating the power completely and making him "normal", with his swimming ability and all.
                                                                    If a normal human eats the fruit, it's pretty much a useless piece of fruit that tastes bad. Or maybe it can cause them to implode!

                                                                    >PS: Click picture to begin adventure in a hard-boiled manner.

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                                                                      Luffy never could swim anyway.

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                                                                        I really don't see a need for a 4th devil fruit. Cause skilled fighters should be taking that spot unless shown otherwise in the future. Shanks, Rayleigh, and Mihawk already prove that they can kick anyones ass. And the balance would be thrown off if a 4th is added in my opinion.

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                                                                          Futuristic Zoan!

                                                                          The Mech Mech Fruit, take that Kuma.
                                                                          And the Alien Alien Fruit, take that… Kuma.

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                                                                            No, seriously now. If you already got a type C that covers everything that ISN'T A or B, how do you want to introduce D?

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                                                                              Zik you motherfucker you completely stole my idea and put less thought into it to boot. this is common plagiarism and it makes you killable to me KROSS-KILL-KANNON-SHIIIIING.

                                                                              purple kool-aid is the shit. my shit is gonna be puke.

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                                                                                No, seriously now. If you already got a type C that covers everything that ISN'T A or B, how do you want to introduce D?

                                                                                in that case type D mut be a combination of A and B

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                                                                                  haki haki fruit anyone?

                                                                                  A Haki Haki Fruit?!

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                                                                                    in that case type D mut be a combination of A and B

                                                                                    The Rubber Chicken fruit!

                                                                                    Luffy: Gomu Gomu no Pistel!

                                                                                    Enemy: You think that we stop me? Gomu Gomu no BEAK!!!

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                                                                                      Zik you motherfucker you completely stole my idea and put less thought into it to boot. this is common plagiarism and it makes you killable to me KROSS-KILL-KANNON-SHIIIIING.

                                                                                      I didn't read your posts but now that I did, I didn't say anything about stupid mythical beasts or any shit like that.

                                                                                      I'm basically talking about a super power + animal. Not some fucking golden hind, hydras, leviathans or any other made up shit like that.

                                                                                      Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                                                                                        Haki is what Oda offered us instead of something else, such as fourth Devil Fruit.

                                                                                        Captain Karmine / Karmine the Mastermind

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                                                                                          well made-up-shit as you call it happens to be mega-cooler, or don;t you have some "hellspawn" in your picture? at least there'd be some explanation rather than just 'combos for the sake of combo'.

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                                                                                            No, just no.

                                                                                            YES this is a Shonen manga, but Oda is by no means your standard mangaka.
                                                                                            He has stated that Blackbeard has the most powerful devil fruit therefore that is the LAW

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                                                                                              Devil Fruit that eats devil fruits 😄

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                                                                                                No, just no.

                                                                                                YES this is a Shonen manga, but Oda is by no means your standard mangaka.
                                                                                                He has stated that Blackbeard has the most powerful devil fruit therefore that is the LAW

                                                                                                Actually, I don't think that was ever stated, at least not in the manga. It was stated that it was unique even among Logias. There was also something about it having the "true power of the devil" or being "the most evil," but that's not the same thing.

                                                                                                Unless you are refering to something in an SBS question that I don't know about.

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                                                                                                  No, just no.

                                                                                                  YES this is a Shonen manga, but Oda is by no means your standard mangaka.
                                                                                                  He has stated that Blackbeard has the most powerful devil fruit therefore that is the LAW

                                                                                                  I believe the correct phrasing from Blackbeard was that his DF was most the evil of them all. Though this has a certain correlation to power, I don't think it's an exact rule.

                                                                                                  Wait a minute, why is this thread even still here??

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                                                                                                    well made-up-shit as you call it happens to be mega-cooler, or don;t you have some "hellspawn" in your picture? at least there'd be some explanation rather than just 'combos for the sake of combo'.

                                                                                                    What the fuck are you talking about? That shit is whack I like my OP fairy free.

                                                                                                    I don't care for that mythical beast shit. No reason for Oda to do that when there are so many animals to utilize besides even if he did they'd still be zoans since they are still animals.

                                                                                                    Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?

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                                                                                                      Devil Fruit that eats devil fruits 😄

                                                                                                      i may be wrong but wapol ate his brother and gained his poison ability, so although it was in the move maybe this is enough to confirm wapols fruit as matching your description??:wassat:

                                                                                                      anyone want to clarify where we stand on this

                                                                                                      is this void because it was a movie and not manga or can we make the assumption its within the realm of his abilities???

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                                                                                                        Threads like this make me sad because I realize how uncreative most of you are.

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