am I the only one that initially thought "OH NOES ITS ENERU" when Bon chan showed up at the cell to save luffy?
Chapter 536 "Freezing Hell" Discussion
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- there is always Hancock…. Honestly.. if that woman wants to take down Megellan and Hannyable... shouldn't be a problem.. given that both are already in love with her. If she hears of what happened to Luffy... Megellan is finished for sure.
Shes gone off, to meet up with the other God of Pirates, She won't be able to save anyone, at this point.
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I think it'll be a lonnng time before Luffy can punch or stop a logia, or even Magellan's logia-like abilities.
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But luffy really need to use haki NOW!!! since he wont be able to defeat magellan without that…
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Wait Wait Wait!!! Something doesn't make sense to me
If Iva-San is a miracle person and can cure anything, Why the fuck did Gol. Roger die from a sickness? He's the pirate king, he must have been to every island on the grandline or atleast have been to an island where people know/have met Iva-San….
What the???? Wasn't Iva San captured about the time of Gol.D.Roger???
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i think haki is complete control over ones body and energy. i think all of cp9's techniques involve haki in some way.
the different kinds of haki probably means that the more powerful the haki you have the more control you will have over your body and power. for instance luffy might be able to power up his legs and use soru without having to use gear 2nd anymore to speed up. zoro might end up using his haki to heighten his senses and completely master his techniques.
of course since they will be beginners they will probably end up using a lot of energy when using haki. there has to be some sort of drawback to haki use. only until they master their haki will they will be able to use it without wasting unnecessary energy.
also df users might use their haki to enhance their techniques like making their techniques more power then they used to be. kinda like ace being to make his flame hotter. of course other non df users might use their haki to disrupt devil fruit users powers using bursts of energy.
although i think the disruptions will only be temporary and only great fighters will be able to take advantage of them. i don't think you will see haki users being able to punch and kick logia users at will just because they use haki.
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I agree with what Marklar said about the marklar. His marklars are wise and true.
Skipped over all the marklar arguments though, i'm sure marklar will explain it all in due marklar.
Oh and good chapter. Lookin' forward to learning more about the black and white marklar.
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@¡Sanji:
all u need to know is The Pandaman has haki
You're wrong, Pandaman is haki.
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he had a lot of ambition though but he didn't use the ability called ambition. . .
Anyway, I speculate that magellan has gone to the sealed room (toilet) and will be in there for 10 hours or so. Enough time for luffy to do some recovering and eating on lvl 5 and getting to know the secret about the missing prisoners as well and maybe enough time to get some fellow ultra strong prisoners to help in a giant prison riot/break. Magellan might be able to beat Luffy, but could he beat 10 or 20 prisoners with 100 000 000+ bounties? I think he can't. -
Jinbei will be the one to beat Magellan when he is freed, to show how strong he is, perhaps he is a master of haki and he could teach Luffy about it. All pure speculation.
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Jinbei will be the one to beat Magellan when he is freed, to show how strong he is, perhaps he is a master of haki and he could teach Luffy about it. All pure speculation.
Jimbei can aslo show how strong he is in helping WB if luffy and co break out of ID. I hope that luffy learns something from ID and he will need someone to practice this/these new skill(s). Magellan Hannyabal or someone else.
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If Iva-San is a miracle person and can cure anything, Why the fuck did Gol. Roger die from a sickness?
It's Bentham's faith in the fact that Iva can produce miracles. It's not based on anything solid.
If Bentham didn't already mention the fact that Iva is a miracle-worker, THAT would be a DEM.
In other words, wait and see. Iva is to Bentham as Oda is to us, that is to say, he believes in his ability to do something amazing.
Boy, everyone wants answers really fast these days it seems.
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Not really. Luffy managed to defeat Crocodile without any ambition at all.
magellan is not croc…
magellan pwnd luffy easily first time, any idea how luffy could defeat magellan the second time they meet? unless luffy is using some kind of space suit and using mask gas, or make someone else defeat magellan. ex : ace, jinbei. iva, black-white dude?? -
I still don't understand how so many so strong people can be kept in ID without any will to escape. Not all of them are DF users so seastone is not enough to keep them, and Magellan, as dangerous as his DF is, can't match them all !? Jimbei is supposed to be strong enough to fight him, a lot of the prisoners on the lower levels are strong enough to break steel chains and bars, or to break walls and floors, so what ?
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well, before entering the ID, the prisoners usually get to torture first, that should enough to make them weaker,, and prisoner that is really strong is kept at level 4 and below, lv 4 is as hot as hell, being in there will sap all your energy, and level 5 is freezing hell, how u suppose to break the chain and the wall in that kind of freezing hell…
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the end of this chapter with the wolves was the best scene in one piece since the end of shabondy. so heartbreaking. i
bon-chan.truly, gOda's powers are indeed growing:ninja:
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The problem with Magellan is that I am sure that Oda will make a Deux Ex Machina against him, something like Luffy almost dead activating his Haki, avoiding all the attacks from Magellan, putting his eyes completely white with every new hit that he will receive from Luffy.
Something like Nightmare Luffy but this time with Haki.
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Just a quick question: How does ID handle prisoners who use haki??
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magellan is not croc…
magellan pwnd luffy easily first time, any idea how luffy could defeat magellan the second time they meet? unless luffy is using some kind of space suit and using mask gas, or make someone else defeat magellan. ex : ace, jinbei. iva, black-white dude??yes Magellan is not croc. But magellans fruit is strong enough to make luffy think about improvements. if luffy just uses a trick to beat him like he did against croc he wouldn't learn anything. Try to remember what happened since shabondy island. Haki is likely to be the next step. And no I'm not saying that luffy will master it now. But it is time he begins to understand how to use it.
Facts that proves it: you saw how hard it becomes likely to beat the guys crossing his dream? If it continues like that he will die before becoming the PK. What's the point in beating Magellan with a gas mask and a complete body suit etc…? Kuma would still rape luffy, sentomarou will still be able to rape. He needs to improve in order to be able to fight this guys. right now he is pwned so hard by them...I still don't understand how so many so strong people can be kept in ID without any will to escape. Not all of them are DF users so seastone is not enough to keep them, and Magellan, as dangerous as his DF is, can't match them all !? Jimbei is supposed to be strong enough to fight him, a lot of the prisoners on the lower levels are strong enough to break steel chains and bars, or to break walls and floors, so what ?
Why can't magellan match them all? We know nothing from the break out attempts of the prisoners in the past. How many they were, how powerful etc… And you can't expect them to be at 100% of their capacity in the cells.
The problem with Magellan is that I am sure that Oda will make a Deux Ex Machina against him, something like Luffy almost dead activating his Haki, avoiding all the attacks from Magellan, putting his eyes completely white with every new hit that he will receive from Luffy.
Something like Nightmare Luffy but this time with Haki.
If you are so sure about it (though i'm wondering ho you find out what Oda ideas for the haki explanation are) then you might stop reading right now since it will be lame.
Just a quick question: How does ID handle prisoners who use haki??
Who knows if there are prisoners with haki in ID? And if they are in bad shape how do you expect them to use haki? The handcuffs are really hard. The beasts are constantly beating them and the levels are like hell.
I don't understand why people are mixing speculations about haki with facts…
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magellan is not croc…
magellan pwnd luffy easily first time, any idea how luffy could defeat magellan the second time they meet? unless luffy is using some kind of space suit and using mask gas, or make someone else defeat magellan. ex : ace, jinbei. iva, black-white dude??The point I made and which still stands is that appertly Ambition is not the only solution to defeat an oppenent who is superior.
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The point I made and which still stands is that appertly Ambition is not the only solution to defeat an oppenent who is superior.
Thank you for that post.
What would probably makes luffy the PK is mastering haki + his brute strength which seems so huge that it impresses the amazons.
But the story will be good if luffy master haki while having adventures in the new world.People need to stop thinking that luffy understood how to fully use it. He is now not even aware that he has that ability.
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So are you people suggesting the WG does not even know Haki exists? I'm sure Ace uses haki… I noticed that when Hancock told Ace about his brother.. Jimbei, who is beside Ace was not able "hear" what Hancock is saying? The only explanation I can see is that Hancock used haki in conversing with Ace.. Otherwise, Jimbei wouldn't have a problem hearing what Hancock told..
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Uh, she could have said it very quietly…?
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So are you people suggesting the WG does not even know Haki exists? I'm sure Ace uses haki… I noticed that when Hancock told Ace about his brother.. Jimbei, who is beside Ace was not able "hear" what Hancock is saying? The only explanation I can see is that Hancock used haki in conversing with Ace.. Otherwise, Jimbei wouldn't have a problem hearing what Hancock told..
Thats a bit far fetched. Jinbei is not that close to Ace that he couldn't have a private conversation.
And I'm sure WG knows about haki. Remember, at the Auction House, after Rayleigh used his burst he told the SH he won't use it again because the Marines could add 1 and 1 and his identity would be revealed to them. This also tells us that an "ambition" of that size is quite rare given the fact that Rayleigh was worried that the Marines would easyly identify it's source.
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I'd bet anything that the person on the last page is an Okama even if he/she isn't Iva-san.
http://onemanga.com/One_Piece/536/19/
I think that the black half of him represents the male and the white half represents the female. I say this because of the position either half of his body is in (especially the hands)
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i think haki is complete control over ones body and energy. i think all of cp9's techniques involve haki in some way.
the different kinds of haki probably means that the more powerful the haki you have the more control you will have over your body and power. for instance luffy might be able to power up his legs and use soru without having to use gear 2nd anymore to speed up. zoro might end up using his haki to heighten his senses and completely master his techniques.
of course since they will be beginners they will probably end up using a lot of energy when using haki. there has to be some sort of drawback to haki use. only until they master their haki will they will be able to use it without wasting unnecessary energy.
also df users might use their haki to enhance their techniques like making their techniques more power then they used to be. kinda like ace being to make his flame hotter. of course other non df users might use their haki to disrupt devil fruit users powers using bursts of energy.
although i think the disruptions will only be temporary and only great fighters will be able to take advantage of them. i don't think you will see haki users being able to punch and kick logia users at will just because they use haki.
IMO everyone is thinking haki way too difficult.. i thought haki is just "burst of spirit or will power" (?) it doesnt have to be some super ability though i dont like zoro or at least sanji learning it
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For better or worse, I doubt that the whole crew won't learn how to use haki to some extent.
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IMO everyone is thinking haki way too difficult.. i thought haki is just "burst of spirit or will power" (?) it doesnt have to be some super ability though i dont like zoro or at least sanji learning it
without haki how will these two cope without devil fruits or seastones
brute strength can only go so far
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without haki how will these two cope without devil fruits or seastones
brute strength can only go so far
Maes Hughes
Maybe
but the way even the weaklings on the amazon island could use haki i doubt that oda would show that then not make everyone use haki for a little boost of power at leastExactly. In fact, Zoro has probably been using a form of haki since Arabasta. Sanji's Diable Jamble (sp?) might have a bit of haki to it was well, though that's questionable. It might be worded weird, but what I meant by that was that the whole crew will probably end up using haki to some extent. I apologize if I wasn't clear.
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yes Magellan is not croc. But magellans fruit is strong enough to make luffy think about improvements. if luffy just uses a trick to beat him like he did against croc he wouldn't learn anything. Try to remember what happened since shabondy island. Haki is the next step. And no I'm not saying that luffy will master it now. But it is time he begins to understand how to use it.
Facts that proves it: you saw how hard it becomes likely to beat the guys crossing his dream? If it continues like that he will die before becoming the PK. What's the point in beating Magellan with a gas mask and a complete body suit etc…? Kuma would still rape luffy, sentomarou will still be able to rape. He needs to improve in order to be able to fight this guys. right now he is pwned so hard by them...I never said anything about luffy should master haki to defeat magellan, what I mean is luffy should learn haki, but not mastering it, so he could use his new ability to defeat magellan. coz the current luffy wont stand a chance against magellan.
and yes it has no point to defeat magellan if luffy use same kind of suit or gas mask…@ivotas
yes I agree haki is not the only solution to defeat magellan, there is still some way to do it like just I said, using some kind of suit or thing like that... or luffy could just use a sword to stab magellan...or some kind of tool so he didnt have to touch magellan to defeat him...
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Well haki can be embedded to arrows (proven thus far); it's only logical to think that haki can be embedded to swords or weapons (still not proven yet but it's pointing at that direction), and if that's possible I'm sure Luffy can can embed haki to his hands (sort of like Gon from HunterxHunter) make them stronger and protect them :happy:
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But magellans fruit is strong enough to make luffy think about improvements.
OK, I don't see how people could follow the story this long yet not realize the pattern with theme-based users here.
Any Devil Fruit that follows a theme has a weakness associated with it. So "improvement" is not a factor, it's just a matter of swapping strategies.
Magellan is the same as any other theme users in the past, like Croc or Ener. Like in those cases, Luffy didn't try anything new after seeing Magellan's power, he simply used his old techniques and fighting formula.
THIS IS A NECESSARY LUFFY FLAW. Luffy isn't the kind of character to be intimidated by reputation or condemnation, he has to see strength to understand how he measures up. Simply telling him "you'll be like an ant in a hurricane" isn't good enough. You could consider it naiivety, determination or perhaps a tad of arrogance - whatever the case, Luffy didn't treat Magellan any differently from the other grunts in ID, and that was why he lost.
@Maes:
Exactly. In fact, Zoro has probably been using a form of haki since Arabasta. Sanji's Diable Jamble (sp?) might have a bit of haki to it was well, though that's questionable. It might be worded weird, but what I meant by that was that the whole crew will probably end up using haki to some extent. I apologize if I wasn't clear.
I sort of wish Diable Jambe was Ambition-based, because that would have been a better explanation than "FOOT ON FIRE = 4X DAMAGE AGAINST WOLVES".
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If you are so sure about it (though i'm wondering ho you find out what Oda ideas for the haki explanation are) then you might stop reading right now since it will be lame.
I am not saying that the history will be lame.
We have seen the word "miracle" a few times in this arc, first from Jimbei and in the last chapter from Bentham/Bon Kurei and a miracle isn´t Luffy learning to use Haki and kicking Magellan ass like Goku did against Piccolo after Karin healed him.
A miracle is something unexpected in a situation that cannot go more worse than it is and changes the direction of the events, something like Nightmare Luffy but more emotional, I believe that Oda accelerated Thriller Bark with the "Nightmare Luffy" card and a lot of ideas from it were scrapped for being used in a later arc like this.
This is only my point of view nothing more than this.
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well, before entering the ID, the prisoners usually get to torture first, that should enough to make them weaker,, and prisoner that is really strong is kept at level 4 and below, lv 4 is as hot as hell, being in there will sap all your energy, and level 5 is freezing hell, how u suppose to break the chain and the wall in that kind of freezing hell…
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned in these past few threads is Buggy. Anyone remember those theories that Buggy would come back more powerful then every, possibility having either an epic fight with Luffy or some other powerful warrior?
It's funny how, after all this time, the story has made it painfully obvious that Buggy hasn't gotten stronger at all, in fact, none of these guys have gotten stronger. Mr. 2 is looking tough, but this is probably the level he was at in Alabasta. Buggy's gone as far partnering himself with Mr. 3, who is an immense weakling. In the end, Mr. 2 seems to be vastly stronger then Buggy, having beaten Hannibal who beat him and Mr. 3 combined–and even Mr. 2 isn't that tough in the grand scheme of things. These things only exasperate the difference in strength between Buggy and Luffy, or even the other members of his crew. Shockingly, it seems Buggy is still the level of a "first boss" for this series.
I'm genuinely surprised, and curious about Buggy's future. After all this time people have waiting for him to show up, after all the big names Buggy's big shown to know, is this the last arc for him? I can't see how Buggy's could still chase Luffy after this. Even if he has the ability to be sneaky and plot surprise attacks like in Lougetown, in the end his crew is still so overpowered that they still wouldn't be that big a threat. Again, Buggy remains a mystery thanks to his seemingly crippling weakness and curious knowledge of the world and important people in it. I'm looking forward to this character's fate.
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^I think this will be the last arc for him. Oda, will somehow find a way to make him stronger (I hope.) Who, Capt Johns treasures might be the answer..
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I suspect it has something to do with Evil is Dumb, since when they were working together to take done Minotauros, he was actually, dare I say it, fairly competent. I expect when Mr. 3 and Buggy eventually redeem themselves and fight for real with the good guys later on in the arc, they actually won't do too badly for themselves. We'll see what happens with 'em.
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euhm. . . It was never ever comfirmed that mr.2 defeated Hannyabal and he probably didn't. Mr.2 might still be quite weak but he shows a lot of heart and willpower, being willing to go through all of that for a friend and has only managed to do the things he has done because of this probably. Buggy has shown he is still weak BUT he has greatly improved the Muggy ball and might get a new strong nakama out of Impel Down. I think Buggy wasn't after Luffy at all, I think he was really looking after captain John's treasure and that he might play a role in the future. Maybe not even with his old crew who seem to now sail under Alvida's flag. . . (can Buggy forgive this after seeing Luffy doing these things for his brother?)
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned in these past few threads is Buggy. Anyone remember those theories that Buggy would come back more powerful then every, possibility having either an epic fight with Luffy or some other powerful warrior?
It's funny how, after all this time, the story has made it painfully obvious that Buggy hasn't gotten stronger at all, in fact, none of these guys have gotten stronger. Mr. 2 is looking tough, but this is probably the level he was at in Alabasta. Buggy's gone as far partnering himself with Mr. 3, who is an immense weakling. In the end, Mr. 2 seems to be vastly stronger then Buggy, having beaten Hannibal who beat him and Mr. 3 combined–and even Mr. 2 isn't that tough in the grand scheme of things. These things only exasperate the difference in strength between Buggy and Luffy, or even the other members of his crew. Shockingly, it seems Buggy is still the level of a "first boss" for this series.
There's a difference between top 1% and top .00001%, I reckon.
Remember, just because Bon and the other Baroque Works guys were introduced earlier in the series does not mean they were weak in the grand scheme of things. It's not uncommon for characters in shounen to take on the most powerful characters in the series early on - sometimes winning, sometimes losing. In YGO Kaiba was the best duelist in the world, and Yugi beat him in the first episode. In YYH Yusuke took on the Saint Beasts immediately after his Genkai training, and the Saint Beasts were considered legendary strong in that world. In DB Goku beat that King Chappa (?) guy in an elimination round like he was nothing and he was a former WMA Tournament champion.
Just because Bon isn't in the top .00001% of fighters doesn't mean he's not strong. This is a problem in shounen where once people get to that top 1%, it's a logarithmic grind to top .1, .01, .001% etc.
I for one thing that Buggy has never shown his real strength before and won't have to undergo some kind of "training".
I mean for crying out loud…he was a member of the Roger Pirates and fought Whitebeard's men at one point. Even if Buggy : Roger :: Usopp :: Luffy, Usopp is still far stronger than your 'average top-tier GL pirate' and considering how far Roger is at this point above Luffy, Buggy is really strong.
Why he couldn't beat Hannibal is something we'll find out later in the series. I think Oda didn't intend in the very beginning for Buggy to be a Roger Pirate but after confirming him as one he likely has a good explanation for why Buggy doesn't seem equal to Shanks in strength.
It could be something latent, like "Buggy has the power of a GL-class pirate, but hasn't used it properly because he hasn't found a cause worth risking his life for".
(editor's note: Crossword linked to basically the same idea)
Personally I think he has Royal Ambition like Luffy...
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euhm. . . It was never ever comfirmed that mr.2 defeated Hannyabal and he probably didn't. Mr.2 might still be quite weak but he shows a lot of heart and willpower, being willing to go through all of that for a friend and has only managed to do the things he has done because of this probably. Buggy has shown he is still weak BUT he has greatly improved the Muggy ball and might get a new strong nakama out of Impel Down. I think Buggy wasn't after Luffy at all, I think he was really looking after captain John's treasure and that he might play a role in the future. Maybe not even with his old crew who seem to now sail under Alvida's flag. . . (can Buggy forgive this after seeing Luffy doing these things for his brother?)
No…there really isn't another way for Mr. 2 to have gained Hannibal's clothes and touched his face without beating him.
Even if Hanibal wants to betray Magellan, why let himself both be naked and impersonated? Either act makes him look bad. It goes against what little we know about him.
I for one thing that Buggy has never shown his real strength before and won't have to undergo some kind of "training".
Never shown his true strength? Why? He's been faced with one life threatening challenge after another, so why hold back? Statements like this feel more like a type of denial then speculation.
Sadly, even with the knowledge that he was on Gold Roger's crew, there's no reason to doubt that he was soundly beaten, while being helped by Mr. 3, by the second in command of Impel Down. I believe it was even mentioned that Buggy used his "Muggy Balls," which are one of his top weapons now. My point earlier stands, he far weaker then say, Luffy, and as strong as he was back in East Blue. It seems that Oda's actually gone out of the way to display Buggy's level of strength, and it's still pretty low. "Low," being weaker then Mr. 2. And regardless of this top 1% thing you're talking about, that's still too weak for the challenges that lie ahead.
But yes…I'm hoping some kind of surprise, perhaps haki, is in store for him. Yet, at the same time with the whole "past vs. future" possible theme this arc is having, it's also very possible that this arc will end Buggy's part of the story somehow. This arc is a "do or die" time for Buggy's character.
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No…there really isn't another way for Mr. 2 to have gained Hannibal's clothes and touched his face without beating him.
I thought his ability allows him to copy the clothes too.. Though I never really saw him do that before..
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No…there really isn't another way for Mr. 2 to have gained Hannibal's clothes and touched his face without beating him.
Even if Hanibal wants to betray Magellan, why let himself both be naked and impersonated? Either act makes him look bad. It goes against when little we know about him.
He was half naked to begin with, and its not like Hanibal can't find another change of cloths. Why wouldn't Hanibal want Mr 2 to impersonate himself to archive his goals, all while making the Warden look bad, so Hanibal can gain his seat?
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Bon Clay can't copy clothes, thats why he took Usopps goggles right?
Buggy is only super weak compared to Shanks because Shanks has obviously spent a great deal more time in the GL fighting stronger opponents.
As for the striength of the Boroque members, they were stronger then Eneru's Priests, Moria's Pirates(except maybe Ryuma) and Bentham nearly took down Sanji when Jabura had a much more difficult time with him. I only say this because of the way the fights played out, and how the straw hats reacted to their opponents.
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Never shown his true strength? Why? He's been faced with one life threatening challenge after another, so why hold back? Statements like this feel more like a type of denial then speculation.
We can only speculate on why Buggy seems weaker than how strong he should be. Maybe he used to make his Buggy Balls out of a certain powder only found in the New World and his Muggy Balls are an intermediate step toward that.
Remember, they're in Impel Down, the world's most impenetrable/inescapable prison and Buggy GOT OUT. Even if he wasn't in the bottom level, escape from that still says a lot about a 15M berry pirate from East Blue, the weakest of the blue seas.
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I think the only reason he actually got out is because he is fodder and quite unknown. They just didn't know he had a devil fruit and it is only because of is DF he got out. If they had known he had a DF he would have been a lvl or 2 lower and he would have never ever gotten away. . .
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@LongFist:
Bon Clay can't copy clothes, thats why he took Usopps goggles right?
Buggy is only super weak compared to Shanks because Shanks has obviously spent a great deal more time in the GL fighting stronger opponents.
As for the striength of the Boroque members, they were stronger then Eneru's Priests, Moria's Pirates(except maybe Ryuma) and Bentham nearly took down Sanji when Jabura had a much more difficult time with him. I only say this because of the way the fights played out, and how the straw hats reacted to their opponents.
One moment, take into consideration that Sanji was weaker back then and even though he became stronger he still had trouble with Jabura. Mr.1 was never that strong, he had an incredible devil fruit whilelist Ryuma was equal to Zoro, one who survived Kumas babtisim.
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I think the only reason he actually got out is because he is fodder and quite unknown. They just didn't know he had a devil fruit and it is only because of is DF he got out. If they had known he had a DF he would have been a lvl or 2 lower and he would have never ever gotten away. . .
Buggy has a 15M bounty which is not a very small one, so the marine should have his profile. If the ID staff don't know his DF ability we have to say their work is really very sloppy.
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Yeah, I wouldn't underestimate the usefulness of Buggy and Mr. 3. If Luffy, Mr.2, Mr. 3 and Buggy had fought Megellan together in an area where Mr. 3's wax did not melt, they probably would have beaten Megellan. Just a guess, given that Mr. 3 could have given Luffy wax hammers to shiled his fists and perhaps even his foot for kicks + Buggy just throwing muggy balls around + Mr. 2 could throw in some punches/kicks of his own using Mr. 3's wax to coat his fists and legs as well.
Mr. 3 and Buggy are resourceful and still dangersou foes, I just think Hannayable is incredibley strong. Just get the vibe that Hannayable is equal to Megellan in strength or pretty darn close. If he's ambitious enough to want to take over, he must consider himself powerful enough.
We'll see what happens
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Buggy has a 15M bounty which is not a very small one, so the marine should have his profile. If the ID staff don't know his DF ability we have to say their work is really very sloppy.
They are quite busy at the moment and buggy might have not been recognized because he wasn't with his crew or something. He might have just attacked some marines.
Anyway, it is strange only Buggy was captured and that they didn't know he was a DF user. I mean, they didn't know otherwise he would have had kairouseki handcuffs for sure. The guards even asked when he escaped "is he a devil fruit user?" when word got out he escaped his cage. . .
Maybe they knew buggy but didn't consider him to be a real thread and they perhaps didn't have enough info about him…
