just wondering about Zoro's Sword Slash (Phoenix Slash?) which he used to defeat Ohm and destroyed his Iron CLoud Sword… is this technique developed after he mastered Shishisonson thereby is it possible to cut metal with this technique?
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good question, i'm not sure if anybody knows the answer to this. i guess we'll just have to wait to find out.
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Considering Zoro can cut steel at will, it's only logical to assume his pound cannon attacks can, too. Especially since they're supposed to be his most powerful techniques so far.
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And I'd say so because Iron cloud seemed to as strong as regular iron.
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zoro cut haccis swords before he knew how to cut iron and i think ohms sword had the same strenght as haccis which means he dont needed the technique to cut iron.
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I think Zoro just BROKE Hatchi's swords, rather than cutting them, through sheer, absolute force.
If he could cut steel, then one would raise the question of why he struggled against Mr. 1. The answer: Either Oda made himself a fine little plothole, or something else happened with Hatchi's swords instead of cutting them.
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Originally posted by GoAnderson@Jun 14 2005, 06:01 PM
**I think Zoro just BROKE Hatchi's swords, rather than cutting them, through sheer, absolute force.If he could cut steel, then one would raise the question of why he struggled against Mr. 1. The answer: Either Oda made himself a fine little plothole, or something else happened with Hatchi's swords instead of cutting them.
[snapback]70018[/snapback]**If I remember correctly, in the manga Zoro broke Hathi's swords, saying something about his three swords being heavier than the six swords, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think Hatchi broke his own swords.
He's swinging like a madman, and probably has those swords going pretty fast. All Zoro has to do is drop down swords-first, and hold on, and when Hatchi's blades hit the sudden obstruction of Zoro's, their own inertia will probably damage them pretty badly.
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Well, you thought this a lot, didn't you Bounty1berry?
I have to agree with you!
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Originally posted by GoAnderson@Jun 15 2005, 09:01 AM
**I think Zoro just BROKE Hatchi's swords, rather than cutting them, through sheer, absolute force.If he could cut steel, then one would raise the question of why he struggled against Mr. 1. The answer: Either Oda made himself a fine little plothole, or something else happened with Hatchi's swords instead of cutting them.
[snapback]70018[/snapback]**hmm… i have a tough that some sword have a better quality than the other there fore when some one broke their oppone sword it doesn't mean he can cut through steel. just like when zolo fight with mihwak, 2 of his sword is break into 2 but the sword from his teacher didn't. therefroe i think every sword have different quality and material.
and with mr.1 his whole body is made up with steel from the devil fruit therefore it might be possible the steel is harder than the steel that anyone have make
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it looks like zoro cut them.
and with mr.1 his whole body is made up with steel from the devil fruit therefore it might be possible the steel is harder than the steel that anyone have make
i think you are right, most swords arent made of pure iron.zoro should be able to cut these without knowing how to cut iron.
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Actually, that pic makes it look like they just broke. See how rigid and cracked the shards are?
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I think Zoro's pure strength broke them like he did with his old swords.
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wow, quite a number of replies
well, probably depends on the quality of the sword to cut other swords, not just only technique i think. Tht's why zoro 'broke' Hatchi's swords with those sabres. oh, come to think of it, sabre and sword techniques are different….
it's looks like Zoro was able to sense the Iron Cloud Sword (plus it's on the other side of the wall too) , then unleash his magnificent slash... -
(correct me if im wrong) but i remember Zoro cutting the chains in the dragon/apis arc (granted it wasnt at will cause he had to concentrare to pull it off)
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I think chains are usually made of iron (but I'm not sure), but there's a plothole in that arc that many people pointed out when Zoro said something like "There is nothing that my blade can't cut." But the Apis arc was mostly Toei's invention so I don't think that really counts at all.
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"Nothing that my blade can't cut" might just be a bluff on his part. But Zoro isn't Usopp, so yeah, probably a plothole.
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If i remember correctly wasn't Zoro not able to cut steel during the Mr.1 fight?
Then as the fight progressed Zoro was able to cut steel. I think he said something like "if i can't cut through steel i won't be able to be the best" and so he did cut through Mr.1. -
i think the difference was technique, he broke hatchi's swords through sheer brute force, but that wasn't an option with Mr.1 because Mr.1's body was thicker than and likely tougher than zoro's swords, so he had to come up with a technique that didn't require brute strength to cut throught Mr.1.
see the moment just before zoro defeated Mr.1, he waved his sword with no effort at all at a boulder and it split in half with ease, while he waved it at the palm leaf and it wasn't cut at all. the technique zoro came up with enabled him to cut things through his mental will and not with his physical strength.
at least that's how i interpreted it.^^
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there's a plothole in that arc that many people pointed out when Zoro said something like "There is nothing that my blade can't cut."
I don't think a brag counts as a plothole..
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Originally posted by darth_mark@Jun 20 2005, 08:20 PM
**see the moment just before zoro defeated Mr.1, he waved his sword with no effort at all at a boulder and it split in half with ease, while he waved it at the palm leaf and it wasn't cut at all. the technique zoro came up with enabled him to cut things through his mental will and not with his physical strength.at least that's how i interpreted it.^^
[snapback]73410[/snapback]**Me too- he cuts whatever thing he wants to cut. Still, this raises the question of why he couldn't cut off Lucci's arm, but perhaps this technique fails when the "things" nature changes - Lucci hardened his arm by increasing muscle density (at least thats what I think he did).
