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    • RuNa
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      http://www.variety.com/VR1117998829.html

      Then there is comeback kid Mickey Rourke, who is poised to follow his Golden Globe-winning performance in "The Wrestler" with an offer to play the main villain in "Iron Man 2" — but at a lowball opening offer of $250,000 from Marvel; Marvel’s tactics have already prompted Samuel L. Jackson to swear off playing Nick Fury because of a similarly low offer.

      The is plain stupid. They made the role for him and SPECIFICALLY used the Ultimate version of Fury for the movie.

      Here's what should have happened. Marvel should have created a contract with Jackson BEFORE putting him in Ironman. This way, he was GUARANTEED for the Avengers movie. This is screwing everything up now. If they weren't going to pony up the money, they should have went with the 616 Fury.

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        What the fuck. This is all kinds of gay.

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          WTF i expected this from FOX but not from Marvel but i do understand. In reality i think thats about what movie stars should make but since its not reality i understand.

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            so mickey rourke will take a lowball offer for one comic book movie.. but will bitch and whine about playing Marv in Sin City 2? fuck that

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              Further proof that Hollywood stars take on roles for the love of the story, their fans and it has absolutely nothing to do with the millions and millions of dollars.

              No matter where you go, there you are.

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                Like Samuel L. Jackson really needs to be in any more movies.

                buttcheeks

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                  Fucking hell… Marvel does nothing but piss me off nowadays.

                  この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。

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                    Geez… WHAT? I mean, this entire version of Fury was specifically taylor-made FOR Sam Jackson.

                    ... What a disappointment.

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                      Apparently Sammy needs more money.

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                      Like Samuel L. Jackson really needs to be in any more movies.

                      As much as I agree with this I was actually looking forward to seeing him play Fury. 😞

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                        Here's why Jackson or at least those negotiating on his behalf are being unfair.

                        IT'S THE AVENGERS MOVIE.

                        I know shit about The Avengers. But I do know they are going to have at LEAST two leading men in Hollywood in the film. Norton and Jr. each coming fresh off their VERY successful solo vehicles? Then add to that Thor and possibly Captain America? We're not talking X-Men where they took relative unknowns and slapped them together, they're taking big names from the start in a single film. That's crazy. Jackson or those negotiating on his behalf should be open for that fact alone.

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                          Norton may not do it for similar reasons, Marvel destroyed his artistic freedom in the Hulk film apparently and now they are refusing to pay him the big money for Avengers.

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                            @Refii:

                            Norton may not do it for similar reasons, Marvel destroyed his artistic freedom in the Hulk film apparently and now they are refusing to pay him the big money for Avengers.

                            … Wait, whaaat?

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                              Norton may not do it for similar reasons, Marvel destroyed his artistic freedom in the Hulk film apparently and now they are refusing to pay him the big money for Avengers.

                              I'm a fan of Norton but let's just say I'm glad they destroyed whatever his artistic freedom would have led to. I wouldn't have changed a thing about that film, it was DAMN good.

                              No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                I know it might not be a big amont of money by Hollywood stantards but $250,000 is a p-r-e-t-t-y good salary for a job. They should hire me, I would do it for like 1000 bucks.

                                Mickey Rourke was Marv?

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                                  How ironic, the one role everyone expects for him to play, and he won't do it. Go fig.

                                  Get nuts or go crazy trying.

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                                    Hmmm maybe it's a good thing i never seen the very end of Ironman.

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                                      I hate movie stars. I can almost guarantee that Jackson made more money in his two second post-credit cameo in Iron Man than I did in the past two years.

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                                        I know it might not be a big amont of money by Hollywood stantards but $250,000 is a p-r-e-t-t-y good salary for a job. They should hire me, I would do it for like 1000 bucks.

                                        Mickey Rourke was Marv?

                                        i hear that. I make absolute shit at BOTH of my jobs…

                                        yup Rourke was Marv. Did a good fucking job too!

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                                          I'm a fan of Norton but let's just say I'm glad they destroyed whatever his artistic freedom would have led to. I wouldn't have changed a thing about that film, it was DAMN good.

                                          Hmm…I'm not quite sure you understand the situation.

                                          What you saw in the film was Norton's modified script. He took the original script and completely rewrote it (and didn't get any credit for it at all).

                                          If you have the Blueray or DVD, you'll see they cut out the entire opening of the movie. This was because they wanted to get to Banner's Hulk form as quickly as possible.

                                          Wiki explains it better (and it was on the news before the movie came out)

                                          Zak Penn, who wrote a draft of the first film in 1996, said the film would follow up Hulk, but stressed it would be more tonally similar to the TV show and Bruce Jones' run on the comic. He compared his script to Aliens, which was a very different film to Alien, but still in the same continuity.[9] He included two scenes from his 1996 script: Banner jumping from a helicopter to trigger a transformation, and realizing he is unable to have sex with Betty.[37] Penn wrote three drafts, before departing in early 2007 to direct The Grand. Norton, who had rewritten previous films he starred in, wrote a new draft, which pleased the director and the studio in establishing the film as a reboot.[38] Leterrier acknowledged the only remaining similarity between the two films was Bruce hiding in South America,[5] and that the film was a unique reboot, as generally audiences would have expected another forty minute origin story.[39] There were previous discussions to set the first act in Thailand.[40] Leterrier felt audiences were left restless waiting for the character to arrive in Ang Lee's film.[39] Gale Anne Hurd noted fans dubbed the film a "requel", a portmanteau of reboot and sequel.[41]
                                          Norton explained of his decision to ignore Lee's origin story, "I don't even like the phrase origin story, and I don't think in great literature and great films that explaining the roots of the story doesn't mean it comes in the beginning."[8] "Audiences know this story," he added, "[so] deal with it artfully." He wanted to "have revelations even in the third act about what set this whole thing in motion".[3] The new origin story references Ultimate Marvel's take on the Hulk, which also had him created in an attempt to create supersoldiers.[42] Norton deleted Rick Jones and toned down S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence.[15] He also added the scene where Banner attempts to extract a cure from a flower and his e-mailing with Samuel Sterns,[37] which references Bruce Jones' story.[43] Norton rewrote scenes every day.[17] Ultimately, the Writers Guild of America decided to credit the script solely to Penn,[44] who argued Norton had not dramatically changed his script. Journalist Anne Thompson explained "The Guild tends to favor plot, structure and pre-existing characters over dialogue." Before either Penn and Norton joined the project, an anonymous screenwriter wrote a draft and lobbied for credit.[37]

                                          In regards to movie editing:

                                          Seventy minutes of footage, mostly dealing with the origin, were not included in the final cut.[26] Much of this back-story was unscripted and the filmmakers were never sure of including it into the final cut, and had considered releasing some of these clips on the internet.[13] Editor Kyle Cooper, creator of the Marvel logo (with the flipping pages) and the montage detailing Iron Man's biography in that film, edited together much of this footage into the opening credits.[13] Leterrier explained a negative test screening, where flashbacks were placed across the film that the audience found too similar to Hulk, had resulted in compressing these to the film's start.[26] This replaced the original opening, where Banner comes to the Arctic to commit suicide. Leterrier said he did not want this scene to be lost amid the opening montage.[26]
                                          Norton and Leterrier disputed with the producers over the final running time: they wanted it to be near 135 minutes, while the producers wanted the film to be under two hours. This was made public, and rumors spread that Norton "made it clear he won't cooperate with publicity plans if he's not happy with the final product".[63] Norton dismissed this, "Our healthy process [of collaboration], which is and should be a private matter, was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute', seized on by people looking for a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks distracting from the film itself, which Marvel, Universal and I refuse to let happen. It has always been my firm conviction that films should speak for themselves and that knowing too much about how they are made diminishes the magic of watching them."[64]

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                                            I hate movie stars. I can almost guarantee that Jackson made more money in his two second post-credit cameo in Iron Man than I did in the past two years.

                                            Come on it''s not as bad as turning down 21 Million dollars
                                            (14 million over three years) because you got kids to feed, like a professional athlete did not too long ago.

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                                              WTF, first Terrence Howard gets replaced by Don Cheadle, and now THIS??

                                              BUY UNCUT ONE PIECE DVDs!!!

                                              M. Night Shyamalan deserves a sound ass-whooping for his crimes against fans of Avatar: The Last Airbender!

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                                                I for one am Glad to see Samuel L. Jackson is gone

                                                @Greg:

                                                I'm a fan of Norton but let's just say I'm glad they destroyed whatever his artistic freedom would have led to. I wouldn't have changed a thing about that film, it was DAMN good.

                                                …................(insert epic facepalm here)
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                                                You should be a bigger fan of Nortons now.

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                                                  So was Jackson going to have an actual part in the avengers movie or just another cameo? If its the latter a quarter of a million is more than enough. Other than that props to Jim Carey for being willing to take a risk on a movie he belived in, glad it payed off for him.

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                                                    So was Jackson going to have an actual part in the avengers movie or just another cameo? If its the latter a quarter of a million is more than enough. Other than that props to Jim Carey for being willing to take a risk on a movie he belived in, glad it payed off for him.

                                                    A full role.

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                                                      14 X 3 = 42. . .

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                                                        The pay scale Marvel offers is pretty messed up. Witness Iron Man; the highest paid actor in that film wasn't Robert Downey, Gwenyth Paltrow, nor even Jeff Bridges, but Terrance Howard, who was paid almost twice as much as Downey if I recall correctly.

                                                        Of course, they tried to cut his pay for the sequel to a quarter of what he made for the first film, which is why he was replaced by Don Cheadle, but that's neither here nor there.

                                                        Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                          it is funny how you guys are blaming the actors. Jackson takes cheap roles but this is different. The producers and the studio are going to make alot of money similair to iron man. It is only fair to pay the actors according to the projected box office.

                                                          its ok for the studio people to make all the money but no if the actor wants their "fair share" people go crazy and call them babies. Funny.

                                                          yeah im here

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                                                            Seventy minutes of footage, mostly dealing with the origin, were not included in the final cut.

                                                            While that's a shame, I actually enjoyed the opening and how they dealt with it. Now, I'm not saying I DON'T want 70 extra minutes of film, BUT I really REALLY liked the pace of the film and the direction of the scenes in South America. Everything felt right. Plus Norton seems pretty cool about the whole thing.

                                                            …................(insert epic facepalm here)

                                                            Facepalm yourself. From that information he wrote it, but THEY edited it. I think anything longer than that would have dragged it down. I love the final product. And again, that's not to say I don't WANT the extra footage on a blu-ray or some shit, but as a film experience, I like what they presented.

                                                            Come on it''s not as bad as turning down 21 Million dollars
                                                            (14 million over three years)

                                                            Yeah but that's 3 years right? A movie is like what? 3 months? If that?

                                                            I don't wanna blame Jackson because it could be a move those representing him made but if he had any say in it, it's just stupid.

                                                            Getting a bunch of high-paid actors together, regardless of how much a film is, and if they aren't contracted in, is a pipe dream…..unless the word 'ocean' is in the film title.

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                                                            OH FUCK! BERNIE'S DEAD!!!!! FUUUUCK!!!!!!!

                                                            No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                              Last I herd, Marvel and Jackson were still in negotiations. After the L.A. Times article, I don't think it has been confirmed that Jackson is out of the movie. Some people think Jackson did the interview with the Times to get more leverage for a higher paycheck.

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                                                                @Greg:

                                                                Yeah but that's 3 years right? A movie is like what? 3 months? If that?

                                                                I fucked up the math it was 7 million over 3 years not 14 Million.

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                                                                  Some people think Jackson did the interview with the Times to get more leverage for a higher paycheck.

                                                                  Can't say I blame him if he did.

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                                                                    Reading movie news it sounds like Marvel is semi-fucked at the moment with a major lawsuit. Couldn't have come at a worse time 'eh?

                                                                    No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                                        I hate movie stars. I can almost guarantee that Jackson made more money in his two second post-credit cameo in Iron Man than I did in the past two years.

                                                                        Wonder how much he got for his roles in those 3-4 episodes of Boondocks?

                                                                        Marvel needs to fix this shit up fast.

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                                                                          Although He'd be great for this role why not as another possible choice use Will Smith. I always wanted to see him portray a Marvel or DC Comic hero.

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                                                                            Although He'd be great for this role why not as another possible choice use Will Smith. I always wanted to see him portray a Marvel or DC Comic hero.

                                                                            What the fuck. No, Will Smith would not be a good replacement for Samuel L Smith.

                                                                            @Marvel:

                                                                            "Hey, we need a new Nick Fury since Sammy's being a douche."
                                                                            "Get Will Smith. He's black."
                                                                            "But he doesn't even look like Nick Fury and I don't think he could play the badass authoritarian role"
                                                                            "Yeah, but he's black"

                                                                            lol no.

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                                                                              Not to mention that that it wouldnt be any cheaper for them. since to match Smiths pay rate theyd have to add two zeros to that figure.

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                                                                                @Zkaiser:

                                                                                What the fuck. No, Will Smith would not be a good replacement for Samuel L Smith.

                                                                                lol no.

                                                                                So your'e an anit Will Smith person eh? Well I don't think Nick Fury should be droppin all those f bombs and all and if I remember anyway Nick Fury is white.

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                                                                                  Hey, that's great news! Now the place is open for David Hasselhoff to reprise his role as Nick Fury, Whoo!!! 😁

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                                                                                    @Ldearing88:

                                                                                    So your'e an anit Will Smith person eh? Well I don't think Nick Fury should be droppin all those f bombs and all and if I remember anyway Nick Fury is white.

                                                                                    Will Smith is one of the best actors in Hollywood. I'm just saying that he shouldn't be casted just as Fury just because he's black, which I'm sure is what you were thinking.

                                                                                    And Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe.

                                                                                    I've heard it's bliss, is it really?

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                                                                                      @Zkaiser:

                                                                                      Will Smith is one of the best actors in Hollywood. I'm just saying that he shouldn't be casted just as Fury just because he's black, which I'm sure is what you were thinking.

                                                                                      And Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe.

                                                                                      I've heard it's bliss, is it really?

                                                                                      I didn't say that I said Will Smith cause I wanna see him in an actual superhero movie oh and the I thought it was Gabriel not Nick Fury. There's a guy named Gabriel who's below Nick Fury and he's black not Nick Fury.

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                                                                                        So not only are they replacing War Machine, they'll be replacing Nick Fury now. Damnit I just hope and pray that they will be keeping Edward Norton… please don't tell me they've already recast the Hulk!!!!

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                                                                                          @Zkaiser:

                                                                                          And Nick Fury is black in the Ultimate Universe.

                                                                                          Not just that, Nick Fury is SAM MOTHAFUCKIN JACKSON in the Ultimate Universe.

                                                                                          They specifically asked to use his likeness, and he's written more as a Sam Jackson character than as a Nick Fury character to boot.

                                                                                          Seeing as how Marvel decided to use the Ultimate incarnation of the character, there's only one logical choice who to cast. -_-;;

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                                                                                            Actors are too damn greedy, is what it amounts too. The real people that should be getting paid well are the directors, the lighting specialists, etc. Honestly, how hard is it to memorize your lines and strike a few dramatic poses? Compared to arranging the set, hiring dancers, make-up artists, making sure that the pyrotechnics and other special effects are safe, etc., acting is absolute cake. My brother has been in the business for 14 years now and his job is far more stressful and far more busy than any actor's job, by far. He just shot two movies in a row as First-Assistant Director, with the same producers, but with different casts, different sets, different everything. That's a crapload of work. Let's see an actor pull all that off.

                                                                                            I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                              So not only are they replacing War Machine, they'll be replacing Nick Fury now. Damnit I just hope and pray that they will be keeping Edward Norton… please don't tell me they've already recast the Hulk!!!!

                                                                                              As far as I know Edward Norton is still playing Bruce Banner/The Hulk. I think he was a better Hulk then the other movie they made I hated the older one.

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                                                                                                  Oh, and I thought it was Gabriel not Nick Fury. There's a guy named Gabriel who's below Nick Fury and he's black not Nick Fury.

                                                                                                  Where the hell did you get Gabriel from. Where was that implied anywhere?

                                                                                                  Yeah, Will Smith can play this guy.

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                                                                                                    Where the hell did you get Gabriel from. Where was that implied anywhere?

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                                                                                                    He is mentioned in the Incredible Hulk animated series. His name is Gabriel Jones. Look it up if ya don't believe me. By the way ultimate Nick Fury modeled after Samuel L. Jackson is so much more awesome than the other version of him with graying hair. He was even awesome as Mace Wind
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                                                                                                      My question meant "Why did you bring him(Gabriel) up?"

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                                                                                                        My question meant "Why did you bring him(Gabriel) up?"

                                                                                                        Cause I like to talk. Oh and I never really meant that I think Will Smith would be better for the part. Obviously I'd rather have Sameul L. Jackson play the part I was just saying in a what if he gets the boot scenario since that is what this thread is about. I figured if he wasn't gonna play that part anymore then what other black actor wouldn't screw that part up? But we won't have to worry about that since from what I read just now he's still playing that part.

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