Sorry if I had to make 2 threads in very early time
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To you, personally, what anime/maga rivals the great Anime/manga of ONE PIECE.
Please dont base it on the ratings...Okay!
For me, I reallly consider NAruto as OP's rival...
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Originally posted by Aycee@Jun 12 2005, 09:44 AM
**Sorry if I had to make 2 threads in very early time[snapback]68337[/snapback]**
No one really cares as long as they are stupid or redundant like Eneru vs. Pikachu
The only manga I consider as good as One Piece is Monster, but for completely different reasons. One Piece is just wacky good fun, while Monster is very serious, but also the best story I've ever heard on any platform.
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You could say Naruto is a great rival to OP in many aspects. Many people are adicted to it too. Both of them are also in JUMP!!!
OP vs Naruto…WHich is the Better ANime/Manga
Criteria
-Art
-Animation
-Story
-Characters
-No. of episodes (???)
-Audience Impact (how many fans)okay forget about the criteria stuff.
But u do think naruto is like a rival to OP....wellanyway both are nice!
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I guess Naruto is a direct rival to OP but mostly just on the fandom level.
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On my personal level, I think Fullmetal Alchemist and Bleach will rival OP in terms of storyline etc.
But on the fandom basis, it has to be Naruto since from what I have seen (among my friends), those who reads/watch Naruto/One Piece don't watch the other and they think the other is not good. Similarly, I have seen a lot of OP and Naruto comparison.
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Do you mean anime-wise? If so it's not even a contest. OP crushes Naruto in ratings.
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In terms of what I like equal/better to/than One Piece? Ruroken is the one thing that comes to mind for "better," perhaps. Bleach is slightly below One Piece, but mostly equal.
In terms of fandom? Naruto is apparently eons above OP in popularity in the States.
In terms of ratings? From what I remember of the ratings I'd seen in that other thread, One Piece is winning pretty handily against Naruto. A bunch of other stuff still blows it completely off the field, like Sazae-san and Doraemon.
In terms of what's better than One Piece in actuality? No one can tell acutely, because everyone has his or her own opinion.
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If you base it on the timing of the anime in Japan, One Piece (being aired on Sunday at prime time) definitely beats Naruto which airs on Thursdays (or one of the weekdays) I think.
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I think Naruto airs at 7:30 on Thursdays, but anyway I think the rival of One Piece would be Naruto and now Bleach since now their like the Big three of Jump now.
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^^Nah, it's Wednesday nights, or has the schedule changed recently?
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I don't really think anyother Shonen comes close. Both Naruto and Bleach have been or turned into major disspointments.
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I think it really depends on what criteria you're using to call it a "rival". You could do it by Japanese viewers or readers, by American viewers or readers, or by size of fandoms, and get different answers for each. (For example, One Piece blows Naruto away in the Japanese ratings, but if you compare the amount of Naruto fans at an American anime convention to the One Piece ones…Naruto blows One Piece away. At least from what I've seen about each, I have no official statistics in front of me.) And then there's personal opinion, which is going to be different for everyone, since everybody has different tastes.
For me personally, One Piece is a manga/anime that is on a level all of its own, and therefore is not rivaled by anything.
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If anybody calls Bleach One Piece's rival I shall kill them. >_>
I'd hafta say Naruto, though. Definately. It's the classic ninja vs. pirate!
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I would have to consider Naruto as an equal.. I love 'em both..
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Naruto is definitely One Piece's direct rival. I think Shaman King used to be, but then the show ended and it kind of declined.
Unfortunately, way more people in the 'States like Naruto. Some of my closest friends just don't have the attention span for the greatness of OP. However, I think if, overall, you took every fan of OP and compared that number to every fan of Naruto, Naruto would be crushed.
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I think Naruto is OP's big rival. There aways seem to be such a big debate over it.
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First of all, you gotta ask yourself: Is OP a mainstream anime? Maybe it is, but to be honest I never pictured OP in the same "money-making trash" league as Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, Shaman King, Beyblade or Digimon. I always saw OP as a anime with great artistic value and a huge potential to become something that other similar shows failed to be. And by these "similar shows" I mean Dragonball. Let's face it: Dragonball was great, but DBZ and DBGT ruined everything Toriyama built in the original. I just hope Oda doesn't make a mistake like that. If he manages to keep the constant level of creativity as he does now, we could easily place OP in the same league as Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Nadia, The Vision of Escaflowne, The Rose of Versailles, etc.
As for Naruto… I can't say if he's a rival or not, simply because I didn't have a chance to see it. And to be honest, I'm not really interested. -
I would encouagre reading Naruto….but just stop after Vol.16. It declines into oblivion.
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i think it's naruto me and my friend always argue which is better Naruto is just boring to me
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Originally posted by Zephos@Jun 13 2005, 01:44 PM
I don't really think anyother Shonen comes close. Both Naruto and Bleach have been or turned into major disspointments.
I mean really….Bleach is just endless simialer battles with an exscuse for a plot.
[snapback]69120[/snapback]except for the conspiracy…better plot then naruto ever had...
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Naruto is good, but it just lacks the finer qualities of One Piece. Basically the OP characters just seem more in-depth and dynamic.
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Hmmmm ….. although Naruto and Bleach are obviously big time OP definitely does better then them in ratings and such. I don't have stats or anything, but I kind of see HxH as a good rival to OP.
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I always considered Naruto to be OP's counterpart. Probably because of the Pirate vs. Ninja thing.
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A lot of things come in here. I'll just go with popularity.
Anime-wise, I say Detective Conan in Japan, since it's always a bit ahead of OP in ratings. For the States, I dunno….Beyblade?
Manga wise over there, I have no clue. I'm not too sure what the biggest hits are, and how well known any of them are in comparision. Over here, Naruto, though it's not much of a contest, since OP never places in the top graphic novel charts.
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Originally posted by Seta Ginny@Jun 13 2005, 01:02 PM
**I think it really depends on what criteria you're using to call it a "rival". You could do it by Japanese viewers or readers, by American viewers or readers, or by size of fandoms, and get different answers for each. (For example, One Piece blows Naruto away in the Japanese ratings, but if you compare the amount of Naruto fans at an American anime convention to the One Piece ones…Naruto blows One Piece away. At least from what I've seen about each, I have no official statistics in front of me.) And then there's personal opinion, which is going to be different for everyone, since everybody has different tastes.For me personally, One Piece is a manga/anime that is on a level all of its own, and therefore is not rivaled by anything.
[snapback]69137[/snapback]**Sadly 4KIDS isn't helping matters. Especially since a Funimation directed Naruto dub on the way. Needless to say, if the Naruto dub does good. You can kiss any chance of OP getting any good regonition in the states. But I digress, OP was always for those who love it for what it is rather then just for the action.
Oh and rival wise, to me, I say currently Naruto or Fullmetal Alcalmist.
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Naruto just doesn't cut it for me, though. True, sometimes it can be funny, but most of the time it's just boring. I really find it annoying that these ninjas are still using tactics they learned in elementary school - what ever happened to change?
Also, the 'touching' moments in Naruto just make me want to go in another room and puke. The touching moments of OP really make me want to cry because they're really emotional.
Retro is definitely right, though. 4Kids is going to be the death of OP. If they do indeed bring Grand Battle: Rush over here with OP in the state it is currently, I'd have to say that OP is going to get its ass handed to it. Poor Oda, dethroned by a crappy dub company…
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I don't think 4kids will be the death of One Piece in the states. It still has a very strong following. The One Piece crowd at Otakon last year was nothing to shake a stick at.
I think Naruto is just something that's a bit more universal. It follows an art style, story pattern, and fighting pattern that are comparable to other favorite anime, so American anime fans have something that appeals to them right from the start. One Piece's art style is very unique, and doesn't always appeal to everyone right away. The story can be extremely silly, particularly in the beginning, and takes a bit to get into the drama. Plus, the fights are unique, and can at times also look silly or strange. For many people, these are obstacles to overcome before getting into the series. Because many people are lazy…it doesn't always happen. And therefore, you have less fans.
Granted, 4Kids hasn't helped the situation. However, we have many members on this board who have gotten into it from the 4Kids version, and then researched until they found the real one. We're still getting fans! Personally, it doesn't bother me if we don't have the 234787089795656756446 fans Naruto has.
 
