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    • brennen.exe
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      @Zkaiser: It's Vanessa tactics…

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        Ah…Good ole Kidany.

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          Uh, I'm really not interested in arguing over this, but the Shichibukai are near the top of the foodchain, which is why they were chosen, so that the Government would have their guns pointed at their enemies rather than themselves, as was explicitly the case with Hancock. And I think we all agreed a few pages back that Robin joining was an anomaly, so we can't really rely on her as a standard.

          Standard or not it's an element of the OP story that even such a person can join the Strawhats.

          I understand your point but what you seem to forget is that the Shichibukai lost a lot of the myth flair that they had years ago. This obviously because almost half of them have fallen to Luffy (Crocodile and Moria through a fight, Hancock through emotion). Of course Kuma just has proven that a Shichibukai can still be the uber shiznit and rape the crew all by themselves. But still the point stands that their are not as untouchable as back then when Yosaku introduced them to the reader.

          The point is, that Luffy is now is a big time rookie who has practically defeated three Shichibukai, declared war on the World Government and punched a Tenryubito straight to the face. He's is a notorious pirate enough to have a Shichibukai join his ranks. Not a guy like Kuma or Mihawk since those guys are still far above his level. But for a Shichibukai of his level it should be no problem. And let's face it, it's untouble flair of Jinbei which would place him top of the foodchain also isn't that strong as it was back in the day because of the simple fact that he could be sent to Impel Down to cool his head off. I'm not saying that I consider him a weakling but the flair of superiority with him doesn't work for me anymore.

          And the reason why I'd actually like a male Shichibukai to join the would be because I'd then have it a bit easier to accept this entire Hancock mess because so far she's the only Shichibukai who's fallen to Luffy of other reasons because of a fight. Ok, Mihawk and Kuma also befriended with the Strawhats but that was rather an adult-children relation because of their superiority. Hancock was at no point superior to Luffy and befriended with him because they are more or less on equal grounds. So I'd like a male Shichibukai to do exactly the same thing, otherwise I'd find it pretty disappointing if only the woman would follow that route because it would be boring, uncreative, generic romantic crap.

          I'm not saying "Jinbei 4 Crewmate". But I must admit that the idea has quite some charm to it. More then having guys like Pauly, Cindry, Pelona, Margaret or Hancock join.

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          Well eventhough I stated before I'm anything but sold on Sentomaru as new crewmate Brennen's post about Jinbei inspired me to write a little something about why Sentomaru strikes me as a "that dude's more then we've seen so far" vibe as it was the case with Robin (not that I ever saw her joining though). And before I start him being ugly is a) a subjective matter and b) wouldn't be anything new considering guys like Franky or Usopp (as far as his nose is concerned). So now for tidbits that give me that just discribed impression.

          • First would be the title of chapter 511 which would be "Sentomaru with Battle Axe". Of course I'm aware that Moria, Kuma and Hancock also had their names for chapter titles while Brook didn't but still I rather find it unusual for somebody who actually didn't nothing special like him.
          • He has a character gimmick with constantly spilling the beans though saying that his mouth is not easy to open.
          • Him saying that he doesn't have anything pirates in general albeit being from the Marine HQ. I mean ok, you don't have to hate them to do your job, but this statement sounds almost like an excuse. What for? He simply is doing his job and nobody would hold that against him.
          • The best guard in the world statement. The second I heard that I was like "yeah, I'd like to see how well your guard will do against the likes of Whitebeard". What I say, I have no doubts that he has a good guard, but to me it literally screams to be broken by a big gun. I mean if Luffy would break the guard now halfway down the story it wouldn't strike as such a good guard at all. But if somebody from the top of the foodchain would succeed doing so it would be a different matter.
          • Him being one of the three guys (together with Borsalino and Kuma) the Strawhats can't defeat now. I mean for Borsalino and Kuma it's pretty evident that they couldn't defeat them even if they would be topfit, but even though Sentomaru has this best guard somehow he just seems a bit out of place here. I mean, I know that the now statement was because the Strawhats were pretty exhausted, so perhaps they could do better against him alone if they were fit. But still he appears rather like a big gun himself instead of an subordinate.
          • Last but not least, his unique physique. As I said before, for stilistic reasons in group shots etc. I'd like if half of Luffy's crew would have unique physics and the other half similar physiques. In comparison to Chopper, Franky and Brook who each have very unique physique Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji and Robin are pretty similar. So Sentomaru would be one more on the way to balance it out.

          Well that's it actually. Note that I don't consider these arguments for his joining but just some elements that give me the discribed "there's more to this guy" impression. And in this he doesn't strike me like an opponent that must be defeated, so my only guess (since I'm really not that creative with other possibilities) is that he might join the Strawhats.

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            @Ivotas:

            Luffy is now is a big time rookie who has practically defeated three Shichibukai, declared war on the World Government and punched a Tenryubito straight to the face. He's is a notorious pirate enough to have a Shichibukai join his ranks.

            It reminds me of when Zoro joined:

            Zoro: I'll be a pirate… I PROMISE!! If I'm gonna battle with these guys, I might as well go into full villain mode anyways. But you need to understand, I've got aspirations!!! I'M GOING TO BE THE WORLD'S GREATEST SWORDSMAN!!!! I don't have to bother with the "purity" of my name!! Whether hero or villain, everyone in the entire world is gonna know my name!!! You invited me to join!! If anything happens that causes me to give up my goals. You have to disembowel yourself in apology!!!

            Luffy: Nice, the world's greatest swordsman!! A true Pirate King wouldn't settle for anything less!!!@Ivotas:

            Him being ugly is a) a subjective matter and b) wouldn't be anything new considering guys like Franky or Usopp.

            You have to understand that I said no more ugly or uncool people. Oh, and it was a joke =P@Ivotas:

            Reasons and such and other things and stuff and Sentoumaru.

            Another thing to add – which, I don't see him as a contender, but someone we will see again – is that his Chapter title "Sentoumaru and his Axe" put a focus on who and what he is, but in the following chapter he says, "I don't even need to use the axe." So, yeah. I think we will definitely see him again when Luffy is up to par, and at that point in time he will use his axe. But as I said, I see him more as an enemy than anything else simply because the loyalty and pride he showed towards his position and the WG. Not to mention his suspicions towards Kuma for getting in the way.

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              @brennen.exe:

              You have to understand that I said no more ugly or uncool people. Oh, and it was a joke =P

              NOOOOOO, you were not joking, because I say so!!! 😜

              Btw, does that mean you consider Franky or Usopp uncool?

              …But as I said, I see him more as an enemy than anything else simply because the loyalty and pride he showed towards his position and the WG. Not to mention his suspicions towards Kuma for getting in the way.

              Just one thing in advance. Right now I'm not arguing that he will join but simply his overal status as a character in the story. That said, I think otherwise then you because of his loyality (I didn't see him display any sort of pride towards his position so far). He confronts the Strawhats but not because of the loyality in his position. If that was the case then he wouldn't have to justify his move considering that he is a Marine officer. Everybody understands that this is his job.

              I have no facts to prove that but the personal impression I get from him is that his loyality is rather based on the person Vegapunk himself. He is his bodyguard and thus I don't see why he shouldn't get along pretty well with him. So rather then being pissed at the Strawhats because they are pirates I consider him rather to be pissed at them because they destroy Vegapunks precious creations. The same counts for his suspicions towards Kuma, whom he might consider a traitor to Vegapunk at that point.

              As I said, it's nothing I can prove, the little we've seen from him just give me the impression that he's that kind of guy.

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                Baroque agents for Sh crew :< too bad it's like impossible to happen

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                  Badass rebel chick, has been fighting the WG for years.. her dream is to cripple them because of all their tyranny and BS.. loves to kick ass and take names.
                  Personality.. she's more impetuous than luffy leading to a great comic foil.. hardcore and takes no bullshit.. suicidegirl type from the new world..
                  Knows how it works in the NW and all the who's who.
                  Possible crew position.. heavy weapons expert, new world guide/lieutenant, stratagist, etc
                  Fighting style.. rushes in and hits hard with any and all weapons available.. don't know about a specialty maybe firearms because there really isn't a firearms expert on the crew. maybe a lance or something.

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                    cool pic, is that of an existing anime?
                    I like the rebel chick idea actually allthough you are pobably joking and you have a point here. I don't think the SH's need to have all their crew on the grand line. I think it would be a great asset if they found there last or last 2 nakama in the new world. They could be some kind of guide and would probably be quite strong. That is what the strawhats really need. They can't go around supporting more Ussop's (I'm not a hater but he is just weak)
                    But really, what's that pic from?

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                      Most likely it's Tank Girl.

                      Google it.

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                        It's Tank Girl. I based the character off her.
                        She's a character from a self titled post apocalyptic western comic.
                        I think someone like that would really flesh out the crew.. I could see her getting along with everyone more or less.

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                          Ahhh Hivemind! Also, Boxxy!
                          Now that you bring it up.. I'm thinkin' she'd be like "Boxxy nuts".. yes, awesome.

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                            Seeing as each SH can relate to a specific group of ppl I could see a rebel chick for nakama. It'd fit well introducing the revolutionaries and more of the corrupt/evil things the WG has done.

                            Could spin it so that her idol is Dragon and she just happens to be on his son's pirate crew.

                            LOL if she's more impetuous than Luffy it's pretty comical that she also is a good strategist. Like coming up with great tactical plans disguised in what ppl think is just a person being too headstrong.

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                              Cock wont join,. she is going to die from love

                              I am still holding out for Yokozuna the Frog

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                                Personally I'm rooting for Jinbei
                                Straw hat crew has a number of devil fruit user so I think someone who specialize in water battle is needed. The other reason I'm rooting for him is because I'm still hoping that Wiper would come back and join the crew.(I read somewhere in the forum an old character would come back to join, hopefully it's true)

                                Jinbei= Water battle
                                Wiper= Sky battle

                                I think they would really fit in the Crew

                                but hey It's just a theory

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                                  One main problem I have when ppl bring up any mermaid/mermen/fishmen/fishwoman for nakama they always limit themselves to the basics of what we know about them. That's not how Oda works, just generic nakama joining the crew cuz of what they are being what they would provide to the crew. Fish and mer- folk's natural abilities are already a given and wouldn't be as much of a factor.

                                  If Oda's does bring in a fish- or mer- person it won't just be for the swimming underwater stuff. Most likely they'd have a completely unrelated skill to them being a fish/mer- person or if it is related only they would be able to do it.

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                                    I don't quite get that, could you possibly elaborate, because:

                                    Sanji comes from a restaurant, thus he excels at cooking.
                                    Robin comes from a library island, thus is very knowledgeable about the world.
                                    Franky comes from an island of shipwrights, thus he excels at craftsmanship.

                                    So it would only make sense that…

                                    Fishmen are an aquatic species and their island is underwater, thus...etc.

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                                      Ahhh Hivemind! Also, Boxxy!
                                      I'm thinkin' she'd be like "Boxxy nuts".. yes, awesome.

                                      Awesome in that I could never stand the series for more than 15 seconds at a time again.

                                      That is to say, completely awesome.

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                                        I wanna know why everyone keeps thinking Jinbei will join the strawhats. Is there any evidence to predict that being possible?

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                                          No, there isn't.

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                                            @Zkaiser:

                                            No, there isn't.

                                            Then why do so many people think it's a possibility? I mean he doesn't even associate with them at all. That's like saying I think Shanks will join Luffy's crew. I mean seriously why would someone like Shanks wanna join Luffy's crew when he already has his own crew? Even if Jinbei was freinds with Luffy he's probably to proud to ever join someone else's crew especially the Straw hat crew.

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                                              Nah, Oda's gonna surprise us all by giving us Masira's uncle for crewmate: A gorrilla with strong spiritual power, skilled in seeking advice from the spirits. A baboon hero, an astral ape, a monkey monk.

                                              No I'm not serious. Hopefully, neither is Oda.

                                              I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                                I repeat all. It's going to be a cool old lady. Probably from a species that can still look hot as they get older. Giants, fish people, etc. As for the role…something that's needed for the New World.

                                                So, mark my words. Old lady who kicks butt and owns a level of strength above Usopp and below Sanji. Or, like Robin, technically stronger due to a special ability that he can't beat, but Sanji's still stronger physically and fights the stronger enemies.

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                                                  I like the theories on Jinbei, Brennen. I'm looking at that as a possibility.

                                                  (However, I still have some hopes on Hatchan, hopes that won't come true of course.)

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                                                    I don't quite get that, could you possibly elaborate, because:

                                                    Sanji comes from a restaurant, thus he excels at cooking.
                                                    Robin comes from a library island, thus is very knowledgeable about the world.
                                                    Franky comes from an island of shipwrights, thus he excels at craftsmanship.

                                                    So it would only make sense that…

                                                    Fishmen are an aquatic species and their island is underwater, thus...etc.

                                                    With those examples it has to do with where they come from not their species. It shouldn't be assumed that because fish/mer ppl live underwater they can only specialize in an aquatic or underwater skill or only have talents dealing with what they're naturally born with it.

                                                    Basically I feel the possibilities ppl are suggesting for mer/fish ppl are being pigeonholed and/or stereotyped to one area like say if you need another guy to win a basketball game so you choose the black guy cuz he's black assuming he must be great at it…........:ninja:

                                                    The crew can easily get a whacky fishman who doesn't enjoy swimming lol; add a sad past for why then there's your nakama or a mermaid who's a scientist, fascinated with how things work on dry land since well things are different underwater overall and will finally get her chance to go on land and discover that world...... you get my point.........

                                                    Nah, Oda's gonna surprise us all by giving us Masira's uncle for crewmate: A gorrilla with strong spiritual power, skilled in seeking advice from the spirits. A baboon hero, an astral ape, a monkey monk.

                                                    Speaking of them were they humans or did Oda let us know they just happen to be talking simians? or is this a case of human/primate crossbreeding?

                                                    I repeat all. It's going to be a cool old lady. Probably from a species that can still look hot as they get older. Giants, fish people, etc. As for the role…something that's needed for the New World.

                                                    LOL you're going hard for this one, it's not that bad now that I really think about it but I wouldn't bank on your family theory.

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                                                      @Ldearing88:

                                                      I wanna know why everyone keeps thinking Jinbei will join the strawhats. Is there any evidence to predict that being possible?

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                                                      No, there isn't.

                                                      There isn't any evidence, per se. There are a few facts we know about him that give us a basic knowledge of who he is. There are also a few conclusions – logical ones -- that can be derived from said facts; albeit theory and nothing that can be proven directly. Then there is speculation that can be made on top of that. Now, I have yet to find any holes in my theory that lead me to believe that it isn't at least worth speculating, but at the same time I have said from the beginning that it is complete speculation. I don't think he will join and I don't even want him to join at the moment; WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HIM YET. I simply put some facts together into a theory I thought was worth voicing. If you are still wondering WHY some people (me) think he might join, then perhaps you should actually read the theory: LINK.

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                                                      It shouldn't be assumed that because fish/mer ppl live underwater they can only specialize in an aquatic or underwater skill or only have talents dealing with what they're naturally born with it. Like say if you need another guy to win a basketball game so you choose the black guy cuz he's black assuming he must be great at it.

                                                      I don't think that is what people are saying, and that example isn't exactly right. Black people aren't born into an environment of basketballs, where playing basketball is the same as walking or talking. A fishman, born to live underwater but capable of living outside of water is. Now, sure, it isn't impossible to suggest that there might be a fishman who hates the water, but that would be…strange, to say the least. All -- well, at least the few I have seen -- they have been suggesting is that a fishman would be capable of having a battle in the water. Which he would, and as we learned from Arlong Park – more specifically, Kuroobi – he would be at an advantage fighting in or underwater. Naturally, that is.

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                                                        there might be a fishman who hates the water, but that would be…strange, to say the least.

                                                        …and the SHs are not?

                                                        Also I never said "hate" and my example was just that not an actual suggestion for a fishman nakama. Even if it was in that hypothetical situation that fish person not liking the water would still be able to go in and fight in the water if that's something you're hung up on. Plus, in the context of a nakama it'd be done in a comedic way…..

                                                        People seem to be harping on the natural skills a fish or mer person is born with and that's not special or unique given that others of their species can do it. There's no reason for Oda to hold a nakama of that species just to that. You seem to get my overall point, or atleast you should. I don't need to say much more on the matter......

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                                                          brennen,

                                                          I'm not sure if Oda is ready to put another old-age bruiser in the crew. Not to mention I'm not gonna say SHIT about Hancock but I think the next will be a woman. The testosterone on-board is enough to split Adam wood and it needs some balance. My only doubt regarding this is what effect it would have on Sanji and having him fall head-over-heels over a third person, while entertaining, is predictable and that is the antithesis of Oda's creative direction.

                                                          Having said that, yes, the evidence for Jinbei being a crew member from a known pattern is good. He's someone Oda planned from the start, he has a complex tie to characters past, present and no doubt future and he would make a great addition as the much-needed Fishman/woman crew member that I'd LOVE the crew to get.

                                                          But if he turns out to be a 'good' person, in my mind's eyes I think the odds of him perishing during the arc for the sake of others is better than him tagging along. Either that or restoring something missing to Fishman Island as a leader figure.

                                                          All I can say is, I like your reasoning and evidence. It makes a strong case.

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                                                            @Zik:

                                                            With those examples it has to do with where they come from not their species. It shouldn't be assumed that because fish/mer ppl live underwater they can only specialize in an aquatic or underwater skill or only have talents dealing with what they're naturally born with it.

                                                            Basically I feel the possibilities ppl are suggesting for mer/fish ppl are being pigeonholed and/or stereotyped to one area like say if you need another guy to win a basketball game so you choose the black guy cuz he's black assuming he must be great at it…........:ninja:

                                                            I understand where you're coming from but that argument is rather to be blamed on the lack of creativity for the people who suggest that a fishman will join rather then a fishmen lacking non-stereotype skills to be a worthy adition.

                                                            I mean, just because he's a fishman it doesn't mean that he'll be generic. He most surely will have some extraordinary skill that proves him or her to be a worthy addition to the Strawhat crew. I mean, Sanji and Franky (to only name two) are not special because they're humans but because the one is a great cook the other a great Shipwright. Chopper is not just an extraordinary good addition (albeit for comedic purposes Luffy said otherwise) because he's half-reindeer but because he's a good doctor. So whatever a fishman Strawhat might do, he'll be able to do more then just be a fishman.

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                                                            Btw, I still think that we'll get a monkeyman (Hamburg, Masira, Shojo) to join the. My main reason for that is that Oda included Masira and Shojo on the one calendar where only the big players of their respective arcs were featured. Both were at no point in the same league as anybody else on the drawing yet Oda considered them significant enough to be on that. Is that foreshadowing for a Monkey Island? If yes, then I'm sure we'll get a new crewmate there.

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                                                              All I can say is, I like your reasoning and evidence. It makes a strong case.

                                                              Cool, thanks. Yeah, as I have stated I don't really "want" Jinbei to join, I just saw the few points we know and coupled them with what is going on. If we had seen Jinbei, and I liked his character and design, I would probably be going nuts about this. Since we know next to nothing though, I simply voiced the theory for speculation since I had been thinking about it for a while and had been stitching more and more information to it. While I hope a crazy theory of mine comes to be true, I am still not sold on it myself. In any case, Oda tends to turn our worlds upside down, so who knows what will happen.

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                                                                I don't believe that Jinbei is gonna join, he is gonna be a person who helps out for a moment that then becomes the enemy at Fishman island. Didn't Fisher Tiger die? I believe that Jinbei couldnt stand Fisher Tigers stance towards humans and killed him. I believe that Jinbei has a deep hatred towards humans. But he hates the tenryuubito the most ofcourse. Thats why he will help out luffy just this once in Impel Down.

                                                                I still believe that Hancock has the highest chance of joining, as of now introduced characters that is. Either she or noone for quite a while.

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                                                                  The testosterone on-board is enough to split Adam wood and it needs some balance.

                                                                  LOL why is this so funny to me….....

                                                                  My only doubt regarding this is what effect it would have on Sanji and having him fall head-over-heels over a third person, while entertaining, is predictable and that is the antithesis of Oda's creative direction.

                                                                  Oda can get around that, could switch it up and make Sanji not go crazy over the next girl or do it another way…..
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                                                                  I understand where you're coming from but that argument is rather to be blamed on the lack of creativity for the people who suggest that a fishman will join rather then a fishmen lacking non-stereotype skills to be a worthy adition.

                                                                  I mean, just because he's a fishman it doesn't mean that he'll be generic. He most surely will have some extraordinary skill that proves him or her to be a worthy addition to the Strawhat crew. I mean, Sanji and Franky (to only name two) are not special because they're humans but because the one is a great cook the other a great Shipwright. Chopper is not just an extraordinary good addition (albeit for comedic purposes Luffy said otherwise) because he's half-reindeer but because he's a good doctor. So whatever a fishman Strawhat might do, he'll be able to do more then just be a fishman.

                                                                  Exactly what I'm saying.

                                                                  Btw, I still think that we'll get a monkeyman (Hamburg, Masira, Shojo) to join the. My main reason for that is that Oda included Masira and Shojo on the one calendar where only the big players of their respective arcs were featured. Both were at no point in the same league as anybody else on the drawing yet Oda considered them significant enough to be on that. Is that foreshadowing for a Monkey Island? If yes, then I'm sure we'll get a new crewmate there.

                                                                  I asked before but are they humans or has it been made clear they are monkeymen? The two we sa did just look like variant Donkey Kongs tho lol

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                                                                    I asked before but are they humans or has it been made clear they are monkeymen?

                                                                    I'm pretty sure at one point Luffy called Masira a gorilla and he said something like: ''I'm not a monkey, I'm a human!'' I don't have time to look up the exact line, but I'm pretty sure it was during the beginning of Jaya.

                                                                    …Uh, what can I add to this discussion? Yeah, lots of testosterone flying around. Heh, I recall a bullet list I made back during the bloody Amazonian War of Fall 2008 that included something like ''One day, the entire fandom (or at least a chunk of it), collectively arose and decided that the Straw Hats needed another female crewmember.''

                                                                    Well, it would've be nice if we somehow got those last two crewmembers before they got into the New World, but I just don't see that happening anymore unless Oda pulls a storytelling U-turn on us.

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                                                                      Exactly what I'm saying.

                                                                      Oh, must have misunderstood it then. Well case closed then.^^

                                                                      I asked before but are they humans or has it been made clear they are monkeymen? The two we sa did just look like variant Donkey Kongs tho lol

                                                                      Well, Shojo actually even says directly that he's a human. You can check that in chapter 226 (page 199 if you want to find it quick). The thing is though, that I can't shake of the impression that he says that because he wants to be considered a human while he actually is not. But that's just an impression of mine.

                                                                      Masira on the other hand seems to be making a big deal out of being considered an ape respectively monkey. He does not clearly state though that he's an ape. But still he's practically the opposite to Shojo on that field. So it's still somewhat vague to me. I mean, there's always the possibility of mixed races (half-human, half-monkeyman) that could be a reason for that vagueness. The interesting thing is though that with Hamburg from Foxy's crew, characters that look like this aren't reduced to be a one time only thing. So I'd really not rule the possibility out of there being such a thing which I'd call ape- or monkeymen. Perhaps this is even the minkmen refered to on the price list for different races here.

                                                                      All I'm saying is that with One Piece being a pirate manga and Monkey Island being a famous pirate game, it'd be a bit careless to not consider that characters like Masira, Shojo and Hamburg stand for more then we've seen so far. There must be a reason why Oda had Masira and Shojo on that calendar.

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                                                                        brennen,

                                                                        I'm not sure if Oda is ready to put another old-age bruiser in the crew. Not to mention I'm not gonna say SHIT about Hancock but I think the next will be a woman. The testosterone on-board is enough to split Adam wood and it needs some balance. My only doubt regarding this is what effect it would have on Sanji and having him fall head-over-heels over a third person, while entertaining, is predictable and that is the antithesis of Oda's creative direction.

                                                                        Having said that, yes, the evidence for Jinbei being a crew member from a known pattern is good. He's someone Oda planned from the start, he has a complex tie to characters past, present and no doubt future and he would make a great addition as the much-needed Fishman/woman crew member that I'd LOVE the crew to get.

                                                                        But if he turns out to be a 'good' person, in my mind's eyes I think the odds of him perishing during the arc for the sake of others is better than him tagging along. Either that or restoring something missing to Fishman Island as a leader figure.

                                                                        All I can say is, I like your reasoning and evidence. It makes a strong case.

                                                                        If Jimbei will perish I ll be surprised, no actually amazed….

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                                                                          Oda can get around that, could switch it up and make Sanji not go crazy over the next girl or do it another way…..

                                                                          Yes, that's what I'm thinking, and since Sanji goes after anything without facial hair, there'd have to be a good reason.

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                                                                            I think someone suggested in the old thread something like a female who was like a watered down, slightly less, upfront and more reserved, shall we say, version of Sanji, and he'd get kind of put off by it for some reason or another.

                                                                            Not sure if that's possibly in the loveless world of OP, but it's something, I guess.

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                                                                              I don't understand all the hype about Hancock.
                                                                              Caimie seems far more likely to join..she's not tied down (unless you count Hachi, but I can foresee some kind of fatherly "take care of her now!" goodbye from him if she goes with the SHs). And yes, I guess she is technically "weak" but maybe she's got something we haven't seen yet. Failing that, there's always her speed in the water…

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                                                                                I think someone suggested in the old thread something like a female who was like a watered down, slightly less, upfront and more reserved, shall we say, version of Sanji, and he'd get kind of put off by it for some reason or another.

                                                                                Not sure if that's possibly in the loveless world of OP, but it's something, I guess.

                                                                                I can see a young boy crazy girl fitting in with the crew. As long it isn't obvious she's the female version of Sanji who uses romance and obedience. Maybe a girl who tries to seduce the crew lol!!! or maybe…. a.... dominatrix?:ninja:

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                                                                                  I don't understand all the hype about Hancock.
                                                                                  Caimie seems far more likely to join..she's not tied down (unless you count Hachi, but I can foresee some kind of fatherly "take care of her now!" goodbye from him if she goes with the SHs). And yes, I guess she is technically "weak" but maybe she's got something we haven't seen yet. Failing that, there's always her speed in the water…

                                                                                  Well, Hancock's power may be needed in the New World and her completely obvious crush on Luffy would make for some great comedy. She's not a great choice and there's a lot of evidence against her joining, but then again she's not a bad choice and there is a fair amount of evidence for her joining. I give it 50/50.

                                                                                  As for Camie, I do like the idea of a mermaid joining and she would fill a new role on the ship (designer, which Oda could no doubt make far more useful and interesting than it sounds), but like you said she is weak and adds nothing personality wise. Supporting character at best.

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                                                                                    I repeat all. It's going to be a cool old lady. Probably from a species that can still look hot as they get older. Giants, fish people, etc. As for the role…something that's needed for the New World.

                                                                                    When I think about a lady who is old. Then I think someone with a Time fruit will fit. Or indeed a giant or mermaid.

                                                                                    But which girl has shown she has a time df n_n in the past 530 chapter? well?

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                                                                                      What if, quite literally the reason jinbei is in impel down is because of what Luffy did, and his knowledge that Ace is Luffy's brother?

                                                                                      I make the assumption he knows this information, it's possible he does not. But it's also of note that Luffy is good friends with Hachi, and has even rescued him and a mermaid.

                                                                                      These all have to be huge bonus points for his opinion of luffy, if/when he finds out about them.

                                                                                      At the very least, if Jinbei knows who luffy is, and meets him in the prison, it's unlikely that he's going to do anything to slow Luffy down, and extremely likely that he'll be a huge contributing factor to whether or not Luffy becomes a prisoner.

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                                                                                        Oh, must have misunderstood it then. Well case closed then.^^

                                                                                        Well, Shojo actually even says directly that he's a human. You can check that in chapter 226 (page 199 if you want to find it quick). The thing is though, that I can't shake of the impression that he says that because he wants to be considered a human while he actually is not. But that's just an impression of mine.

                                                                                        Masira on the other hand seems to be making a big deal out of being considered an ape respectively monkey. He does not clearly state though that he's an ape. But still he's practically the opposite to Shojo on that field. So it's still somewhat vague to me. I mean, there's always the possibility of mixed races (half-human, half-monkeyman) that could be a reason for that vagueness. The interesting thing is though that with Hamburg from Foxy's crew, characters that look like this aren't reduced to be a one time only thing. So I'd really not rule the possibility out of there being such a thing which I'd call ape- or monkeymen. Perhaps this is even the minkmen refered to on the price list for different races here.

                                                                                        All I'm saying is that with One Piece being a pirate manga and Monkey Island being a famous pirate game, it'd be a bit careless to not consider that characters like Masira, Shojo and Hamburg stand for more then we've seen so far. There must be a reason why Oda had Masira and Shojo on that calendar.

                                                                                        With the fishmen we have a thing again, are they fish or man? It may be just the case for their race, are they ape or man.?

                                                                                        And don't forget the Coffee-monkeys, that kidnapping group who took the giant into the auction house and were later seen drining on thei sorrow of coming second to a mermaid. They were also ape men.

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                                                                                          And don't forget the Coffee-monkeys, that kidnapping group who took the giant into the auction house and were later seen drining on thei sorrow of coming second to a mermaid. They were also ape men.

                                                                                          What the…? I never noticed that. I just thought they were called monkeys. But they really look like such. They even have tails. Ok, this settles it for me then. They have to be a race then.

                                                                                          The more interesting tidbit is though, that such a race actually works as a kidnapping team and provides the human auction with slaves. I mean, wouldn't a guy like Disco try to at least capture them? The funny thing is he wouldn't because perhaps they are no minkmen at all which means they are not featured on the list. Very interesting. Thanks for bringing that to my attention Angel.^^

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                                                                                            When I think about a lady who is old. Then I think someone with a Time fruit will fit. Or indeed a giant or mermaid.

                                                                                            But which girl has shown she has a time df n_n in the past 530 chapter? well?

                                                                                            I think it was already agreed upon that an old lady nakama would look young anyway and wouldn't need some time manipulating DF or some illusion one that changed her appearance or anything like that. She'd just be an old lady who still looks very young similar to how Shakky only looks like she's still in her prime.

                                                                                            ….And yea bonney already seems to have that time DF.....

                                                                                            I'd like to see a female join who has a DF with a weapon in it. Maybe one of the 5 zoans that allow flight.

                                                                                            One more weapon user and one more hand-to-hand/uses their body as a weapon nakamas.....

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                                                                                              what if they meet an old lady on an island then Bonney comes and makes her younger??? I'm interested if Sanji would go for her.

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                                                                                                what if they meet an old lady on an island then Bonney comes and makes her younger??? I'm interested if Sanji would go for her.

                                                                                                I dunno but it's uncertain if her powers are permanent. sucks for those marines in SA if they do lol….....

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                                                                                                  I haven't posted here in a while…. kind of stopped reading in Thriller Bark... went back when they faced the admiral and then stopped when they got teleported and then started reading again with this whole ID business going down. Which is EPIC.

                                                                                                  Anyhow, I noticed Jimbei has been imprisoned in ID for rioting and going against the WG. Not sure what is up his butt but it seems to me he'll be playing a big role in the coming chapters. Probably the fact that he is imprisoned makes it obvious Luffy is going to come across him... now he either helps Luffy potentially becoming a nakama or become just another adversary. We shall soon find out.

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                                                                                                    Perona will join the crew!

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                                                                                                      Perona will join the crew!

                                                                                                      what position would she take…....

                                                                                                      i can see her having some sort of importance with zoro, but im not sure about a crew member:wassat:

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                                                                                                        I believe that Perona would be a great lookout for the crew. She has her Ghost Network that can watch over a wide distance and she can go to sleep or whatever she does and still stay active.

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