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    DF users and their natural enemies

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      I just thought of it now, Buggy is the natural enemy of Law, right? Because how can he separate Buggy and put it in different parts if Buggy himself can control his loose parts.

      Another examples would be Luffy and Enel. I'm thinking Mr.1 and Kidd too because Mr.1 is steel and Kidd has somekind of magnetic power.

      Any other thoughts?

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        Kizaru and black beard would be another example.

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          Light vs Dark logia would be cool. But I wonder what's kizaru's DF has to offer aside from laser-like ability. Blackbeard has the power to negate the powers of other fruit users.

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            Is this stolen directly from the powers that clash or negate thread?

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              ^ Hahaha "Your mother negates my boner"

              A lock is imminent!

              Unless this thread deals strictly with DFs…......

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                @Zkaiser:

                Is this stolen directly from the powers that clash or negate thread?

                No. I don't even know there's a thread like that.

                EDIT: wow he had all 3(luffy enel, kidd mr.1, and buggy law) in there. My bad, sorry for that

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                  thread meltdown….......pointlessness overload...........sarcasm critical...........
                  oh yeah and in b4 the lock

                  one question though............would blackbeard kill brooke if he touched him

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                    Well Mr.1 and that Rust Devil Fruit user that was seen during the Buster Call come to mind.

                    I'm also not sure if Kalifa's attack would work on Alvida since they're both smooth based.

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                      doubt Mr1 wiukd have any problems with the rust guy since he is not technically metal all the time. He can just reform the blade into flesh and then back to a blade. and while the rust guy is busy disintigrating 2 of mr1s edges (I'm assumning he can only rust things with the palm of his hands) Mr1 will just cut him open with a third.

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                      What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                        Well Blackbeard and Kizaru of course. I remember BB saying something like: "Real darkness won't let even light go past" (Yeah, my english sucks more than my underwear)
                        Natural Enemy of Smoker could be something like wind, that blows his smoke away… But that would probably make his ability not so great anymore.
                        Of course the natural enemies of Mr. 1 are Kid with magnetic power and that rust guy.
                        Aces enemy is probably water, 'coz wet stuff doesn't burn.
                        Hancocks natural enemy is a guy with no balls, or gay, or somebody who can stop focusing on her beauty.

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                          Hancock vs Bon Clay cosplaying as Hancock.

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                            Ace can easily vaporize water without much effort. Remember that Ace's body IS the fire, it will keep he can literally ignite it at will (unless his covered in water, then thats a difference story).

                            Theres a saying that not even water could put out a strong fire.

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                              Could Croc beat ace?

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                                I think Buggy wouldn't fare very well against Blackbeard. He'd split up, get touched then die a pretty messy death.

                                Also Bonney would easily beat Hancock. No one would be transfixed by her beauty if she's really really old.

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                                  Hancock's (and Alvida's) DF will cause her to age with grace and never become like Dr Kureha. She will remain (relatively) beutiful even in old age.

                                  Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                    @Gorlom:

                                    Hancock's DF will cause her to age with grace and never become like Dr Kureha. She will remain (relatively) beautiful even in old age.

                                    Hancock's devil fruit has nothing to do with her appearance. She will become an old hag.

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                                      I believe Mr. 1 and Buggy would be a better matchup then Law and Buggy, because Law has one distinct advantage over Buggy. It might be spoiler-related, so I don't know if I should mention it.

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                                        how about the zoans?? cats(lucci) and dogs(jyabura) they are natural enemies though in their(lucci and jyabs) case lucci will definitely win.

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                                          Hancock's devil fruit has nothing to do with her appearance. She will become an old hag.

                                          Don't say that again 😧 It's sad, very very sad T_T

                                          Onigumo, the oni gumo. xD

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                                            Hancock's devil fruit has nothing to do with her appearance. She will become an old hag.

                                            That is what they WANT you to think!

                                            Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                            What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                              This Thread

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                                              Don't defy me.

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                                                @ultimec1a:

                                                This Thread

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                                                If you don't like it, don't post in it.
                                                People are discussing this topic peacefully, so there is no need to be a bitch.

                                                Got it?😉

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                                                      aces natural enemy is more the lack of oxygen or other flamable gases/substances than water. but when someone turns off the oxygen than that would also be the natural enemy of almost every living creature (exept trees, bacteria 'n stuff). i wonder if turning off the oxygen would affect brook cause he doesn't have lungs and if he could actually drown when he falls into the water… also the question somebody else posted before: would brooks df power be nagated when BB touches him?

                                                      awww crap, let's just go with gray is natsus natural enemy and vice versa 😉

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                                                        @Mugiwara:

                                                        aces natural enemy is more the lack of oxygen or other flamable gases/substances than water. but when someone turns off the oxygen than that would also be the natural enemy of almost every living creature (exept trees, bacteria 'n stuff). i wonder if turning off the oxygen would affect brook cause he doesn't have lungs and if he could actually drown when he falls into the water… also the question somebody else posted before: would brooks df power be nagated when BB touches him?

                                                        awww crap, let's just go with gray is natsus natural enemy and vice versa 😉

                                                        Not to nitpick but plants and most bacteria needs oxygen as well. Only most plants and stuff that produce oxygen through photosynteses produce more then they "consume" during the day. Locking a plant in a dark room and sealing off the oxygen would in the end make the thing suffocate.

                                                        Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                                        What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                          aokijis attacks wouldnt work vs scorching Don( Filler char)

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                                                            @Gorlom:

                                                            doubt Mr1 wiukd have any problems with the rust guy since he is not technically metal all the time. He can just reform the blade into flesh and then back to a blade. and while the rust guy is busy disintigrating 2 of mr1s edges (I'm assumning he can only rust things with the palm of his hands) Mr1 will just cut him open with a third.

                                                            I thought since Mr. 1 is a paramecia he would be metal all the time. Just as Luffy is rubber all of the time, and so on. He's basicly a living blade.

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                                                              Perona- Usopp.

                                                              Mr. 1-Buggy.

                                                              Enel-Luffy

                                                              And that's pretty much the extent of this thread. Before the lock, or lack of a lock or whatever, I'd just like to point out that Kuma's a great example of a guy who's strong enough to go "FUCK LOGIC" and beat down any lesser fighters. Remember the guys who say "One Piece isn't DBZ?" Well, One Piece also isn't Pokemon.

                                                              This thread may turn into a big versus thread by deciding who has advantageous abilities over who. I'd better not see anyone go "Buggy can beat Mihawk cause he's a sword user!" You should know better.

                                                              For example:

                                                              aokijis attacks wouldnt work vs scorching Don( Filler char)

                                                              Now, clearly Ao Kiji would kick Don in the nuts and throw him in jail. Abilities be damned, that man is an Admiral and a fighter with decades of experience under his belt. Don may have the right ability, but lacks the strength of character needed to fight Ao Kiji. Don't expect him to go all lame like Enel did after his powers didn't work for once.

                                                              Oh, but of course his DF is a natural enemy. It's just that, with heat and cold etc, which ever of the two is stronger in the one that wins out.

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                                                                @onemoment:

                                                                Remember the guys who say "One Piece isn't DBZ?" Well, One Piece also isn't Pokemon.

                                                                This thread may turn into a big versus thread by deciding who has advantageous abilities over who. I'd better not see anyone go "Buggy can beat Mihawk cause he's a sword user!" You should know better.

                                                                About pokemon, if I remember correctly pokemon wasnt all the time about element… But i get what you're getting at...

                                                                And you're right about that the df alone doenst cut it, but like in luffys case with enel it didnt hurt to be a natural enemy...

                                                                Also about Hancock, her natural ememies would be people like luffy who are pure of heart towards women or it could also be about his king haki that doenst allow it to work, but since luffy ins't releasing haki with any control I woulnd't bet money on it...

                                                                I would also like to point out that any weaker df user slipps from your mind when thinking about this, because they left such a weak impression... So basicly you might sometimes igrone abilities because you put the user and the df ability in the same boat and thinking the ability is weak... But as Luffy has proved a plain df ability like his can become a treasure box of power if the right hands....

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                                                                  I thought since Mr. 1 is a paramecia he would be metal all the time. Just as Luffy is rubber all of the time, and so on. He's basicly a living blade.

                                                                  Not every paramecia is constantly the power they are given..Foxys isn't made up of noru noru particles. perona didn't become a ghost. Calipha didn't become a soap (she had to incase herself in soap to protect herself against Nami's lightning attack*. If she would have been made of the same stuff she produced that wouldn't really have made any difference imo). Since Mr 1 didn't have edges all over all the time its my opinion that he is made out of flesh unless he creades a blade somewhere.

                                                                  (*If it was a lightning attack. I suddenly got a bit unsure about it and if it wasn't I'm preprared to remove Calipha from the example list)

                                                                  Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                    There are two types of Paramecias. There are those that are active at all time, like Luffys, and one that you have to activate on your own, like Foxys. Luffy is rubber all the time, nothing he can do about it. Mr1 can choose if he want to have his DF activated or not. Wich can be an advantage, but that also means that you can kill him pretty easy when he's alseep.

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                                                                      This is what I wrote on the subject:

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                                                                      @Kami_Sama:

                                                                      Paramecia's aren't always on. Some paramecias are always on.

                                                                      Yeah. It depends on the type of paramecia. In my mind I separated Paramecia into 3 sub groups:

                                                                      • Mutation Types, like the Rubber and Chop Fruit, are always active.

                                                                      • Creation types, such as the Bubble and Wax Fruits, must be activated.

                                                                      • Affect/Effect type like Door Door Fruit and Law's ability, must be activated as well.

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