Wouldn't using Kuma's powers be, like, the easiest way to get to Raftel? Just thinking that where one would like to go today… think Raftel. I dunno, maybe that's just something that would end the story early.
Shortcut to Raftel?
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ohhhh, you solved one piece, i guess we can all go home now
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As long as Kuma knows where Raftel is then it could be possible to send someone there. It most likely won't happe.
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He'd end up littering the landscape with paw prints….
... Kuma the biggest vandal around.
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For that matter, why wouldn't somebody hitch a ride on say, a giant bird, go to Reverse Mountain, but intead of taking the normal route onto the Grand Line, just go in the other direction. Raftel is right on the other side of Reverse Mountain, after all. There has to be something preventing such shortcuts… like you need place a log pose that has experienced a full chain of Grand Line islands onto a pedestal, and a stone door to Raftel will open (obviously nothing that ridiculous... just sayin').
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ohhhh, you solved one piece, i guess we can all go home now
but I'm using the PC in my room:blink:
but I thought of kuma sending someone to raftel that too
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Either Kuma has limits to his ability or the curvature of the Earth is too great a mound.
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arguably, kuma might have to know how to get there. on the other hand, what is stopping various logia users from getting to the end of grand line? cant ace fly there in a great fire storm? what about aokiji? do bikes not work in the new world?
biggest question: why dont pirate sinvest in seastone, attach it to their boats, and then just cross the calm belt right next to raftel/rough tale? clearly doable. i think oda needs to leave that open, since it must be hard comig up with a fool-proof way of blocking everything, given the existence of some crazy technologuy, and devi fruits. hmm.. could blackbeard just suck up the entire ocean, along with sea kings?
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The truth is Raftel is in another dimension in a pocket universe. The entrance is a whirlpool floating in mid air above the water. You can only enter with the use of a haki level over 9,000.
Given that diffcult task there's also all of the sea kings and other pirates and marines you have to fight to get there. Furthermore you won't understand what One Piece is if you haven't had enough knowledge of the void century.
Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?
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@Zik:
The truth is Raftel is in another dimension in a pocket universe. The entrance is a whirlpool floating in mid air above the water. You can only enter with the use of a haki level over 9,000.
Given that diffcult task there's also all of the sea kings and other pirates and marines you have to fight to get there. Furthermore you won't understand what One Piece is if you haven't had enough knowledge of the void century.
This guy is right.
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@Zik:
The truth is Raftel is in another dimension in a pocket universe. The entrance is a whirlpool floating in mid air above the water. You can only enter with the use of a haki level over 9,000.
Given that diffcult task there's also all of the sea kings and other pirates and marines you have to fight to get there. Furthermore you won't understand what One Piece is if you haven't had enough knowledge of the void century.
Actually, One Piece is in space
One Piece Z
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Who's to say that Kuma didn't already go to Raftel, find One Piece, decide it wasn't worth his time, and just leave? The same for Whitebeard. I suspect he found One Piece years ago, but decided that it wasn't the treasure he thought it would be. Now he just sculls around the New World, basking in his title, and the knowledge that he found One Piece and technically is the Pirate King.
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Exactly how is anyone that manages to cheat their way into the GL at the end of the new world going to find Raftel?
I think some of you might forget that the only navigational instrument that is actually reliable in there is the logpose… IF it is aligned.
Eiither that or you have a missconception about just how large the grand line is. (Dont know how reliable it is but in chapter 102 Luffy calls the GL the largest sea.) Even if you can somehow pick a direction without bothering about winds and currents it would still most likely take so long to find the island that you would run out of food before you acctually land at it.For those of you that need to read up on navigating in the Grand line:
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Since Raftel is at the end of the Grand Line, who's to say the reason no one else has found it yet is because they wait for their Log Pose to set on it?
It's the end of the line. The end of seven lines, actually. If normal compasses screw up in the Grand Line due to the magnetic interference of numerous islands, then the very absence of those islands should theoretically allow for normal magnetic function to resume.
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@_Meh_:
Since Raftel is at the end of the Grand Line, who's to say the reason no one else has found it yet is because they wait for their Log Pose to set on it?
It's the end of the line. The end of seven lines, actually. If normal compasses screw up in the Grand Line due to the magnetic interference of numerous islands, then the very absence of those islands should theoretically allow for normal magnetic function to resume.
Oh shit! It was so obvious! I can't believe I never thought of that! That's why WB is still waiting in the NW unable to get there. I wonder how roger found it then? Followed the poneglyphs until he found an eternal pose to raftel? As for kuma, I'm not sure. It seems like he could go to the edge of the calm belt in north blue or west blue and then blip he's there in 3 days. I suspect there's some sort of weather obstacle that's so great even kuma's paw bubble would burst and aokiji's ice would crack or melt.
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Pwngoat's nemesis, NuubBunny is guarding Raftel. Kuma tried to go there once, and had to hold a Bible ever since.
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How about someone with a bird zoan devil fruit just flying to Raftel?
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there is a shortcut to raftel. the original one piece was written with luffy taking the shortcut. however the manga only lasted 14 chapters and was quickly ended. so oda had to make luffy go the long way so he could create more chapters and make more money.
shortcuts=no money for oda
longcuts=money for oda:)its true i asked him
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I guarantee if luffy found out you could go on grand line the reverse direction and reach raftel immediately, he'd still go the long way.
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If Raftel was just a normal island at the end of the GL, then anyone could go there. The most powerful pirate crews in the world haven't been there, except one. There's obviously some twist to be able to reach it. No bird or paw print will get anyone there. Plus I'm sure that Kuma has to visit the places he sets as landing points.
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@$abZ:
If Raftel was just a normal island at the end of the GL, then anyone could go there. The most powerful pirate crews in the world haven't been there, except one. There's obviously some twist to be able to reach it. No bird or paw print will get anyone there. Plus I'm sure that Kuma has to visit the places he sets as landing points.
Kuma must be into some weird shit to send Sanji to that island.
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Maybe if Doc. Punk discover how to make air ship, from that day..going to Raftel is not a dream anymore.
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Maybe if Doc. Punk discover how to make air ship, from that day..going to Raftel is not a dream anymore.
Enel would have already visted there then, or atleast he has the potential to reach there.
Also, you people are forgetting that people cant just fly or cross the calm belt to the island, once they even get into the grand line they wont know which direction to go to since they dont have a set log pose. And no eternal pose exists for raftel.
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there is a bomberluffy in the end of the grand line
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Hmm…I was reading that chapter again that was posted and made me think that the lock post that was given to Nami is the same one that was used by the Gol D. Roger and his crew maybe that will help them find Raftel =O
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Hmm…I was reading that chapter again that was posted and made me think that the lock post that was given to Nami is the same one that was used by the Gol D. Roger and his crew maybe that will help them find Raftel =O
Actually, the lockpost belonged to Miss. Wednesday (Vivi) and the idiot who was her partner. So it's unlikely that it was used by Gol D. Roger. Besides, all lockposts lead to Raftel anyway
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Not all of them, but you can cross lines. If you look at the old map of the grand line, some paths stop suddenly.
I imagine its something simple like a huge storm or bad weather encircling the island with only one route through it. Or no routes and a need for a really tough crew to be able to mae the journey.
Either that or the mother of all guardians is watching over the island.
Or simply that the way things are with the 3 powers locked in, to progress forward there must be conflict with pirates forcing their way past another. Its stale mate don't forget in the New World. When Whitebeard falls though, the stale mate will end and the crews allowed to movve forward again. He is the closest to OP after all, I imagine he is blocking the way for everyone else.
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Wouldn't using Kuma's powers be, like, the easiest way to get to Raftel? Just thinking that where one would like to go today… think Raftel. I dunno, maybe that's just something that would end the story early.
Obviously not or the show would have ended long ago and Kuma would have already been the Pirate King.
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Kuma tried, but failed. And whatever he saw there made him so scared, he carries a Bible 24/7 now.
