Training Islands, Training What?

[sabret00the]

Based on the premise that the Island are all about training, forcing growth or knowledge on to the Mugiwara and given that we've now had all locations revealed. What do you think they're able to learn from their respective islands?

Obviously;
Luffy = Haki, Asce's doom.
Zoro = ??? Haki again?
Sanji = ??? Haki again? Though the popular choice IIRC was leg strengthening/endurance techniques.
Robin = More tidbits about the world history.
Franky = Technological advancements
Brook = More musical might other than sending people to sleep
Chopper = ??? I'm currently thinking it'll be something about his monster form
Nami = Power up for the Clima Tact
Usopp = Bravery yet again.

Thoughts? Alternative ideas?

[jack1000]

@sabret00the:

Based on the premise that the Island are all about training, forcing growth or knowledge on to the Mugiwara and given that we've now had all locations revealed. What do you think they're able to learn from their respective islands?

Obviously;
Luffy = Haki, Asce's doom.
Zoro = ??? Haki again?
Sanji = ??? Haki again? Though the popular choice IIRC was leg strengthening/endurance techniques.
Robin = More tidbits about the world history.
Franky = Technological advancements
Brook = More musical might other than sending people to sleep
Chopper = ??? I'm currently thinking it'll be something about his monster form
Nami = Power up for the Clima Tact
Usopp = Bravery yet again.

Thoughts? Alternative ideas?

I think Brooke will learn some music related attacks kinda like Apoo

I want choppah to learn to fly (bird island :P)

[Meinris]

Robin will learn endurance through a lot of manual labour :p
Sanji will strengthen his legs through a lot of running, and might learn some haki
Zoro will just survive, and get a lot stronger in the process.
Usopp won't just learn bravery, I think he will learn to become more cunning and deceitful, enabling him to trick enemies a lot better (other than "I have 8000 minions!"

[Muerte]

@jack1000:

I think Brooke will learn some music related attacks kinda like Apoo

I want choppah to learn to fly (bird island :P)

I agree with you on Brook, I'll just assume that Apoo's powers were racial after all instead of DF powers (Somehow Apoo reminded me of the mummy like tribesman from Hunter X Hunter randomness) But if this is true that means Brook will probably engage in a battle involving music. Could see an upgrade happening there.

Concerning Chopper, I think it's more likely that those shaman tribe dudes will learn him a thing or two about unknown herbal medicines, though he will likely leave the island with the help of those birds.

Nami and Franky's seem obvious… Don't have a clue bout Zoro and Sanji tho... :wassat:

[Ivotas]

@jack1000:

I think Brooke will learn some music related attacks kinda like Apoo

Now that you say it, Apoo is from the longarm tribe. Coincidence? ;)

[Porinero]

I actually think brook landed on a great place to learn more about hes devilfruitpower.

[.access timeco.]

As Ivotas said, Apoo's tribe is the same as those guys who "summoned" Brook are fighting against. So this one is pretty clear.

However, I have my doubts if all of them will get stronger. I mean, Luffy didn't. Aside from (very) strong allies, he didn't got anything new from Amazon Lily.
I wouldn't be surprised if Zoro and Sanji also don't get a power up (they are pretty strong already, not New World level, but a lot!). And I would love if Kuma sent Sanji there just 'cause he have some twisted (and secret) sense of humor.

Chopper will learn the 'Chopperman' point \o/\o/\o/\o/ and will become Sogeking's sidekick… or the opposite.

About Usopp and the bravery... I don't know, I always thought his "brave training" would be at Elbaf :/ I would like that. Maybe now he could gain some DF powers (or better: Kabuto would!).

[Ivotas]

@.access:

However, I have my doubts if all of them will get stronger. I mean, Luffy didn't. Aside from (very) strong allies, he didn't got anything new from Amazon Lily.

Doesn't he still have a while until he meet's up with his crew? Also, the groth thing doesn't have to be a direct thing but something on a long shot. There's still the chance that Hancock explains the Ambition thing to him. He doesn't have to grasp full comprehension of how it works now. But simply being aware of what it is and that it's in him is already guaranteed to power him up in the future. The Strawhat's still have a long way to go, so they don't require instant power up.

About Usopp and the bravery… I don't know, I always thought his "brave training" would be at Elbaf :/ I would like that. Maybe now he could gain some DF powers (or better: Kabuto would!).

What Usopp needs is to improve his sniping skills on terms of hitting targets that try to dodge his attacks. He might be superb at long distance precision, but he's still a zero at hitting objects that avoid his shots. Normally a good sniper is somebody you're only safe from, when you find cover. But for Usopp it's enough to jump a little from right to left and you're safe. From the top of my head I only remember him not hitting Jabra and Absalom (of which the latter didn't even use Soru). I doubt that guys like Yasopp or Van Auger couldn't snipe someone who performs Soru. So yeah, this is a power up that Usopp desperately needs if he wants to be a true king of snipers.

[.access timeco.]

He could get the Lock Lock Fruit that would allow him to take sight of his target and LOCK OOOOON!

[Crossword]

Usopp's upgrade will be adding another verse to the Sogeking Song.

And I say Sanji is where he is because Kuma's annoyed at him trying to steal Zoro's Heroic Sacrifice away from him.

[brennen.exe]

@Crossword:

And I say Sanji is where he is because Kuma's annoyed at him trying to steal Zoro's Heroic Sacrifice away from him.

I always thought that Sanji's eyebrow attempted to hypnotize Kuma using its unmastered Haki, but gave mixed signals about being a hentai that went from erotica to homoerotica.

[Vanessa]

@Ivotas:

What Usopp needs is to improve his sniping skills on terms of hitting targets that try to dodge his attacks. He might be superb at long distance precision, but he's still a zero at hitting objects that avoid his shots. Normally a good sniper is somebody you're only safe from, when you find cover. But for Usopp it's enough to jump a little from right to left and you're safe. From the top of my head I only remember him not hitting Jabra and Absalom (of which the latter didn't even use Soru). I doubt that guys like Yasopp or Van Auger couldn't snipe someone who performs Soru. So yeah, this is a power up that Usopp desperately needs if he wants to be a true king of snipers.

I wouldn't really count Absalom since he was invisible throughout anytime Usopp would have gotten a chance to hit him(during Nami's bath and her subsequently getting captured by him later on).

You are right though in Usopp needing to better his sniping against moving targets. I'm sure that'll come somewhere down the line though so I'm not too worried. As for the bravery situation, like mentioned earlier, that'll be during the crews adventure through Elbaf(whenever they get there).

[Mugiwara Kaizoku]

wasn't apoo from the longhand tribe?

edit: ok, someone mistook it for longarm tribe before but it's the longhand tribe. apoo relation speculation theories allowed.

[Ivotas]

@Vanessa:

I wouldn't really count Absalom since he was invisible throughout anytime Usopp would have gotten a chance to hit him(during Nami's bath and her subsequently getting captured by him later on).

Absalom is actually an even bigger disappointment then Jabra, since the latter was at least using Soru. Absalom actually just stood there when Usopp fired and turned invisible during the shot. Hitting him after he became invisible is not the problem, but the shot was fired before that and it still didn't hit. That's worse then not hitting somebody who uses Soru.

You are right though in Usopp needing to better his sniping against moving targets. I'm sure that'll come somewhere down the line though so I'm not too worried. As for the bravery situation, like mentioned earlier, that'll be during the crews adventure through Elbaf(whenever they get there).

To be honest, I actually fear that Oda might completely ignore that part, which would be a huge disappointment. Whenever Usopp displayed great sniping skills it was always because of precision on a large distance. It was never even brought up in the story that he still lack's something on his domain. The fight against Jabra would have been the perfect chance for him to be like "I still have much to learn/improve in order to become a really good sniper" but that wasn't the case. A lack of sniping skills was never brought up, only that he's not good at close combat.

I really hope, that I'll be mistaken here. But so far I really doubt that Oda will go that route with Usopp, which would suck because Usopp lacks one half of what makes a good sniper. And he lacks it totally.

[Captain Brooke]

@Porinero:

I actually think brook landed on a great place to learn more about hes devilfruitpower.

Nothing more to learn, all his power does is bring him back to life, simple as that!

What I can see is Robin some how getting stronger through being a slave??

Chopper dealing with his Monster Point

Nami upgrade

&

Ussop with more weaponry

[Zik]

Nothing more to learn, all his power does is bring him back to life, simple as that!

That's your baseless opinion seeing as that's what Oda would want you to think since Brook said himself the only thing he knows about the DF is that he can be brought back to life. He doesn't even know if it can happen multiple times.

[Vanessa]

@Ivotas:

Absalom is actually an even bigger disappointment then Jabra, since the latter was at least using Soru. Absalom actually just stood there when Usopp fired and turned invisible during the shot. Hitting him after he became invisible is not the problem, but the shot was fired before that and it still didn't hit. That's worse then not hitting somebody who uses Soru.

What? How exactly is that worse? It's not like Usopp can magically make his ammo hit an invisible opponent. So I don't really get how Absalom using his Devil Fruit is a fault on Ussop's end. That's more a matter of speed of the ammo itself rather than accuracy anyway.

Against an opponent using Soru or even just moving around at least gives a chance to at least follow the movements so as to get a shot in, but when Absalom turns fully invisible there's really no way you can track the guy. The only reason Sanji managed to is because he already hit Absalom with the Salt Stars as the latter was turning invisible.

To be honest, I actually fear that Oda might completely ignore that part, which would be a huge disappointment. Whenever Usopp displayed great sniping skills it was always because of precision on a large distance. It was never even brought up in the story that he still lack's something on his domain. The fight against Jabra would have been the perfect chance for him to be like "I still have much to learn/improve in order to become a really good sniper" but that wasn't the case. A lack of sniping skills was never brought up, only that he's not good at close combat.

I really hope, that I'll be mistaken here. But so far I really doubt that Oda will go that route with Usopp, which would suck because Usopp lacks one half of what makes a good sniper. And he lacks it totally.

I guess it all depends if he actually picks up anything from his situation at Boin Archipelago. That'd be the soonest we can get some kind of glimpse, and even then it's not something to rule out if it doesn't happen there.

[Ivotas]

@Captain:

Nothing more to learn, all his power does is bring him back to life, simple as that!

Going by the ideas in this thread there's some of us who think that there might be more to his ability. But to make it short, Brook has the Revival Fruit, not the "One Time Only Revival" or the "Limited To Just Myself Revival" Fruit. The full extent of such an ability might be much larger with such a vague name. But I guess, further discussion on that belongs in said thread.

[Hinscher]

Well here's my take on their islands

Nami - No climatact upgrade. Its already the perfect climatact. But she will use this wind somehow, I can see her having some sexy outfit on with a rope integrated into it.

Brook - If long-arm is like Apoo then possible new music learnt. I mean a musician can always learn new compositions.

Sanji - NO idea, he always seems like the butt end of the joke so heck for all I know he comes back pissed off but with stronger legs from running.

Zoro - I'm hoping no perona joining for sure. But for him thinking maybe he learns to cut her ghosts (why perona would help him train or they fighting for, no idea) and this is like breath for steel. Like cutting Logia is cutting diamond (or Kuma). So him cutting ghosts is like when he learnt to cut steel. Its a step but still not there.

Choppper - hmm birds ruling men. This could be kind of how the monster inside of him is ruling himself. Now sure how gonna help him besides a symbolism for himself to think about.

Usopp - Obviously he gets some new gadgets/ammo/ect from hercules. And also be good for his brave warrior of the sea to be on his own for a bit.

Franky - Learns of new technology and gets new materials for the ship and himself. Hoping though that he puts a Franky spin on all of it and doesn't copy it exactly. Also he does his upgrades on himself and not somebody else.

Robin - Learn more about world obvious. Have no idea what training would do, or how she even gonna escape.

[Tortuga Delirium]

to come back to usopp, I think he will learn to strengthen his several projectiles, maybe imput them also with "haki" like the amazons
I think his greatest weakness is that his projectiles doesn`t do enough damage to strong opponents, so even if he would hit Absalom or Jabra, it would only make them laugh…

[AlmostLegendary]

I actually think that once Zoro is fully recovered he will become stronger him taking on Luffy pain like that will eventually benefit him in the long run.

[They call me D]

Well not only will they get stronger from specifically dealing with the troubles at the locations they were sent, but they will also have to get to the New World or at least Fishman Isle very quickly after they finish up at their present locations.

They will most likely have to speed through some dangerous waters on their way to the New World going as fast as they can, and in doing so will have to face all kinds of hardships.

[AlmostLegendary]

@They:

Well not only will they get stronger from specifically dealing with the troubles at the locations they were sent, but they will also have to get to the New World or at least Fishman Isle very quickly after they finish up at their present locations.

They will most likely have to speed through some dangerous waters on their way to the New World going as fast as they can, and in doing so will have to face all kinds of hardships.

I think that they're all already at Shabony or the execution site.

[Neverw1nter]

@AlmostLegendary:

I actually think that once Zoro is fully recovered he will become stronger him taking on Luffy pain like that will eventually benefit him in the long run.

Yes, Zoro is actually super sayajin, he gets stronger the more he is beaten up! :happy:

[RobinotX]

Luffy: Haki. In sort way that maybe he can send Haki fists to the enemy?

Zoro: Demon Haki or Beast Haki. Demon haki because of Rayleigh callin Dark King. So maybe he and Rayleigh has te same..

Nami: Obviously upgrades in her mind and weapon, possible new weapons also..

Usopp: Well an upgrade in his weapon set would be nice, and Usopp with Kabuto having a Devil Fruit is a wonderfull idea.

Sanji: I am saying Okama Kenpo on a Sanji way. And probably more endurance, and powerfull legs..

Chopper: I am seeing a upgrade in the Rumble Ball, so he gets Fly point. Or else he is going to learn how to control his Monster point, but then lesser in strenght.

Robin: I have no fucking clue. Other than maybe clones. Or more power. And ofcourse more knowledge

Franky: Cyborg upgrade. But I hope he learns to make puppets, who will work on Cola. The Cola Soldier Squad: SUPPPPPPPPAAAAAA~

Brook: Obviously a way to use music as attacks, I am stil thinking he maybe get's his full potential of his DF to know, maybe he can summon things from The Underworld. Like Demons.. with music.

Would be perfect __

[eapark]

Luffy - He'll learn to control his haki and he'll be able to fight against logia fruit users like Rayleigh can

Zoro - who knows? bring perona along as a temp. crew member? Or learn some haki

Sanji - Finally gets over his weakness for women after either the trauma or because he accepts homosexuality

Nami - New research on weather and new weather gadgets like that knot that produces wind, might come in pretty handy on a ship

Usopp - Learn to anticipate danger with mantra/haki. It's probably the same thing, just people from different islands call it different things. Or maybe just some technology upgrades or maybe a devil fruit, it looked like there was a lot of weird shit on that island

Robin - Some more history crap. The bridge is 700 years old, it's got to have something historically valuable inside it

Chopper - something medical or something devil fruit

Franky - Technology from the future

Brook - More music to put you to sleep with

[sabret00the]

@RobinotX:

Sanji: I am saying Okama Kenpo on a Sanji way. And probably more endurance, and powerfull legs..

I pretty much think that if Zoro gets haki then Sanji will too, but the big question is, why would he learn Okama tempo which was ultimately =< than his original moves?

[RobinotX]

I have no idea, I think that maybe Okama Kenpo is more stronger for people who train to be flexible..

Or he get's just another style to learn, and it's not really a powerup?

[GEPPETTOSMONSTER]

@RobinotX:

Brook: Obviously a way to use music as attacks, I am stil thinking he maybe get's his full potential of his DF to know, maybe he can summon things from The Underworld. Like Demons.. with music.

that would be awesome, I kinda figure that they will give him a electric guitar that ate some sort of DF fruit.

[Gaiyae]

Luffy
Haki obviously

Zoro
I'm hoping not for a Haki upgrade. And Zoro being able to cut ghosts, seems a bit lame imo.
I'm hoping he'll simply learns how to control his demonic energy.
I personally think it's something different then haki, and only master swordsman's have one.

Sanji
Sanji's either trains his leg by running around for days or i could see there being a female
martial artist on the island, that will actually show Sanji some new moves.

Nami Besides the Wind rope, i hope Oda suprises us with another crazy gadget.
Maybe something to summon ice.

Usopp
Probably new ammo, the same that Herakles uses. I think there is more to
his bullets then just more destructive more. Maybe something related to Usopp's deceiving ability's.

Robin
She'll probably help finish the bridge and gain some knowledge about the past.
Her powers are perfect for helping finishing the bridge. By doing so,
i think she'll just learn to master her ability's some more.

Chopper
Oda stated that if a human would've eaten the Human Human fruit, they'll become enlightened.
The way i see it is that Chopper monster poinst is something that goes beyond his Reindeer side.
So why not let Chopper go beyond his human side? and become enlightened.
I could see him look almost like a normal human, with some slight reindeer looks (maybe still the horns),
and him being able to control all of the monster points strengths.
Or maybe just, let him be able to transform without using rumble balls.
And when he eats a rumble ball he'll gain more advanced new forms.

Franky
Get's a body/weapon upgrade. I hope he keeps his back weakness thought.
Weaknesses like that make a character more interesting IMO.

Brook
I think he'll just learn some new songs, and come with ways to incorporate those songs
in some new music basic techniques. Demon summoning would be amazingly cool,
but it just doesn't sound like something Oda would do IMO.

[Xylo]

Sanji has to learn Okama kenpo. He just has too.

[Peal]

Ok, what's with everyone thinking Brook is from the long arm tribe?
Seriously, the dude has long arms, but Brook definitely doesn't have two elbow joints like Apoo.

[MEAT77]

@Xylo:

Sanji has to learn Okama kenpo. He just has too.

Fucking no!!!! Sanji ain't gonna copy the moves of those fags. MAybe he will just adopt some of it and use it in his own style and there are even no proof that those fags on that island are using okama kenpo.

brooke - guitar hero or rock band???????

[Peal]

@MEAT77:

Fucking no!!!! Sanji ain't gonna copy the moves of those fags. MAybe he will just adopt some of it and use it in his own style and there are even no proof that those fags on that island are using okama kenpo.

brooke - guitar hero or rock band???????

Haha, what a homophobe.
You really need to "Come my way" XD
(Well actually not my way, since I'm not a homosexual.)

[sabret00the]

@Peal:

Ok, what's with everyone thinking Brook is from the long arm tribe?
Seriously, the dude has long arms, but Brook definitely doesn't have two elbow joints like Apoo.

At this present moment in time we know so little about the Long Arm tribe, all we know is that Apoo is attacking people with music. It would make sense that this is something that's been used by the tribe for Millenia and thus their Long Arms are infact a symptom of evolution using said methods. However, not everyone subscribes to that, some people believe that he has a Devils Fruit, so if the abilities that were seen used against Kizaru were about the compilation as opposed to the instrumentation, then it's still perfectly possible that the melodies belong to the Long Arm tribe and that the fruit merely is about the incorporation of the instrumentation into his body, of which he was just lucky to have the double joints through heritage. All in all though, most people agree that the Long Arm tribe is the home of the melodic attacks.

[MEAT77]

@Peal:

Haha, what a homophobe.
You really need to "Come my way" XD
(Well actually not my way, since I'm not a homosexual.)

Are you on a gay denial or something?????

[brennen.exe]

@sabret00the:

At this present moment in time we know so little about the Long Arm tribe, all we know is that Apoo is attacking people with music.

Well Volume 52 just came out so hopefully soon enough we will get the SBS questions, and perhaps the answer to those questions.

[Vash The Stampede]

has anyone proposed the possibility that sanji will meet bon kurei again, and who knows, train with him, like zoro will probably do something with perona? also, possible at least temporary Bon kurei SH join?

[Ryuksgelus]

He's in jail bro.

I can't wait to see Brooke get into a competition with the 2nd best Long-Arm tribe musician.

[DesertSpada]

At this point, Luffy has the best chance of meeting Bon Clay again, and I really don't see Sanji learning any moves from anyone on that island. Okama Kenpo isn't his style. As everyone said, leg strength from running might be something. Maybe he'll kick one of them to find out that they are all super sturdy thus making his body adjust to kicking such hard things. In this way he'll not only get stronger with his muscles, but his bones will become much stronger as well.

Luffy's is obvious. His haki has developed a lot from knocking Mumumbo(?) the love bison out, to freezing the Boa sisters in their tracks(haki users) and knocking countless people in the crowd unconscious and foaming at the mouth. This will continue to develop.

Usopp will get new gear. After all, he's on an island full of man eating plants, weird plants and giant bugs with Heracles. Maybe add some beetle horns as projectiles or a make shift close quarters weapon or shield. There may be some plants with different properties that he could use with his ammo. He's great at inventions so he's got plenty of material to work with.

Nami's is obvious as well. Her weather attacks will become stronger and maybe get more knowledge on these things.

Chopper….hmm...I don't know, but it has something to do with the giant birds....eventually.

Zoro needs lots of rest now, but I don't know how Perona will fit into this.

Franky will study all of the wondrous things they have at the most futuristic place on the planet and make some upgrades. I'm anxious to see what he'll do with it.

Brook? Eh. Your guess is as good as mine.

Robin will learn a lot here with so many centuries of history right there for the taking. She's not is seastone cuffs, so she's relatively safe. Other than that, hmm.

[Duuffie]

Geeze, how many times do I have to say this?

Sanji is mastering Okama Kenpo!

You know? The martial art style used by number 2?

[Santouryuu]

Well, at least Brooke finally got panties.:wub:

[captainjustin]

@Duuffie:

Geeze, how many times do I have to say this?

Sanji is mastering Okama Kenpo!

You know? The martial art style used by number 2?

wouldn't sanji have to be an okama to use okama kenpo? which he seems to most definitely not be. although he does flit around alot in a high pitched voice… hmm...

[Neomaster121]

Luffy techniqually developed his haki a bit more now when he commands an emotional order enemies are effected
Zoro he needs rest thats true but rest can't heal the pain, perona hid his swords maybe he'll learn to hear the breath of his swords or just medutaate developing his demon aura and then scarying perona slowly into giving the swords back and helping him get bck
sanji stumped no clue what he will learn
nami control weather, does anyone think she might have been the reason luffy was slowed down?
brookes, increase strength
usopp bravery
chopper inner self search using his human side to control the beast
robin learning more

oda slowed down luffy for a purpose i guess the crews already arrived or close by

[RobinotX]

When I first saw Chopper he did let me think of Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hide.

His Monster form is Mr. Hide. Chopper is Dr. Jeckyll.
Jeckyll used a potion to hold his monster form. To control it. I am expecting the same thing with Chopper.

[Gorlom]

@RobinotX:

When I first saw Chopper he did let me think of Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hide.

His Monster form is Mr. Hide. Chopper is Dr. Jeckyll.
Jeckyll used a potion to hold his monster form. To control it. I am expecting the same thing with Chopper.

Wouldn't this be equivilant to the rumble balls? :wassat:

[Kaizoku's Soul]

ooooooo im just curios how they are going to be after the island

[ilman]

Franky: new weapon and make an awsom vehicle. How else is he going to return??
Nami: a new secret weapon aside the climatact
Zoro & Sanji: HAKI…HAKI...AND HAKI. But they will receive them subconciously. They don't know what it is...but they do know how to hurt with it.
Chopper: Bird allies
Brooke: No idea...
Robin: Just some knowledge about the past. Btw, I think robin can escape anytime, because I don't think shes bind by seastone cuffs. She just stay there to learn more about the bridge.

[brennen.exe]

@Gorlom:

Wouldn't this be equivilant to the rumble balls? :wassat:

Yeah, but nothing wrong with advancing his Rumble balls a little more. Maybe a longer duration of time they can be used, or another form or two…?

[Tanuki]

@DesertSpada:

Zoro needs lots of rest now, but I don't know how Perona will fit into this.

Perona will of course prevent the lunatic from trying to get up again, and reopening his wounds by using her negative hollow ability.

Least that seems the most logical. Also Perona wants back to Moria…maybe she and Zoro will find a way to get to where Luffy and Moria are?