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[CosmicDebris]

OK, I've seen two derailed threads that have turned into Transformers discussions, so I decided to start one. There's a good chance that there are a lot of fans here, whether it be from the 80's line, or Beast Wars, or the current shows that are being sent over from Japan (RiD, Energon, etc.) as well as the new toys, or possibly the Dreamwave comic line (now defunct, but recently picked up by another company). If you're a Beast Machines fan, then please go away. J/K. But that show was an abomination. XD
I, for one, became a TF fan back when it started in the mid-80's. My first TF action figure was Bonecrusher, the Constructicon. I don't collect the toys as much anymore, but I still have all my old ones. I even attended the BotCon conventions from 1998-2001. And of course, I have the movie and all the episodes on DVD. ^_^

Favorite TFs:
Autobots: Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Perceptor, all the Dinobots
Decepticons: Starscream!

Also, there's a live action movie coming out. After reading some of the production credits, I'm not so sure if I'm looking forward to it or not, though….. :unsure:

[Battle Franky]

Stan Bush - 'The Touch' Music Video.

The single greatest thing ever put on the intraweb.

[Konis]

Man, I loved the Transformers. It had such an interesting back-story for a kids' cartoon. The characters were cool, the toys were awesome. _

Let's see, favourites… I had so many!

Autobots - Wheeljack, Swoop, Ironhide, and Mirage were probably my top favourites, I actually liked all the Dinobots to be honest, but Swoop was the smartest of them... and he was always second-guessing himself, and Grimlock.

Decepticons - Well, that's tougher, because I actually liked whole gestalt groups... so, having said that, the Stunticons (Dead End was my favourite, he was the pessimist), and the Predacons (Divebomb, just because he looked cool and thought so much of himself). I also liked Laserbeak, the little sneak he was o.o, and Ravage, for the same reason. OH! And Kickback, from the Insecticon trio.. I still can hear his tinny echo-machine voice if I think about it. Energon-gon-gon... >.>

I'm an oldies Transformers fan. ^^ I grew up with the original cartoon, so nothing ever came close to it for me. And since they killed off Wheeljack, who was my absolute, number 1, favourite of them all... everything after it was just, I don't know, less cool to me. I mean, I still watched the series after that, but I really didn't care as much for the Cybertron transformers as I did all the originals. If I recall, they also killed off Ironhide and First Aid, and some of the Dinobots.. it's been a very long time since I've seen the movie, but I very clearly remember Wheeljack's lifeless body atop a pile of other dead Autobots, and Ironhide exploding ;;

I think the only transformers that came out after the movie that I fell in love with were the Predacons. They just looked so very cool. _ That's not to say I stopped collecting the toys after the movie killed everyone I liked.. I never really stopped collecting 'em, as long as they were difficult to transform, I continued to pick them up from time to time

[CosmicDebris]

Originally posted by Battle Franky@Jun 7 2005, 12:00 AM
**Stan Bush - 'The Touch' Music Video.

The single greatest thing ever put on the intraweb.
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Hehe, I have that on tape from way back in the day.

I love the TF:TM soundtrack. I have the regular one that has mostly the rock songs plus some soundtrack music, but I also have the complete Vince DiCola score. Vince being one of my favorite musicians alone. ^_^

I'm an oldies Transformers fan. I grew up with the original cartoon, so nothing ever came close to it for me. And since they killed off Wheeljack, who was my absolute, number 1, favourite of them all… everything after it was just, I don't know, less cool to me. I mean, I still watched the series after that, but I really didn't care as much for the Cybertron transformers as I did all the originals. If I recall, they also killed off Ironhide and First Aid, and some of the Dinobots.. it's been a very long time since I've seen the movie, but I very clearly remember Wheeljack's lifeless body atop a pile of other dead Autobots, and Ironhide exploding ;_;

TF:TM was really brutal in that regard. I can't believe they thought it would be a GOOD idea to kill off a bunch of everyone's favorite characters. I was mostly pissed off about Starscream. I always thought the greatest appeal of the Decepticons was that they had a good amount of chemistry between Megatron, Starscream, and Soundwave. When Megatron became Galvatron, I felt he reverted into a cliche, evil, impulsive, slightly insane villain. It just wasn't the same. At least he had Starscream coming to haunt him as a ghost a few times. They even brought Starscream's ghost into Beast Wars.
Beast Wars was a good show. I really liked how they connected the original storyline with the new one. I wish they had kept going with that instead of the awful Beast Machines.

[wolfwood]

i was in fact watching an episode of the transformers when i noticed this topic
the one when megatron tricks the world into thinking they are the good guys and sends the autobots on a space ship headed for the sun oh god how i love the hilarious plots in these old episodes.

and im an 80s fan all the way the other shows were pretty much crap IMO.

and the best characthers was defintly starscream with his treachery in almost every episode :lol: and thundercracker and skywarp i loved all three of the orginal seekers

[Menchi]

Originally posted by Battle Franky
The worst thing I've ever seen on intarweb

You wasted five minutes of my life. How will you make it up to me?

[wolfwood]

and i forgot to mention the other three little favorites of mine ramjet cause i love his personlity his design and his little philosphy "if it flies i can crash it" :lol:

and the little guy that ejected out of soundwave the one the could make earthquakes i always forget his name he was awesome.

and lastly swindle cause of the fact that the guy would sell of his own momma for profit a robot opportunist is just a great concept.

[CosmicDebris]

i was in fact watching an episode of the transformers when i noticed this topic
the one when megatron tricks the world into thinking they are the good guys and sends the autobots on a space ship headed for the sun oh god how i love the hilarious plots in these old episodes.

Oh, I love those episodes. :lol: It was a two-parter. I remember being all distraught about it when I was a kid. All those old episodes are really funny when you look back at them now. The animation got really bad at times, particularly in the post-movie era. And there were some BAAAAAD episodes too. Anyone remember "Carnage in C-minor" and "Nightmare Planet"? shudder. I thought one of the funniest episodes was when Galvatron got taken to some planet of psychologists in an attempt to cure him of mental problems.

I have to post this link again: Transformers World's Worst screenshots It takes a slightly warped sense of humor, I suppose. :lol:

[Master Gold Dragon]

Beast Wars was my favorite. But I also started out on G1, got me into it. But I related to Beast Wars the most. Yeah…Beast Machines...was a waste of everything. EVERYTHING.

Wheeljack was my favorite Autobot

[wolfwood]

i knew it im not the only one who love the WWFF

and now i remember the name of the little tape guy it was rumble i loved his character he was a street thug and always acted like he was as big as the others even thought he was like a third of their size :lol:

and oh god i still have nightmares about Carnage in C-minor that episode sucked so ridicoulsly much <_<

and galvatron sucked so much come on they take away a great villan like megatron and replace him with a raving psycho who beats his own troops more than the enemy does <_< bad move by whoever did it

[Cap'n Carter]

My main experience from the Transformers comes from the badass movie (I have the DVD).

My favorites…

Autobots: Definitely Grimlock and the other dinobots, but Grimlock is the best!

Decepticons: Megatron was simply a badass. I always thought Starscream was a bit overrated.

lamest transformer: Ultra Magnus

[Battle Franky]

Originally posted by Menchi+Jun 8 2005, 04:15 AM–>QUOTE(Menchi @ Jun 8 2005, 04:15 AM)

[Menchi]

No, not really. It made me very angry at the waste of intarweb.

[Battle Franky]

Well, if you can't appreciate that just a little bit. Then you're probably not much of a Transformers fan, if at all. <_<

[wolfwood]

you wouldnt have to be a TF lover to see the greatness in that music video

[The Dude]

Ah the TF movie. Such hilarity.

In teh uncut version, the only curse is the most unnecessary one.

Spike: Ah, shit what're we gonna do now!?

[CosmicDebris]

lamest transformer: Ultra Magnus

A lot of people would agree with that. :lol: Hence, this screenshot never fails to make me laugh.

**In teh uncut version, the only curse is the most unnecessary one.

Spike: Ah, shit what're we gonna do now!?**

It still boggles my mind to this day why they felt they had to put that in there. It's really funny that it is, though. It's back on the DVD, too.

[wolfwood]

http://www.worlds-worst.com/worldsworst/screenshot.php?id=78

at this link we have a pic on the funniest on-going joke on the WWFF IMO at least,

and i case you were wondering in the WWFF fan fics starscream is gay or at least it seems that way and he acts that way and in any case every one thinks hes gay

everyone should read their fan fics they are absolutly hilarious

[Cap'n Carter]

I always thought it was funnt how Spike was like "shit!" out of the blue.

And awesome music video. Whatshisname is probably a troll.

[Konis]

Originally posted by Cap'n Carter@Jun 7 2005, 04:24 PM
lamest transformer: Ultra Magnus
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I dunno.. some of those other post movie ones were pretty bad >_< Like the headmasters… >.>

Another thing that royally pissed me off about the movie.. here they are killing off half the friggin' cast.. and not ONE person died in GI Joe. I call foul!

I think my favourite episodes were the ones where the Dinobots were built. First there was Grimlock, Sludge, and Slag in one set of episodes... then later on Swoop and Snarl (YAY! Swoop!). Now I wanna watch 'em again _

He's a little link I wanna share.. took me a while to find it, since the original site is gone.. but yay! All the stuff's here ^_^

Superdeformers

Good stuff!

And pay Menchi no mind, that's just Sana.. he likes to go into threads he doesn't care about and rag on people.

[CosmicDebris]

Originally posted by Konis@Jun 7 2005, 08:06 PM
I dunno.. some of those other post movie ones were pretty bad >_< Like the headmasters… >.>

Some were good, though, like "Call of the Primitives", where all the beast-like TFs fought Unicron's successor. Although I never liked the idea that Unicron was built by a little nerdy guy. I prefer the comic universe backstory in which he is an acient overlord type. And don't forget some of the lame pre-movie episodes…like "Hoist Goes to Hollywood", and "City of Steel". They're funny, at least.

I think one of my all-time favorite episodes was "Microbots", the one where Megatron got "the heart of cybertron" and Bumblebee, Brawn, and Perceptor had to shrink down to microscopic size and remove it from his body. Another one was "Cosmic Rust" where they were all being infected by this epidemic of rust causing organisms. :lol:

Another thing that royally pissed me off about the movie.. here they are killing off half the friggin' cast.. and not ONE person died in GI Joe. I call foul!

I was never a G.I. Joe fan. But I think one of the issues there is there were so many more Transformers than G.I. Joe characters. G.I. Joe seemed to center around the same main cast of characters most of the time, while in TFs it was always someone different, besides Optimus Prime. In Hasbrow's mind: Need to introduce more characters to sell more toys, and get rid of some to make room for more. That's all there is too it, flawed logic it may be.

**He's a little link I wanna share.. took me a while to find it, since the original site is gone.. but yay! All the stuff's here ^_^

Superdeformers

Good stuff!**

I think I saw this page before, long ago. I used to have all the cool TF links, and the very bizarre ones, I've been out of the loop for a while, though. I was looking for "Galvatron v. Ultra-Beavis". I have it on my computer still, I'll have to put it on yousendit.com.

[Otaku no M]

Being a HUGE Transformers fan, I gotta post here.
Favorite transformer: Grimlock.

_Originally posted by Battle Franky+Jun 7 2005, 02:00 AM–>QUOTE(Battle Franky @ Jun 7 2005, 02:00 AM)__Stan Bush - 'The Touch' Music Video.

The single greatest thing ever put on the intraweb.
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Whee! I love all music from TF the movie.

Originally posted by Konis@Jun 7 2005, 10:06 PM
**lamest transformer: Ultra Magnus
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He's a little link I wanna share.. took me a while to find it, since the original site is gone.. but yay! All the stuff's here ^_^

Superdeformers

Good stuff!

And pay Menchi no mind, that's just Sana.. he likes to go into threads he doesn't care about and rag on people.
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HOLY ****! THAT WEBSITE STILL EXIST!? It was THE first online-comic I read.

<.<

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TIL' ALL ARE ONE!_

[wolfwood]

my favorite episodes would have war dawn where the aerialbots go back in time to the golden age and learns that all decepticons are assholes(thought loveable assholes )

and the two parter where starscream is exiled for his latest attempt to kill megatron and builds the combaticons outta old WW2 tanks and such to get his revenge at megatron,

and finaly the one where the triple changers try to overthrow megatron and starscream to become the new leaders of the decepticons and occuupies a fotball arena to do so :lol:

all three are top notch episodes

[CosmicDebris]

I like all three of those too. Another good one was when the Autobots participate in a charity race, and meanwhile Megatron gets a hold of this ancient weapon called "the pearl of Bahudin" (sp?) and they're after some jerk's car because it's made of a special kind of metal. Oh, and that one where they get stuck on a gambling planet.

[Anime Master]

TF…my little sister ate my Optimus Prime toy. I still hate her to this day.
Now if anything peeved me, it was Galvatron. Megatron was so awsome, then he gets changed in the movie to G. Now here he is such a badass and the producers could have done something. But no...in the series he is insane thanks to Unicron. But no matter how cool Galvatron could have been, he fails to be awsomer then Starscream.

[CosmicDebris]

She ate your toy? :blink: Dang, you'd think that would cause permenant damage. To her.

I agree, while Galvatron was cool in the movie (being voiced by Leonard Nimoy), he was a complete idiot in the series. I missed Megatron. He wasn't a typical villain. He was highly intelligent and shrewd, and he seemed to rule by his charisma rather than by brute force.
But nobody beats Starscream. :lol: It's a shame his VA, Chris Latta died. I think it was cancer that took him early.

[Konis]

Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jun 8 2005, 11:05 PM
But nobody beats Starscream. :lol: It's a shame his VA, Chris Latta died. I think it was cancer that took him early.
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Chris Latta was why I liked Starscream at all… I loved that voice. He was also the only reason I watched GI Joe at all, I had zero interest in it.. but Cobra made me giggle. I'd invision him as Starscream, barking orders. ^_^

[Cap'n Carter]

Yeah, Starscream isn't the same without that voice.

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

RIP Chris Latta

Transformers is kick ass. The original Optimus Prime is teh shit.

Cosmic you're a TF fan?! Damn, what don't you do?

[fubukii]

my bro got all the seasons of transformers on dvd (original)

my least favorite transformer would be that punk starscream -.-

favorites include

Autobots: Sideswipe, dino bots, cup, and Omega Supreme!!!!!! and also that cool dude who was a city fortress maximus

Deceptacons: Megatron, Galvatron, soundwave , Devastator, and the combatacons.

[Cap'n Carter]

Oh yeah, I also liked Jazz because he was voiced by Hong Kong Phooey.

[fubukii]

hong kong fuey was the man

[CosmicDebris]

Ah yes, Scatman Crothers (Hong Kong Phooey and Jazz, also in "The Shining"). RIP to him too.

Cosmic you're a TF fan?! Damn, what don't you do?

Probably a lot, since I'm a fan of so many darn things. Hehe. J/K

[wolfwood]

ah to bad that he died i loved starscreams raspy high pitched voice :lol:

and i just saw the funniest TF episode ever called "a prime target" where a big game hunter decieds to get the head of optimus prime and the funniest part to me is that he with just the help of his senile old butler manages to easily captures every single autobot except prime and even 2 decepticons :lol:

[Ivotas]

Cool a Transformers thread. I´m a huge fan of the original 80´s series. I´ve not seen that much of Beast Wars but I like what I´ve seen. And judging from what I always hear it had to be a kickass series.

The only thing that kind of annoys me about each new TF series no matter which one it was is that it was always a new Optimus Prime fighting a new Megatron in a different setting. I mean sorry if I hurt anyones feelings but that became kind of lame after a while and all that these new Primes and Megatron´s did was just constantly remind me how superior the classic ones are.
Unfortunally US products rather tend to revive classic series instead creating new ones. OK as a big MotU fan I was happy that it was revived a couple of years ago but I still take any new series over a constant rehash of classic material.

That said let´s talk some Transformers here.

My all time favorite was the classic Galvatron. Though he didn´t have the great Leonard Nemoy voice in the series he was still the man.

Other´s I loved were Bumblebee, Grimmlock, any of the Predacons especially Predaking, for some reason Metroplex and of course Optimus Prime.

I only wished Prime would have stayed dead instead of being brought back since his death was one of my toughest TV experience I´ve ever had as a kid. :mellow:

[Anime Master]

Let me say this…she chewed on it till it broke. I came home and well...screamed my head off.
Now of all the spin offs, I feel Beast Wars is the best. It had a plot that intertwined with the original(Waspinator gets possesed by Starscream, the ark episodes) and Dinobot was badass. Can someone get me a pic of Megatron with his rubber duckey?
I also liked Armada. The twist with Starscream was unexpected and the fact he died to stop Unicron(he knew he would die from Unicron through Galvatron ala movie) and had the Beast Wars VA for Prime and Megatron.

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

Beast Wars was the best spinoff. The others were either okay, or extremely sucky.

[Sloth]

Heh heh… I saw it when I was... super young..

The gorilla that transformed into a robot.. who was he? Prime?

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

He was Optimus Primal, Sloth.

[Sloth]

Heh heh, Prime - Primal. Genius.

Now, if they had a animal transformer based off a Sloth.. that would be the ultimate.

[wolfwood]

would the beast wars series be worth watching if your a huge fan of the 80s cartoon ?

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

Originally posted by wolfwood@Jun 12 2005, 12:46 PM
would the beast wars series be worth watching if your a huge fan of the 80s cartoon ?
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Yes, considering it actually has to do with Generation 1. And some of the later episodes have the G1 characters as well. The show also has cool fights and awesome character development. Just stay away from Beast Machines.

[CosmicDebris]

would the beast wars series be worth watching if your a huge fan of the 80s cartoon ?

I think so. MOST of the people I know who grew up watching the G1 cartoon also love Beast Wars. Just stay away from Beast Machines. ^_^;

BTW, the question of the ages: Where DOES Optimus Prime's trailer go when he transforms?

[wolfwood]

umm into the magical sub space where omega supremes base mode parts goes into when he transforms into rocket mode :unsure:

allright then i will try to download it
but one thing has always bothered me about the beast wars cartoon and thats the fact that they are animals not cars or planes,

i mean can a transformers cartoon really be good with no decepticon jets what so ever

[CosmicDebris]

umm into the magical sub space where omega supremes base mode parts goes into when he transforms into rocket mode

You are absolutely correct! And also where Soundwave, Megatron, and Blaster's mass goes when they transform into small objects. I see you are well versed in TF geek fandom. I actually asked that question to the writers of the old series at a panel at Comic-Con. I got a good laugh out of that from everyone there..

[Ivotas]

Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jun 12 2005, 11:04 PM
You are absolutely correct! And also where Soundwave, Megatron, and Blaster's mass goes when they transform into small objects. I see you are well versed in TF geek fandom. I actually asked that question to the writers of the old series at a panel at Comic-Con. I got a good laugh out of that from everyone there..
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That different size thing is a technology that was developed on Cybertron shortly before the Autobots and Decepticons left the planet in the classic series. I don´t know how it was called but it sure was some revolutionary technology that allow the Transformers to have a completely different size in their transformed mode. Before that they just transformed but didn´t change their size.

Unfortunally I don´t remember anymore where exactly this info was stated but it surely is like that.

[CosmicDebris]

There are so many different TF universe mythoses between the cartoon, the US comic, the British comic, and whatever else, it becomes confusing. I have a friend who did a rather impressive attempt at linking them together. The newer DW comics have done similar things. What you describe sounds like a fanwork, but maybe not.

[wolfwood]

yup sounds like fanwork to me to or i can at least not remember where it was said in the 80s cartoon which i consider to be the orginal or the classic.

and i like the explanation ive heard better since its nice with a cartoon that doesnt really have to have a logical explanation to every thing there for i love the magical sub space theory :lol:

[CosmicDebris]

or i can at least not remember where it was said in the 80s cartoon which i consider to be the orginal or the classic.

Don't ever say that around an avid comic book fan, you'll get an earfull. :lol: The comic and cartoon came out at the same time, so they're both original. They started off very much the same but eventually began to branch out in different directions.

[wolfwood]

oh really ?
didnt know that i always assumed that the comics were a spin off product of the cartoon well in any case my love for the G1 cartoon is greater than for the comics

the comics i considered to be a mixed bag i mean it had its high points and those were all great s but then in came some retareded writers among them were like someone named umm budansky i think it was and totaly screwed it over having all the heroes and villans act totaly outta a character <_<
and having ridicouls story lines.