I tried searching this and there was no results. So anyways, in here, you post whats the worst Anime dub and worst Manga translation.
NOTE:Do not list the 4kids dub of One Piece, because everyone here knows its bad.
Worst Anime Dubs
Dragonball Z and GT
Megaman NT Warrior
Worst Manga Translation
I don't know
Worst Anime…
Simple...Cardcaptors...
I haven't seen the original, but from what I can tell, it may have been worst than 4Kids OP.
I tried searching this and there was no results. So anyways, in here, you post whats the worst Anime dub and worst Manga translation.
NOTE:Do not list the 4kids dub of One Piece, because everyone here knows its bad.Worst Anime Dubs
Dragonball Z and GT
Megaman NT WarriorWorst Manga Translation
I don't know
Are you kidding me? Dragonball wasnt done that badly it could have been alot worse. I liked it. Plus it pretty much single handedly made anime popular in the states. Everyone I know watched that dub man.
Are you kidding me? Dragonball wasnt done that badly it could have been alot worse. I liked it. Plus it pretty much single handedly made anime popular in the states. Everyone I know watched that dub man.
people tend to forget that, they also tend to forget that without out dragonball's influence there wouldn't be one piece or practically most popular shonen jump titles.
Are you kidding me? Dragonball wasnt done that badly it could have been alot worse. I liked it. Plus it pretty much single handedly made anime popular in the states. Everyone I know watched that dub man.
-Lots of bad translations
-BGM Change(Fixed in the Boxsets)
-Story Changes
-Non Fitting Voices
-Next Dimesion(Fixed in the Boxsets)
I'd have to say that dbgt was far worse of a dub than dbz, and dbz was completely fine to me. I didn't mind the bgm change or the next dimension thing a whole lot as I was like 10..none of that mattered as long as I enjoyed the show.
On the other hand, I absolutely hated Astro Boys dub, I was young but I just couldn't get into it.
Sonic X, and of course I hated Digimon's first season.
One Piece's early translations come to mind for "worst translation". Perhaps not because of their general quality, which could have been worse, but by establishing the precedent of not translating common Japanese words like "nakama". Naming conventions have got to be the biggest local OP issue on this forum between the anime and manga translators.
Are you kidding me? Dragonball wasnt done that badly it could have been alot worse. I liked it. Plus it pretty much single handedly made anime popular in the states. Everyone I know watched that dub man.
And most likely half of them can't stand it now
people tend to forget that, they also tend to forget that without out dragonball's influence there wouldn't be one piece or practically most popular shonen jump titles.
I kind of doubt that.
And this
http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/10/22/gundam-00-nyoron-translation-errors/
@Sandai:
And this
http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/10/22/gundam-00-nyoron-translation-errors/
You know, I seem to recall once seeing that guy make a blog about another fansub that was like, 10 times worse than that… And that's pretty disturbing.
The worst one I've seen, not counting One Piece... Dragonball Z. Seriously, I freaking hate that dub. There's so much stupid dialogue added in there, and sometimes the script is rewritten so badly that the entire original meaning is lost. (For instance, in the japanese version, the reason Vegeta hates Freeza is in fact because Freeza forced him to work for him all his life, which Vegeta couldn't stand, because it hurt his PRIDE. In the dub, he keeps going on about how he wants revenge because Freeza "Killed his father, his people, and turned him into a monster" or something like that, even though the Saiyans already WERE savage monsters to begin with, and they don't even care if their family gets killed. Oh, and the TV-special about Burdock is COMPLETELY different in the dub. Seriously, the dub-script is nothing like the japanese one.)
One Piece's early translations come to mind for "worst translation". Perhaps not because of their general quality, which could have been worse, but by establishing the precedent of not translating common Japanese words like "nakama". Naming conventions have got to be the biggest local OP issue on this forum between the anime and manga translators.
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Every Time I say "Nakama Should be Translated" somewhere, I get attacked.
Well, can't stop fans from stupidly thinking that saying "Nami, you're one of us!" somehow loses the meaning that "Nami, you're my nakama!" has, I guess. Though I find the constant fancy subtitle-effects to be just as annoying as "Nakama", if not more so.
Although I have seen this one example that's FAR worse than using "Nakama", that being a sub of Digimon (for the record, it was 3G/WPP) that had, among others:
-"Yoush" instead of "Okay" (Translator's note explaining what "yoush" meant.):getlost:
-"Nee", instead of "Hey", or whatever translation fit best. (Translator's note telling me that this term is apparently untranslatable.):getlost:
-Birdramon's attack subbed as "Meteo Wing", with a translator's note saying that "Meteo is the japanese pronounciation of the word Meteor". I just thought "Why not just say "Meteor Wing", then?" :getlost:
-Not translating "Shinka", even if it just means "Evolve".:getlost:
And the worst of all:
-"Then, ore… I mean, what shall watakushi do?" (Translator's note saying how "ore" is an informal way of referring to yourself, and "watakushi" is a much more polite way of saying it.) Insert one million facepalm-images here
Yeah, worst fansub ever.
someone menchioned card captors. I actually liked the Dub. I watched a japanese episode once and i found it rather dry, and it reminded me a lot of sailor moon. Something I didn't get from the Dub.
Speaking of sailor moon, that's another bad dub.
someone menchioned card captors. I actually liked the Dub. I watched a japanese episode once and i found it rather dry, and it reminded me a lot of sailor moon. Something I didn't get from the Dub.
Speaking of sailor moon, that's another bad dub.
Your comment about Card Captor Sakura there makes about as much sense as saying that the mutilated dub of the third Digimon-movie is good because the japanese version was abysmally bad. The point of a dub is to ACCURATELY translate something into another language, so all the stuff that they apparently did to that show makes it pretty much the worst dub ever.
And yeah, Sailor Moon's dub sucked. In a way, I guess it got a bit better starting with S, but then you have "Serena" sounding like a 40-year-old woman. Seriously, what WERE they thinking when they gave her that voice? It doesn't sound even slightly like a teenager. Granted, I haven't actually seen much of the dub myself, but I know what kind of stupid stuff they did, and I have seen the finale of the first season. Sheesh, way to kill (no pun intended) one of the few episodes in the show that were genuinely awesome.
Do fansubs count? Because the people who do the Hokuto no Ken fansubs have really odd/weird translations, almost to the point where whole lines are different.
As for official releases, the 4Kids uncut releases of YGO and Shaman King had some really weird translations as well, but I think I brought this up in another topic. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head, but I can probably have others come to mind if I think hard enough.
And, even though it doesn't pertain to anime/manga in general, FF7 srsly has the worst translation on the face of the earth. What in the name of fuck is an "illusionary crime"? (Well, I know what it should be because I looked up the original dialogue, but still…damn.)
@Vegard:
Your comment about Card Captor Sakura there makes about as much sense as saying that the mutilated dub of the third Digimon-movie is good because the japanese version was abysmally bad. The point of a dub is to ACCURATELY translate something into another language, so all the stuff that they apparently did to that show makes it pretty much the worst dub ever.
did they dub it acuratly? I don't know. I stated I never really watched the original. I'm simply stating, that when I watched the dub, I enjoyed it. It was an interesting story with interesting characters, and it kept a good pace.
I watched digimon season 1 Dubbed. I'm sure it's WAY better in it's original form, but I still loved watching it. Even with it's cheesy dialogue and changed character names.
And, even though it doesn't pertain to anime/manga in general, FF7 srsly has the worst translation on the face of the earth.
Nah, FFV holds that particular title. The PS1 version from Anthology at least. (They used "quest" as an adjective and gave Faris a pirate jowl, among other flubs)
@Sandai:
And this
http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/10/22/gundam-00-nyoron-translation-errors/
Thanks for reminding me of why I'll never use Nyoron~ ever again. >___>
Are you kidding me? Dragonball wasnt done that badly it could have been alot worse. I liked it. Plus it pretty much single handedly made anime popular in the states. Everyone I know watched that dub man.
The original dub was taken off the air several times.
And yeah, it's defintely one of the worst imho.
One Piece's 4kids dub is pretty close to being as bad tho.
Naruto's manga translation is pretty horrible with "Art of the Doppleganger" and all that.
Tp's Beck translation just turned me off with all the "word up dawgs" and that sort of language.
@Vegard:
Your comment about Card Captor Sakura there makes about as much sense as saying that the mutilated dub of the third Digimon-movie is good because the japanese version was abysmally bad. The point of a dub is to ACCURATELY translate something into another language, so all the stuff that they apparently did to that show makes it pretty much the worst dub ever.
Not true, especially not in the realm of professional dubbing (With fandubbing, more or less, but those are a rarity). The purpose of a dub is to apply audio native to the country it's being released in. It's about making the product marketable; it's about making money, not providing accurate translations (The translation is an entirely seperate process. The writers take the translation, and do with it what they need to in order to pull off a successful dub.) When anime is expected to be sold exclusively on home-video, it's expected that the buyers understand the concept of anime, more or less. That's when the point is an accurate translation, because the buyers are going out of their way to obtain the product. If they aren't satisfied, they're not going to pay for any more of it. The buyers want to buy accurate translations.
When it comes to Television, it's a completely different story. Anyone can turn on the TV and end up as one of the viewers. So, that's when the product has to cater to the general audiences, instead of the Japanese-savy. Younger viewers might be unfamiliar with Japanese culture may be confused, and put off. If it's Americanized, or changed otherwise to cater to the target audience, they're more likely to keep watching; and everyone else might as well watch, because it's the only thing on/it's background noise.
Should some 70-Year old executives decide that girls are incapable of being cool, the entire point of the dub then becomes making Li into the main character, hence securing the young-male viewer base.
Also: To Sell Toys. 'Nuff said.
The point of translating is to provide an accurate translation.
The point of the scripting or dubbing is to make money.
So, considering viewers, such as captain usopp, enjoyed the product, it reached its point.
Other examples include Bobobo, and Shin-chan. Two series which probably would never have worked on television had they focused on accuracy.
On the flip-side, though, the rape of Sakura left fans desiring the truth, which created a market for an accurate translation: Which Geneon eventually provided in the form of Sub DVDs.
Anything 4kids has touched…..end of story!
Worst anime translation or dub…hmm.
This has been said a thousand times before, I know. Mostly by oldsters like me. But guess what? You're gonna hear it again.
Warriors of the Wind.
This was the first official, commercial translation/dub of Miyazaki's Naussicaa of the Valley of the Wind, and it was butchered.
Horribly.
For those unfamiliar with it, almost a third of the film was cut. Not for time constraints, or God forbid, adult material, but for a plot element that defined the entire film. For a comparison, imagine a One Piece dub that eliminates Shanks from the story entirely. Seem like a bad decision? That's how the fans felt about Warriors of the Wind. Unsurprisingly, Miyazaki hated it too.
So much so, that Miyazaki has asked that English-speaking fans forget about this particular translation of the film; the same film that led to Studio Ghibli's very genesis.
For my part, I hope that it is never forgotten, lest such abysmally ignorant editorial decisions be made by so-called "professionals" again.
In recognition of Corsair King's excellent post, I will say that WotW was a commercial dub, and as such, was produced for a general, mostly American audience, in the early 1980's (CEO's Thoughts: "Hey, it's a cartoon; Cartoons are for kids. Take out this dumbshit 'intellectual' bullcrap and dumb it down to their level.") Editing and dubbing it in such a fashion made sense, from somebody's viewpoint. Unfortunately, it didn't eliminate two other plot points. Namely:
The lead character is a girl.
The lead character beats the ever-lovin' crap out of the soldiers who murdered her father, and winds up bloody and broken by the end of the film.
From a 1980's Marketing Executive's POV, this has zero chance of appealing to the kiddos. Little boys will be turned off by the fact that the lead character is a girl. Ooh, cooties! Yuck!! Little girls will be turned off by the horrible violence. It's not shiny, pretty ponies leaping over rainbows! Wah, Mommy I don't like this film!
Which begs the question, what target audience was Warriors of the Wind aimed at? A general audience over the age of twelve could have followed the unexpurgated plot. It just seemed as though too many executives passed decision on what the dub should be, and wound up ruining it. As I recall, it never was a big commercial success either way. So in the long run, it was a bad dub because it failed to make a good return on investment.
I didn't have that much trouble with DBZ. But anywho..
Yu-Gi-Oh!
Naruto
Laputa: Castle in the Sky (my ears bleed D: )
That's all I can think of right now
Originally Posted by Drake_Cloud
He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.
Anything 4kids has touched…..end of story!
I aprove of this post.
the whole marketing thing reminds me of pokemon. I remember the episode with caterpie, ash makes a joke in the english version about a cow, as a play on words, but that's not the actual translation. I forget what the joke was, but us as an american audience wouldn't have gotten it anyways. I think the problem was, it didn't translate well.
Caterpie Joke:
Japanese : Mushi (insect) = Ushi (Cow)
US: Caterpie = Cowterpie
If I recall, 4kids was actually pretty accurate back in the days of early Pokemon because it was their first anime property. Too bad things went south pretty once they realized what they had tapped into.
