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Geez, I'm getting all upset with this Naruto fans around there.
I've watched it till ep 7, but didn't found anything special…Ok, we have ninjas, but, what else?
And now, my friend who reads OP says that Naruto has the same coolness he found in OP.
They are completely different animes I know, but the genre is the same (comedy, adventure/action), so I'd like an opinion of wich is better?

BTW the poor kid who compared Naruto with OP hasn't even reached the alabasta Arc, so I prayed for his blasphemy and didn't executed him.

I'm staying with OP, don't care if I watched very little of it.
Naruto is pretty childish, different from OP "MANGA".

yeah they're really different
and i think OP is much better

Battle Franky

Well it doesn't compare with the great masterpiece, that is ONE PIECE. But give it more time, watch or read at least upto the end of the wave country arc & then I'd definitely recommend you continue onto the Chuunin exams.

..and if you still aren't impressed, then I'd say Naruto just isn't the series for you.

Himizujin_Eternia

It's an aquirred taste, really. While One Piece is better, that doesn't mean that Naruto is a terrible series. It's all about what you find fun. Quite frankly, I don't regard One Piece as the be all, end all of manga either, but I have just as much fun reading One Piece as I do other mangas.

Captain Kuro

I like One Piece better, but I still like Naruto.

But I still think you should watch more of Naruto before you quit for good. Your friend hasn't gotten to Alabasta yet, but you've only seen Naruto up to episode 7….

Yeah truth.
But, I wont quit it yet, I wanna arguments to say why OP is better, so I'll watch all the eps he has there, wich if I'm not wrong goes till 57.

EDIT:BTW, night all, going sleep.

Heritic

I like both, equally.

And if you aren't pleased with Naruto, don't waste your time with it. I like OP and Naruto equally so I can't tell you which one is better. That choice is probably best left up to you.

Battle Franky

Originally posted by Himizujin_Eternia@Feb 16 2005, 08:30 AM
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Kinda odd really, going from one forum to another, you'd really get the impression that One Piece was the acquired taste. This place & maybe one or two other forums, are perhaps the only places on the net that really has a large, dedicated fanbase, who really indulge in discussion about all aspects of the series.

The rest of the net seems totally unware of its existence, while Naruto & Bleach have become insanely popular.

Himizujin_Eternia

Originally posted by Battle Franky+Feb 15 2005, 05:42 PM–>QUOTE(Battle Franky @ Feb 15 2005, 05:42 PM)

DarkShinobi

One Piece is so much better than Naruto. It's funnier than Naruto, it has better character development than Naruto(However, Naruto's character development is good though, don't get me wrong.), it has better fight scenes than Naruto, and it's all around more enjoyable than Naruto. And pirates totally pwn ninjas.

I guess the thing I love so much about OP, the thing that makes it so entertaining is that I love it even though it's sort of a positive, happy-go-lucky story, where hardly any main character dies(instead they just get seriously fucked up). And my favoirte anime are mostly dark series like Hellsing, YuYu Hakusho, and Gungrave. But OP which is anything, but a dark series(well, it does have some dark parts, like the Arlong arc) is in the the top 5 in my favorite anime/manga. Even though it's an optimistic series, it's just so badass that I can't help but love it.

Plus, the way Oda develops the characters and their backstories is just excellent. Every character he creates, even the smaller ones are all brilliantly developed. Sanji's past and why he ever won't let someone starve was really great. And when they revealed why that guy in the Arlong arc with the pinwheel on his head(forgot his name) started wearing the pinwheel, I was sorta shocked since I thought Oda just put it there as a part of his wacky character designs.

I originally liked Naruto better at first, since when you first hear what each is about, Naruto does sound better and more badass, while One Piece sounds like some crappy kiddy pirate tale. Plus one of the first chapters I read from One Piece was from the terrible Buggy arc, so of course I originally liked Naruto better. But after reading the Kreig arc in OP, I said to myself, "Fuck Naruto! This shit's much better." And that's pretty much when I started to love OP.

IMO, Oda is a god of manga to be able to take a story about a rubber pirate and his crew looking for some legendary hidden treasure and make it into such a badass story with excellent characters and enjoyable fights. Naruto can't even compare to One Piece. It's a reat series, just not up to OP's level of greatness. Plus the Narutards are annoying as hell.

oceanizer

The rest of the net seems totally unware of its existence, while Naruto & Bleach have become insanely popular.

It's just the targetted age group is a bit older for One Piece compare to Naruto. Kids probably appreciate Naruto probably like as early as Elementary school to high school, maybe college students. On the other hand, One Piece fan age group is later Elementary school kids to it can go as old as ~30.

I mean, I cannot imagine any young adults (college and up) are reading Naruto… :x

So considering majority of Manga/Anime fans outside of Japan/Asia, especially in the States, are college and under, that's how Naruto gets more popular than the other... :x

Himizujin_Eternia

Originally posted by oceanizer@Feb 15 2005, 06:20 PM
I mean, I cannot imagine any young adults (college and up) are reading Naruto… :x
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Do you mean in Japan? Because I'm college age and I read it.

oceanizer

Ok, I'll include college in there then
But how about like, 25 and older? :x

normyk

I'm over 25 and read it. Don't consider it to be near as good as One Piece, but its a fine way to waste 5 minutes.

Mog

Agreed. I find the Naruto manga (I don't bother with the anime anymore) to be an entertaining read filled with fun action and really nice artwork.

The only gist is, that's all it is. One Piece is creative, original and funny. And if need be, incredibly dramatic and intense. Oda's storytelling is what I'd define as brilliant, and I don't see any of that originality in Naruto.

That doesn't make it a bad series, just…. less good. In my opinion, of course. Don't hurt me. Nyu.

PirateFetus V.2

yes one piece is better. its just more fun

Seta Ginny

This is just a reminder to play nice. You've all been tactful so far, but just remember that there is no series bashing allowed on this forum. So be good, guys ^_~

I really liked Naruto until lowly Genins started defeating much older wiser and powerful Jounins. It was completely screwed up. But yeah, Naruto doesn't get "amazingly awesome" until past the 20 episode mark. Until then it was just a very entertaining show about ninja's.

One Piece is definitely better than Naruto, but Hunter x Hunter is better still.

Kaizoku-Ou

Well, although I still d/l the eps, the Naruto anime has gotten really bad, with the occasional good episode. Even then its not very good. OP has been consistently good since Krieg. Manga-wise, its original, whereas Naruto is mindnumbingly predictable and fairly typical. I still really like it, though. I just like OP alot more. plus Naruto IS alot more accessable, just an added plus.

Rasengan Zero

It's all opinion. As of now, I currently like One Piece better than Naruto. Naruto is more of an action, angsty kind of series (ironically enough it's 'action' with the dragging out of fights. I just find it ironic, don't mind me). One Piece is more adventure oriented I suppose, it has more humour and drama to it (not like Naruto doesn't). Don't get me wrong, I like both series.

I guess one of the reasons for me liking One Piece more is that it's done something most anime/manga series haven't done for me. Making me laugh out loud, a LOT. It's hilarious stuff. Almost every episode I'm laughing at something, if not every episode. Another reason I suppose I like it more is because it's something nice to fall back onto after reading all of these dark, unpredictable series like Monster and 20th Century Boys. Something to brighten the mood.

But, once again, it boils down to opinion. And for now, I like One Piece better than Naruto.

I seem to like OP better (such that I find it more profound and the characters MUCH more interesting), however I do appreciate Naruto as well such as through the setting and interesting abilities (though some could be a little…flakey). Anyway, I find some of the characters from Naruto to be a bit bland (flat characterwise) in contrast to the dynamic personalities of OP (several maniacs in this series XD). But Naruto does have it's charm.

Likewise I began reading Hunter X Hunter (poor art) yet I find this serie captivating as well. ^^

(Hence all series have their strengths and weaknesses, it just depends on how you view them XD)

gerusama

Since we are currently in an OP forum, obviously OP is better

I like OP better because of the whole OP world. It's much more complex than naruto and much more unpredictable.

But Naruto is cool, too, but pretty predictable. I watch it because of the great action and entertainment. Sometimes, there are some really funny moments in Naruto. But OP keeps me laughing much, much more

Yoska

Although I find Naruto better in few places One Piece's superior in all other areas, it's really not even a contest. I'm not generally a big fan of fighting comics but One Piece is an exception here, I dunno why though. It might be because it's well balanced between humor and adventure, and doesn't have complex fights.

Monkey.D.Luffy 0

One Piece ROCKS ALL THE WAY!!!!! :lol:

I think One Piece is a better series and I (obviously) like it more to Naruto.

But. I still adore Naruto. I think Naruto is brilliant. I just happen to think One Piece is better.

One Piece has something in it to appeal to everyone. When it's dramatic, it's heart breaking. When it's funny, it makes actually makes me laugh. Oda-sensei is the best mangaka I've ever read work by, simply because he's so dedicated. His art and his stories are both wonderfully fresh.

Tony Tony Chopper

One-Piece is my favourite. i havent really seen much of Naruto but i'd like to see more.

Anthony

OP favours tremendously in my opinion, the only reason i still watch naruto anime is because of the uchiha flashback that will appear soon, i have picked up reading naruto manga because of naruto and it has slightly awaken my appetite for naruto but i even prefer HxH over naruto and HxH is really poorly drawed lately.

Buccaneer

Since we are currently in an OP forum, obviously OP is better

Yeah, what'd you really expect us to say, Rody?

Naruto is a good series, but I like One Piece much better. Compared to the former, it's a breath of fresh, sweet air. I just think it's too easy to make a series about pre-teen ninjas that become infinetely more powerful while they balance out their love lives. That's actually why I think One Piece is more successful; it's not quite like any other shonen series, and it's still brilliant.

Kalei

In my opinion, Naruto can't even be put into the same sentence as OP, Oda's story is just miles ahead of what Kishimoto's stuff could ever hope to be. Not that its horrible, but it's like comparing a beat-up, rusty old VW Bug to a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo; there's just no compairison.

Well IMO, Naruto could be really great it it was not so slow with all the callbacks….. I mean each episode has about 5 to 10 minutes worth watching I watched OP 1-221 and maybe only during skypiea I had the same feeling. Naruto is like "very nice moments in few episodes" and OP more balanced.

Buccaneer

I was comparing the manga series, since I've hardly seen the Naruto anime.

Yeah, that's probably one of the only things I dislike about Naruto. The constant flashing back. It's alright in the manga, but in the anime it's almost every other sentence sometimes. While this can make it emotionally significant, it also tends to irk me.

Himizujin_Eternia

Originally posted by Kalei@Feb 18 2005, 10:50 AM
In my opinion, Naruto can't even be put into the same sentence as OP, Oda's story is just miles ahead of what Kishimoto's stuff could ever hope to be. Not that its horrible, but it's like comparing a beat-up, rusty old VW Bug to a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo; there's just no compairison.
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Actually, Kalei, that analogy doesn't work well at all. First, an old bug still fufills the purpose of a car, that is, to get from point A to point B (or, in the case of the manga, to Entertain.) Next, One Piece is not a brand new Porsche (if any modern manga were deserving of being called that, it'd be Fullmetal Alchemist.) Instead, it's more of a roller coaster: fun as hell, but always the same when you ride it, just with different passengers.

Mog

A Porsche is also the same each time you ride it, and most of the time you won't even have new passengers…

Although I absolutely love Fullmetal Alchemist, I still think One Piece is better, so perhaps it's best not to bring other series into this this discussion too much, eh?

Himizujin_Eternia

Aaah, but a Porsche goes all over, sees many things, it can try new stuff, wheras a Roller coaster can only stay on a set of tracks, with little risk actually taken. While it's falls may seem dangerous, it always pulls out at the last minute, not following through with the danger. One Piece is a Roller Coaster, not a Porsche.

Again, this isn't bad, Roller Coasters are fun, as is One Piece.

As for FMA (and I refer to the manga, not the anime)… it's better than One Piece. Simple as that. I'm not gonna go into details, but it succeeds at being a "Porsche."

Mog

Listen… That's entirely, 100 percent subjective. Just because you think it's better doesn't automatically make it so. Stating your personal opinions as being the truth is rather arrogant, in my opinion.

Sooo... Can we just get back to the topic at hand?

Himizujin_Eternia

Ahh, yes, point to Mog.

So, back on subject, all I was trying to say is that One Piece isn't risky enough to be more than a Roller Coaster. It's fun, it's exciting, but it's neither original or unique. Although it stands out from other SJ series, it's been following it's own formulas for seven years now.

Akumashogun

I like both series. But OP is better than Naruto. Naruto has seen a decline in quality, which it is slowly getting out of, whereas One Piece is getting better and better.

Water 7 beats the crap out of Save Sasuke.

Yeah, what'd you really expect us to say, Rody

Yeah big mistake.
But, there may be people here that like Naruto more than OP, there isn't any proof that OP is their favorite anime/manga series just because they hang out in AP, of course it's probably of 98% the users, but still there may be a guy or two that hang here just because of the nice discussions and ideas of the story development. ^^

But still, a big mistake…

Hmm not that big if you think about it. Coz I was expecting this type of answers, I just wanted more preciselly arguments of why OP is better than Naruto. And to convince myself that what I thought was correct,OP have a better character development.

Himizujin_Eternia

Actually, if there's one thing I will argue AGAINST, it's that OP has better development. Because frankly, it doesn't. It has great backstories, but it doesn't develop characters outside of that. Naruto has better character development than OP, at least it TRIES to grow characters after their introductions.

What OP does better is it's stories. Although they all follow similar themes, they're incredibly well told.

It's a silly question to ask on a forum dedicated to One Piece really - you'd be better off asking it in a general anime forum, or some place like that, because everyone here is more likely to be biased towards One Piece.

I can't really pick between the two, though since One Piece is less well known to western fans, the fandom isn't quite as insane, but that's just a question of numbers. One Piece has more comedy than Naruto, and is generally a little bit sillier. Naruto is mostly drama with the occasional funny moment. It just depends on what your taste in anime is, or what mood you're in - at the moment I'm in a One Piece mood, but when I get a bunch of episodes to watch from my nice friend with the broadband connection, I'll be in a Naruto mood. The only thing I will say more in One Piece's favour is that it always comes across as rather original in certain areas.

I do agree with Himizujin_Eternia on the character development thing though. Other than getting stronger or more skilled, One Piece characters don't change overly much…though you can't expect people to always change. Some people don't and the cast of Naruto are mostly pre-teenagers who are still developing mentally as well as physically, while One Piece's heros are mainly late-teens or in their early 20's, so unless something pretty major happens, they're already pretty much set in their ways.

Blah… I really dont know how I missed this.

Some narutard pissed you off and so you take the other extreme position and start bashing Naruto. Please refrain from having other idiots turn you into an idiot Rody.

You admit to know very little about Naruto and put forward no valid criticisms. All you have done is bash, which is against AP forum rules.

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