"Kawaii", huh O______o
Talk about some bad insults there?
You're far more like being the "desu-desu" fangirl type then myself.
Seriously, FFF O_o
I'm sorry, but I don't have time to go look up all the screw ups Viz made, I've only checked Vol. 25 because a friend got it.
I'm pissed about each and every screw up they made, including Zolo and the laughter cut offs. It's just fresh from the baking and I think it's about right time to make a complaint now :/
@The:
Something sounds off, here.
How so? That person is Russian, so if they don't like the English translation, then they should support the Russian translation. And if not, they should just stick to the shit-tastic scanlations.
@ZeArmyOfHalen:
Fuck this, I'm gonna go kill myself and post pictures on Myspace/FB
Will you drop any good loot?
@Mikey:
How so? That person is Russian, so if they don't like the English translation, then they should support the Russian translation. And if not, they should just stick to the shit-tastic scanlations.
Ohh, my mistake.
@Al!naJames:
"Kawaii", huh O______o
Talk about some bad insults there?
You're far more like being the "desu-desu" fangirl type then myself.
Seriously, FFF O_o
Wow, no sarcasm detector available in Russia, eh?
@Al!naJames:
I'm sorry, but I don't have time to go look up all the screw ups Viz made, I've only checked Vol. 25 because a friend got it.
I'm pissed about each and every screw up they made, including Zolo and the laughter cut offs. It's just fresh from the baking and I think it's about right time to make a complaint now :/
No, it's time you hush up, and back off.
You wanna complain, then do it over the whole package, and don't turn rabid fangirl over VIZ for your only obsession.
I think if you were romanizing his name for the first time, you'd agree that ogaa looks much closer to ''ogre'', than anything German.
But they did name Luffy a MONKEY, and not "monky", which sounds much closer to "mon-ki"! :////
Seriously. They need to get a brain or attend school before trying to pull a comics translation.
And I'm going to complain about the whole thing :/
As I said, the Vols. 25's just been out and that's why I'm bringing this up at this very moment. I ain't gonna come back at that in 10 years time :/
And why do you keep going "Russia this", "Russia that" on me? I'm not making "America here", "America there" attitude, no?
@Mikey:
How so? That person is Russian, so if they don't like the English translation, then they should support the Russian translation. And if not, they should just stick to the shit-tastic scanlations.
I'll stick to the FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC Japanese volumes and help them sell even more then they do now, thanks for your wise advices :/
Thank God we do not have official releases here.
@Al!naJames:
And why do you keep going "Russia this", "Russia that" on me? I'm not making "America here", "America there" attitude, no?
Thank God we do not have official releases here.
Okay then, so this really isn't your problem. While you're at it, you should go bash the German translation on a German message board.
Hehe…this topic is fun... XD
@Al!naJames:
But they did name Luffy a MONKEY, and not "monky", which sounds much closer to "mon-ki"! :////
I will facepalm later.
Next time you wanna go rabid fangirl, just e-mail VIZ instead of embarrassing yourself here.
@Mikey:
Okay then, so this really isn't your problem. While you're at it, you should go bash the German translation on a German message board.
I don't speak German, thus I'm not capable of seeing if their work's any good or not. But I do speak English and I do care :/
I have a few early Viz OP volumes and I'd tottaly support them and buy their new books if they did a proper job >_< Goddamnit!
@dirt:
I will facepalm later.
Next time you wanna go rabid fangirl, just e-mail VIZ instead of embarrassing yourself here.
The ones embarrassing themselves here are people who are happy about what Viz does :/
@Al!naJames:
I don't speak German, thus I'm not capable of seeing if their work's any good or not. But I do speak English
@Al!naJames:
But they did name Luffy a MONKEY, and not "monky", which sounds much closer to "mon-ki"! :////
According to this, you don't speak English either.
@Al!naJames:
The ones embarrassing themselves here are people who are happy about what Viz does :/
Actually, that's the people who have never read ANY of my posts about VIZ.
I just don't want to hear some yaoi fangirl wangsting over NAMING RIGHTS from the leftovers of 4kids.
get out
Excuse me, A YAOI FANGIRL?
The talk's over, I guess.
It's been over.
kthxbainao
@Al!naJames:
But they did name Luffy a MONKEY, and not "monky", which sounds much closer to "mon-ki"! :////
Seriously. They need to get a brain or attend school before trying to pull a comics translation.
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Did I miss the catfight?
To bring out a lurker takes a lot of fail, but that MONKEY, monki thing is really sad.
@Kairouseki:
Did I miss the catfight?
nods…............. :ninja:
Dibs on that amazing post
@Al!naJames:
But they did name Luffy a MONKEY, and not "monky", which sounds much closer to "mon-ki"! :////
kthxbai
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Ktx bie.
Al!na doesn't understand the fact that names from 4kids were more or less FORCED onto VIZ's translations.
Stupid point is moot, stupid.
Oh Kamidammit! i missed a fight again :P
why is it bad to be a yaoi fangirl again? xDD
I think of Yaoi as the scum of the earth, but that's me
Some people might think of it as God's greatest gift
Atleast there aren't any yaoi fanBOYS around here… ..right?
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Um, I just want to go back to the awkwardness thing…the Viz translation isn't awkward unless you consider psuedo-curses in place of curses awkward.
When 95 - 98% of the dialogue is exactly the same as the fan translations online, and the artwork is the same, I don't really think you can say they're much more awkward....maybe if you're extremely nitpicky and want to whine about the 3 - 5% change from the original.....but that's your problem.
So, the thing I've noticed on this thread is that people like excuses. No one is willing to treat the Viz releases as something that can stand on its own. People are supporting Viz basically on principal, when Viz is making translation decisions that many people here have a damned good right to be upset about on principal. It's hypocritical and stupid.
The Viz translation being awkward or not is completely subjective, so don't just say "it's not". Compared to Stephen's translations I've never been as fond as Viz's, and I never even had to pay for the former. This wasn't really a problem until Skypeia, where I found myself getting caught up on lines that just…felt wrong. This may just be me, but apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so. I guarantee you've never seen a line-by-line comparison or you wouldn't be spouting such bullshit. It says the same thing, basically, sure. It's the wording that counts. It's how the lines are delivered. The pseudo-swearing is fucking annoying. Please, tell me someone can at least relate to this. This is a petty complaint until it distracts from the reading. I can argue that the Skypeia volumes do.
On principal, I don't like how they've changed the names of characters based on real life pirates. Zoro to Zolo is one thing, but this has absolutely no excuse. It's not enough to really distract me much while reading, as they don't come up often, but on principal, it's disheartening, just as most of you will buy shit merchandise just because it's One Piece related (not going to lie, I do the same thing).
I don't CARE that Viz had nothing to do with Zoro vs Zolo, by the way. I don't care WHY. I just care that it sucks. I've gotten over it a long time ago, but honestly, I am so sick of excuses like "it's better than 4kids" because that's all it really is: an excuse. I read Viz for Viz. I don't care what's been done in the past, I'm reading this like it's standing on its own two legs. There are a lot of things that someone who had never read One Piece wouldn't get, and though that's not the case with me, it does make these releases of worse quality. I don't see how anyone can say differently. I don't give a damn what it used to be, the English releases are not perfect. When I sit down to read them, the only thing that manages to actually bother me every time while reading is the kami thing. They're great fun and I'm glad I bought them, because I love One Piece. But why should I care WHY things are the way they are? That doesn't make them any better.
But so many of you people are just defending Viz day in and out...and why? Because you're appreciative of the new release schedule? I know I am. I'm very happy about it. But that doesn't make these volumes any better on their own. The Kami thing really does distract me in my reading. As a single entity, without knowing the backstory, I would be confused as hell, and so many lines sound absolutely terrible. I don't like art edits of any kind even though Viz readers technically voted for the SFX to be in English and the signs aren't that obscene. I've been told by diehard Viz supporters that we'll "agree to disagree" and then my opinions have been ridiculed. I deserve to be, but only for my comment about 4kids' edits at least having comedic value. I still stand by that. They're so bad they're good in some cases. Yeah, a lot makes me cringe, but now that we have Funimation, we've got an alternative. I don't like being bitter towards the past, and I certainly don't hold grudges.
Also, ten bucks a pop. I don't like paying eight dollars for a book of any kind; I'm the sort who frequents library book sales for 25 cent novels and 50 cent hardcovers. The price jump killed me. So basically, I'm paying $10 for about 200 pages of One Piece of slightly worse quality than I could get online and I'm paying it merely because I want to support the series and I want to be able to read it on my hammock. I enjoy what I have and I couldn't really complain before Skypeia all too much, but tell me, am I really so wrong in not humping Viz's legs now?
@ZeArmyOfHalen:
Atleast there aren't any yaoi fanBOYS around here… ..right?
I just like things that make other people feel comfortable or disgusted, because I could say I'm not. There are limits… I hate gory images of humans, even if it's professional Photoshop.
Awesome rant.
Been said many times before but I think that this is the best of them all. I salute you sir.
@ZeArmyOfHalen:
I think of Yaoi as the scum of the earth, but that's me
Some people might think of it as God's greatest gift
Atleast there aren't any yaoi fanBOYS around here… ..right?
Shhh….Don't call them out :ninja:
Gezz… I wish I could buy the next volumes for next month, but I gotta get an 80 dollar book I would not enjoy reading for school. Bummer. I'm hurting right now.
Atleast I got pick up the Jump at least. How early does B&N stock them? I wanna get there before the kiddies steal the free trading cards inside, if any.
Really awesome rant
Seriously though I'm with you. The dialogue is awkward, the art edits are annoying, and the name changes are bad and you should feel bad for not caring.
I'm also with you on the whole "It's better then 4Kids". Look, 4Kids is no more (at least their version of One Piece), that means Viz is standing on their own and it's their own fault they choose to do this. Not 4Kids.
@ZeArmyOfHalen:
At least there aren't any yaoi fanBOYS around here…..right?
Not that I know of. >_>
Anyways, now that the speed-up has begun, I really need a new job at a bookstore for job money and employee discount to collect One Piece. I should've collected some from Waldenbooks when they had their "Out of Business Sale".
Wow, what an argument I missed!
I should feel bad for not caring….?
Right. >_>
I'm gonna just make one comment on that Rant.
Changing the way a real pirate's name is supposed to be written does not mean they screwed up the translation. If Oda never wrote it out, then we don't have an official spelling.
Oda never wrote "Gan Fall" on anything, and "Ganfor" fits the Katakana, stop complaining about it.
Oda never wrote "Marshall. D Teach" on anything, it's a one letter change, stop complaining about it.
We don't call Zoro "l'Olonnais Zoro" do we? No, we call him "Roronoa Zoro" because, even though he's based on "François l'Olonnais", Oda mixed his name up. If Oda himself can do it, why can't Viz make one or two little changes to a few names (Like "Teach" becoming "Teech")
We also don't call Ace "Portugues D. Ace" do we? he was based on Bartholomew Portugues.
And another thing, some of the people complaining about this ALSO complained that ""Donquixote Doflamingo" was changed to "Don Quixote Doflamingo". They spelled it exactly the same, they only added a space in there, and That actually made Doflamingo's Name CLOSER to his actual namesake, yet people complained about this too? Why?!
Unless Oda wrote it, there is no "Wrong" spelling as long as it still matches the Katakana.
Other than that, I actually agreed with the Rant more or less, and I'm glad I have my Tankobon!
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I have my health and education to worry about rather than putting so much energy into this fandom. Especially on board where Viz Media would never get my message. If anything, it's just endless turmoil among fans rather than the big picture.
Yes, I know. These things are to be expected on AP.
I have my health and education to worry about rather than putting so much energy into this fandom. Especially on board where Viz Media would never get my message. If anything, it's just endless turmoil among fans rather than the big picture.
Yes, I know. These things are to be expected on AP.
Simply read and be merry!
edit: Viz confirmed Sogeking is Sniperking. Not sure if there was an official confirmation stated before.
Oh great, now someone's gonna bitch about that as well
SNIPERKING!? DAMMIT VIZ BURN IN HELL WHY DIDNT YOU KEEP THE NAME SOGEKING EVEN THOUGH SOGE MAKES NO SENSE TO SOMEONE WHO DOESNT FAP ALL DAY TRYING TO LEARN JAPANESE LIKE A HUGE WEEABOO
Simply read and be merry!
edit: Viz confirmed Sogeking is Sniperking. Not sure if there was an official confirmation stated before.
Where did they confirm it?
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Yeah I'm bracing myself for the tirades that will soon be upon us.
@ Demon Rin
Viz's Facebook confirmed it.
Just reading it is not enough for me. The best I could do is keep writing them along with the stuff I send every now and then. At least I feel like I'm getting a message somewhere.
Gotta write them agian after I read through the next 4 volumes. Should be good or bad depending on how exited I feel by the arc's finale. I was about to send one after Alabasta, but I don't even want to touch related to Alabasta for another 10 years.
Eh, it's an accurate translation of the name. My only qualm would be what they plan to do about the wanted poster. Editing one letter is one thing, editing a whole word is another. And they'd have to edit the whole word for it to fit on the poster with 2 more letters.
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Maybe they'll simply leave "Sogeking"? The art edit will be pretty muddy, like you said.
In the preview for April's jump, the showed the sticker and it said Sniperking. even the cross word had sniperking. There nothing wrong with it, other than two letters. After all, it fits "Sniperking, king of snipers," or even "Sniperking, king of sharp shooting." I don't see why everyone is getting all bent out of shape. Besides, we hardly ever see the wanted posters, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal.
