Which 3 episodes did he direct?
he was one of 2 directors of the mini-arc after zou, he handle the management side of direcots role while Satoshi Ito handled the creative side
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A Study of One Piece Animation
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I was wondering if you guys could explain some of the changes made to the anime after the timeskip. It's very easy to notice that skin tones are more monotone and colors are more washed out; everything seems brighter.
What were some of the decisions behind these changes and is there anything else that is notably different after the timeskip?
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color designer, Character designer, and series director have been changed few years before timeskip, however the master character settie and color settie already have been made for the crew by the old staffer, but since the crew members appearance have been changed after 2 years, they start designing them as a new characters. -
Read 2 pages back, Luffy has a different skin tone only in the new scenes in the opening sequence but I think that's about it.
Unrelated but in case anyone missed:
EDIT: Update, watching 681 and already 2 shots with blood have been censored. Is this just because of the terrorists events that occurred at the same time, or do they purposely remove blood for broadcast? I distinctly remember Dressrosa lacking a lot of bloodโฆ
http://i.imgur.com/BPfKHNy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/w2nhuOS.jpg
Would love to see some more comparisons like that.
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I'd love to make more, unfortunately I'm having trouble finding old RAW files.
Why don't you use HorribleSubs/Crunchyroll videos?
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Why don't you use HorribleSubs/Crunchyroll videos?
I need previous opening sequences which were updated for both the home video release and stream.
For Dressrosa a string of 3 episodes (679 to 681) are uncut only for the home video release, the stream shares the same footage as the broadcast. From 862 on there is no moving blood up until 689 when blood comes from Ucy's mouth after being attacked by the Doffy clone.
In a specific scene during episode 690 after Dellinger attacks Suleiman, he licks his lips but there is no blood. Both versions are the same but seems odd comparing with the manga. I think the animators would told to tone it down, though the anime doesn't include much flying blood a lot at time anyway. The outcome may have been the same.
What's really strange is that 40 episodes later (721) there is just one shot that is different that shows less detail to what remains of Law's severed arm, you could argue that it looks less graphic on the home release and it makes no sense why it edited. If it isn't censorship, maybe they forgot to save the episode's project file correctly? lol
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Y'know I just noticed this re-watching the newest episode but Yusuke Isochi's style seems to be the successor to how Eisaku Inoue drew the characters. The oval like shape of the faces an way he draws the eyes gave me that impression.
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Speaking of old Raws, can anyone find good HD raws of opening 6 from TV broadcast? There's an animation retake that was lost in the home media versions.
TV Broadcast: @0:54 Nami approves gives an OK sign and Sanji dances with hearts. Chopper falls out of the tent like a spaz.
DVDs, Crunchyroll, Funimation, etc: @0:54 Sanji remains bowed for the entire scene and Nami sits up slightly. Chopper was never seen again.
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This is when you can really tell Toei has been messing around with filters, couple of things to note:
- 3D animation frame rate doesn't match 2D, causes blurring on ships.
- There's no filter on Sunny when the opening first airs, which means the ship has the old color palette?
- Filter is placed over 'ONE PIECE' at the very end so you can see how bland it makes the anime to this day.
We rarely get to see a natural black so yeah it ends up looking less vibrant. http://i.imgur.com/4h2xXze.png http://i.imgur.com/5g2eBzU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/A9PC4cy.jpg
Any experts know if and when Toei changed the frame rate for rendering the show? I vaguely remember something happened between Thriller Bark and Marineford, episiodes that are upscaled look much better in full HD. I'm not sure if a change in production had anything to do with this.
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This is when you can really tell Toei has been messing around with filters, couple of things to note:
- 3D animation frame rate doesn't match 2D, causes blurring on ships.
- There's no filter on Sunny when the opening first airs, which means the ship has the old color palette?
- Filter is placed over 'ONE PIECE' at the very end so you can see how bland it makes the anime to this day.
We rarely get to see a natural black so yeah it ends up looking less vibrant. http://i.imgur.com/4h2xXze.png http://i.imgur.com/5g2eBzU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/A9PC4cy.jpg
Any experts know if and when Toei changed the frame rate for rendering the show? I vaguely remember something happened between Thriller Bark and Marineford, episiodes that are upscaled look much better in full HD. I'm not sure if a change in production had anything to do with this.
So, the new color palette is just a filter?
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They use is a new color palette (timeskip) for all the characters, but my theory is that they add a filter on top of all that too. If the information I'm going by is correct then they still upscale animation from 720p but they do so differently (still trying to figure out when the switch took place), which means another filter makes all the outlines and edges softer when upscaled. Compare the two Robin images above.
So three things: color palette, contrast and brightness, upscaling.
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They use is a new color palette (timeskip) for all the characters, but my theory is that they add a filter on top of all that too. If the information I'm going by is correct then they still upscale animation from 720p but they do so differently (still trying to figure out when the switch took place), which means another filter makes all the outlines and edges softer when upscaled. Compare the two Robin images above.
So three things: color palette, contrast and brightness, upscaling.
It's definetely interesting. I have noticed everything seems a lot more brushed out after the timeskip. Good example: http://imgur.com/a/gL3I9 Although it may just be me, it seems the color palette has become more crisp and resembles pre-timeskip more since the start of the Wholecake Island Arc. I don't know if the change in staff has resulted in this, but it's definetely a possibility.
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The fishman Island screenshots and many other can't really be compared because they're using intentional blurry filters for being underwater/in darkness/etc. Toei didn't do that so much before the timeskip but yeah it contributes to the whole change of aesthetic..
Since WCI the color palette has changed slightly, it looks more vibrant, it's extremely hard to tell but yes I think they went for a color scheme between what they had before and after the timeskip. Blacks still aren't as dark as they should be so that indicates they're still using a filter of some sort. WCI looks more bright as a whole and the art so far is fantastic, in general they've went for a wider variation of colors for everything.
EDIT: http://imgur.com/a/9cVB3
Here's a comparison of HD streams, not from broadcast. Someone on this forum specifically said that even after the show went widescreen you still can't get better than DVD.
In HD it's a mixed bag. Much of the time the backgrounds are in full 1080p quality with details that you wouldn't see on DVD. However the character animation itself can take a beating and become pixelated when upscaled because it was drawn at a lower resolution, look at Luffy vs Lucci for example above.
So yeah Toei are rendering these straight from project files which is great for preservation, they could release these in 4K if they wanted, but of course the problem is that items drawn in the software will eventually go above their intended resolution and then more and more pixelation becomes apparent.You can see from the images what the black used to look like for characters hair, also the difference of upscaling methods between Impel Down and Marineford that gave everything a soft blur.
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Anyone know what I'm comparing and the differences you see?
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A Massive Attack! Mom's Hunger Pangs
One Piece Concept - French Fansubbing
http://onepiececoncept.free.fr - #OP-Concept@irc.fansub-irc.eu
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The new titles (788-791) JAP :
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788: Shuichi Ito
789: Isamu Takara
790: Toshio Deguchi (atleast he's doing the first forest chapter)
791: Yusuke IsochiSome pretty strong ADs for the next few eps, looking forward to it.
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788: ''A Large Attack! Mom's Hunger Pangs'' (Yoshihiro Ueda/Shuuichi Ito)
789: ''The Capital Collapses?! Big Mom and Jimbei'' (Yasunori Koyama/Isamu Takara)
790: ''The Empress's Castle - Arriving On Whole Cake Island'' (Tetsuya Endo/Toshio Deguchi)
791: ''The Forest of Sweets! Luffy vs. Luffy'' (Kentaro Fujita/Yusuke Isochi)I was hoping that Takara would do 791. Oh well. My heart did skip a slight beat when I saw Deguchi's name so close to that episode/chapter lol
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Seems like they're saving the final bit of Chapter 829 for Episode 789.
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788: ''A Large Attack! Mom's Hunger Pangs'' (Yoshihiro Ueda/Shuuichi Ito)
789: ''The Capital Collapses?! Big Mom and Jimbei'' (Yasunori Koyama/Isamu Takara)
790: ''The Empress's Castle - Arriving On Whole Cake Island'' (Tetsuya Endo/Toshio Deguchi)
791: ''The Forest of Sweets! Luffy vs. Luffy'' (Kentaro Fujita/Yusuke Isochi)I was hoping that Takara would do 791. Oh well. My heart did skip a slight beat when I saw Deguchi's name so close to that episode/chapter lol
Isochi is way better than Takara.
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Isochi Is Bad when it come to action scene, i remember him animating fight between violet vs doflamingo , but he can draw very well the faces
takara is good for both ( animation and detail of character draw) : he did some key in last opening : brook + chopper and franky vs marine
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Takara's smeary style lends itself very well to action scenes, of which that chapter had plenty of.
Also, I have a question for those more well-versed in this: is there any particular logic in the order animators are listed in in the credits? I've generally assumed it was the amount of cuts/work each animator did, but that doesn't always seem to be the case, like Tomita doing a few small cuts towards the end of this week's episode yet being at the top of the list?
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Isochi Is Bad when it come to action scene, i remember him animating fight between violet vs doflamingo , but he can draw very well the faces
How was Viola vs DoFlamingo bad? If anything it was decent considering the toll Film and heart of gold took on the series. Isochi supervised episodes 646,670 & 698 which were great in terms of action.
Takara is good for both ( animation and detail of character draw) : he did some key in last opening : brook + chopper and franky vs marine
His art is usually all over the place, sometimes very bad, and the animation in his episodes is choppy and slow. That bit he did in the opening was the best looking thing he has ever done for the series. Naoki Tate's Animation is fast and fluid while Tamara's is choppy and slow. They're polar opposites imo.
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Isamu takara is one the best animation directors to work on one piece and currently the best followed by Ito and ichikawa, is isochi is still great but just on nakatani level.
Isamu takara hyper detailed smear style is a treat to watch, the guy drawers some sato level muscles.
Best op animation directors in my opinion ever.
1.Katsumi ishizuka
2.esaku inoue
3.naoki Tate /isamu takara
4.noboru kozumi
5.hidaki naniwa
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Takara's smeary style lends itself very well to action scenes, of which that chapter had plenty of.
Also, I have a question for those more well-versed in this: is there any particular logic in the order animators are listed in in the credits? I've generally assumed it was the amount of cuts/work each animator did, but that doesn't always seem to be the case, like Tomita doing a few small cuts towards the end of this week's episode yet being at the top of the list?
it's based on amount of work including LOs as well. it can be that he did LOs for other animators or just draw lowkey still shots beside his notable scenes
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Couldn't find any broadcast footage other than fansubs. If anyone can find broadcast RAWs let me know.
Maybe it's encoding, but was a contrast or brightness filter applied from 431 onward? Look at the skintone. (Top right is 430, bottom left is 431)
http://i.imgur.com/tSb4lKR.jpg
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Should I create a separate thread for animation comparisons? I need sleep.
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You guys know a place where I can find some of the old Character Reference Sheets for One Piece? I'd love to study the differences between Kazuya Hisada and Noburo Koizumi in more detail, if possible.
Something like what they're holding here:
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You guys know a place where I can find some of the old Character Reference Sheets for One Piece? I'd love to study the differences between Kazuya Hisada and Noburo Koizumi in more detail, if possible.
Something like what they're holding here:
This site might prove useful: http://artbook-passion.com/2012/03/22/menu-model-sheet-one-piece/
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This site might prove useful: http://artbook-passion.com/2012/03/22/menu-model-sheet-one-piece/
Exactly what I was looking for, cheers man!
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the current opening prologue has been updated starting from #788
now we can see Mama face clearly !
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now :
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Dialogue heavy arc, but it had some cool sakuga moments.
Zou Sakuga MAD
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That Neko/Jack scene Tomita did makes me think he's being inspired by Shida's work.
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the current opening prologue has been updated starting from #788
now we can see Mama face clearly !
Before :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAHGn_yUwAMD4v0.jpg
now :
And yet they forgot Blackbeard's jolly roger on his tricorn both times.
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While One Piece does have some staff members who do it no favors, anyone who says it has shitty animation should be forced to watch Kaido's entrance followed immediately by Super Shenron's summoning in Dragon Ball Super since they aired around the same time and had a massive quality gulf between them.
Also, recently a number of World Trigger clips were uploaded to sakugabooru and one of them was by Koizumi and it was interesting to notice that his work still had all the same design quirks (thin and angular with sharp shadows) he had developed by the end of his tenure on One Piece. Also, it was kind of weird seeing Tomita animate on non-One Piece showsโฆthough it looks like he's a perv regardless of what he's working on, heh.
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Oh yeah, while it's going to be a while, those who've said recently that we could use another animation director comparison chart are probably going to like something that I've started working on recently.
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Dialogue heavy arc, but it had some cool sakuga moments.
Zou Sakuga MAD
Great job. Your Dressrosa vid got taken down from Youtube. Is there anywhere else I can watch it?
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Place your bets. Is [AlphaMale/AlphaBro, an obvious ban evader] going to get banned again today, tomorrow, or in a week?
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okay let's bet . Would love to see your losing face next week !
An actual bet and conversation on the Chapter 905 thread, literally an hour before he got banned again.
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Great job. Your Dressrosa vid got taken down from Youtube. Is there anywhere else I can watch it?
thanks. You will find it here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-vwsteZVcZNa0Q4YUdYVjRaLTA?usp=sharing@crossword, looking forward to it. It's been a while since the last chart.
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the current opening prologue has been updated starting from #788
now we can see Mama face clearly !
Before :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAHGn_yUwAMD4v0.jpg
now :
lol, why does Kaido look like a blind old geezer ?
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Dialogue heavy arc, but it had some cool sakuga moments.
Zou Sakuga MAD
I didn't know how's how before and I will never know while watching, but after seeing this comparison I liked Tomita the most for some reason.
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thanks. You will find it here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-vwsteZVcZNa0Q4YUdYVjRaLTA?usp=sharing@crossword, looking forward to it. It's been a while since the last chart.
Thanks
I hope you will make One Piece Film Gold Sakuga, can't wait I really love your Dressrosa video from youtube. -
That Super Shenron summoning scene in DBS was the worst thing I've ever seen.
If anyone here knows where to hook me up with original broadcast footage of One Piece pm me.
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Dialogue heavy arc, but it had some cool sakuga moments.
Zou Sakuga MAD
Awesome stuff. By the way, can you give me the name of the soundtrack(s?) that you used in your OPFZ video?
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@Mo7ammed:
I didn't know how's how before and I will never know while watching, but after seeing this comparison I liked Tomita the most for some reason.
To make it simple Tomita and Shida are flashy and detailed, so most people prefer this.
Thanks
I hope you will make One Piece Film Gold Sakuga, can't wait I really love your Dressrosa video from youtube.Actually I'm almost done with it, just there is an issue with the last part of the film, we still don't know who did most of the scenes, we are waiting for Watanabe who was responsible for the final part to confirm the animators. So, I can't release the MAD until the main scenes are known.
Awesome stuff. By the way, can you give me the name of the soundtrack(s?) that you used in your OPFZ video?
GALNERYUS - Vetelgyus
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Dialogue heavy arc, but it had some cool sakuga moments.
Zou Sakuga MAD
Holy shit, I don't know if you did that intentionally and I never watch MAD's so I don't know if thats the point, but the music goes so well with some of the parts, especially shida's elephant scene in the end. It was such a fun watch! gave me goosebumps at some points. sweet job
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Holy shit, I don't know if you did that intentionally and I never watch MAD's so I don't know if thats the point, but the music goes so well with some of the parts, especially shida's elephant scene in the end. It was such a fun watch! gave me goosebumps at some points. sweet job
Thanks a lot. That's pretty much the point.
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For those who want to see a filter before and after the timeskip, please be aware it's dithered because it's a gif, but you get the idea.
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For those who want to see a filter before and after the timeskip, please be aware it's dithered because it's a gif, but you get the idea.
It feels way more severe than that. Take any picture from post-timeskip and increase its contrast and lower its brightness by 10. Voila; Pre-timeskip.
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