Finally caught up with season 3 and was satisfied with it. I see why people think it was the worst but it was still good. Also here's a teaser for next season.
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Fringe
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Video from Comic-Con I guess we know what happened to Peter
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Glad I found this thread but it seems like not too many are too into this anymore, eh? Just butting in to say that I loved the recent episodes, season 4 has been incredible so far -
! After all that has been built up over the last 3 seasons - suddenly, despite all somehow still existing, there is this constant feeling of all of it being wrong somehow, since it's still so different. Wow. Anyways.
! So it seems that Alt.Broyles is a Shape-shifter, and Nina Sharp, too?! Holy fuck. -
Yeah, there's only a few people on here that watch it seems.
! Yeah, I'm waiting for Broils and Nina to be outed as shape shifters. I really want Peter to get back to his time soon, because I want the story to continue. It seems that this coming episode will have a lot of reveals, since Peter's going inside one of the Observer's heads.
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Haven't seen the last two but it's been so/so this season so far. A billion times better than season 3 turned out to be though. Love the series to bits still though.
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I think this season has been quite exquisite so far thanks to all the mindfuck that you have to go through to try and understand how Peter must feel and how the hell all of that happened… Plus imagining those two universes that everything is set in at the moment must have come into existence completely thanks to Peter while the old two just... I don't know, are they still there!? Damn.
Anyways, good episode, tiny bit disappointed in the revelation of what the Observers actually are, but in the Fringeverse it probably makes the most sense - good depiction of "all times simultaneously" without making it too much of a random colour whirl. I like that everything isn't just being solved in one episode and there's a persisting problem that needs to be solved in the recent episodes. Good plot progression, too. Great series.
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Just to anyone who cares, since I realise not too many people around here watch Fringe, but the latest episode was pretty damn amazing - if they have planned out where this is going, it will be truly epic. Also, John Noble is an amazing actor.
! The sci-fi war between universes in the present is still the same, but in this episode, they jumped to 2036 where the Observers have taken over the planet and are controlling and monitoring the remaining humans in a massive dicatorship-esque setting, similar to Equilibrium. More than worth checking out.
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! I think the episode was really good but it seems weird to me that they go on this tangent and then the next episode they're back in the same story they originally were. There have been a few episodes like that. I feel the plot is already hard enough to follow with it being constantly interrupted for other stuff and then they go and do this. Like I said, I liked the episode but I felt they should have saved this until it came up in the main story instead of flashing forward and then immediately back.
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Dat new opening.
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! I think the episode was really good but it seems weird to me that they go on this tangent and then the next episode they're back in the same story they originally were. There have been a few episodes like that. I feel the plot is already hard enough to follow with it being constantly interrupted for other stuff and then they go and do this. Like I said, I liked the episode but I felt they should have saved this until it came up in the main story instead of flashing forward and then immediately back.
! Yeah I know exactly what you mean - are they jumping back already?! I hoped they'd stay for at least one more episode or so. Damn it. Apparently there's been a tradition though with introducing the "mind-bending" plot for the next season in the 19th episode or so. Anyways, I agree - good episode, but they need to know where they're going with it and not just leave it like this.
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! Yeah I know exactly what you mean - are they jumping back already?! I hoped they'd stay for at least one more episode or so. Damn it. Apparently there's been a tradition though with introducing the "mind-bending" plot for the next season in the 19th episode or so. Anyways, I agree - good episode, but they need to know where they're going with it and not just leave it like this.
I'm pretty sure they know where they're going with it. The fact that people want more of that story is tantalizing enough. I think they made the right decision with it
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http://thevoiceoftv.com/news-and-gossip/fringe-renewed/
Next season will be the last
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! They shot Astrid
. I hope she doesn't die. And I'm still confused about how Bell is behind all of this. I hope they clear it up at some point. -
! They shot Astrid
. I hope she doesn't die. And I'm still confused about how Bell is behind all of this. I hope they clear it up at some point.! Its only in the "original" timeline that Belly got stuck in the cartoon world thing after he took over Olivias mind. According to this alternate timeline, Belly supposedly died from a car crash which he obviously didnt do. Oh, and he seems to have cured himself of lymfoma. And yes, I wonder what his agenda is.
But I bet at some point, this Belly will turn good somehow, since he was with in amber with the Fringe team in the future. -
! Its only in the "original" timeline that Belly got stuck in the cartoon world thing after he took over Olivias mind. According to this alternate timeline, Belly supposedly died from a car crash which he obviously didnt do. Oh, and he seems to have cured himself of lymfoma. And yes, I wonder what his agenda is.
But I bet at some point, this Belly will turn good somehow, since he was with in amber with the Fringe team in the future.! Don't forget that he apparently did something horrible to Olivia though - presumably killed her, or at least something that made everyone else think she's dead. The problem with Fringe is that the actual "villains", wanting to destroy the universes, have to be insane to pursue that since otherwise there is really no superior gain for themselves in it! I liked how Bell sacrificed Jones though, it was pretty much implied when he talked about sacrifices to him, so I'm glad that became true. And I hope Astrid isn't dead.
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Season Finale in 2 hours!
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! I really didn't expect Walter to shoot Olivia. I probably would have preferred for her to stay dead just for the shock value, but it most likely wouldn't fit into the story (though was Olivia in the amber in the future episode that aired a bit ago?). I'm just glad her coming back to life wasn't some bullshit deus ex machina. Also it was creepy as hell when they brought that girl back to life to interrogate her, both eyes working independantly of each other.
I really hope they'll be able to wrap up the story in the 13 episodes they have next season. -
! I really didn't expect Walter to shoot Olivia. I probably would have preferred for her to stay dead just for the shock value, but it most likely wouldn't fit into the story (though was Olivia in the amber in the future episode that aired a bit ago?). I'm just glad her coming back to life wasn't some bullshit deus ex machina. Also it was creepy as hell when they brought that girl back to life to interrogate her, both eyes working independantly of each other.
I really hope they'll be able to wrap up the story in the 13 episodes they have next season.I read somewhere that that's all they need to wrap it up, and I'm glad they have the chance to give the series a proper ending - looking forward how it ties into the "future" episode we've seen. And no, she wasn't in it with the others there.
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They said they only need 13 episodes to wrap it up? If that's true then I'm really happy. I'd imagine that they could just skip to the future in the first episode of next season since we already know what happens. We don't necessarily need to see it.
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I totally love Fringe but I haven't watched it in a while and now you guys made me wanna watch it again~
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Glad we did.
Looking forward to the end of things. Really happy they gave the writers chance to finish the series properly, after all this build up…
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Anyone been watching the latest episodes? They're pretty different to how the show was before but I don't mind the change of pace. I'm really interested in what this plan is that they're trying to rebuild.
! And they just killed off Peter and Olivia's daughter :sad: . Peter looks like he's going to turn into an observer torturing machine by the looks of the next episode preview.
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! This last episode was easily the best of the season so far. Everything from Broyles to Etta's death to Windmark really becoming an awesome villain, this episode was awesome. I really have no idea how it will end now, I thought Etta would have a huge part to play in it all.
Oh, and this is just a theory, but I may know what their ultimate plan is.
! The only way to get rid of the Observers is to do exactly what Bell had planned to do, create a new universe. The machine that they're trying to build is the same thing Bell tried to do with the freaky animals. After September visited Walter in the last season finale, he understood that Bell was right all along, and is using his plan to save humanity. Just a theory, but I still like it.
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! So Peter now has observer powers. I wonder if it'll affect him the same way it affected the observers, taking away his emotions and stuff like that. I wonder what their setup is that kept tossing the antimatter grenade into the wormhole from doing what they wanted it to do.
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! So Peter now has observer powers. I wonder if it'll affect him the same way it affected the observers, taking away his emotions and stuff like that. I wonder what their setup is that kept tossing the antimatter grenade into the wormhole from doing what they wanted it to do.
! I think that his emotions were stripped almost instantly. When he said "I love you too" to Olivia during the end, he seemed very detached.
! And also, I have a crazy theory after seeing the episode literally 2 minutes ago. This episode was entitled "An Origin Story", so I find it plausible that maybe Peter is the very first Observer. And in order to stop the Observer invasion Peter has to be stopped. This would essentially make Peter the villain of the entire series, which would be a really bold move. -
! Oh wow I hope that's how they end it. I don't know if I'd like it better if they stop him or if they leave it kind of ambiguous but strongly hint that that's what happened. That's a really good theory.
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I hope Peter shows up bald and facialhairless next episode.
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! So the little kid from one of the earlier episodes was an observer. Wonder where he is now and what exactly this plan is. And that other observer seemed to freak out when he learned Peter has their powers. I really wonder what's going to happen because of this.
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! So the little kid from one of the earlier episodes was an observer. Wonder where he is now and what exactly this plan is. And that other observer seemed to freak out when he learned Peter has their powers. I really wonder what's going to happen because of this.
! I assume that the child in the pocket universe is supposed to be same kid from the first season. The actor playing him probably just got too old for the part. Anyway, my theory seems to hold up. He's turning into an observer more and more, it's definitely going to be fun seeing his development.
! One thing I find interesting is that from the second season episode "August", the hitman ordered by the observers to get August was named Donald. Some sort of connection? Who knows. -
! Peter is definitely turning into an observer, losing the hair and all, but he doesn't seem to be at any risk of going to their side. He seems more interested in revenge, which makes me doubt the prediction above that Peter is the first observer. It's definitely possible but I just can't see it happening right now. He's definitely losing his emotions and hair though.
Also, 3 weeks till the next episode. Bullshit.
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So, it's over. Anyone else watch the series finale?
! I liked it a lot. I knew that them going back in time was going to reset quite a bit, but I was thinking something would go wrong and Peter wouldn't exist anymore because September was the one who saved him and Walter from the lake. That seems like a sort of plothole but it doesn't bother me that much. Does anyone remember what that white rose that Peter got at the end stood for for Walter? I absolutely loved the end but I just don't remember what the rose is supposed to stand for since it's been like 3 seasons. I think it was a symbol that God forgave Walter but I'm not sure how that's supposed to apply to Peter. Anyway, fantastic show. I'm glad we got to see Fauxlivia and whatever the guy's name was that stayed behind back then again. I'm really happy with the ending too.
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So, it's over. Anyone else watch the series finale?
! I liked it a lot. I knew that them going back in time was going to reset quite a bit, but I was thinking something would go wrong and Peter wouldn't exist anymore because September was the one who saved him and Walter from the lake. That seems like a sort of plothole but it doesn't bother me that much. Does anyone remember what that white rose that Peter got at the end stood for for Walter? I absolutely loved the end but I just don't remember what the rose is supposed to stand for since it's been like 3 seasons. I think it was a symbol that God forgave Walter but I'm not sure how that's supposed to apply to Peter. Anyway, fantastic show. I'm glad we got to see Fauxlivia and whatever the guy's name was that stayed behind back then again. I'm really happy with the ending too.
! During the case with the man who tried to travel back in time to try and save his wife, Walter told him that he had been asking for a sign of forgivness from God, and that was a white tulip. Peck later drew the tulip and sent it to Walter, giving him the courage to tell Peter that he was from the other universe.
Anyway, fantastic couple of episodes. I wasn't really sure about this season, it really dragged during the beginning, but boy did it deliver.
! September returning, Windmark being one of the best antagonists of the show, all of the throwbacks to previous cases, everything has been spot on. I loved the ending as well, I just love the symbolism. The first time Walter stepped into a portal he almost destroyed a whole universe. The last time he did it it saved the entire world from extinction. Excuse me while I shed some tears for Walter, and praise one of my favorite shows for many years.
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! During the case with the man who tried to travel back in time to try and save his wife, Walter told him that he had been asking for a sign of forgivness from God, and that was a white tulip. Peck later drew the tulip and sent it to Walter, giving him the courage to tell Peter that he was from the other universe.
! Yeah, I remembered that it was supposedly a sign that God forgave Walter but I'm just wondering what giving it to Peter symbolizes. Maybe that he truly feels that he has been forgiven after doing this act? That's my best guess.
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! Yeah, I remembered that it was supposedly a sign that God forgave Walter but I'm just wondering what giving it to Peter symbolizes. Maybe that he truly feels that he has been forgiven after doing this act? That's my best guess.
! Yeah, I assume so. Him pretty much saving the world should make it so God forgets about his previous faults. Hopefully anyway.
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I still think Peter and Walter should have ceased to exist after they changed the timeline. No Observers, no Peter and Walter to get saved from drowning, thus no baby to "save". I actually would have liked the ending better if the last few seconds was Peter and Walter floating in the water motionless. Would've given that "WTF Fringe" moment.
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You might want to put that in spoilers but eh, not sure anyone that comes in here hasn't watched it already anyway.
! I was expecting that too. Was talking in irc about what would happen if they caused the observers to not exist, because you're right, September saved Peter and Walter. There might be some explanation that I'm overlooking but it doesn't bother me too much. Ending was still good.
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You might want to put that in spoilers but eh, not sure anyone that comes in here hasn't watched it already anyway.
! I was expecting that too. Was talking in irc about what would happen if they caused the observers to not exist, because you're right, September saved Peter and Walter. There might be some explanation that I'm overlooking but it doesn't bother me too much. Ending was still good.
! I'm thinking like this. No observer's mean that there's no September to interfere with Walternate, meaning that he'll spot the cure and heal Peter. Walter therefore doesn't cross over. So Peter lives happily on the other side, and Walter on this one, probably with Elizabeth.
