I don't think Chopper will get fight in this arc… Ever since he joined he got atleast 1 fight in every arc.
Chapter 369 "Ramen Martial Arts" Discussion
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For the fights , i'm sure that there would be more new opponent at eneas lobby and impel down or the marine hq (but i don't think that they would go to the hq cause it's the same as commiting suicide for pirates ! :lol: ) , cp9 soldiers were those who were in charge for that mission but i don't think they are the only strong guys around , i mean what if there are vice admirals , cp8 and other strong cp9 beside lucci ?
That's only a supposition but it's not impossible …...
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Originally posted by Solid@Jun 4 2005, 04:00 AM
I don't think Chopper will get fight in this arc… Ever since he joined he got atleast 1 fight in every arc.
[snapback]62159[/snapback]…..Which isn't really a bad thing. He's had, what, four? Luffy's had over 40.
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People are talking about Sanji getting a bounty for fighting government officials, and he may, but if Luffy beats Lucci, wouldn't this be the first time Luffy ever defeated a government official too? Up until now, he's only beat pirates and criminal organizations (and Ener). If they survive Buster Call on top of that, and especially if they get out with Robin (and maybe Franky too? :D), the strawhats are going to be considered a world-wide crisis. :o If they had to be more on guard after the got the first bounty, they're really going to have to be on the ball after this.
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Yeah, no more slackin'. If things play out right, I think Luffy could hit 150 mil. and maybe Zoro or Sanji could get 100.
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He defeated Captain Morgan, then again, he was corrupt. If Franky beats up Spandam again, wouldn't that get him a bounty aswell? Giving him better odds that he may become the next member as he may want to stick with the straw hat rather than sticking around and endangering his crew?
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jun 3 2005, 12:30 PM
Yeah, no more slackin'. If things play out right, I think Luffy could hit 150 mil. and maybe Zoro or Sanji could get 100.
[snapback]62193[/snapback]I'm expecting the bounty to go way higher than that honestly. Just to cover up Crocodile's defeat, Luffy's bounty went from 30M to 100M. Now if he defeats the government's secret organization, and also survives a Buster call… i'm honestly expecting a minimum of 200M for Luffy. Dear I say even 300M maybe :D
Zoro, Sanji and Robin, i'm really hoping they all break 100M, I think they're all worth at least that much.
The others... I'm not sure if they'll get bounties or not, but considering how easily Kalipha got info about the strawhats for Iceburg, I'd say the government may know more about the Strawhats than we originally thought (at least, more than I originally thought). I think it'd be cool if they all got bounties after this arc. They would become much feared pirates as they enter the second half of the Grand Line B)
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_Originally posted by Solid+Jun 3 2005, 09:00 PM–>QUOTE(Solid @ Jun 3 2005, 09:00 PM)__I don't think Chopper will get fight in this arc... Ever since he joined he got atleast 1 fight in every arc.
[snapback]62159[/snapback]perhps. but he'll still have enough to do with nursing everyone after the fights :D
Originally posted by freedom@Jun 3 2005, 09:36 PM
**Yeah, no more slackin'. If things play out right, I think Luffy could hit 150 mil. and maybe Zoro or Sanji could get 100.
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I'm expecting the bounty to go way higher than that honestly. Just to cover up Crocodile's defeat, Luffy's bounty went from 30M to 100M. Now if he defeats the government's secret organization, and also survives a Buster call… i'm honestly expecting a minimum of 200M for Luffy. Dear I say even 300M maybe :DZoro, Sanji and Robin, i'm really hoping they all break 100M, I think they're all worth at least that much.
The others... I'm not sure if they'll get bounties or not, but considering how easily Kalipha got info about the strawhats for Iceburg, I'd say the government may know more about the Strawhats than we originally thought (at least, more than I originally thought). I think it'd be cool if they all got bounties after this arc. They would become much feared pirates as they enter the second half of the Grand Line B)
[snapback]62199[/snapback]**nah 200 mio is too much for now. he's not as powerful as Ace yet :lol:
Zoro perhpas will break the 100 mio, Sanji won't as for Robin i don't know what ot think. her bounty stagnated fro 20 years .
how difficult is getting info about strawhats when you have bounty posters everywhere? :huh: and people fear the crew even if only their captain has a high bounty. :)_
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Originally posted by Majek@Jun 3 2005, 12:42 PM
**nah 200 mio is too much for now. he's not as powerful as Ace yet :lol:Zoro perhpas will break the 100 mio, Sanji won't as for Robin i don't know what ot think. her bounty stagnated fro 20 years .
how difficult is getting info about strawhats when you have bounty posters everywhere? :huh: and people fear the crew even if only their captain has a high bounty. :)
[snapback]62206[/snapback]**we don't know Ace's bounty… for all we know, it could be 500M LOL ^_^
but a simple increase of 50M wouldn't be relative to the 70M increase for Croc.. :huh:If no one else breaks 100M, i'd at least like Zoro to break 100M, but I really want Zoro and Sanji to have a really close bounty... like 110M for Zoro and 109M for Sanji, so they can constantly bicker about the bigger bounty...
didn't Kalipha also know how many members were on the Strawhat crew... or was i just imagining this? but, you're right, w/ Luffy, Zoro, & Robin having bounties, the info for those 3 is easy to find.
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I forgot about Captain Morgan, but it's true that he was corrupt and everyone was actually glad he was defeated. He was arrested as a criminal soon afterwards. CP9 are big time gov. officials, though. Their defeat will be an embarrassment and a major concern at the least.
I'm guessing Luffy will go up to 200 mil myself.
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Yeh, she knew there was seven members of the crew.
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but how many crewmember they have isn't a hard ot get info IMHO.
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Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jun 4 2005, 04:50 AM
**I forgot about Captain Morgan, but it's true that he was corrupt and everyone was actually glad he was defeated. He was arrested as a criminal soon afterwards. CP9 are big time gov. officials, though. Their defeat will be an embarrassment and a major concern at the least.I'm guessing Luffy will go up to 200 mil myself.
[snapback]62213[/snapback]**Yeah, and besides Morgan being a small fry, it wasn't even reported that Luffy beat him. Or not likely, anyway.
Beating a high ranking monster, stopping them from getting Pluton….
I see 200 mil. too, but I don't want Zoro to fall too far behind.Y'know, even though Luffy's an up and coming G.L. pirate, it seems like it's as hard as ever to find crewmates. Even a loser like Krieg had thousands at his feet.
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_Originally posted by CosmicDebris+Jun 3 2005, 07:40 PM–>QUOTE(CosmicDebris @ Jun 3 2005, 07:40 PM)I wonder what's going to happen when Rocketman hits the detached cars. Do you think they're going to end up pushing them all the way back to Puffing Tom until Rocketman is practically pushing the other train as well, or will the collision be too much?
[snapback]62131[/snapback]Well I doubt that it will happen but I would like to see Yokozuna ramming the two detached cars and making the way clear for Rocket Man. :D
Originally posted by Battle Franky@Jun 3 2005, 07:43 PM
Speaking of Corgi! Where the hell is he? :unsure:
[snapback]62136[/snapback]Corgi is in the same car as CP9. It was actually mentioned in the translation in this thread and you could see it on the first page where Calipha is talking to the agent that Corgi stands in front of Lucci. It was just the bubble that hid his face.
@Jun 3 2005, 08:31 PM
He defeated Captain Morgan, then again, he was corrupt. If Franky beats up Spandam again, wouldn't that get him a bounty aswell? Giving him better odds that he may become the next member as he may want to stick with the straw hat rather than sticking around and endangering his crew?
[snapback]62194[/snapback]__Strangely I have the feeling that Spandam will turn out as a corrupt agent too. I always had the impression that at some point CP9 will turn against him but since they are to loyal that could only happen if they are convinced that he himself isn´t loyal to the World Government.
Lets just see Spandam used the Battle Franky´s to attack the Shihousen (sp?). He attack actually people from his side just to be successful with his dirty plan. Not everyone one on the side of the Government would do that.
And then the scene at the beginning of chapter 365 where he´s so excited that Nico Robin and the plans for Pluton are on its way to him just somehow had the character that he actually wants them for himself instead of giving it to the World Government. I´ve got no evidence for that, it´s just some feeling I have. However if that would turn out to be true we would have the perfect reason for CP9 to turning against him. Just a thought anyways._ -
spandam is already corrupt, here from chapter 365:
Spandam: The world might be a big place,
but the two people in the world who hold the key to reviving the ancient weapons-!!!
Are riding on the Sea Express at this moment,
on their way to ME!!!
Enough power to destroy the entire world: mine…!!!
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
WAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HA!!
Achooo!!!
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While I know didly squat about "New Age" or "Revolution" It would be interesting to see a connection. Maybe Spandam wants those plans for his own or there's a chance that he's been bribed or a spy for either DonFlamingo or Dragon. These are just crazy thoughts coming out of my mind for the first time…so many things I don't know and so many things I would like to know.
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_Originally posted by Günther+Jun 3 2005, 09:30 PM–>QUOTE(Günther @ Jun 3 2005, 09:30 PM)spandam is already corrupt, here from chapter 365:
Spandam: The world might be a big place,
but the two people in the world who hold the key to reviving the ancient weapons-!!!
Are riding on the Sea Express at this moment,
on their way to ME!!!
Enough power to destroy the entire world: mine…!!!
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
WAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HA!!
Achooo!!!
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Yep, that was exactly the scene I was talking about. Thanks for quoting that Günther. Now go back and find that damn Spider-Man scene! :P ;)
@Jun 3 2005, 09:33 PM
While I know didly squat about "New Age" or "Revolution" It would be interesting to see a connection. Maybe Spandam wants those plans for his own or there's a chance that he's been bribed or a spy for either DonFlamingo or Dragon. These are just crazy thoughts coming out of my mind for the first time…so many things I don't know and so many things I would like to know.
[snapback]62248[/snapback]_Well I doubt that he spying for anybody. What Günther just quoted makes him appear more like he only cares for himself.
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Jun 3 2005, 04:11 PM
Yep, that was exactly the scene I was talking about. Thanks for quoting that Günther. Now go back and find that damn Spider-Man scene!no it stinks like shit on our attic, plus im to lazy to watch in hundreds of comics just for this one scene.
but you could search yourself on the net for it, im sure you could find it.
search for "the amazing spider-man" or "spectacular spider-man" series from i think the 70er to the 80er years.there you go. -
Y'know, even though Luffy's an up and coming G.L. pirate, it seems like it's as hard as ever to find crewmates. Even a loser like Krieg had thousands and his feet.
Well, so far, they've had a very small ship. Besides that, I don't think they really feel like they need or want a huge crew. Luffy's after quality, not quantity. ;) They're looking for nakama, not an army of peons.
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Originally posted by Günther@Jun 3 2005, 10:38 PM
**no it stinks like shit on our attic, plus im to lazy to watch in hundreds of comics just for this one scene.but you could search yourself on the net for it, im sure you could find it.
search for "the amazing spider-man" or "spectacular spider-man" series from i think the 70er to the 80er years.there you go.
[snapback]62329[/snapback]**Forget it, I´m to lazy myself. :lol: Maybe I´ll cheat here a little bit and request for help in another forum where I´m a member. But right now I´m to lazy to do even that. :P
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hey good idea, i ask in a more spider-man related forum for it.
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Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jun 4 2005, 06:45 AM
**> Y'know, even though Luffy's an up and coming G.L. pirate, it seems like it's as hard as ever to find crewmates. Even a loser like Krieg had thousands and his feet.Well, so far, they've had a very small ship. Besides that, I don't think they really feel like they need or want a huge crew. Luffy's after quality, not quantity. ;) They're looking for nakama, not an army of peons.
[snapback]62340[/snapback]**Yeah, but I'm suprised no one's offering to join. Like, he knocked out Bellamy, I'm suprised that none of the crew tried to make good with Luffy.
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Maybe a lot of these minions are just intimidated by the crew. I mean their combined bounty is no joke, so probably a lot of these guys just think that they are monsters who are better to stay away from.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jun 3 2005, 06:13 PM
Yeah, but I'm suprised no one's offering to join. Like, he knocked out Bellamy, I'm suprised that none of the crew tried to make good with Luffy.
[snapback]62383[/snapback]Luffy didn't really stick around long enough for anybody to kiss up to him after watching him squash Bellamy. Plus 100 million might have been impressive in Mocktown, but I think that's a town largely filled with low to midlevel pirates.
People will probably eventually offer to join his crew, especially as he grows more famous, but it'll probably be a place similar to Mocktown where pirates gather. The last few places that they have been in either didn't idolize pirates or had pirates that were perfectly happy in their own crew.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer+Jun 3 2005, 11:13 PM–>QUOTE(Buccaneer @ Jun 3 2005, 11:13 PM)
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He claimed them like that? I thought he went out to whack Bellamy for being a little punk. Shichibukai don't have crews, and he walked off alone….
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Maybe when they reach Enis Lobby, and beat Spandam they'll have access to the underwater prison. I would be dissapointed if there wasn't a reason for them to go there. (Like to free Robin, Franky and Sogeking.) Then they'll meet loads of pirates willing to join the Strawhats. (But I'll bet that Luffy probably won't take them because they don't have a Strawhat compatible personality.)
(And Buccaneer, they are SUPPOSED to walk alone, but that didn't stop Crocodile from forming Baroque works, and Doflamingo from interacting with his "former" crew.)
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Doflamingo didn't say much about the crew in general, he just straight up killed Bellamy, and probably Sarquiss, too. Unless I missed him saying something to the rest of the losers.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jun 3 2005, 11:31 PM
He claimed them like that? I thought he went out to whack Bellamy for being a little punk. Shichibukai don't have crews, and he walked off alone….
[snapback]62406[/snapback]I said it before and I say it again, give me the exact quote where it is mentioned that a Shichibukai is supposed to walk alone. The only thing we know is that a Shichibukai is a pirate who works for the government. So this already means that he didn´t stop being a pirate and we could assume that in the same instant they don´t get rid of their crews.
I think the only reason why everyone thinks that they walk alone is because the first two Shichibukai names were in context with doing things alone. The first person labeled as Shichibukai was Mihawk who´s a lone wolf. The second one we heard about was Jinbei of which we knew (or are lent to believe) that Alrong seperated from him. But that´s all. We actually never knew whether or not any in Baroque Works was a member of Crocodile´s pirate crew before. I doubt it myself, but you can´t deny that we just don´t know.
I don´t say what you said is wrong, but as long as we don´t get any clear evidence that says that Shichibukai aren´t supposed to have a crew, then your guess is as good as mine. :P
And as far Doflamingo is concerned.
- In the hotel at Jaya, one of the stylo pirates something about the New Pirate Era will begin shortly.
- At Maryjois Doflamingo says that business for him is going good lately which doesn´t please Gengok to hear.
- When Doflamingo tortures Bellamy and Sarquiss he says that he doesn´t need punks among HIS MEN!!!
- Right after that he announces to get prepared for the New Pirate Era (Aha!).
Seeing how Oda works, I don´t take all of that as an coincidence. Besides, Doflamingo is as much a stylo pirate as all the other guys who were at the hotel in Jaya. Actually it´s just Bellamy who never fit in there designwise and now that Doflamingo got rid of him we even know why…he was never meant to make it that far!
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Jun 4 2005, 08:04 AM
I said it before and I say it again, give me the exact quote where it is mentioned that a Shichibukai is supposed to walk alone. The only thing we know is that a Shichibukai is a pirate who works for the government. So this already means that he didn´t stop being a pirate and we could assume that in the same instant they don´t get rid of their crews.Just sense. I don't think everything has to be directly stated. Mihawk was alone, as was Crocodile (supposed to be), Jinbe broke away from Arlong, and Bellamy was quite obviously the new leader of that band. That's pretty much all of the Shichibukai so far (Bart doesn't count for much).
We actually never knew whether or not any in Baroque Works was a member of Crocodile´s pirate crew before. I doubt it myself, but you can´t deny that we just don´t know.
The word "before" implies that he didn't have a crew after becoming a Shichibukai.
- In the hotel at Jaya, one of the stylo pirates something about the New Pirate Era will begin shortly.
Even if Doflamingo is involved in that, it's obvious he's not supposed to be, what with it being a new "pirate" age and all.
- At Maryjois Doflamingo says that business for him is going good lately which doesn´t please Gengok to hear.
He says something about an island business, which is quite ambiguous. He also said his business wasn't going well, which is why Sengoku wasn't pleased.
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Darn you bring so many good arguments on the first part of my statement, but when it comes to the fact that the stylo pirates and the stylo Shichibukai both talk about the soon to start New Pirate Age you remain silent. What a disappointment. :(
Originally posted by Buccaneer+Jun 4 2005, 12:15 AM–>QUOTE(Buccaneer @ Jun 4 2005, 12:15 AM)
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jun 2 2005, 09:10 PM
With Sanji and Usopp infiltrating the Sea Train, Nami gathering the crew up and getting a new weapon, Luffy being Luffy, Chopper saving Nami, Pauly, and Ice, and Robin's whole ordeal, Zoro just seems like a bum. He just doesn't do much until he has no choice.hahahaha… I agree... But I like zoro just the way he is.
I just think it´s getting repetitive…he could be like Zoro, and fight against all types of enemies...well, just my thoughts.
Eeh? I think Oda likes some kind of repitition. You can always guess how Luffy and Nami, Zoro will react in certain situation although the plot surprises us many times.
Thanks for scan and translation! Great chapter again! Yay- sogeking!
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Darn you bring so many good arguments on the first part of my statement, but when it comes to the fact that the stylo pirates and the stylo Shichibukai both talk about the soon to start New Pirate Age you remain silent. What a disappointment.
I was just lazy. Right there, I'd go with what I said about it not being a good thing anyway. So even if they are working together for a new pirate age, the thing is that he's not supposed to be.
Nope he definitely says that it is going good and that that´s why Sengok wasn´t pleased. I´ll go by this version.
Ohhh. I must've misread it then. Well it could still make sense: he only came because he was bored. And considering the fact that he was playing around with the Marines earlier, that could be why Sengoku wasn't happy about it. The whole "business" thing wasn't very clear. And since Sengoku's number 1 at HQ, chances are if he knew about Doflamingo still being a pirate, he'd do something about it.
EDIT: Actually, in that script, he says "pirating." I don't quite get that one, as the whole point of making them Shichibukai is so that they're not pirates, isn't it?
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The whole ''New Age'' thing Doflamingo set up (Yes, I do believe he set it up, or is at the very least the leader of those who promote the idea.), is very likely against the government's ideas, but they just don't know about it.
However, I don't remember it ever being stated a Shichibukai shouldn't have a crew, and I see no sense whatsoever in assuming that.
From my point of view, it was rather obvious Bellamy was one of Doflamingo's men. Call me crazy, but I'd say that alone already constitutes as a crew.
Show me a quote where it's clearly stated that a Shichibukai is not allowed to have a crew, and I'll accept it. Right now, though, I just consider it something made up out of thin air. And therefore about as valid as claiming Carue's the actual mastermind behind the whole Alabasta ordeal.
… And why doesn't pirating make sense? They're pirates, after all.
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You might be right. But whenever it gets to this Shichibukai lone wolf vs. pirate crew discussions occur I think of what Crocodile said to Smoker when he was his prisoner. He said that the World Government believes in the Shichibukai. And right now even if Croc tried to double cross them I´m sure it is still like that.
If that´s the case it MIGHT be possible that they have great faith in who the Shichibukai chose as their subordinates.
And as far as Doflamingo´s island is concerned. I assume that is is Jaya he´s talking about. When he told Sengok about it, he didn´t knew that Bellemy is going to get humiliated. Sure he found out later and got rid of him because of that.
Another thing I´d like to share is my assumption on the whole good business thing. All those stylo pirates seem to be gathering there. Bellemy himself wanted to test Luffy to see whether he´s fit or not to be part of the New Pirate Era. If you go back at the Baroque Works arc you´ll remember that it was the old Mr. 7 who tried to recrute Zoro and not the boss himself. Which is only logic.
So same thing could be the case here. Instead of recruting all the guys himself, Doflamingo sends guys like Bellamy to do the dirty stuff. And all the guys who got recruted gather at that one island, dressing up in stylo clothes and making themselves ready for the New Pirate Age.Just an idea but if it turns out to be true you know where you´ve heard it first. ;) :lol:
Originally posted by Mog@Jun 4 2005, 12:38 AM
Show me a quote where it's clearly stated that a Shichibukai is not allowed to have a crew, and I'll accept it. Right now, though, I just consider it something made up out of thin air. And therefore about as valid as claiming Carue's the actual mastermind behind the whole Alabasta ordeal.
[snapback]62474[/snapback]Now wait a second…Carue was not the mastermind behind the whole Alabasta ordeal? That´s a little bit tough to swallow. :lol:
Just kidding, obviously I agree with what you´ve said in your post. If I somewhere get a explicit statement where it is said that Shichibukai are supposed to get rid of their crew I´ll be the first one to accept it and admit that I was wrong. You can quote me on that one!
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shichibukai are pirates that are legitimized by the government, so officially they're still pirates. the only problem is that it's the pirate alone who is legit, not his whole crew. if luffy were to become a shichibukai his bounty would go away, but that doesn't mean that zoro's or robin's would too. they would also need to strike a deal with the government. at least that's what makes sense to me…
ooshi78
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Originally posted by ooshi78@Jun 4 2005, 12:43 AM
**shichibukai are pirates that are legitimized by the government, so officially they're still pirates. the only problem is that it's the pirate alone who is legit, not his whole crew. if luffy were to become a shichibukai his bounty would go away, but that doesn't mean that zoro's or robin's would too. they would also need to strike a deal with the government. at least that's what makes sense to me…ooshi78
[snapback]62480[/snapback]**Just as I said above, Crocodile said the World Government believes in the Shichibukai. So they must also have trust in who they chose for their subordinates. After all if Sengok is aware that Doflamingo has some business going on at an island he must also be aware that he´s not doing business all by himself. Doflamingo is not a one man company so Sengok should know that Doflamingo has subordinates.
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the only thing the world government believes in with the shichibukai is that they can be bought out by money. if you look at sengoku's reactin to doflamingo you can tell he's got little faith in him.
ooshi78
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Jun 4 2005, 08:49 AM
Just as I said above, Crocodile said the World Government believes in the Shichibukai. So they must also have trust in who they chose for their subordinates.
[snapback]62484[/snapback]But Crocodile was also a hero to the citizens. Why would he be a hero if he could rob any of them at the drop of a hat and not be penalized?
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Originally posted by Mog@Jun 3 2005, 07:38 PM
The whole ''New Age'' thing Doflamingo set up (Yes, I do believe he set it up, or is at the very least the leader of those who promote the idea.), is very likely against the government's ideas, but they just don't know about it.I'd think that the New Era pirates would be more along the lines of what the Government would want myself.
I'd rather deal with a bunch of realists than with a bunch of dreamers myself if I have to fight somebody. The former will give up if you can bring enough force against them while the latter will go down fighting and will take a healthy portion of the Marines with them.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer+Jun 4 2005, 01:00 AM–>QUOTE(Buccaneer @ Jun 4 2005, 01:00 AM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@Jun 4 2005, 08:49 AM
Just as I said above, Crocodile said the World Government believes in the Shichibukai. So they must also have trust in who they chose for their subordinates.
[snapback]62484[/snapback]But Crocodile was also a hero to the citizens. Why would he be a hero if he could rob any of them at the drop of a hat and not be penalized?
[snapback]62503[/snapback]Easy, because he could do but doesn´t do it. That´s what the people consider heroic. Superman could also rob entire Metropolis, but he chose to help the people and thus becoming a hero to them. Same goes for Crocodile.
And that´s actually why he needed BW in the first place, so that they could all the dirty deeds while he was the hero of the people who got rid of piggy pirates. :D
Originally posted by Ubiq@Jun 4 2005, 01:03 AM
**The whole ''New Age'' thing Doflamingo set up (Yes, I do believe he set it up, or is at the very least the leader of those who promote the idea.), is very likely against the government's ideas, but they just don't know about it.I'd think that the New Era pirates would be more along the lines of what the Government would want myself.
I'd rather deal with a bunch of realists than it would be a bunch of dreamers myself if I have to fight somebody. The former will give up if you can bring enough force against them while the latter will go down fighting and will take a healthy portion of the Marines with them.
[snapback]62507[/snapback]**Actually it is the New Era pirates that take all what they can get while the dreamers sacrife a lot to achieve their dreams. At least Oda has written them NAP (New Age Pirates) like this that they would attack everything from what they expect quick treasure._
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Originally posted by Buccaneer+Jun 3 2005, 08:00 PM–>QUOTE(Buccaneer @ Jun 3 2005, 08:00 PM)
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If a guy well known for plundering was nice to me, I'd still be on guard.
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Well the majority of mankind is like this that they believe everything if you could just sell it in a convincing way too them.
And the first hundred callers will get this six steak knifes as a bonus! ;)
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Franky: Whats that behind you?
Nero: ?
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jun 3 2005, 05:00 PM
But Crocodile was also a hero to the citizens. Why would he be a hero if he could rob any of them at the drop of a hat and not be penalized?
[snapback]62503[/snapback]the countries of the world make up the world government that sponsers the shichibukai. obviously it's not ok for them to be plundering their backers…
ooshi78
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Crocodile's heroic acts were in part a guise to create a false sense of trust in him, by the people. If he had of successfully taken the throne, the rebels & citizens would've probably been accepting of him, as he would've been seen as a hero who helped over throw an oppressive king.
All part of the plan.
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Is it me? or does the conversation of the most recent chapter seem to change course for a subject not related to the current chapter? Right now we are discussing the Shibukai (and it is an interesting subject) One or two weeks ago we were discussing Japanese words used in English Manga, and we were discussing something else last week (but I forgot what it was.)
I find these conversations very provacative and engaging, but at the same time wonder how we got off course of Wanze's nose noodles and Sogeking meeting Robin, which I thought was what was going to be discussed, judging by the subject title. Or am I the only one who's thinking these thoughts?
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Originally posted by Onigumo@Jun 4 2005, 01:49 AM
Is it me? or does the conversation of the most recent chapter seem to change course for a subject not related to the current chapter?Yep, it always does so.
I find these conversations very provacative and engaging, but at the same time wonder how we got off course of Wanze's nose noodles and Sogeking meeting Robin, which I thought was what was going to be discussed, judging by the subject title.
Well, by commenting on the off-topic side discussions, you're kinda going off-topic yourself. The easiest way to steer the conversation back to the current chapter is to post something about the chapter. It's not like people are actively discouraging other posters from commenting on the chapter if they see fit.
At worst, a question will be asked that will have already been answered and the questioner will be referred to the earlier response.
Anyway, these side discussions usually only crop up after the page count hits the double digits, so the chapter has usually been thoroughly discussed by then by the people who have followed the thread since the chapter came out.
Or am I the only one who's thinking these thoughts?
[snapback]62667[/snapback]I think most people notice, but it doesn't really bother most people either. Maybe a mod or two, but who listens to them?
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something's also been bugging me. why is robin so afraid of the buster call? didn't she supposedly sink 6 marine warships when she was only 8?? how is having 10 warships any different than 6 especially since she has nakama now??