that makes me wonder what happen if a group of people eat the devil fruit at the same time will they all get the power. if thats true then yes every coater have a sky sky no mi
Chapter 511 "Sentoumaru and his Broadaxe" Discussion
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Only the first bite contains the power.
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@Shaman:
that makes me wonder what happen if a group of people eat the devil fruit at the same time will they all get the power. if thats true then yes every coater have a sky sky no mi
That's impossible to say if that's how they would coat ships as then there could be one generation of Coaters, and that is impossible as not each person would get the Power.
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Only the first bite contains the power.
but im talking about when they bite at the same exact time. ok better example twins eating the fruit at the same exact time. so will they both get the power
but isnt there a tree that produces a gum gum fruit every whatever years
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@Shaman:
but im talking about when they bite at the same exact time. ok better example twins eating the fruit at the same exact time. so will they both get the power
Milliseconds count. No one can perfectly do something simultaneously.
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@Shaman:
but im talking about when they bite at the same exact time. ok better example twins eating the fruit at the same exact time. so will they both get the power
Still doesn't sound right as then if you can cut it small enough you can get like 100 people with the same power, as for the Twins that can't be explained unless we know more.
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ok im talking about in the one piece world. so lets say in the one piece world that twins could eat at the same exact time. so will they both get the power
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@Shaman:
ok im talking about in the one piece world. so lets say in the one piece world that twins could eat at the same exact time. so will they both get the power
Well that is Practically Impossible for them to Syncronise to the Exact Millisecond but if they do then they may.
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not to be dis respectful but thats why i said the one piece world and it may follow the physics of the real world but there are times where is strays away and get really imaginative
i also want to ask a question, isnt there trees or things that produce devil fruits every certain amount of years
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If he just forces everything, Hawkeyes won't even have to attack. He'll just dodge and then wait for Zoro to self-destruct.
Yes, exactly. Change or implode.
I like this explanation (goes with Occam's razor**).**
Thanks.
Yes, it's a good idea to assume simplicity until proven otherwise.Further for sure Kizaru adds many damage to Zoro, but I don’t view that he is this much wounded like after Kumas attack, so I think he could be much fitter in Fishman Island than during the fight against the Pacifista.
But he isn't fully healed from his fight with Kuma, so this new wound will make his old wounds worse. It doesn't just replace the old wounds. Also, I think you might be underestimating his new wound – as far as I can tell, it's pierced his chest and gone all the way through to his back. Also, in the first picture, there's smoke rising from it -- this makes me think that Kizaru's laser can burn flesh as well as cut it. If so, that would be painful.
(Oh, and Stephen's translation confirms that the injury is to Zoro's chest, not to his arm, so ignore what I said previously about damage to his arm).
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@Shaman:
not to be dis respectful but thats why i said the one piece world and it may follow the physics of the real world but there are times where is strays away and get really imaginative
i also want to ask a question, isnt there trees or things that produce devil fruits every certain amount of years
But still with DF's it wouldn't be as simple as that IMO.
and Df's origins probably won't be discovered for ages unless they do say something sooner or later.
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but devil fruits are as simple as they come.
they come in 3 different catagories
whatever power they give they give.
it matters on how the user use it that the complexcity of the devil fruits power come into play cause users imagination could interpret the power in different ways -
@Shaman:
but devil fruits are as simple as they come.
they come in 3 different catagories
whatever power they give they give.
it matters on how the user use it that the complexcity of the devil fruits power come into play cause users imagination could interpret the power in different waysThe first part of my post was about how i don't think that DF's can be shared so easily, i wasn't saying they were complex there but i think they are as there's loads of questions to be asked and they aren't that simple as you think IMO as it could come down to the fruit or the person you don't know but anyway i'm not saying your wrong.
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oh sorry now i feel ashamed T-T WAIT WHATS IMO 0.0
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Luffy should have done a GEAR 4, it's lame that he was going to let Zoro die …. come on luffy, don't rely on old people to save your nakama...
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i dont think there is a gear 4 and if there is i dont think he knows it already but i really dobt he has a gear 4
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@Shaman:
oh sorry now i feel ashamed T-T WAIT WHATS IMO 0.0
Don't worry about i suppose i didn't state what i meant.
IMO means in my opinion.
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Luffy should have done a GEAR 4, it's lame that he was going to let Zoro die …. come on luffy, don't rely on old people to save your nakama...
I don't think he would've had the time (by Gear four do you mean 2+3 as if you do he didn't have the time).
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WAIT YOU GUYS COUNT GEAR 2 + 3 as GEAR 4
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yeah that was pretty lame how zoro was going to die…again and the rest of the crew couldnt do a thing, this admiral encounter should be another reality check for luffy and inspiration to become stronger so he can protect his crew.
Sentomaru = Shichibukai with Mantra?
I hope not....I wanted a female shichibukai, i guess they want intimidation....but chopper did say there was another one :(
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@Shaman:
WAIT YOU GUYS COUNT GEAR 2 + 3 as GEAR 4
I don't but i was saying if they do count it as Gear 4.
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yeah that was pretty lame how zoro was going to die…again and the rest of the crew couldnt do a thing, this admiral encounter should be another reality check for luffy and inspiration to become stronger so he can protect his crew.
Sentomaru = Shichibukai with Mantra?
I hope not....I wanted a female shichibukai, i guess they want intimidation....but chopper did say there was another one :(
If he was a Shichibukai he would've been introduced as such. He's Captain of the Science Division and Vegapunk's personal body guard.
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is it possible that vegapunk is in sontuamaru stomach 0.0 and thats why he is at the strawhats location cause hes fighting and protecting at the same time.
yes so im bored that im making up shit T_T
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(Oh, and Stephen's translation confirms that the injury is to Zoro's chest, not to his arm, so ignore what I said previously about damage to his arm).
I imaged that, because it fits Zoro if he gets hit on his weak points. I am happy that Stephen’s translation confirms it and I like this awesomeness.
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After seeing Sentomaru's fighting style, I have a feeling Luffy is going to somehow incorporate it in the near future in the same vein as he incorporated some of CP9's style.
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Luffy + Sumo = PWNAGE
Edit: GEAR 2 SUMO. Just think about it.
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is it possible that vegapunk is in sontuamaru stomach 0.0 and thats why he is at the strawhats location cause hes fighting and protecting at the same time.
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.....I'm actually upset I read that because that's a very interesting idea.....
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.....I'm actually upset I read that because that's a very interesting idea.....
Impossible. The image Kuma gives us of Vegapunk (minus his head) is of a very tall, thin guy. Sentoumaru is actually pretty damn short.
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Just a heads up my post contains swearing!
クソ野郎 is one of those things that doesn't really translate that well. I chose the words shit-head because it fit the tone, although it could have just as easily translated to bastard. It could be translated to a great number of other things as well. However it always needs to be translated to a 'hard' word. A word like jerk is too weak, and a word like mother fucker is too strong(at least in this case). It needs to be translated to a word that carries the same weight. Hope that clears things up for you.
I thought shit head was perfect. Sanji always uses the word shit anyway.
are there some chapters where time goes by like one chapter is 1 day and another chapter is either a few days later?
(this is what i get for only able to read the english novels,cant understand much of the series)There are indeed.
Longtime lurker here…
I don't know if this came up in a previous discussion, but does anyone think that the glass armlet that Luffy picked up on Thriller Bark might be useful or important in the near future? (Here, in chapter 486.) Oda made a special point of his acquisition of it, after all.
Here's a hypothesis: if the glass armlet is more like a prism or crystal, would it be possible to use it to "split" Kizaru's beams or deflect them in some way? It would interesting to see how strong Luffy's luck still is, though it seems a bit gimmicky.
Of course, Rayleigh might finish things himself.
It's possible, Oda's gone out of his way to draw the amulet on Luffy's arm in 511.
What I find interesting about the Borsalino/Rayleigh confrontation is that the Yellow Monkey wasn't even a bit surprised on being confronted by the Pirate Kings first mate. Did Garp tell him about it? If so, is he really after the Strawhats?
Is that not just a case of him not having the most expressive face? That said, he referred to Rayleigh as the final player, so i do feel he must have known he was there.
@Shaman:
i feel like nobody is reading my posts T_T, but just wanna know if any body think that maybe SHAKKY might come and back up ray since she was a pirate . im guessing shes powerful cause she was chased by garp who is known for chasing some powerful pirates. also i dont think he could protect the crew from three strong enemies by himself ( dont get me wrong i believe he is powerful but i dont think he could multi task). so im just guessing pirates of the past might show up and if it does happen it will be so cool. ill be pissing myself XD
It's perfectly possible to have Shakky come along, but in doing that, wouldn't she be risking the lives of those held up in the bar?
@Shaman:
easy just because you could manipulate metal doesnt mean your gonna win automaticlly and kuma also has some human parts in side so i think that tampers with kids ability
I'd say it doesn't give you the ultimate victory but it definitely puts things in your favour, that said, the PX-* with Kidd and Law hasn't been exposed as a cyborg yet and so i don't think Kidd realises that the odds of victory are so heavily stacked in his favour. We're also not sure if he can manipulate metal unattached to him.
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Impossible. The image Kuma gives us of Vegapunk (minus his head) is of a very tall, thin guy. Sentoumaru is actually pretty damn short.
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Kuma decribed him and we saw a rough imaginary sketch. It's not only possible, but downright likely that he may not even look like that and the sketch was simply to throw us off course.
If we're to believe all shadowy figures are supposed to represent EXACTLY what characters look like then Blackbeard would be much more thin, Doc Q wouldn't wear the hat he does, Jesus' arms would be thin as fuck, Lafitte wouldn't wear a top hat and Kizaru's head would be a fuck-ton smaller and either be wearing a hat or have a funky 'do assuming Robin named them in order, which in that image it made perfect sense to.
I mean consider that Vegapunk could also be a member of the dwarf race we saw mentioned on the auction list therefore he could be very tall….for his size.
Anyway, it remains that such logical speculation at this point is far from impossible.
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Uh, why do you bozos think Vegapunk is inside Sentoumaru? Sentoumaru even said he doesn't know "what to report to Dr. Vegapunk" after finding PX-4 taken down.
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Join Date: Aug 2008. なるほどね。
You'll probably come to find I'm not exactly a 'bozo' when it comes to One Piece, nor would I dare limit my imagination.
I seem to remember the last time people took a pugilistic stand against one of my own ideas.
"What are you nuts!? No way Zoro won that fight! Didn't you see how he fell from the roof?"
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Why would Vegapunk want to hide inside Sentoumaru? It's not like he doesn't have a secure fortress to hide his lab in.
I'd say Sentoumaru is what he is, not a robotic suit or a remote-controlled robot.
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Join Date: Aug 2008. なるほどね。
You'll probably come to find I'm not exactly a 'bozo' when it comes to One Piece, nor would I dare limit my imagination.
I seem to remember the last time people took a pugilistic stand against one of my own ideas.
"What are you nuts!? No way Zoro won that fight! Didn't you see how he fell from the roof?"
It's just some dumbass. Who gives a shit what he says about what you say?
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Why would Vegapunk want to hide inside Sentoumaru? It's not like he doesn't have a secure fortress to hide his lab in.
So you're saying he wouldn't be interested in collecting first-hand battle data on pirates of such infamy?
I'd say Sentoumaru is what he is, not a robotic suit or a remote-controlled robot.
Who said he had to be a robot? I thought it seemed quite clear that they were hinting at the possibility of cloning or at the very least some genetic engineering.
Here we go again folks. It's like last year alllllllll over again.
Person A: "ZYX can't happen because XYZ!"
Person B: "But no one ever said it had to be ZYX…"
Person A: "It doesn't matter, it's not possible!"
Person B: "What evidence do you have for that claim?"
Person A: "Nothing! It's just stupid!"
Person B: "Oh okay. So YOU personally don't like the idea. Okie dokie, I'll just let Oda know so he doesn't use the idea YOU don't like."
Submitted for nostalgic happy fun-time reading:
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So you're saying he wouldn't be interested in collecting first-hand battle data on pirates of such infamy?
Who said he had to be a robot?
Inside Sentoumaru, where he could potentially recieve injury? Besides, cooped up inside him, he's not going to get good data collected.
Also, all he has to do is have a recorder installed on the Pacifista, which he probably did. In addition to seeing how the Pacifista do in battle, he observes how pirates handle him.
And how would Vegapunk hide in Sentoumaru if there aren't any robotic parts in him? Hide as a parasite in his gut, and collect data that way? I don't think Sentoumaru likes that idea, since he's a person who doesn't get penetrated.
Another way of observation is an insect cambot. No reason why he can't.
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Uh, yeah, I joined this forum just recently. So what? And whatever meaningless crap you've mentioned before is also relevant how?
I don't care who you are. The idea was just plain dumb to start out with, and if that wasn't enough, already completely ruled out by Sentoumaru's own words. Do I have to spell it out for you? He already said he doesn't know how he's going to report what happened to Dr. Vegapunk. I.E., Vegapunk ISN'T THERE TO SEE IT. You're probably just upset because you thought the idea was unprecedentedly ingenious, not realizing you're just projecting what happened 30 chapters ago with Oz and Moria. lol, sad.
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Inside Sentoumaru, where he could potentially recieve injury?
You mean inside, in his own words, "…the most guarded man in the world..."?
Besides, cooped up inside him, he's not going to get good data collected.
I don't believe anyone said it had to be during the fights. He could just as easily seek to study their bodies.
Also, all he has to do is have a recorder installed on the Pacifista, which he probably did.
Sure…but....what does that have to do with him being there or not? He could easily do both for reasons we simply cannot imagine yet.
And how would Vegapunk hide in Sentoumaru if there aren't any robotic parts in him?
How can an object 'eat' a Devil Fruit?
How can a human be cloned and imbued with already existing DF powers when only one DF of a kind exists at any time in the world?
How can a man teleport?
How can a skeleton be living?
How can multiple people survive lightning blasts?
How can a human fall a hundred or so feet and survive only to get up and walk around moments later?
I don't think Sentoumaru likes that idea, since he's a person who doesn't get penetrated.
All except by the person he's supposed to be guarding.
Shall we continue this dance?
I'm not saying it WILL happen. But I happen to like the idea myself and it certainly is possible.
Uh, yeah, I joined this forum just recently. So what?
So in reading almost every post you've made thus far you've been a sarcastic troll.
He already said he doesn't know how he's going to report what happened to Dr. Vegapunk. I.E., Vegapunk ISN'T THERE TO SEE IT.
I'm sorry, was it ever confirmed he had to be conscious?
You're probably just upset because you thought the idea was unprecedentedly ingenious, not realizing you're just projecting what happened 30 chapters ago with Oz and Moria. lol, sad.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Hey, was Phenom….I mean Miracles banned recently? I'm getting a strong Miracles vibe from this twit and if so I need to uphold my vow of not responding to him.
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@MonkeyDMalcolm:
As far as Kaidou V Moria goes. We can simply state Kaidou fought Moria while in the new world fact. Moria lost his whole crew while in the new world. Moria perspective after going to the new world changed. He doesn't want the loss of his crew again. If you can't draw logical conclusions that Kaidou is the cause of Moria crew being lost then IDK what to say.
Your free to believe what ever you want, its your opinion, I'm just glad your not running up on me, like its a 100% fact.
@Don:
why is it necessary still to discuss about when all things are said:wassat: it
s not stated thats for sure but it
s the best guess which we could take in who killed morias crew…The guys I was arguing with was stating there best guesses/opinion's as fact. I was simple letting them know its not a fact. We all can be friends now.
@Jinbei.First of all, it seems that logic seems to go above and over your head.
Oh Please don't do that, You have the nerve to say Logic go above and over my head, yet you don't even take the time out to read what I am arguing about? Logic could never hope to make It to your realm.
You cannot expect everything to be bloody stated all the time in order for it to be a fact. Sometimes it's meant to be reasoned out and it's done so on purpose so as not to be spoon feeding.
I never said what I have put into bold. The guys I was arguing with stated there Opinions as fact, I asked them to show me where its stated or shown in the Official Manga. Even the guys I was arguing with admitted they are jumping to conclusions.
Second, so you're saying that Moria had this large crew, which got destroyed by some random disaster, and then he went to fight against Kaidou? Why would he do that? After losing your bloody crew you don't go fight against one of the four emperors.
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Utoom's next post:
*Utoom seething with anger, his hands fly across the keyboard in a fury. He makes multiple points that while logical, have no base that can't be reasoned out or certainly turned on their head. He does all of this while using words, phrases and punctuations such as:
"lol"
"!"
"Uh,"
"hell"
Utoom then goes on to make his vague point from the previous post 'clear' by explaining that Moria was in Odr's stomach. What Utoom doesn't realize is that Moria was never hiding and furthermore, he was literally controlling Odr by commands. This has nothing to do with why or how Vegapunk may or may not be within Sentoumaru.
Utoom then finishes his brilliant (to a kid anyway) revenge post with a sarcastic finisher that really shows Greg who's the boss.*
And in reponse to that, Greg is going out to do some shopping. Bye!
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Dude, you are freaking NUTS. Michael Jackson level. That nonsensical rant is something else. No wonder you can't think straight. FYI, simply saying something doesn't make it so. Try using logic, bud.
And way to completely ignore, for the 2nd time, that Sentoumaru's words completely rule out your amazingly dumb idea. Keep ignoring this, actually…you're a funny spectacle.
But, go and enjoy shopping to take your mind off being humiliated.
Oh, and if you are female (I honestly can't tell despite your male username) all the above makes -perfect- sense and I'll stop arguing right now.
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i never meant for this to be an arguement but whatever. i was thinking like it will be a comical thing like this:
vegapunk:wow this is an intresting fight (while eating popcorn):ninja:
sontoumaru: what the hell are you doing in there?:blink:
vegapunk:well you gotta protect me so before you left while you were sleeping i sneaked in your stomach. its cool huh its so cozy in here:wub:
sontoumaru: i dont care if its cozy, get out of there:wassat: and give me some of that pop corn:getlost:
vegapunk: go get your own:getlost:
while everyone just stares at them
vegapunk:what your acting like you never seen someone in someone elses stomach before:wassat:
while every one is like sure why not:ermm:you know something fun not something serious like some of you took it. it seems greg is the only one who got it while it just went over everybody elses heads
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Moria: I found the answer from personal experience.
Why did I lose all my powerful and useful followers,
after they became famous…?!!- Page 217 -
Moria: You lose your men because they're ALIVE!!
But if they're undead zombies to begin with, you lose nothing!!!
Zombies are immortal!! An unlimited army to draw upon!!!
And I will use that army to seek the title of Pirate King once more!!
You should be HAPPY you get to serve me as shadows!!!Where does it says they died? I think he is just saying his crew left him after they became strong and famous because they saw his stupid and weak captain loose to a really strong pirate. I think thats the reason he ran and created the Zombie Army, because any strong pirate wouldnt want to join him.
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Where does it says they died? I think he is just saying his crew left him after they became strong and famous because they saw his stupid and weak captain loose to a really strong pirate. I think thats the reason he ran and created the Zombie Army, because any strong pirate wouldnt want to join him.
you can't be serious
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Where does it says they died? I think he is just saying his crew left him after they became strong and famous because they saw his stupid and weak captain loose to a really strong pirate. I think thats the reason he ran and created the Zombie Army, because any strong pirate wouldnt want to join him.
No…no nononono. This can't be real.
Clearly you're just using some form of clever sarcasm to mock this subject. If so, then bravo good sir. You are a champion of satire and parody.
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You mean inside, in his own words, "…the most guarded man in the world..."?
Just because Sentoumaru shows that he's strong doesn't mean he's invincible.
I don't believe anyone said it had to be during the fights. He could just as easily seek to study their bodies.
But there is absolutely no reason he needs to be inside Sentoumaru to collect data!
Sure…but....what does that have to do with him being there or not? He could easily do both for reasons we simply cannot imagine yet.
Think logically before…
How can an object 'eat' a Devil Fruit?
How can a human be cloned and imbued with already existing DF powers when only one DF of a kind exists at any time in the world?
How can a man teleport?
How can a skeleton be living?
How can multiple people survive lightning blasts?
How can a human fall a hundred or so feet and survive only to get up and walk around moments later?
…Oda decides to say "Fuck logic".
All except by the person he's supposed to be guarding.
Shall we continue this dance?
I'm not saying it WILL happen. But I happen to like the idea myself and it certainly is possible.
Hey, you started it.
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just in case you didnt see it
i never meant for this to be an arguement but whatever. i was thinking like it will be a comical thing like this:
vegapunk:wow this is an intresting fight (while eating popcorn):ninja:
sontoumaru: what the hell are you doing in there?:blink:
vegapunk:well you gotta protect me so before you left while you were sleeping i sneaked in your stomach. its cool huh its so cozy in here:wub:
sontoumaru: i dont care if its cozy, get out of there:wassat: and give me some of that pop corn:getlost:
vegapunk: go get your own:getlost:
while everyone just stares at them
vegapunk:what your acting like you never seen someone in someone elses stomach before:wassat:
while every one is like sure why not:ermm:you know something fun not something serious like some of you took it. it seems greg is the only one who got it while it just went over everybody elses heads
can i say that yes oda follow some logic but that doesnt mean he will be controled by it he does he needs to send his story out while being what he wants it to be. logic or imagination the best thing about oda is that he knows how to balance the 2
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No…no nononono. This can't be real.
Clearly you're just using some form of clever sarcasm to mock this subject. If so, then bravo good sir. You are a champion of satire and parody.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Comedy is to logic, as music is to scales.
The whole reason I want to think logically, is because I want it to be broken fashionably by good humor. It takes a specific talent from a subtle genius to create excellent art. Comedy is without a doubt art. One of the things that makes One Piece so great is how finely orchestrated every piece of comedy and drama is put in.
The comedy isn't random. There's a reason behind every break in the logical sequence of the story. It can't just be random, just like how music can't just be random notes.
The whole reason I want to perceive the event in the story logically, is to have them broken, contorted, and sprayed outward in a fine mist that forms a luminescent aura to all that behold it.
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is it possible that there is more to brooks fruit like maybe he could control spirits or souls and like his violin is the medium to him controling the souls. like he is the conductor of the orchestra of souls (and the souls will be dead souls of coarse)
sorry but i did not get what you just said 0.0