Is Robin invisible or something?

pyromonki

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

That wasn't a fight, if you think Robin would've of won, you're fucking crazy.

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

And Luffy pushed 2 buildings apart, with no momentum, what the HELL do you mean he needs his DF?

Robin's only top tier when fighting normal people with average strength. Other wise, she's middle and lower, EVERYONE's like that in the One Piece world. >_>

Sanji's far more dangerous though, he has his anger and dreams that fuel his battle strength, Robin has survival….

SeriusReader

@pyromonki:

That wasn't a fight, if you think Robin would've of won, you're fucking crazy.

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

And Luffy pushed 2 buildings apart, with no momentum, what the HELL do you mean he needs his DF?

Robin's only top tier when fighting normal people with average strength. Other wise, she's middle and lower, EVERYONE's like that in the One Piece world. >_>

Sanji's far more dangerous though, he has his anger and dreams that fuel his battle strength, Robin has survival….

But when it comes against women… lol.

Captain Shmeckie

Fodder or not, have we all forgotten that she managed to overpower, restrain, and BREAK a massive man with herculean strength? Talkin' 'bout Enel's fat-ass general. The weaker members have pulled through some shit, sure, but nothing like that.

Robin's a beast. As long as she can do that hand guesture, anyway.

Mad Wanze

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

Only reason:

Gekko135

It seems this thread has spun out of control into a "How strong is Robin compared to the rest of the Straw Hats" conversation.

@Mad:

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

When in Rome…

yeah.. caught the straw hats off guard is what it seems to be (good chapter). This was the first time they really saw her power. The element of surprise is an interesting thing. To beat most people she needs to use that. It would be CRUCIAL!

Think she could stop one of Usopp's ammo after it's been fired? (especially if he was fighting with the same fury as when he fought Luffy?). Think she could contain Arm Point? (Chopper could easily shrink and grow to evade a proper grab attack by her). A 100 pound cannon or any sort of sword projectile? (it's already been proven that Zoro seems strong enough to break out of her grip). Sanji doesn't apply. ALL of franky's weapons? I wouldn't really know about brooke. Nami wouldn't really apply either, cause she really needs surprise for many of her strong attacks. And she could never hope to contain Luffy.

I'm not hating on Robin though. She's become INDISPENSABLE to the crew as back-up in a fight (support and add-ons to other's attacks. Or for a quick saving of someone's ass). It's really where she belongs in a fight. Her strength lies in her ability to observe while the front lines are being taken care of (which in turn maximizes the effectiveness of her abilities. This has been shown in the Moria and recent Kuma battles). But i'm referring to the opponents who are really really strong. Against normal Marines in massive groups she is untouchable.

Anyhoo... here's a Robin fan who's hoping she gets a one-on-one duel soon. There are many possibilities.

Satanstorm

The point of her having such a high bounty is just becouse she is the last Ohara scientist and coz she can read porneglyphs. If she would have a bounty coz of her strenght it would not be anything near 80 mio, But she is strong. Her strenght is a fact, but she just can"t compare to the monster trio.

Angel emfrbl

@Mad:

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

They were caught off guard (didn't expect a DF user)
She still hasn't fought without her DF.

Also… The thing is it has been stated Nami, Usopp and Chopper are overall the weakest three back somewhere in Thriller Bark (and Usopp has been noted to be the weakest or have you forgotten what his problem was in W7 was in the first place). Therefore, Robin with DF is somewhere between the Monster Trio and the weak three. The "middle Tier" (monster trio "top tier", Weak Trio "lower tier").

Deicide

Well, I think Robin is a little overrated. She is not weak, yes, but it is her DF that is too strong (and she uses it for maximum eficiency). However, I never forgot that, after she defeated Pell, Pell later returned to fight, and said that "Now that I know what you can do, I'm prepared to face you" or something like that. I think that strong fighters who know what she can do can fight her (I'm not saying Pell would be able to defeat her, specially since he was hurt from his earlier defeat).

pyromonki

@Mad:

Only reason:

Actually, it's because Luffy and Zoro are about equal in strength, so though Luffy doesn't have to break out of her grasp, he still freakin' can. He's that beastly.

brennen.exe

@onemoment:

She could easily overpower Nami.

PLEASE! Robin. Pfft. Never.
[hide][/hide]Chopper: Lightning!! That attack…It worked!! He's on his knees!!@Mad:

Look at that.

PLEASE! Tripping someone != pwn
Tripping someone = 0mgze yuz knt splee sux0r ide0tz!!

Deltron 3030

@Captain:

Y'knwo, people keep talking about Robin like she's this frail little woman, but have we all frogotten how her copy arms have been able to restrain hordes of large men in the past? She completely grappled Pell into submission, and the only time someone broke free was that zombie with Zoro's shadow.

No were talking like she isn't on the combat level of Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro.

Because she isn't.

At all.

h3h3h3

Robin is a weakling, live with that horrid knowledge robin fan's.

Angel emfrbl

Reguardless of what we say, even if we had proof she was the weakest crew member…

...Rabid Fans cannot be put down. ¬_¬

Edit:

Want proof... Call out the Usopp fans.

Lobolover

h3-and the fact her DF is one of the most broken in the series ,Im sure this doesnt relate to the thing concrning Moria not wanting her,but im replying to your general statement.

brennen.exe

Is Robin limited to hands, eyes, and ears? I forgot. Did she say so somewhere? If not, why can she not create a doppleganger?

DiableShoot

Its not like her dopple could move from the spot she made it from anyway. Also a dopple could risk her getting seriously hurt since it presents a bigger target and includes her vital points, not like when its just her arms.

Zkaiser

The bodypart needs a surface, but she can spout anything(even breasts ^_^). So I guess she throw a rock spout an arm from the rock and grow everything else from that, but she would have to control that body in addition to her original. Pretty taxing on the mind. (Robin develops split personality from the Ohara Incident:ninja:) Typing on psp is a bitch.

brennen.exe

Haha. Yes. A rock. That would be perfect. She definitely needs to come up with a bunshin technique. Or at least "body" armor. (LOL, lame pun). Similar to Hawkins' scarecrow technique. Then, and only then, would Robin be visible…

onemoment

@Captain:

You have no proof how strong Robin really is, soooooooo unless you prove it, that's a false statement!

What is this, a court? Ha.

Here's the clostest thing I got. Enel and Odz. With Odz, Nami was off kidnapped while the SH crew, in this case including Robin, was attacked by Odz. When Nami did join in the fight, she avoided all damage.

And I mentioned Enel because it's virtually the same thing. Robin gets zapped through the head while Nami plays the role of scared hostage.

The point I'm trying to make is, for some reason, Nami avoids damage while Robin just…doesn't. From this I infer that an attack from Enel or Odz would either KO, kill, or disable Nami for the rest of the arc, while apparently Robin can take it. Nami's endurance is the lowest amongst the SHs, and if she was "KOed" during the first Odz assualt she wouldn't get up. She apparently has the most human endurance of the SHs. Notice she never even got hit in that battle.

So, from this I infer that Robin is physically stronger then Nami, and in the event these two get in a fist fight--no DF no Climatact--that Robin will overpower her. She's made of stronger stuff, and I'd personally rate this and her experience in the underworld and her 10 years more age would make her the winner in this rare circumstance.

Also, what's all this talk about rabid Robin fans? I haven't seen one, or at least haven't noticed them. I just see people trying to give Robin a fair chance. In my case, I'm not evening comparing Robin to another SH...except Nami. But, I guess I never saw brennen.exe coming.

Deicide

I approve the idea of Robin cloning herself, since her Hana Hana powers do not duplicate clothes or equipment… ^_^

Captain Brooke

@onemoment:

What is this, a court? Ha.

Here's the clostest thing I got. Enel and Odz. With Odz, Nami was off kidnapped while the SH crew, in this case including Robin, was attacked by Odz. When Nami did join in the fight, she avoided all damage.

And I mentioned Enel because it's virtually the same thing. Robin gets zapped through the head while Nami plays the role of scared hostage.

The point I'm trying to make is, for some reason, Nami avoids damage while Robin just…doesn't. From this I infer that an attack from Enel or Odz would either KO, kill, or disable Nami for the rest of the arc, while apparently Robin can take it. Nami's endurance is the lowest amongst the SHs, and if she was "KOed" during the first Odz assualt she wouldn't get up. She apparently has the most human endurance of the SHs. Notice she never even got hit in that battle.

So, from this I infer that Robin is physically stronger then Nami, and in the event these two get in a fist fight--no DF no Climatact--that Robin will overpower her. She's made of stronger stuff, and I'd personally rate this and her experience in the underworld and her 10 years more age would make her the winner in this rare circumstance.

Also, what's all this talk about rabid Robin fans? I haven't seen one, or at least haven't noticed them. I just see people trying to give Robin a fair chance. In my case, I'm not evening comparing Robin to another SH...except Nami. But, I guess I never saw brennen.exe coming.

Opps, my bad:sad:, I just went back and read your comment, and noticed I made a mistake when I addressed your comment, lol, it was realllllllllllllllll late so I misread it, soooo, I take back my original comment!

brennen.exe

@onemoment:

I'm not evening comparing Robin to another SH…except Nami. But, I guess I never saw brennen.exe coming.

Eeeeexcceellent. I hope you know I was only being silly. Except that I wasn't. Or was I?

onemoment

@brennen.exe:

Eeeeexcceellent. I hope you know I was only being silly. Except that I wasn't. Or was I?

Either way…neeeevveer saw that coming.

FireFistAce 0

@h3h3h3:

Robin is a weakling, live with that horrid knowledge robin fan's.

I'll trade you my apple juice for your cookies. [/preschool]

Robin's strength is in her brilliant mind and her DF ability. You can't reproduce that in the zombies and Moria knows this. That's all there is to it.