Yessssssssss in the lead. War needs moar.
Favorite Arc/Saga
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I hadn't seen this thread before, but damn is it a hard decision. I really love Baroque Works and CP9 because they were both game changers for their time. The thing is, the current saga changes the game now and in the future in such a profound way that I can't ignore just how amazing it really is. Think about what we've gotten this saga:
Reaching the Red Line again
The introduction of the remaining two admirals
The separation of the Straw Hats
The introduction of the remaining Warlords
Breaking in and out of Impel Down
Blackbeard and Co. Return
Whitebeard and the World Government go to war
Ace is rescued and killedThere's no other saga that compares to this one, in just sheer epicness and sheer story. Not only has it brought out some of the best secondary and primary characters back, it's introduced great new ones and provided a fun and interesting story! The thing is, I'm sure Oda will top it in his next saga, and if not that one the one after.
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The current saga is simply the best.
The fact that the War arc wasnt animated yet is the reason why it is second in the poll. Come on Arlong Park !!!! Impel Down and Marine HQ are waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more epic than CP9.
12 more votes come on Arlong Park dont let me down !
The rescue Ace saga is 10 times better than tthe cp9.5 more votes now ! come on Arlong Park. When the arc will be animated the difference will be a lot bigger.
I am glad War rapestorms in the poll.
Come on War ! beat the crap outta CP9…
I am digging this up again. I think that after the 2 latest chapters, the War Saga is superior to CP9 in every aspect.
2 votes more…come on AP !
The 1 on 1 CP9 fights were tiring….
Yessssssssss in the lead. War needs moar.
Wow.. wow! are you Kishido's brother?
Btw, here is the original post of this thread: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1355077&postcount=63
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
But the "fights" in the war were terrible imo. A bunch of fake one on ones and fodder getting pwned.
This is a more realistic war not a bleach war imo. One on One fights are too usual, predictable and too shonen style. Are Joz-Marco (they were beaten), Ace, WB soon , Oars Jr, Akainu, John Giant considered fodder !?
…In the meantime we were watching the developments of the war....and how it ended up. This arc is epic. Impel Down was almost that amazing too. -
This is a more realistic war not a bleach war imo. One on One fights are too usual, predictable and too shonen style. Are Joz-Marco (they were beaten), Ace, WB soon , Oars Jr, Akainu, John Giant considered fodder !?
…In the meantime we were watching the developments of the war....and how it ended up. This arc is epic. Impel Down was almost that amazing too.Bleach has a war? lulz. I l'll go read to see.
After reading a manga filled with nothing but war (based off historical events) this OP war doesn't look more realistic. The basics of on the field fighting was on point but other than that nah it wasn't done well.
John Giant is fodder especially when he gets taken down in one hit, Ace died(the only guy so far since he was protecting someone, that's died for sure). Now these other guys aren't fodder but all they did was show abilities to the readers and disappear for a few chaps just to appear later to say "Pops!" or "Ace!!!!"; Joz got immobilized and Marco got handcuffed. WB is doing the most typical shonen shit in this "war" fighting without defense(which I could let slide) and continuing to fight with lava in his skull. Oh yea Oars Jr., more fodder which goes along with Oda's trend of all giants being fodder. I did enjoy his leg getting hacked off and Moria's impalement tho. Akainu didn't get pwned so he aint fodder, he got attacked and will show up later.
I'm not saying one on ones are better than a war style battle. I'm saying this shit wasn't a real war. Just a display of a few unknowns and already hyped characters(that wouldn't get hurt) getting in a couple skirmishes and then heading off to pwn fodder marines and pirates. Ace was gonna die regardless and all he did before that was pwn fodder marines.
IMO ID > War. That's just from an action standpoint imo. I guess Oda didn't want to repeat the last rescue arc so he gave us this. I think most of yall are still on a high that Ace is Roger's son and that he died. Overall the Water 7/EL saga/arc is better story and fighting wise.
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OP war doesn't look more realistic.
Does OP looks realistic? Come on. Related a SHONEN with REALITY is the worst thing to do.
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@People:
OP war doesn't look more realistic.
Does OP looks realistic? Come on. Related a SHONEN with REALITY is the worst thing to do.
I'll assume you put this guy on your ignore list after your last quote about him. This is what I'm responding too.
@GaaraofTheDesert:This is a more realistic war
Aint shit realistic about this war. So how could it be more realistic?
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@People:
Wow… some people seems forgetting Arc Drum with Chopper FB, Skypia and the best FB ever ect.. This war is good, but in term of writing, these two are IMO a lot better.
Sadly, too many people seems sumarize One Piece to either CP9 saga or this one.Like I said, all of the writing is amazing, but EL stands out, because it shows just how strong the SHs have grown, plus, I actually think Robin's flash back is better than the Skypeia one. In fact, I tend to just skip over that during rereads. What selld me on EL though really is the emotional build up that explodes several times throughout the ar (When the shoot the flag, "I wanna live" Usopps "It ain't like it's hell here" speech, and Merry's funeral. There were so many times I felt such a sense of exhiliration and anxiety to through this arc, that I never thought it could be matched.
Then came this arc, and I won't repeat everything I have already said, but everything has played out perfectly I feel.
Not sure what you mean by summarize One-Piece, but I think these arcs stand out because of small things that differentiate them from the others. For me, this is the best I have ever seen Oda, and even though I had my doubts, everything's coming together here at the end..
And 'm sure later on down the road, I'll be defending the newest arc as the best, but that just shows that Oda's doing his job right. -
East Blue, just one reason. Arlong Arc.
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There's a problem here now that i'm thinkin about it, are we talkin about arcs or sagas ?
coz if talk sagas TB is only an arc in WB's war saga…
there are 5 sagas in OP, and we're reachin the end of the fifth one. -
There's a problem here now that i'm thinkin about it, are we talkin about arcs or sagas ?
coz if talk sagas TB is only an arc in WB's war saga…
there are 5 sagas in OP, and we're reachin the end of the fifth one.Where'd you hear that?
I'm pretty sure TB was its own saga, wasn't it? It doesn't really seem to tie in with the the war… -
Thriller Bark was just a jump between Enies Lobby and SA I think…
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
But the "fights" in the war were terrible imo. A bunch of fake one on ones and fodder getting pwned.
What can you expect in a setting so chaotic? Tons of regular soldiers to battle the regular pirates. A huge huge amount of strong fighters in one place. Weaponry and explosives all over the place. These aren't really "fights". It's an all out battle. Honestly you can't really have detailed "one on ones" with so much going on. That could make things drag to hell.
I see nothing wrong with using fodder. It makes the setting bigger and more close to the concept of war. That's not to say it's realistic or accurate.
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What can you expect in a setting so chaotic? Tons of regular soldiers to battle the regular pirates. A huge huge amount of strong fighters in one place. Weaponry and explosives all over the place. These aren't really "fights". It's an all out battle. Honestly you can't really have detailed "one on ones" with so much going on. That could make things drag to hell.
I see nothing wrong with using fodder. It makes the setting bigger and more close to the concept of war. That's not to say it's realistic or accurate.
It wouldn't drag if it was done right.
But if you're going to go from calling them fights to battles. Then the battle sucked balls. I'm not saying there should've been detailed one on ones, just good one on one match ups.
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I though Thriller Bark was more of a stand alone arc then a saga really. Besides introducing Brook (and more info on the biblicard), I don't think it really had any sort of place in the current saga.
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TB was just like Skypeia. A short transitional phase that's meant to be fun and fresh and to get away from the monotony that the long sagas might sometimes have.
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
It wouldn't drag if it was done right.
But if you're going to go from calling them fights to battles. Then the battle sucked balls. I'm not saying there should've been detailed one on ones, just good one on one match ups.
Define "done right"?
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Define "done right"?
Every fight or battle that got focus for a couple chaps are compelling enough so the plot dragging doesn't occur. Actual ups and downs during the war, better use of multiple strategies in keeping the pirates from Ace, hyped up characters actually fighting and getting hurt, etc.
FYI a bunch of ppl have already complained that this war has dragged from the way it's done and I feel that's cuz outside of Ace dying everybody pretty much knew nothing was going to happen they didn't expect was going to happen (Joz losing his arm was unexpected but c'mon nobody gives a fuck about him).
I simply wasn't satisfied with how most of this war was executed.
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Every fight or battle that got focus for a couple chaps are compelling enough so the plot dragging doesn't occur. Actual ups and downs during the war, better use of multiple strategies in keeping the pirates from Ace, hyped up characters actually fighting and getting hurt, etc.
FYI a bunch of ppl have already complained that this war has dragged from the way it's done and I feel that's cuz outside of Ace dying everybody pretty much knew nothing was going to happen they didn't expect was going to happen (Joz losing his arm was unexpected but c'mon nobody gives a fuck about him).
I simply wasn't satisfied with how most of this war was executed.
I do?
and moria got his ass kicked by jinbei
Ivan was holdin off Kuma (who shouldnt he be faster now that he's a cyborg)
Mr 1 got wrecked in one slash by Mihawk
Akinu punches a fucking magma fist through Ace's tummy who in turn is smacked down by WB
Marco gets sneakly handcuffed by a VA and shot by kizaru (enjoyed this team work alot
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Don sliced through Oars leg with ease and toyed with croc :blink:
WB took out john giant with one blow who (this isnt fact) but i think he mighta been around VA level seeing how decorated he was and i think its safe to assume the strongest man in the world can 1 hit a VA
Boa whooped a logia's ass (granted its smoker but still LOGIA) and took down alot of pacifistaimo i thought this war was great we got alot of fights and alot of abilitys shown but alot kept secret for when each of these guys is a main antagonest in the story like now i just cant wait for the story to progress!
(oda has us right where he wants us:ninja::ninja:)
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Man fuck Joz but seriously I mean that in the sense as we aint know shit about him before this war really compared to the shichi, Ace, Croc, admirals, etc.
Plus Joz really lacks a presence imo. Dude got the shaft in Ace flashbacks.
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Man fuck Joz but seriously I mean that in the sense as we aint know shit about him before this war really compared to the shichi, Ace, Croc, admirals, etc.
Plus Joz really lacks a presence imo. Dude got the shaft in Ace flashbacks.
all i kno is he's dimond and imo makes him "stacked" i just feel he fought the one guy who can really by pass his unstoppable def (CURSE U AKOJI!) i thought his block against Mihawk who didnt look like he was holding back to measure his strength kinda set the par for Joz, but dont worry i think we'll see more of him to come (or hopefully he'll just die ive always wanted Oda to introduce someone with a powerful DF and then suddenly their just taken out by a stronger df user lol
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Every fight or battle that got focus for a couple chaps are compelling enough so the plot dragging doesn't occur. Actual ups and downs during the war, better use of multiple strategies in keeping the pirates from Ace, hyped up characters actually fighting and getting hurt, etc…..
I simply wasn't satisfied with how most of this war was executed.
I don't think this saga had a focus on battling, it was more about must save ace in time with many peoples in the way. If there was a couple of chapters for each battle it would seem like luffy and the gang wasn't rushing to get to Ace. It's like if you were in a running race and there was a fence in the way, your not going to spend time destroying it, you will try to jump over it.
(really bad example)
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There's a problem here now that i'm thinkin about it, are we talkin about arcs or sagas ?
coz if talk sagas TB is only an arc in WB's war saga…
there are 5 sagas in OP, and we're reachin the end of the fifth one.When i did this thread it was about saga, and in the poll i put Thriller Bark as a saga, because for me it start really in Shabaody ( and we don't know the real order until Oda put it on the official website.)
Then a moderator had the great idea to merge the thread with a old and useless thread about arcs. Another bullshit from mod. You can see their awesome arguments here: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=25191 -
all i kno is he's dimond and imo makes him "stacked" i just feel he fought the one guy who can really by pass his unstoppable def (CURSE U AKOJI!) i thought his block against Mihawk who didnt look like he was holding back to measure his strength kinda set the par for Joz, but dont worry i think we'll see more of him to come (or hopefully he'll just die ive always wanted Oda to introduce someone with a powerful DF and then suddenly their just taken out by a stronger df user lol
)He's frozen solid and has his right arm broken off. He's down for the rest of the war imo.
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I don't think this saga had a focus on battling, it was more about must save ace in time with many peoples in the way. If there was a couple of chapters for each battle it would seem like luffy and the gang wasn't rushing to get to Ace. It's like if you were in a running race and there was a fence in the way, your not going to spend time destroying it, you will try to jump over it.
(really bad example)
Well that's another reason for me to like other sagas more.
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the war arc is the best…it was way too intense
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I think the war's battles were done at its best.
I mean, if it were done by other mangaka coughkubotitecough, just imagine how long would it takes to finish all the battles? I couldn't even start to imagine… -
Aw no love for Thriller Bark?
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Aw no love for Thriller Bark?
Zombie fans, represent!i voted for thriller bark
it was a great arc
brookes
fights
combo fights
nightmere luffy
luffy really reaching his limits in the story
Zoro's sacrifice for luffy
crew vs odz first time we saw a team fight without luffyto me there is more to list like perona who seems to have a larger role in the story we saw her in the covers
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What? I was expecting CP9 to be leading the poll by miles. It was almost perfect with great story, comedy, mystery and action. The current arc does not even come close to CP9 in terms of story and mystery and action as well!! Buggy is the only saving grace
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What? I was expecting CP9 to be leading the poll by miles. It was almost perfect with great story, comedy, mystery and action. The current arc does not even come close to CP9 in terms of story and mystery and action as well!! Buggy is the only saving grace
The current arc has better action than 1on1 shit.
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But the Lucci vs. Luffy fight is one of the best fights the series' has, though I will admit WhitGAR vs. Akainu was pretty cathartic.
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@Cyan:
But the Lucci vs. Luffy fight is one of the best fights the series' has, though I will admit WhitGAR vs. Akainu was pretty cathartic.
though the arc had the best death in it
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how could you people not get enough from one on one fights?
I can't choose between CP9 and the current war, each one has its own epicness.
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Zoro vs Mr. 1, Zoro vs Ryumma and Luffy vs Lucci was the best fights in all of one piece.
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Personally I loved the Thriller Bark arc, but again, I seem to be in the minority. I also enjoyed the Impel Down part of the latest story arc more than the rescue Ace part.
As for deaths to choose from: Flashbacks aside, I can only think of Bellamy or Roshio and the former is only hinted as being dead. Until I hear it outright confirmed for him and Bon Chan, both are probably alive.
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I like the current arc the best. It would be awesome to see whitebeard & akainu scuffle when it gets animated.
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I felt that Arabasta Arc was the most Addictive one!
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Mine would be Sabaody Archipelago
Since it is not on the poll, I would go for Impel Down, but it is packed in the same option as the current arc which I think sux beyond words.
CP9 was pretty cool, but I found incredibly frustrating how every SH, even the weakest, could win against long time experienced super-human elite assassins (I doubt I will ever accept Nami defeating Kalifa).
Baroque Works then.
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CP9 / Enies Lobby for me
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Wtf again, come on vote for the war people. Btw the most of those who dropped the manga did it in Skypeia…
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Does it really matter if the War arc wins the poll? It's still not a huge difference either way between the two arcs. They're still both awesome.
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Wtf again, come on vote for the war people. Btw the most of those who dropped the manga did it in Skypeia…
If people don't appreciate Skypiea then One Piece probably isn't for them anyway.
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I am just surprised East Blue got so less votes, Arlong's Arc was and is my favorite, I just love it when things were simpler…
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If people don't appreciate Skypiea then One Piece probably isn't for them anyway.
Come on..I agree the adventure theme, the discovering the unknown part, the Shandians - Native Americans and the flashback were awesome..but there were a lot of USELESS 1 on 1 fights such as Zoro vs pistol guy, Luffy vs Viper, Giant dawg vs others etc..really tiring…and of course the villain had no real motive...and no chance of winning.
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I am just surprised East Blue got so less votes, Arlong's Arc was and is my favorite, I just love it when things were simpler…
I think just the same . Arlong Park and Nami story and tears are my favorite . But as i read it most people vote goes to the arc who had the most intense fight or involve tragic development (death of Ace) .
my vote goes to the arc who made me fall into the manga and has given me the most intense emotion (i remember crying when nami ask help from Luffy) secondly the CP9 arc Robin story was harsh , sad and beautiful .
I also like the skypia arc , in fact the thriller bark and war and rescue arc was my less favorite . I like them but they seems to me less well-writen than the other .
Thriller bark was like a mini-arc with no really important fact than the recruitment of Brook..and the war and rescue i won't talk about cause i really dislike it (not due to ace death)
we spent many months in impeldown with anticipation for the war and it was kind of boring sometimes..to spent less than 30 chapter on this actual war..
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Gah I can't believe Thriller Bark is 2nd to last. Hell, I can't believe the East Blue stories are last.
The Arlong stuff alone is one of the best parts of One Piece.
Damn you guys have no taste.
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@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
But the "fights" in the war were terrible imo. A bunch of fake one on ones and fodder getting pwned.
I liked that random feeling and mess behind it. As if, you cant fight exactly who you wish and you cant fight him till the end. I was taking those fights more as The Marines were constantly on defence and when they attacked they attacked to basically stop the Pirates, while the pirates were trying to find a hole in defence itself. However as they learned about the execution being rescheduled that went to the less tactical and more open overall battle.
Maybe it doesnt make much sense, but it did to me/ does to me at the time.
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I liked that random feeling and mess behind it. As if, you cant fight exactly who you wish and you cant fight him till the end. I was taking those fights more as The Marines were constantly on defence and when they attacked they attacked to basically stop the Pirates, while the pirates were trying to find a hole in defence itself. However as they learned about the execution being rescheduled that went to the less tactical and more open overall battle.
Maybe it doesnt make much sense, but it did to me/ does to me at the time.
I get it. It's like a football game where one team always has the ball.
I just didn't like it much and definitely not more than W7/EL
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