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Fist of Love wasn't really a gag as characters actually comment on the fact that Garp can bypass Luffy's rubber body.
Yeah, if it were only a gag nobody would comment anything, just like nobody comments when Nami gives him bruises.
I remember thinking at that moment that he either has some devil fruit or there's some other ability, solely because other SH were surprised at Garp actually bruising him.
EDIT: Took my time writing, lol.
The entire situation is "funny" though. They wonder how he's hurting, and Garp claims it's a "Fist of Love, which is meant to sound silly. Then it goes into them falling asleep on each other, Garp hurting him again, and Luffy having 3 giant bumps on his head that go away afterwards.
I'm not saying it couldn't have been the first hint at armament from Oda, but at the time it was played as a funny situation. The main point though is that armament had less of a buildup than the other two forms, which had small hints dropped since the beginning. Armament was necessary… but kinda came out of nowhere.
The entire situation is "funny" though. They wonder how he's hurting, and Garp claims it's a "Fist of Love, which is meant to sound silly. Then it goes into them falling asleep on each other, Garp hurting him again, and Luffy having 3 giant bumps on his head that go away afterwards.
I'm not saying it couldn't have been the first hint at armament from Oda, but at the time it was played as a funny situation. The main point though is that armament had less of a buildup than the other two forms, which had small hints dropped since the beginning. Armament was necessary… but kinda came out of nowhere.
I always thought this was a hint to armament:
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He's obviously off about Mihawk using a DF power to cut the ship, but he does raise the interesting option of Zeff finding a method to deal with DF powers, and Busoshoku was at first presented as a power that can bypass DF-related defenses (Garp, Sentoumaru, Boa sisters).
In hindsight, Zeff's kicks being able to break rock and bend steel can at least be partially attributed to haki. Plus he was the one to tell Luffy that the first half of the GL is called 'paradise', a name usually used by NW pirates, in which haki is pretty common.
You can obviously claim that it's not conclusive evidence, but that's pretty much the problem with hints, so just raising this point here.
For how sttraight the punch was played, I always considered Garp had an ability that let him punch Luffy. Or else Sanji wouldn't comment on it or on how he shouldn't feel it. It's like finding Lucci's has strong fingers because he is "fighting" Paulie.
But I do think armament come pretty late in the story. Isn't Ennias Lobby, not that far? Seastone may have been the first idea to fight off logias.
The fist of love was played for laughs and it was serious business.
Don't forget the chapter was titled, "Fist of Love" and within an SBS a reader asked if Garp used Haki or Love. Oda simply responded with love.
I have a super duper good feeling those who are very close to you(in all manner of loving relationships) can bypass the "evil devil" within because of the love factor. Like some kind of silly rock paper scissors only with the rock and paper. The devil has no defense against honest love. You know as apposed to that phony teenage love.
I know I've been in the minority on this subject since Amazon Lily but I think Nami's attacks actually do hurt Luffy. And while it is funny I think there are some real rules of One Piece at play in those moments.
Something that came to mind recently…
-- You can Haki up any part of your body.
-- They cut the Pirate King's head off.
But how? Was this all a plan by Roger? Discuss.
Something that came to mind recently…
-- You can Haki up any part of your body.
-- They cut the Pirate King's head off.
But how? Was this all a plan by Roger? Discuss.
Because Roger let himself die.
Because Roger let himself die.
That reminded me that I forgot a chunk of Roger's story. Wikis are your friend!
This might put me in the minority here, but honestly, I hope that Zoro doesn't awaken Conqueror's Haki, nor any of the other Straw Hats, either. And this is coming from someone whose two favorite characters in the series are Luffy and Zoro, and Sanji is tied for my number three spot. At least hear me out on this, even if you disagree.
Conqueror's Haki was introduced as a big deal for someone to have, a "one-in-a-million" chance that people are born with. If Zoro awakens Conqueror's Haki and Sanji does not, that would put Zoro and Luffy way too far above Sanji (who is already slightly below Zoro as is) in terms of strength and would really make it into more of a Monster Duo. But, if Sanji does get Conqueror's Haki, too, then we would have three Straw Hats who could use it. Hardly "one-in-a-million"; to be honest, it would be really difficult to swallow that three people with Conqueror's Haki would end up on the same ship. I don't like it when series do that: when they introduce some strong, special ability that only a few people are supposed to have, only to later say "LOL JK a lot of people can actually use it". If Zoro and Sanji–or even just Zoro--who are Luffy's top subordinates, get CoC because they're "really strong" members of the Straw Hats, then hell, why doesn't any really strong person get it? The Fleet Admirals, the regular Admirals, all the Warlords, all the Emperors, their top subordinates…you can't have it both ways. Either Conqueror's Haki isn't actually rare and any very strong person should be able to awaken it (and in that case, various characters should not have acted nearly as shocked as they did when they saw Luffy and others using it), or it truly is rare and even some of the very strongest don't get it.
Not only that, but Luffy being the only one with Conqueror's Haki in the Monster Trio/the entire crew is a good way to ultimately set him above the rest and reassert that yes, he is indeed the leader. Zoro and Sanji (Zoro in particular) already aren't that far below Luffy strength-wise. It's been pretty heavily implied that all three of them can use both Armament and Observation Haki. If they got Conqueror's Haki, too, would they really be below Luffy strength-wise? Especially Zoro, who can apparently cut through anything and hasn't even been challenged post-timeskip. I always thought that Zoro's insanely strong bloodlust and killing intent (usually stronger than Luffy's, actually) was a perfect substitute anyway. It's not real Conqueror's Haki, so it won't knock out the weak, but it will freak them out and cause them to freeze with fear. I'd say a captain with Devil Fruit powers and all three types of Haki and a Number Two with two types of Haki, a pseudo-third type, and some of the best sword skills in the world is a stable combination.
Luffy: have CoC and and formidable lineage
Sanji: have a formidable lineage
Zoro: doesn't have a formidable lineage so why not give him CoC.
French One Piece Fanfiction: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-3…post_893839745
Something that came to mind recently…
-- You can Haki up any part of your body.
-- They cut the Pirate King's head off.
But how? Was this all a plan by Roger? Discuss.
talk about whitebeard
Something that came to mind recently…
-- You can Haki up any part of your body.
-- They cut the Pirate King's head off.
But how? Was this all a plan by Roger? Discuss.
Having the executioners hacking away at a haki user at the start of the story would not look that good and you forgot that Roger handed himself in since he was sick to the marines he was not caught by them no point in using haki for defence when you handed yourself in to be executed in the first place!
is mystery of kuzan and akainu and kizaru being hit by haki and not getting hurt solved yet ?
Luffy: have CoC and and formidable lineage
Sanji: have a formidable lineage
Zoro: doesn't have a formidable lineage so why not give him CoC.
The world is truly a shitty place when there are people who have neither Conqueror Haki nor rich parents.
If not one of those 2, Zoro should at least get an OP devil fruit as a compensation.
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is mystery of kuzan and akainu and kizaru being hit by haki and not getting hurt solved yet ?
I don't remember Aokiji and Kizaru being in dubious situations. Joz drew Aokiji's blood and Rayleigh drew Kizaru's.
The only mystery is Akainu getting cut by Marco and Vista, commenting how Haki users are troublesome and not being hurt at all.
His counter-Haki must be stronger than theirs. :ninja:
Might have been better if he was shown dodging those slashes and commenting how Haki users are troublesome, or something.
The world is truly a shitty place when there are people who have neither Conqueror Haki nor rich parents.
If not one of those 2, Zoro should at least get an OP devil fruit as a compensation.
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I don't remember Aokiji and Kizaru being in dubious situations. Joz drew Aokiji's blood and Rayleigh drew Kizaru's.
The only mystery is Akainu getting cut by Marco and Vista, commenting how Haki users are troublesome and not being hurt at all.
His counter-Haki must be stronger than theirs. :ninja:
Might have been better if he was shown dodging those slashes and commenting how Haki users are troublesome, or something.
kizaru and aokiji where directly attacked by whitebeard
Have trouble imagining Zoro with some trippin paramecia or a mythical zoan, lol?
kizaru and aokiji where directly attacked by whitebeard
Aokiji made a hole in his body so that Whitebeard's bisento can pass through, if that's what you mean.
Can't remember Kizaru situation.
http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-597-page-17.html
Based on what Luffy said there, you could say that Oda is foreshadowing someone in the crew getting CoC other than Luffy. I think most people would agree that Zoro is the most likely candidate, followed by Sanji and maybe Ussop. He does plan on "conquering" all other swordsmen, after all.
So what explains behavior such as this?
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I believe this aura, as many others do as well, is Zoro's own brand of CoC. He exhibits every single quality of a conquerer. What would you say this aura, which made Monet go bonkers, is?
I would look up more if you're not convinced. If I recall correctly there are other moments where Zoro freaks people out through sheer intimidation.
Attributing it all to CH just takes credit from Zoro, in my opinion. Feeling people's intimidating auras or killing intent is a staple in shounen. Just because there's a named ability which does something similar in this manga, doesn't mean it all falls under that named ability.
Besides, why didn't Zoro start showing signs earlier? It's not like he's younger and less experienced than Luffy. There were plenty of opportunities for his CH to awaken. Unlike his NW run, he was on the edge of dying almost every arc in Paradise.
Rayleigh is an example that there can be more than one CH user in one group, but that's should be an exception. Rayleigh needed to have CH so that he can teach it to Luffy. Zoro has the desire to go to the top, but he was also willing to die for someone else and he was also willing to humiliate himself in front of Mihawk all for the sake of other. He just doesn't fit the profile. Granted, Rayleigh might be just like that as well, but his past is a blank.
Have trouble imagining Zoro with some trippin paramecia or a mythical zoan, lol?
Aokiji made a hole in his body so that Whitebeard's bisento can pass through, if that's what you mean.
Can't remember Kizaru situation.
i get the aokiji one now
kizaru was attacked trying to kill luffy on bridge made by inazuma
and was directly by one of commanders weapons
i get the aokiji one now
kizaru was attacked trying to kill luffy on bridge made by inazuma
and was directly by one of commanders weapons
Right, I went to check. Whitebeard slashed at Kizaru while he was transforming, attempting to stop Luffy from advancing Inazuma bridge. Seems to be similar to that Akainu situation. Unless Whitebeard didn't use Haki. But then Kizaru wouldn't have stopped. Maybe he noticed and split his body where Whitebeard was cutting (doesn't seem likely) or it's that counter-Haki again, lol.
Attributing it all to CH just takes credit from Zoro, in my opinion. Feeling people's intimidating auras or killing intent is a staple in shounen. Just because there's a named ability which does something similar in this manga, doesn't mean it all falls under that named ability.
Besides, why didn't Zoro start showing signs earlier? It's not like he's younger and less experienced than Luffy. There were plenty of opportunities for his CH to awaken. Unlike his NW run, he was on the edge of dying almost every arc in Paradise.
Rayleigh is an example that there can be more than one CH user in one group, but that's should be an exception. Rayleigh needed to have CH so that he can teach it to Luffy. Zoro has the desire to go to the top, but he was also willing to die for someone else and he was also willing to humiliate himself in front of Mihawk all for the sake of other. He just doesn't fit the profile. Granted, Rayleigh might be just like that as well, but his past is a blank.
I don't think the intimidating aura is CoC either.
Luffy's CoC didn't manifest under particularly stressful circumstances either. The first sign wasn't against Morai, Lucci, what have you, it was against Duval's bull.
Ace did die for someone else, and he was pledged to Whitebeard in addition. And Luffy bowed to Drum Islamd to save Nami, Chinjao has bowed to Luffy to put his crew under his command. Zoro wants to be the best swordsman, I think that's enough for CoC.
Not to mention that if Chinjao is to be believed, CoC users are quite common in the NW. I can definitely see Mihawk having it, Rayleigh has it, Zoro having it would just be the logical conclusion to that.
http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-597-page-17.html
Based on what Luffy said there, you could say that Oda is foreshadowing someone in the crew getting CoC other than Luffy. I think most people would agree that Zoro is the most likely candidate, followed by Sanji and maybe Ussop. He does plan on "conquering" all other swordsmen, after all.
I think Usopp has a bigger claim for CoC, going by the fact that his lies tend to end up true and that he shares Luffy's predisposition to make people follow him.
A CoC user is said to have the qualities of a king after all. A good king is mostly defined by loyal followers. Every CoC user so far has had its own share of those.
Most big names have it, didn't Rayleigh say that? Depends if you consider sanji and zoro big names by the end of the manga.
Sanji was at least captain of the crew for a while, when Luffy was not there and was treated like captain, so another hint right there. Zoro also tends to step in sometimes like a leader would do.
And we don't know yet, but zoro could also have important parents?
And it's too late for '' hope lineage doesn't play a role thing'', since the main character has 6 big names( yonkou, most wanted man, rival of pirate king, sabo, ace, vice pirate king) related to him. So you got 3 SH related to important people, more could show up. The ones that don't have important lineage and still make a name for them are the other supernovas like Kid, Law, etc.
I think Usopp has a bigger claim for CoC, going by the fact that his lies tend to end up true and that he shares Luffy's predisposition to make people follow him.
A CoC user is said to have the qualities of a king after all. A good king is mostly defined by loyal followers. Every CoC user so far has had its own share of those.
You could say Zoro would end up as the King of Swordsman though. And Rayleigh hasn't had any followers in what we've seen of his past. I can't see Ussop getting it before Zoro or Sanji, no matter his lies. He doesn't seem to be descended from Noland either
You could say Zoro would end up as the King of Swordsman though. And Rayleigh hasn't had any followers in what we've seen of his past. I can't see Ussop getting it before Zoro or Sanji, no matter his lies. He doesn't seem to be descended from Noland either
Rayleigh had the loyalty of the other members of the Roger Pirates. There's a reason he was the first-mate of the crew. His authority was second only to Roger.
Usopp so far has the undying loyalty of at least 3 Giants, a tribe of Dwarves and several other strong pirates.
Him not being descendant of Noland has nothing to do with it.
If Zoro and Sanji and Usopp get Conqueror's Haki, what reason is there that half the people in the frickin' One Piece world don't end up with it? If Luffy and multiple subordinates got it, why wouldn't any strong subordinate of any Emperor get it? After all, they (like Jack) are leaders of their own huge armies, unlike Luffy's subordinates. Why wouldn't the admirals and the fleet admirals have it, too (and hell, even make it a requirement to be an admiral)? Or any of the actual kings in the series (Cobra, Neptune, Riku)? Why wouldn't the other characters' reactions to it, rather than being like "OMG CoC wow that's so rare" instead be like "Oh, look, here's another one. Maybe he'll be a leader someday."?
I guess I just don't get why so many people here want a bunch of Straw Hats to get Conqueror's Haki. I always thought it was cool because it was supposed to be pretty rare, and so when you saw someone who had it, it was a big deal. If it was really so easy to get that Zoro and/or Sanji and/or Usopp end up with it as well, then it never should have been treated in-universe as such a big deal to begin with. It's also supposed to be something you're born with, and the idea that four people–or even three people, really--who were born with that potential happened to end up on a ship of nine goes past coincidence to the point of absurdity.
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Rayleigh had the loyalty of the other members of the Roger Pirates. There's a reason he was the first-mate of the crew. His authority was second only to Roger.
Usopp so far has the undying loyalty of at least 3 Giants, a tribe of Dwarves and several other strong pirates.
Him not being descendant of Noland has nothing to do with it.
If second-in-command counts for Rayleigh, why wouldn't it count for Zoro? We all know he's the closest thing the Strawhats have to a Vice Captain/ First Mate, not Ussop.
Ussop and Buggy are pretty much the same in that regard, do you think Buggy will get CoC?
I'm pointing out his lies don't always come true. The lie about Haki could just be foreshadowing him getting Haki in Dressrosa, not CoC specifically, like how despite not being Norland's descendant, he became his successor of sorts as the Tontatta saviour.
If Zoro and Sanji and Usopp get Conqueror's Haki, what reason is there that half the people in the frickin' One Piece world don't end up with it? If Luffy and multiple subordinates got it, why wouldn't any strong subordinate of any Emperor get it? After all, they (like Jack) are leaders of their own huge armies, unlike Luffy's subordinates. Why wouldn't the admirals and the fleet admirals have it, too (and hell, even make it a requirement to be an admiral)? Or any of the actual kings in the series (Cobra, Neptune, Riku)? Why wouldn't the other characters' reactions to it, rather than being like "OMG CoC wow that's so rare" instead be like "Oh, look, here's another one. Maybe he'll be a leader someday."?
I guess I just don't get why so many people here want a bunch of Straw Hats to get Conqueror's Haki. I always thought it was cool because it was supposed to be pretty rare, and so when you saw someone who had it, it was a big deal. If it was really so easy to get that Zoro and/or Sanji and/or Usopp end up with it as well, then it never should have been treated in-universe as such a big deal to begin with. It's also supposed to be something you're born with, and the idea that four people–or even three people, really--who were born with that potential happened to end up on a ship of nine goes past coincidence to the point of absurdity.
It's only natural for people with CoO to end up being common in the strongest of the seas.
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If second-in-command counts for Rayleigh, why wouldn't it count for Zoro? We all know he's the closest thing the Strawhats have to a Vice Captain/ First Mate, not Ussop.
Being the closest thing means shit. With Luffy aboard, everybody below is equal to each other, and it's hard to believe that they would place anyone else above them. Sanji doesn't listen to Zoro and vice-versa, and Nami easily bosses those two around. There's just no place for a true first-mate structure.
Oda himself has already poked fun at people who think Zoro is the First Mate through Bartolomeo.
If Zoro and Sanji and Usopp get Conqueror's Haki, what reason is there that half the people in the frickin' One Piece world don't end up with it? If Luffy and multiple subordinates got it, why wouldn't any strong subordinate of any Emperor get it? After all, they (like Jack) are leaders of their own huge armies, unlike Luffy's subordinates. Why wouldn't the admirals and the fleet admirals have it, too (and hell, even make it a requirement to be an admiral)? Or any of the actual kings in the series (Cobra, Neptune, Riku)? Why wouldn't the other characters' reactions to it, rather than being like "OMG CoC wow that's so rare" instead be like "Oh, look, here's another one. Maybe he'll be a leader someday."?
If Blackbeard has CoC, then there were three CoC members on the crew. There were three on Roger's crew, or at least three with potential if Shanks only developed his after Roger's death. Having three CoC users on the future Pirate Kings crew would just be fitting a pattern already established. It's what people seem to be overlooking, just how special the Strawhat crew are. They will be even better than the Yonkou crews.
Based on what Chinjao said, I wouldn't be surprised if Sakazuki at least had CoC. It's not supposed to be that rare in the NW.
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Being the closest thing means shit. With Luffy aboard, everybody below is equal to each other, and it's hard to believe that they would place anyone else above them. Sanji doesn't listen to Zoro and vice-versa, and Nami easily bosses those two around. There's just no place for a true first-mate structure.
Oda himself has already poked fun at people who think Zoro is the first-mate through Bartolomeo.
They barely listen to Luffy either. It's not exactly a conventional crew.
Ussop and Buggy are pretty much the same in that regard, do you think Buggy will get CoC?
Sure, why not. He might not be able to manifest it, but it's very possible that he has it.
I'm pointing out his lies don't always come true. The lie about Haki could just be foreshadowing him getting Haki in Dressrosa, not CoC specifically, like how despite not being Norland's descendant, he became his successor of sorts as the Tontatta saviour.
Usopp has a bigger claim for CoC because he is actually shown gathering loyal followers, like a king or any other leader figure does.
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They barely listen to Luffy either. It's not exactly a conventional crew.
"Barely" comes in regards to jokes and all that. In actual serious situations, Luffy's words are always final. Even when Sanji and co. were cornered by Big Mom's ship, Sanji still needed Luffy's permission to attack back.
That's why Usopp going against Luffy in Water 7 was a big deal.
why does everyone want sanji and zoro to have CH? Its cheap and boring if everyone and their mother has something like that. You should not need a specific haki-masterie to be top in the one piece world. Hell maybe oda might surprise us with a yet unknown haki not even people in the new world know about? Cause what zoro did show with his "aura" is pretty much only to him for what we know
"Barely" comes in regards to jokes and all that. In actual serious situations, Luffy's words are always final.
That's why Usopp going against Luffy in Water 7 was a big deal.
And it was Zoro who reminded Luffy, both when Ussop left the crew and when he wanted back, what his responsibilities were. The incident with Ussop, in my opinion, showed how the crew's structure and authority worked in the most serious situations, and that showed Luffy as the captain and Zoro as the second in command.
Out of curiosity do you think at Mihawk doesn't have CoC because he has no followers?
It's only natural for people with CoO to end up being common in the strongest of the seas.
You mean CoC, right?@Owain:
If Blackbeard has CoC, then there were three CoC members on the crew. There were three on Roger's crew, or at least three with potential if Shanks only developed his after Roger's death. Having three CoC users on the future Pirate Kings crew would just be fitting a pattern already established. It's what people seem to be overlooking, just how special the Strawhat crew are. They will be even better than the Yonkou crews.
Based on what Chinjao said, I wouldn't be surprised if Sakazuki at least had CoC. It's not supposed to be that rare in the NW.
Yeah, but even if Blackbeard does have it (which I actually think would be pretty hilarious if he didn't), he, Whitebeard, and Ace were three known users on a total crew of hundreds. That's still a very small fraction of the total. If it happened with the Straw Hats, if they end up with a total of, say, 12 members and 3 or 4 of them get CoC, that's 1/4 or 1/3 of the total. Much larger fraction there. Maybe it is more common in the New World, but still can't imagine that it's too common, since even the people of Dressrosa (a New World country) said they'd never seen a clash of CoC before when Luffy and Chinjao were fighting. Trebol (who'd been in the New World for years) was also surprised to see it between Luffy and Doffy.
Of course I think the Straw Hats are special, but I don't think they need of a bunch of people with Conqueror's Haki to prove that. I think the fact that they've toppled multiple hierarchies, openly defied the World Government several times, survived all the crazy shit they've gone through so far, and are gonna find Raftel somday are proof enough. (Let's face it, is there really anyone who thinks that won't happen?)
And it was Zoro who reminded Luffy, both when Ussop left the crew and when he wanted back, what his responsibilities were. The incident with Ussop, in my opinion, showed how the crew's structure and authority worked in the most serious situations, and that showed Luffy as the captain and Zoro as the second in command.
That's only because Zoro is the voice of reason. No one in the crew actually would acknowledge him as the First Mate (this is important).
Out of curiosity do you think at Mihawk doesn't have CoC because he has no followers?
People with CoC are said to have the qualities of a king. With Mihawk actually pointing out that Luffy's greatest strength was gathering allies (a king quality, without a doubt), I think it's reasonable to think that he might not have it.
Ryuma "The Swordsman King" is a good example of what a "king" is. He gained that nickname not because of strength, but because people that he saved started calling him so.
People with CoC are said to have the qualities of a king. With Mihawk actually pointing out that Luffy's greatest strength was gathering allies (a king quality, without a doubt), I think it's reasonable to think that he might not have it.
Ryuma "The Swordsman King" is a good example of what a king is. He gained that nickname not because of strength, but because people that he saved started calling him so.
I don't know, I just think CoC would have more to do with the willpower to devote yourself to a cause, like Zoro or Mihawk, than to a coward like Buggy, who gained his followers through deception. At least Ussop did actually save the Tontatta and the gladiators. Buggy having CoC over Mihawk would just leave a bad taste in my mouth.
And there's still the question that Chinjao asked: http://read.powermanga.org/read/one_piece/en/0/717/page/3
I think that Mihawk and Zoro in the future are "kings" of the sword.
I don't know, I just think CoC would have more to do with the willpower to devote yourself to a cause, like Zoro or Mihawk, than to a coward like Buggy, who gained his followers through deception. At least Ussop did actually save the Tontatta and the gladiators. Buggy having CoC over Mihawk would just leave a bad taste in my mouth.
And there's still the question that Chinjao asked: http://read.powermanga.org/read/one_piece/en/0/717/page/3
I think that Mihawk and Zoro in the future are "kings" of the sword.
All the Straw Hats are devoted themselves to a cause. Why not give CoC to all of them, then?
What's the point of a king without followers?
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, but the man himself is a loner. That's why CoC just doesn't sound appropriate to him.
I also want to see which other members of the Worst Generation end up getting Conqueror's Haki. At this point, I'm expecting Blackbeard will, and it makes perfect sense. Though I have to say, it'd also be interesting if he didn't, because that would be yet another piece of proof that he's not "the successor Roger was waiting for."
As for the other nine Supernovas, I could definitely see Kid having it. We haven't seen any evidence of it from Law so far, but I wouldn't rule it out, especially since he's a D. I'd also guess that at least a couple of the others may have it, too.
Giving CH to every competent leader would turn all those leaders who don't have it into losers in waiting. I'm almost praying to god that we get a powerful leader character who doesn't have CH. Or an influential CH user who isn't even a fighter.
Giving CH to every competent leader would turn all those leaders who don't have it into losers in waiting. I'm almost praying to god that we get a powerful leader character who doesn't have CH. Or an influential CH user who isn't even a fighter.
I feel the same way; that's why I don't want a bunch of the Straw Hats to have it and why I don't want all of the Supernovas to get it, either (certainly, at most, still less than half). Like I said, Kid and Law I could see. Actually, though, I'd like it better if Law doesn't have it. And just like with Zoro before, I say that as someone who's a fan of Law. There are other ways to establish yourself as a fearsome, strong leader than just having Conqueror's Haki, in the same way that you don't have to be a Devil Fruit user to be a powerful badass. After all, what if you happen to not be born with CoC, does that mean you should just give up before you start and never try to conquer anything or be a strong leader just because you weren't born with that certain trait?
Giving CH to every competent leader would turn all those leaders who don't have it into losers in waiting. I'm almost praying to god that we get a powerful leader character who doesn't have CH. Or an influential CH user who isn't even a fighter.
Some people are natural leaders, others aren't. That's just the way of life.
CoC is just one big metaphor. Many probably don't even realize they have it in the first place.
Giving CH to every competent leader would turn all those leaders who don't have it into losers in waiting. I'm almost praying to god that we get a powerful leader character who doesn't have CH. Or an influential CH user who isn't even a fighter.
I've longed hope that Kaido and Big Mom wouldn't have it. I still do but like WB having an Op fruit I expect to be disappointed.
I interpret the concept of "haki" as aura. Everything that exists in the One Piece universe has it. Human beings, animals, trees, rocks…
Using CoO is being able to feel the "aura" of the things surrounding you, and CoA being able to enhance it.
CoC would translate as an "aura" naturally more powerful than the one of others. Those who have it stand out: BB says that "30 million was not enough for a kid with that much haki"(vol. 25).
I wonder if the "will of D." is somehow linked to haki.
I've also thought about how "Devil fruits" are awakened. Remember the Zoan guardians of ID? What if the "spirit" of the devil fruit had taken over them? Thus, being "awakened". On the other hand, someone like Doflamingo would have managed to handle the full power of his devil fruit.
I interpret the concept of "haki" as aura. Everything that exists in the One Piece universe has it. Human beings, animals, trees, rocks…
Using CoO is being able to feel the "aura" of the things surrounding you, and CoA being able to enhance it.CoC would translate as an "aura" naturally more powerful than the one of others. Those who have it stand out: BB says that "30 million was not enough for a kid with that much haki"(vol. 25).
I wonder if the "will of D." is somehow linked to haki.
I've also thought about how "Devil fruits" are awakened. Remember the Zoan guardians of ID? What if the "spirit" of the devil fruit had taken over them? Thus, being "awakened". On the other hand, someone like Doflamingo would have managed to handle the full power of his devil fruit.
I hope " The will of D " is just a clan that went against the celestial dragons during the void century. Otherwise I agree with your Haki concept what's also interesting it doesn't seem like you can't mix DF abilities with Haki(COA hardening).
I hope " The will of D " is just a clan that went against the celestial dragons during the void century. Otherwise I agree with your Haki concept what's also interesting it doesn't seem like you can mix DF abilities with Haki.
But then how is Luffy able to do his Red Hawk? He pulls it off by activating Gear Second and then uses Armament Haki to harden his arm and it ignites. Also, what about Gear Fourth? Or were you only talking about Observation Haki and Conqueror's Haki?
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But then how is Luffy able to do his Red Hawk? He pulls it off by activating Gear Second and then uses Armament Haki to harden his arm and it ignites. Also, what about Gear Fourth? Or were you only talking about Observation Haki and Conqueror's Haki?
I was referring to COA, for Luffy it's really interesting how he does it, if you pay close attention he extends his arm with his DF then activates gear 2nd and COA which causes the fire ?? Not sure about the science but I know that if a rubber band is stretched really fast it'll get hot at the speed Luffy can do things in G2 plus COA I think thats how it works. And Gear 4th he's just inflating his muscle properties in his body not much DF action there.
I hope " The will of D " is just a clan that went against the celestial dragons during the void century. Otherwise I agree with your Haki concept what's also interesting it doesn't seem like you can't mix DF abilities with Haki.
We've got a few instances of Haki mixed with Devil Fruit abilities.
With Eneru's Lightning he could extent his Color of Observation.
Specifically for Color of Armaments though it can be argued that Hancock used Haki with her Pistol Kiss after she shot Luffy while he fell out the window. Luffy is immune to be flowers(edit auto correct lol). Immune to her abilities and bullets but when shot with that attack Luffy questioned why he felt the pain. It stands to reason that CoA was attached to the heart shaped bullet.
When Smoker was fighting Law, there is no way Law pulled that Mortal Kombat heart stealing scalpel attack without using CoA.
The next example is only my interpretation but I imagine if Kizaru was not imbuing his light sword with Haki then Rayleighs real sword would have broken through the devil fruit weapon.
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We've got a few instances of Haki mixed with Devil Fruit abilities.
With Eneru's Lightning he could extent his Color of Observation.
Specifically for Color of Armaments though it can be argued that Hancock used Haki with her Pistol Kiss after she shot Luffy while he fell out the window. Luffy is immune to be flowers essentially and bullets but when shot with that attack Luffy questioned why he felt the pain. It stands to reason that CoA was attached to the heart shaped bullet.
When Smoker was fighting Law, there is no way Law pulled that Mortal Kombat heart stealing scalpel attack without using CoA.
The next example is only my interpretation but I imagine if Kizaru was not imbuing his light sword with Haki then Rayleighs real sword would have broken through the devil fruit weapon.
My apologies I should have been more clear I was referring to COA as in the hardening aspect. I agree all those are DF mixed with Haki. Even when Akainu was being attacked by Marco and Vista he seemed to be able to counter their attacks with Haki.
