Interesting comparison. flawed in my opinion but interesting.
Tell me rusashi. Are lasers natural?
Interesting comparison. flawed in my opinion but interesting.
Tell me rusashi. Are lasers natural?
Interesting comparison. flawed in my opinion but interesting.
Tell me rusashi. Are lasers natural?
Yes they are :S, a laser is a kind of light who only emits one kind of wavelength. So laser = light.
Do you have any examples where the kind of lasers Kizaru seems to be using occurs naturally?
Because as I understood it Rusashi wanted the pure industrially refined form to be found swimming in the rivers and swinging from the treetops before he considers it "natural". Unless I'm drawing a completely erroneous conclusion from his log cabin comparison.
(Btw What was your take on wax and rubber Regular?)
Do you think Urouge knew Enel ?
Franky being weak ? Well, he is running from Kuma bot with Usopp… I don't know if it makes Franky weak, I prefer to think that Usopp is now in the same league as Franky.
I don't expect every new member to be strong but the idea of getting new crew mates loses all credibility when every single member since Sanji is weaker than the top-tier members that came before them. Brooke is fine where he is (there needs to be a bridge between the Zoros and the Usopps) but Franky, given his powers, his impressive feats in Water 7 and the potential of his fighting style, should be portrayed as a lot stronger.
Oda basically pulled the plug on Franky once the Thriller Bark arc got off its feet. The Water 7 Franky is a distant memory unfortunately.
And why is that? Luffy, Zoro and Sanji clearly had fighting experience before joining Luffy plus they fought half way around the world of course
they are gonna be stronger than the others
And seeing how Franky has the most feats besides the big 3 along with Knocking the Kuma bot to a tree with an instant coup de vent 1 chapter ago, I lol at people complaining about Franky's strenght,
0mgze yuz knt splee sux0r ide0tz!!
LOL. You are a clever girl…and a fine ass. I hope this was humor alone and not you butt hurt over another time? Either way you still failed to mock me by using my own tool against me. You should have changed it to "poster**'**s" as I only forgot an apostrophe and not the "s" that you made bold for me. I mean, the whole point is to show where I made the mistake, yes?
@They:
Brennen get the fock out a here with this crap, otherwise I want to see your ugly mug on ESPN's spelling b competition.
Though I do not consider myself to be very attractive, I am well aware I am not ugly thank you very much:
Sorry Gorlom, I wasn't trying to show the world you made a typo […] as we all make typos, especially on the internetz.
I prefer to subtly let people know they misspelled something so the world gets better at spelling.
With the amount of typo's you and half this forum toss around I would be Googling the rest of my life.
I never claimed to come down on or even care about typos, I merely do not care to Google each word I do not recognize. I could very well be part of that "half the forum" I was referring to**.** […] I do not care much for flaming.
I do not consider myself to be exempt from this, as I constantly correct myself as well. I do not ever go out of my way to show the poster or shove it in his/her face, so I do not see why you should care. Most people never even notice. I can only imagine, however, how many posts Elric might have scoured through to find it. Most errors I make aren't spelling errors either, but grammatical errors such as the one he found. I might just win your precious spelling "Spelling Bee". Haha, oops!
And why is that? Luffy, Zoro and Sanji clearly had fighting experience before joining Luffy plus they fought half way around the world of course
they are gonna be stronger than the othersAnd seeing how Franky has the most feats besides the big 3 along with Knocking the Kuma bot to a tree with an instant coup de vent 1 chapter ago, I lol at people complaining about Franky's strenght,
Agreed. Those 3 have to be super strong because their goals call for them to be absurdly powerful. Franky goal is to take the Thousand Sunny to the end of the Grandline and back. He only needs to be strong enough to survive the journey and protect the ship.
Recruiting members stronger than Sanji&Zoro makes no sense from a story telling perspective as it just shits on their character development. Zoro is the protector of every, Sanji gets shit done , and Luffy pushes himself to handle the final boss. What purpose does another Luffy or Zoro have?
Only reason it may seem Oda isn't portraying Franky as very strong is because Franky hasn't been given an opponent nearly equal in strength that he's had to push himself to defeat. He's either easily won(Fukurou), overwhelmed(Blueno,spidermonkey), or gotten a good shot at his opponents(Kuma-bot). Or Franky has gotten one-shotted by the bosses of each arc(Lucci,Oz,Kuma).
Maybe when he fights someone his equal the complaints of him not being portrayed as that strong will stop. Not like he's that distant a 4th place anyways.
Brooke is fine where he is (there needs to be a bridge between the Zoros and the Usopps)
I think that Brooke is indeed strong, maybe near to Sanji and perhaps stronger than Franky and Robin. For sure Brooke is stronger than Nami, Usopp and Chopper.
Only because there is a big distance between Zoro and Brooke doesn’t mean that Brooke is weak. He was one who wasn’t unconscious after Kumas big shockwave and he performed a nice damage at Oz within the combo attack.
Raffit seems to me the strongest in the Blackbeard crew and Brook will be most likely the rival for Raffit. I guess lots of won’t accept my opinion but anyhow I think he is much stronger than many think.
if raffit is the most strongest in BB crew, than he will probably be much too strong for brooke, i think that brooke is indeed strong, but not strong enough for the strongest man of BB crew
if raffit is the most strongest in BB crew, than he will probably be much too strong for brooke, i think that brooke is indeed strong, but not strong enough for the strongest man of BB crew
I mean he is the most strongest after Blackbeard. Further I think that there will be stronger characters than Raffit once the Strawhats meets them. Since Blackbeard is one of the Shichibukai they will get assistance from another Shichibukai or one admiral.
could be, but i doubt that brooke will be as strong as raffit
I always pictured Van Auger as second strongest. Idky though. O.o
I've always pictured Blackbeard as the second strongest.
[hide]We all know Stronger is stronger then Blackbeard. :ninja:[/hide]
I don’t see a scar from Sanji on the Kumabot. Maybe we see it next time and then you can become anger. But for now it’s too early to use this situation for compare.
How do you know that the scars are from Luffy and Zoro. In the pictures where they attack all of them are pointing in the middle of Kumabot. So we can't say who made the scar on his right shoulder and the one in the middle.
All three of them attacked the center. The rip was probably from his landing.
All three of them attacked the center. The rip was probably from his landing.
Thanks that U agree with me
@ Besserwisser
Brook near Sanji. Never and when you read the manga with some mind U would see that.
Brook is MAYBE near Franky level or equal but below the other 3.
The way Franky and Brook always react shows this. Brook more than Franky,
Easy. I think this has been one of the weakest arcs we've gotten.
Why?????????????????????????
@ Besserwisser
Brook near Sanji. Never and when you read the manga with some mind U would see that.
I see that possible, but for you I have write the word “maybe” and hoped that this is enough to burke a discussion about strength.
How do you know that the scars are from Luffy and Zoro. In the pictures where they attack all of them are pointing in the middle of Kumabot. So we can't say who made the scar on his right shoulder and the one in the middle.
All three of them attacked the center. The rip was probably from his landing.
First of all, the scratch from Zoro was wider, like the one on Thriller Bark in Chapter 485. We know that he can make this kind of damage, so it’s obvious. Further it shows that swords are more effective against Steel (that doesn’t mean that I put Zoro above Luffy, anyone has his own special filed). You know, to meet exactly the same spot if tree people hit on the same time without from afar is quite impossible. For me it looks like Zoro hit left, Luffy in the middle and Sanji top right.
No you wouldn't since my whole argument for it was that it was unique for that fruit…
In this case the non-cannon, filler-arc "sickle sickle" fruit would come to mind. It was a paramecia. I can't belive you are actually making this argument that "because the power is based on light it must be a logia"... What if light is just a biproduct? what if its a sun paramecia? a flash dial zoan or what the friggin ever? :getlost: Do yourself a favour and let brennen handle the pro Logia side of the discussion.
I can. Luffy (rubber), Mr 3 (wax), Calipha (bubbles), and one of the captains during EL buster call (rust).
And that is excluding the recent DF's in shabondy such as magnetism, music (possibly), ageing/timecontroll and straw.
No I didn't. Read my post again please.
So you're saying Oda invented a whole new way to depict speed just for the purposes of developing Kizaru as character? Do yourself a favor a check into a mental hospital….
Your farfetched arguments are ridiculous... I don't think you're doing any favors for people by representing the nonlogia side of the argument. Literally out of the thousands of artists that draw manga.. none have or will ever depict great speed in that manner... what a joke of an argument you make...
Rubber/Wax/Bubbles.. do occur in nature.. but they are much more common in form as a creation of man. How much of the world's rubber is natural would you say? .0000001%? or even less? So when we say someone has a rubber fruit.. would it seem very natural to the common reader? or even the Manga artist? Will they be thinking.."Oh yeah tree sap! Rubber is in tree sap.. sometimes!" I don't no where you get these ridiculous argument. Please stop shaming the nonlogia side of the argument.
Ice/Electricity/Fire is also made by man.. why don't we just call them Paramecia too then?
I'm sure given your small mind.. you will probably say.. well your argument can be reversed.. Ice/Electricty/Fire are much more common in the forms created by man.. yeah.. true.. that.. but these things represent nature in a way rubber/wax don't. Lighting/Forest fires/Glaciers are very obvious scenes from nature that normal human beings would identify with nature. Since you're not very normal... I guess I need to point this out so You don't waste your time making this argument.
I see that possible, but for you I have write the word “maybe” and hoped that this is enough to burke a discussion about strength.
First of all, the scratch from Zoro was wider, like the one on Thriller Bark in Chapter 485. We know that he can make this kind of damage, so it’s obvious. Further it shows that swords are more effective against Steel (that doesn’t mean that I put Zoro above Luffy, anyone has his own special filed). You know, to meet exactly the same spot if tree people hit on the same time without from afar is quite impossible. For me it looks like Zoro hit left, Luffy in the middle and Sanji top right.
So I need glasses…
And for swords being more effective... Heat or Fire are melting metal... But OK... I lost hope to discuss with you
All three of them attacked the center. The rip was probably from his landing.
I also agree with this. I'm not sure if the rip came directly from the landing… but I feel like all 3 attacked the same/similar area of Kuma. This would be the point of doing the attack together, to apply the greatest amount of force to a small area for maximum damage.
I only wish they had done this attack on the real Kuma (assuming he didn't just dodge or block using hs DF)... now that would have been something to see.
@The Kizaru ability 'dicsussion' (at the moment)
@The Kizaru ability 'dicsussion' (at the moment)
SRSLY WAT?:blink:
I think that Brooke is indeed strong, maybe near to Sanji and perhaps stronger than Franky and Robin. For sure Brooke is stronger than Nami, Usopp and Chopper.
Only because there is a big distance between Zoro and Brooke doesn’t mean that Brooke is weak. He was one who wasn’t unconscious after Kumas big shockwave and he performed a nice damage at Oz within the combo attack.
Raffit seems to me the strongest in the Blackbeard crew and Brook will be most likely the rival for Raffit. I guess lots of won’t accept my opinion but anyhow I think he is much stronger than many think.
Brooke appears stronger than Franky and near Sanji? What series are you watching? Brooke is cool as hell but in strength he at best rivals Chopper's Horn&Arm point for the distant 5th strongest SH. I'm extremely confused how anyone could put Brooke anywhere near Sanji.
How does Raffit seem to be the strongest besides BB? Burgeiss jumped over 30 feet in the air holding an entire Hotel then threw it at Ace. Both he and Auger act like their the First mates from time to time. All Raffit's done is show he's really fast&stealthy.
Well the real Kuma would have just teleported from all those attacks.
What series are you watching?, iirc Brooke took out the SpiderMonkey-thing in one hit?(which both Franky and Robin were losing against)
And the way I see it, is'nt Brook supposed to be the faster 'alternative' to Zoro?
EDIT: This was in response to Ryksgelus' post.
Purifying is a bit different than killing it in one blow.
Franky was destroying the Spidermonkey, its not his fault zombies are immortal regardless of the damage they take.
No he's not a faster version of Zoro. Zoro's speed isn't emphasized like his strength or Brooke's agility, but he's obviously fast enough to keep up with Kaku and Ryuuma fighting seriously.
Based from everything we've seen of Brooke its obvious his power,speed, and definitely durability are nothing compared to the Monster Trio and Franky is not exactly far below those three.
@The Kizaru ability 'dicsussion' (at the moment)
LOL.. Hahaha that's pretty cute…. Okay I'll stop being a maniac... just because of that cat....
So you're saying Oda invented a whole new way to depict speed just for the purposes of developing Kizaru as character? Do yourself a favor a check into a mental hospital….
Your farfetched arguments are ridiculous... I don't think you're doing any favors for people by representing the nonlogia side of the argument. Literally out of the thousands of artists that draw manga.. none have or will ever depict great speed in that manner... what a joke of an argument you make...
Rubber/Wax/Bubbles.. do occur in nature.. but they are much more common in form as a creation of man. How much of the world's rubber is natural would you say? .0000001%? or even less? So when we say someone has a rubber fruit.. would it seem very natural to the common reader? or even the Manga artist? Will they be thinking.."Oh yeah tree sap! Rubber is in tree sap.. sometimes!" I don't no where you get these ridiculous argument. Please stop shaming the nonlogia side of the argument.
Ice/Electricity/Fire is also made by man.. why don't we just call them Paramecia too then?
I'm sure given your small mind.. you will probably say.. well your argument can be reversed.. Ice/Electricty/Fire are much more common in the forms created by man.. yeah.. true.. that.. but these things represent nature in a way rubber/wax don't. Lighting/Forest fires/Glaciers are very obvious scenes from nature that normal human beings would identify with nature. Since you're not very normal... I guess I need to point this out so You don't waste your time making this argument.
Do.. do you know how to read? Do you stop midway and then make the rest up? Or what is going on?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
I like how you attempt to turn my comment about you leaving the arguing to brennen around and using that to say that I'm hurting my point.
Weren't you upset about people not reading your theories before bashing them or something like that earlier in this thread? .. Oh how I love irony :wub:
Ice/Electricity/Fire is also made by man.. why don't we just call them Paramecia too then?
Why would I do that? Why did you even get into this? You asked for "natural" paramecia and I give you examples, then you go on and on about something completely besides the point as if you are trying to sweep it under the rug.
Oda even said in an SBS that Luffy was made of natural rubber. So any point you try to make about artificial rubber is moot.
you will probably say.. well your argument can be reversed
No not really. Imo it has nothing to do with anything so it's not even worth countering.
And what's up with all the insults about my mental health? Shouldn't you atleast make sure you understand my points before you attack my person?
Ice/Electricity/Fire is also made by man.. why don't we just call them Paramecia too then?
I don't really care which way you put it, but none of these things are 'made' by man. They were all here before us, lol.
So I need glasses…
And for swords being more effective... Heat or Fire are melting metal... But OK... I lost hope to discuss with you
I thought that Sanjis attacks make inner damage. Further the alloy from Kumaclone is stronger than metal. If you think about the clue that Luffy with one of his strongest attacks make only a little scratch it isn’t weak that Sanji doesn’t make a scratch if we don’t see one in the next time. It demonstrates only the hardness from the kumaclon.
Brooke appears stronger than Franky and near Sanji? What series are you watching? Brooke is cool as hell but in strength he at best rivals Chopper's Horn&Arm point for the distant 5th strongest SH. I'm extremely confused how anyone could put Brooke anywhere near Sanji.
For this time we don’t know enough to rate Brooke properly. I have used the word maybe and probably for Franky and Sanji, so I don’t see your Problem. So I am unsure about Brooke and hope that I see his capability in his next big duel.
How does Raffit seem to be the strongest besides BB? Burgeiss jumped over 30 feet in the air holding an entire Hotel then threw it at Ace. Both he and Auger act like their the First mates from time to time. All Raffit's done is show he's really fast&stealthy.
Because he have guts and drive alone to the meeting from the Shichibukai. Also we heard that he have a Name that get about, he is also quite famous. Further he doesn’t make dumb actions against Ace.
Rockstar had guts to go meet Whitebeard. Rockstar IZ TEH 2ND STRONGIST REDHAER!!!!!
Edit: Sanji's Diable attacks burn through outer defenses and as a byproduct causes inner damage since it burns what was on the outside to protect it. Though in this case I don't believe that Diable Jambe is hot enough to melt steel yet.
For this time we don’t know enough to rate Brooke properly. I have used the word maybe and probably for Franky and Sanji, so I don’t see your Problem. So I am unsure about Brooke and hope that I see his capability in his next big duel.
Because he have guts and drive alone to the meeting from the Shichibukai. Also we heard that he have a Name that get about, he is also quite famous. Further he doesn’t make dumb actions against Ace.
I'm guessing English isn't your first language but I'll try to respond anyways.
The problem is theres no "maybe" or "probably" about it. Brooke is nowhere near Sanji or even Franky's level. I don't understand how you can say we can't rate Brooke's strength. He was going 110% against Ryuuma who was trying to go easy on Brooke.
What you saw against Ryuuma was all Brooke had. Franky has gone up against Fukurou, Spider Monkey, Blueno, and even Luffy and hasn't exerted himself once. Comparing Brooke to Sanji is still baffling to me and probably everyone. Sanji is only a little weaker than Zoro so he could actually handle Ryuuma at full strength too.
As for Raffit ZKaiser's referencing Rockstar fits perfectly. All sneaking into Sengoku's meeting tells us is that his stealth skills are Elite. How is not attacking Ace a sign of strength. That can easily go the other way. As for his name and rep only some random bueracrat had heard of him.
Rockstar had guts to go meet Whitebeard. Rockstar IZ TEH 2ND STRONGIST REDHAER!!!!!
Yes that right. However we don’t know how strong Rockstar is. He could be really strong despite he has an average head money and look dumb. Anyhow I don’t think he is the second strongest because we know a few crewmates where we can assume that they are ways stronger than Rockstar.
@Ryuksgelus:
I'm guessing English isn't your first language but I'll try to respond anyways.
Your right in this point.
The problem is theres no "maybe" or "probably" about it. Brooke is nowhere near Sanji or even Franky's level.
What series are you watching?, iirc Brooke took out the SpiderMonkey-thing in one hit?(which both Franky and Robin were losing against)
You see, it gives arguments for Brooke to be stronger than Franky and Robin. I support this argument.
I don't understand how you can say we can't rate Brooke's strength. He was going 110% against Ryuuma who was trying to go easy on Brooke.
What you saw against Ryuuma was all Brooke had.
Your right that we see Brook with all going out, but Zorro is quite a Monster, over the top. The most are weaklings against him. Ryuuma was a legend. In my opinion was his strength really near at Oz. We have only see Zoro and Brooke fight against Ryuuma. At Frankys mien we could see that he were chanceless against Ryuuma, too. Against Oz Brooke was quite good, too. So it give no evidence how strong Brooke really is. His problem is that his only duel was against an enemy who was over the top.
As of now it is too soon to judge Brook. He is currently being used as comic relief device so it is near impossible to judge his true strength. Putting Brook against Ryuuma is a little unfair. Ryuuma had the body of an ancient powerful samurai whose strength was rival to that of Zoro's. Brook will never be on the level of Zoro but to put him next to Franky isn't that far of a stretch. Luffy,Zoro,Sanji,Franky,Brook,Robin,Usopp,Nami,Chopper. That's the current order Monster,Weirdo,Weak.High, Mid, Low. Brook did take out Taleran with Yahazu Giri while Franky's Pillar-Chucks were pretty much ineffective.
Edit:@Besserwisser:
Ryuuma was a legend. In my opinion was his strength really near at Oz. We have only see Zoro and Brooke fight against Ryuuma. At Frankys mien we could see that he were chanceless against Ryuuma, too. Against Oz Brooke was quite good, too. So it give no evidence how strong Brooke really is. His problem is that his only duel was against an enemy who was over the top.
That first line is bullshit. Odz one-shotted Zoro. Zoro>Ryuuma. Amirite? Or amirong?
But I do agree with the rest of the quote.
Purifying is a bit different than killing it in one blow.
Franky was destroying the Spidermonkey, its not his fault zombies are immortal regardless of the damage they take.
No he's not a faster version of Zoro. Zoro's speed isn't emphasized like his strength or Brooke's agility, but he's obviously fast enough to keep up with Kaku and Ryuuma fighting seriously.
Based from everything we've seen of Brooke its obvious his power,speed, and definitely durability are nothing compared to the Monster Trio and Franky is not exactly far below those three.
Alright you got me, I was just so annoyed at your previous comment that I did'nt bother checking.
Still, I while he is'nt THAT strong, I think it's a bit unfair to say that he's at best around Chopper's strongest levels of strength(excluding 'Monster Point'). Besides, to get to that level Chopper needs a drug-Brooke already has his strength and technique in the first place(not to mention that the Rumble Ball can is on a six hour cycle anyway(correct me if i'm wrong)).
I don't even see the point of comparing strengths anyway, considering the Monster Trio have the least use outside of fighting (with the exception of Sanji, but even then he is'nt strictly needed, Nami cooked before he joined iirc).
I don't see why its unfair to use Ryuuma to rate Brooke's strength.
It allowed us to see how good Brooke's reflexe's were, his speed, his power, and his agility. Ryuma was trying his best to keep the fight fair for Brooke. What better way to rate a persons strength than a nearly equal fight where one fighter has to push himself as far as he can go to survive?
Theres a reason Franky and Zoro took their fights(fukurou&Ryuma) outside and its because battles between these guys can't be contained in confined rooms when they get serious. On a power scale Franky seems closer to Sanji&Zoro than Chopper&Brooke.
Still, I while he is'nt THAT strong, I think it's a bit unfair to say that he's at Chopper/Robin/Usopp level.
Other than jumping 50 feet into the air and running really fast on water what superhuman feats has Brooke showed us? I said he's at best comparable to Chopper's Horn&Arm point forms, but even Ussop&Robin could take Brooke but stand no chance against Franky(grabbing his balls doens't count)
Edit: That first line is bullshit. Odz one-shotted Zoro. Zoro>Ryuuma. Amirite? Or amirong?
But I do agree with the rest of the quote.
Brook mentioned that Ryuuma and Zoro have the same power of destruction, so I would say Zoro=Ryuuma. Further Zoro had the perfect technique to beat one zombie of Ryuumas size. Because Zoro could take a hit from Oz and could stand up short after that it is clear that Ryuuma can stand up after this, too. Because Ryuuma is a Zombie who even doesn’t feel pain he would stand up, without an expression of pain. But how I said, this is my opinion and so nobody must share this with me.
I don't see why its unfair to use Ryuuma to rate Brooke's strength.
Then think about it again.
Other than jumping 50 feet into the air and running really fast on water what superhuman feats has Brooke showed us?
He showed us that he be awareness after the big shockwave from Kuma and he gored Oz within a combo attack.
Now you're being ignorant about some of your points, Ryuk. He can jump high because hes 'just bones'(75% of your body is water(more specifically it takes up most of your wieght)). Same with the sprinting across the moat, hes simply much lighter, hardly 'superhuman'.
Something I would like to add to the Brook strength thingy:
Well, first of all I do not think we have enough evidence to compare Brooke and Franky. But outside of that, I do think Brooke and Franky are at the least equal (in their own ways).
On TB we saw that Moria and Co. seemed to pick and choose which shadows they put in which bodies since they didn't want to waste strong bodies right? Well considering that, we can say that Brooke is a very high level fighter since they put his shadow into Ryuuma.
The only difference between Ryuuma and Brooke was that Ryuuma's body was much stronger (much like Zoro's). His skill and agility however are very high, so though he might not be as physically strong as Franky we do know that his agility and skill make up for that and make him a somewhat equal level fighter. Franky will always have a different type of opponent than Brooke, and vice versa. So perhaps Brooke is weaker than Franky, but he is much faster and more skilled in his own ways. Easily middle-tier, and much stronger than Ussop / Nami / Chopper. I would say the whole lineup would go:
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > Franky >/= Brooke > Robin > Ussop > Chopper = Nami
note: This is just my opinion. I find it hard to compare the lower tier fighters since they all have their own styles of fighting w/ strengths and weaknesses. I do think that Ussop is the top level (of the bottom level) though.
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36219
People should read that. That guy speaks the truth and has very interesting theories.
I don't see why its unfair to use Ryuuma to rate Brooke's strength.
It allowed us to see how good Brooke's reflexe's were, his speed, his power, and his agility. Ryuma was trying his best to keep the fight fair for Brooke. What better way to rate a persons strength than a nearly equal fight where one fighter has to push himself as far as he can go to survive?
Theres a reason Franky and Zoro took their fights(fukurou&Ryuma) outside and its because battles between these guys can't be contained in confined rooms when they get serious. On a power scale Franky seems closer to Sanji&Zoro than Chopper&Brooke.
Other than jumping 50 feet into the air and running really fast on water what superhuman feats has Brooke showed us? I said he's at best comparable to Chopper's Horn&Arm point forms, but even Ussop&Robin could take Brooke but stand no chance against Franky(grabbing his balls doens't count)
His Arrow notch strike did more damage to that Monkey zombie than any move Franky used against it and at the same time put salt in it's mouth in between, he did both those things in an instant
And Brooke being among the Tier of Chopper? Ryuuma Instant Pwn all Three of the Weak Trio with an unlethal 'back of the sword" Arrow Notch Strike, while Brooke took the real thing and was still conscious and at least fought Ryuuma for while before hand
Wow, this thread has gone to hell in a hand basket.
Easy. I think this has been one of the weakest arcs we've gotten.
Would you say your not particularly inclined to come all over it?
@Deltron:
You would know Phenom.
Since when did feces here, sprout arms and learn how to type on a on a keyboard?
Kuma bot for nakama ! :-D
He has the Wow ! effect on Luffy and Chopper so he should join !
Since when did feces here, sprout arms and learn how to type on a on a keyboard?
His Arrow notch strike did more damage to that Monkey zombie than any move Franky used against it and at the same time put salt in it's mouth in between, he did both those things in an instant
And Brooke being among the Tier of Chopper? Ryuuma Instant Pwn all Three of the Weak Trio with an unlethal 'back of the sword" Arrow Notch Strike, while Brooke took the real thing and was still conscious and at least fought Ryuuma for while before hand
Pretty sure the spider was getting worked big time by franky. So you can't argue about that at all. Brook also used his most powerful move as a surprise attack non less, while what did franky do. Just messing around. didn't use his coup de vent, or his monster shells.
And about Brook taking the hit and Chopper not able to. Um first chopper was scared and small, and didn't know he was even being attacked. Plus we don't know what level of attack ryuuma used against them. Most likely weaker though considering did use back of sword.
But we know that he wasn't fighting full against Brook, thus he didn't use the arrow notch strike to full potential either against brook. He does use it full power against Zoro during their fight. If he would have used it full power against brook, I'm sure brook would have died, thus Ryuuma as well. Even brook states that he wasn't even trying, and I'm sure that is referance to last attack as well.
Edit: btw why is this being discussed about in the 509 chapter?