the point of the TV deal would be to attract new fans though, not to mention those let down by 4Kids, so they would likely be unaware of the switch.
Funi TV Discussion (Saturday Night/Sunday Morning 1:00 a.m., USA Toonami)
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Well if you ask me anyone who doesn't know that Funimation is dubbing the series can't be too much of a One Piece fan, or a real One Piece fan anyway…
this is the dumbest dumb thing I've ever read
YER NOT REAL FANZ ANYWAY CUZ YOU DUNNO EVARTHING ABOUT IT
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Please, that's not even the dumbest thing said in this thread.
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Excuse me then, most conceited.
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this is the dumbest dumb thing I've ever read
YER NOT REAL FANZ ANYWAY CUZ YOU DUNNO EVARTHING ABOUT IT
Okay, perhaps it was a bit stupid. But you think people who like something would at least know when a proper dub is out, don't you think? And don't give me that "I'm smarter than yer cuz I made fun of ya on da internetz" shit. That's even stupider than my post.
I'm not talking about trivial immature stuff like "I know Zoro's attack used on Mr. 1 in Alabasta! I'm cool and a better fan than you! Harharhar!"
I'm talking about "Hey dude, I thought Sanji sucked on a lolipop all the time. Wow, when did he start smoking?" IMO, fans should research the thing they like at least to the point in knowing when a better dub is available.
While we're on the subject of naive 4Kids lovers, have a look at these highly intelligent quotes off my Youtube videos:
no mam…. hey guys, funimation...
HAVE U SEEN ONE PIECE(JAPANESE VERSION) CAUSE IT SUCKS!!!!!! ALSO SOUL EATER, PLEASE, ATLEAST HEAR THE ORIGINAL VOICE JUST DONT USE ANYONE VOICE.... THATS WHY I DNT SEE ANYMORE IT, COME ON GUYS, TRY TO DO IT BETTER, WHAT ARE YOU THINKIN?jesus their voices are soooo annoying
even the 4kids one was better, and they made sanj talk like he was from fucking new york.. lol
The last part has nothing to do with this debate, it's just for the hoos and haws. I get a kick out of it anyway.
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Okay, perhaps it was a bit stupid. But you think people who like something would at least know when a proper dub is out, don't you think?
I'd look for the posts about the 12 year old kid who made a site about damning FUNi for "changing" One Piece when they first got the rights, so he wanted to make a petition to give it BACK to 4kids!, buuuuut I think that's explanation enough.
@Chopperrules:And don't give me that "I'm smarter than yer cuz I made fun of ya on da internetz" shit. That's even stupider than my post.
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I'd look for the posts about the 12 year old kid who made a site about damning FUNi for "changing" One Piece when they first got the rights, so he wanted to make a petition to give it BACK to 4kids!, buuuuut I think that's explanation enough.
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Wow, I never thought I'd see the day when Funimation was accused of "changing" One Piece. oO Well the kid's only 12 so you have to at least give him some credit for being smart enough to actually make a petition. :ninja:
Hey, at least ya gotz a sense er humor, dude. xD
Make sure you read my Funi basher quotes above. It'll only add to the 12 year old incident.
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every single person i had showed the funi dub too said "hey i thought sanji sucked lolipops, when did he start smoking?" so annoying
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every single person i had showed the funi dub too said "hey i thought sanji sucked lolipops, when did he start smoking?" so annoying
^ And there we have living proof. Thanks.
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Wasn't that site made as a joke by Quexinos?
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nah, she and dim runt did some lame movie 9 thing though
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No, the site with the person saying FUNi ruined the 4kids version was indeed Q. Or so she says.
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If so that sounds like a sick joke. Who is this person anyway? Is it that girl who has the really… girly avitar?
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Hey . I found out while looking for stuff on the web that Ray Gestaut does voice acting for OP for funimation . Anyone have a clip of what he's done ?
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I want One Piece to find a channel where they show "Both" opening and Endings, so F*** Disney XD for a channel spot. I like the Ending to the first Naruto Shippuden show and i like all of the One Piece endings as well….I dont like watching AD's for shitty shows on your shitty network CN, XD, Disney BS, CartoonetShits. I dont care bout your shitty reruns or full marathon of what im "Not" going to watch, im watching "my" show F*** off. Seriously.(What really pisses me off is that they run these Ad's and end them "Right Before" the song ends!)
I want to be able to watch full One Piece through
8:00- Opening
8:03- 8:27 Episode/Show
8:27-8:30- Ending
(this is how i base all my shows in terms of time)Seriously, i dont give a shit about your other shows whether i watch them or not, i want my "Full" episode of OP Bitch!
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they wouldn't keep the ending themes if they had a tv deal anyways because it may mean having to pay those artist more plus kids don't have the attention spans to sit through 1 and a half mins for a preview.
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And yet in Japan they do .
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It's the sugar…and the obesity.
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One of my friends thinks that the Funimation voices suck and the 4kids ones are better
! That is, better than the Japanese voices.
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One of my friends thinks that the Funimation voices suck and the 4kids ones are better
! That is, better than the Japanese voices.
Well there's a simple solution to this. Your friend doesn't like One Piece. They like "Squirt Gun Rap Pirates".
Because 4Piece really is a different show.
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I know, I know. I've tried understanding, but I just can't. Must be Zolo, since his voice is the only passable one, even if all I can piture him saying is, "Hey Luffy bro what's hangin'? I'm gonna go guzzle some cactus juice and drive my Buick to Santa Ryu." (5 cool points if you get the pun)
That and he said Chopper should change voices when his size changes.
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I understood Japanese Sanji better than 4Kids Sanji and Japanese Sanji is speaking a language I can't understand.
Just saying.
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Its Sad One Piece isnt on TV anymore.
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people who actually liked 4piece are very frustrating. i feel your pain. i mean i enjoyed 4kid's one piece, but only until i knew about the japanese version (i didn't know that anime came from japan when i was 8 lol) then i liked it only because it was one piece.
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One of my friends thinks that the Funimation voices suck and the 4kids ones are better
! That is, better than the Japanese voices.
Holy shit, no offense to your friend man, but I just can't compute with that. It goes to show that you can never understand some people's way of thinking no matter how hard you try.
He may not like the original voices because they speak a different language and he doesn't want to bother with subtitles?
Well there's a simple solution to this. Your friend doesn't like One Piece. They like "Squirt Gun Rap Pirates".
Because 4Piece really is a different show.
I don't even think "show" is the appropriate word for that… Now a days I would be more content watching an episode of Barney or Sesame Street over 4Piece, even if it DID come from the thing I love.
I know, I know. I've tried understanding, but I just can't. Must be Zolo, since his voice is the only passable one, even if all I can piture him saying is, "Hey Luffy bro what's hangin'? I'm gonna go guzzle some cactus juice and drive my Buick to Santa Ryu." (5 cool points if you get the pun)
That and he said Chopper should change voices when his size changes.
Stupid 4Kids and that Chopper thing. If his clothes don't stay the same when he changes, why on earth would his voice adapt with him?
Admittedly 4Kids did start off my liking One piece a few years back. When I first saw a few glimpses, it was just enough to get me to watch a few more episodes. I already had experience with 4kids and Yu-Gi-Oh!, how they screwed that up quite a bit, so I did some research and found out just how badly it was changed. I then started buying the manga, then purchases a bootleg set before I knew of fansubs, then went to Kaizoku fansubs and Vegapunk, then my own group, and finally I've landed on legal island with buying the Funimation sets.
And I must say, nothing beats the first time you watch One Piece unfold. I love the series no matter how many times I watch it, but I really do miss that sensation of not knowing what's going to happen next.
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Certainly 4kids got a lot of us into One Piece. I thought it was cool when I saw the 4kids version, and even their song got me into the series (Gotta go! Set sail for One Piece!). But like most things I like, I quickly jumped online to start researching it. I found out how far ahead the Japanese version was, and how much ass the 4kids version blew in comparison, and instantly started hating it. Ba-Boom, here we are.
He may not like the original voices because they speak a different language and he doesn't want to bother with subtitles?
No, it's certainly not that. Even now I can't convince him that the English Disgaea series VAs are good. He's a much bigger anime nut than I (me only having a select few series that I like), he just doen't care too much about OP. Sad, but true, story.
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Who gives a shit? Really?
So his freind likes 4Kids' One Piece over the original, big deal.
I know many people that are like that too.
It's not some mind bungling mystery that'll never be solved.
Most people don't scan cartoons as hard as anime fans do. The simple fact that it was in English (and the Japanese version isn't) is why the average joe and kiddies will prefer the 4Kids version. It's happened to me constantly, but I don't consider it some big mystery. It's just how the mainstream are.
Now with Funimation, I swear to you the only thing that will sway most mainstream people is the blood and language. Other than that, most people won't give two shits about the original score, more "serious" voices… etc. etc.... Which is why I'm sure FUNi's Piece's brief time in CN ended the way it did (well, that and CN being pricks). I mean, shit, quite a number of my freinds were COMPLAINING that Sanji sounds like a "fag" now, as opposed to when he had his 4Kids voice. So... yeah.
Seriously, come one, Bakugan is a popular show. BAKUGAN. And that show's production values and quality BLOW.
I'm tellin' ya, most people (mostly kids) really don't care about "quality" as you all think they do. But it ain't a mystery.
People are just like that.
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Certainly 4kids got a lot of us into One Piece. I thought it was cool when I saw the 4kids version, and even their song got me into the series (Gotta go! Set sail for One Piece!). But like most things I like, I quickly jumped online to start researching it. I found out how far ahead the Japanese version was, and how much ass the 4kids version blew in comparison, and instantly started hating it. Ba-Boom, here we are.
No, it's certainly not that. Even now I can't convince him that the English Disgaea series VAs are good. He's a much bigger anime nut than I (me only having a select few series that I like), he just doen't care too much about OP. Sad, but true, story.
Who gives a shit? Really?
So his freind likes 4Kids' One Piece over the original, big deal.
I know many people that are like that too.
It's not some mind bungling mystery that'll never be solved.
Most people don't scan cartoons as hard as anime fans do. The simple fact that it was in English (and the Japanese version isn't) is why the average joe and kiddies will prefer the 4Kids version. It's happened to me constantly, but I don't consider it some big mystery. It's just how the mainstream are.
Now with Funimation, I swear to you the only thing that will sway most mainstream people is the blood and language. Other than that, most people won't give two shits about the original score, more "serious" voices… etc. etc.... Which is why I'm sure FUNi's Piece's brief time in CN ended the way it did (well, that and CN being pricks). I mean, shit, quite a number of my freinds were COMPLAINING that Sanji sounds like a "fag" now, as opposed to when he had his 4Kids voice. So... yeah.
Seriously, come one, Bakugan is a popular show. BAKUGAN. And that show's production values and quality BLOW.
I'm tellin' ya, most people (mostly kids) really don't care about "quality" as you all think they do. But it ain't a mystery.
People are just like that.
Well you can never guess what people are thinking. It's just best to let them do their thing I suppose.
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Well there's a simple solution to this. Your friend doesn't like One Piece.They like "Squirt Gun Rap Pirates".
Squirt Gun Rap Pirates is pretty cool guy, eh drink POWER JUICE! and doesnt afraid of anything.
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Well put it this way, I though 4Piece was super gay. I didnt give a shit about the shows voice acting or anything….2005 i was like...12 or 13 but yea. The only thing i enjoyed was the....Pir...ate...Rap.....RAH!
Loved it man....i would wait till 9:00 just to watch "Yai-yo Yai-yo" blast my TV screen. Funny thing is i never would give the show 2 seconds lol. I would go to 4Shits[dot]com just to listen to the opening….im so ashamed.
But thanks to Tsukento's "Worst 4Kids dub moments" I am now full FUNi-Anti4shits- and full on Funimation One Piece!
"Yai-yo Yai-yo...Dreamin!" XD
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You make me feel old. :sad:
They make me feel old too. Kinda the problem when dealing with a series that's been running as long as it has. It's sorta like saying you thought the Simpson's were funnier when they were on Tracey Ullman.
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Squirt Gun Rap Pirates is pretty cool guy, eh drink POWER JUICE! and doesnt afraid of anything.
Don't forget about his amazing power to stop villains with his super sweat and alter the scar on his face to various regions of his body.
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I was trying to distance myself from 4piece. I'm not old at all.
It shows when you say the 4kids dubbing happened "WAY" back in the day. :pouty:
Edit: Bonita, I think you still have be beat by a bit.
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Ikue Otani DOES lower her voice when Chopper transforms. Christ, we went over that with a freaking spectrum analyzer!
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I remember seeing the 4kids version on TV where Luffy defeats croc. Honestly, that thing blew my mind and it was edited too. Now I'm here, a One Piece fan that hated that dub after Funi took over. It's really too bad it was short lived.
Like I said, if this is going to be back on TV, there's alot of episodes to catch up on… Alot of episodes to meet a particular rating. That alone is going to be hard, unless there's a "hook" that is bound to draw in some fans.
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Premiere 4 new episodes in a row. Naruto got that and got good ratings.
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Start from the beginning. Run the episodes in two hour blocks for seven days a week until they run out.
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Start from the beginning. Run the episodes in two hour blocks for seven days a week until they run out.
That's a little much, I mean we don't need THAT much One Piece on t.V.
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Wow, I just realized something watching the new DVD that came out (Season Two- Forth Voyage).
We all know 4Kids changed Luffy's blood to sweat in the final fight with Croc.
However, what I didn't know is that they actually planned it and foreshadowed it! It's weird, an edit that was actually planned!
In that filler episode where Luffy, Zoro and Chopper end up in that crypt… In the original version, Luffy likes the underground cause it's cool inside. I checked the 4Kids version of the same episode and they have it so that he's complaining about the lack of air making him sweat even more than he was outside. And they even added sweat.
Now this was also done in the final fight, but I didn't know they foreshadowed it in an earlier episode... I know it's still an edit but I'm actually surprised they put thought into that instead of just randomly pulling it out in the fight.
Just something I noticed, anyways... I remember everyone was wondering what they would use in place of blood for that fight...
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Ha, keen eye. Old dubbing companies used to do that sort of stuff a lot. Sometimes it they'd have the gift of hindsight and be able to tweak things the original production might have needed clarity on, but sweating in a cave more than outside in a desert is just awful.
(Hindsight would have been good with the whole Zoro doesn't cut steel thing.)
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That's a little much, I mean we don't need THAT much One Piece on t.V.
Fool, there's no such thing as too much One Piece ever!
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adultswim says they got a new anime in February it would be nice if it was onepiece
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That'd be really REALLY nice, but it's just wishful thinking.
I don't wana say the chance is 0 that it'll be One Piece, I mean a lot of us never thought 4kids would lose the license and look what happened there. So it is Possible, but the chances are EXTREMELY slim.
The only chance it has is the fact that AS isn't run by CN, it's run by Williams Street and even though it airs on CN, it's legally its own entity. And if the WS guys decided to get OP, then they decided to get OP.
Before Anyone says "But it's not AS Material" remember, AS Aired Pee Wee's playhouse and Saved by the Bell. AS doesn't HAVE any particular "Material".But I'm not trying to say it's definitely gonna be One Piece, I actually believe the exact opposite, that the chances it'll be OP are so incredibly slim, best not anyone get your hopes up.
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We all know 4Kids changed Luffy's blood to sweat in the final fight with Croc.
This has always sturck me as absolutely ludicrous. I mean, if Croc can absorb water using his ability, doesn't this include sweat?
Then again, this is 4Kids, they'll pull out any excuse to shelter kids from the reality of blood.