carter's right. though sasuke made up the ending of the lion combo by himself, he just copied the first part of the move from lee's lotus thanks to his sharingan.
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@Cap'n:
I thought I remembered a line about Sasuke using Lee's taijutsu, but I don't know.
I'm pretty sure, though it was originally stated that Taijutsu was Sharingan's weakness, that Kakashi watched Lee fight with Sharingan activated, memorized the style of movement and the way he attacks and then taught it to Sasuke. Sasuke also had already copied some of his Tajutsu when they fought, hence the lion attack thing.
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http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume8.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8371
well this seems to answer it.
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and this one, it's just stated he used Lee's taijutsu
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter117.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8430
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Basically from what I remember he used the Sharingan to imaging Lee's taijutsu and running speed and imitate it.
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THing is, when Lee used his full ability, Sasuke was unconcious(sp?). He never saw the lee and garaa fight.
Also, sharingan cant improve physical ability. Thats why sasuke got his ass kicked despite having sharingan against lee.
So I still dont understand how he copied Lee's style, but w/e, he uses a sword now.
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I still dont understand how he copied Lee's style, but w/e, he uses a sword now.
Sasuke had no problem copying Lee's movements, its just that Lee was too fast for Sasuke to copy and/or counter his moves. During his training with Kakashi Sasuke greatly increased his speed so he is able to copy them. He always understood what his moves where he just couldn't keep up with it.
If you mean how did he copy Lee's moves if he wasn't there though during the Preliminarys though, Kakashi probably just copied them so Sasuke could copy them during the training.
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The sharingan can copy taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu.
What lee told Sasuke was that, " you can see it but it is 2 fast for you". Lee had the speed, at first.
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Spoiler with Sasuke and Orochimaru has been confirmed. I was hoping that one was real. I'm talking about the one where Sasuke defeated a huge number of people ( I'm trying to be subtle). Anyway, I can't wait for the chapter to come out. Goodnight.
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So, wow. Sasuke is about to try to kill Oro? I predicted that a long time ago that he was going to turn on Oro when got strong enough. I knew he wasnt just going to give up his body like that.
I wonder if they are actually going to fight.
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Whoa, I'm pretty surprised about that one.
But really, what happened to the "As long as Itachi gets killed Orochimaru can have my body" thing? Is he really that confident now or was he just bullshitting back then?
Anyway, I have faith that Kishi knows where he's going with this. I hope.
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Well, Some people like me always thought Sasuke didnt really believe what he was saying.
I always felt he was going to use Oro and then betray him when the time comes, but I think Oro knew this too. His has a play, im sure. Maybe, the curse seal will subdue Sasuke.
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I will shove my stick up your cracker jack ass.
::rolls eyes::
Anyways so Sasuke wants to kill Orochimaru huh? Who didn't see this coming from way back at the end of the Naruto vs Sasuke fight?
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I didn't.
I hate Sasuke, but at least it gives a little bit of worth to his character. Better than staying submissive to that old whore Orochimaru.
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so no akatsuki then? i wonder how much sasuke's got stronger..but i think it's too early to think he can easily rebel against orochimaru(despite his illness) and kabuto..
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Oro's probably going to end up raping Sasuke again.
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I like how the story is going for two reasons. First, I never wanted Sasuke to be evil. He makes a better good guy even though he's a pompous ass. What I mean is, we'll enjoy the fights better if he fights villains than if he fights the good guys ( well except a Naruto vs Sasuke fight - that will rock). Second, we get a big revelation. If Sandaime Hokage cursed Orochimaru's arms, why was he okay since it was the arms of his soul that was cut off? Now we know that what the Third did was not wasted.
I like the direction Kishimoto is taking. I always felt that Naruto and Sasuke might take their overdue chunnin exam together. But we'll see. Kishimoto, don't disappoint me! I'm prety sure we'll get that Naruto vs Sasuke fight, whether it's good vs bad or whatever.
One more thing, Sasuke betraying Orochimaru does not necessarily mean Sasuke is 'good.' He might just believe that Oro can't teach him anything or he has surpassed Oro. I can't predict, so I'll just read on. -
So, then who's gonna teach Sasuke if he kills Oro, then? Hidan's head?
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It looks like Sarutobi's "curse" is back on Oro's arms too. Maybe even after changing bodies, after a few years the arms become affected again.
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@Impel:
So, then who's gonna teach Sasuke if he kills Oro, then? Hidan's head?
Use YOUR head. Oro will not teach Sasuke forever like you seem to imply. And from the spoiler, Sasuke implies that he has learned all he can from Orochimaru. The thing is we need more chapters to find out how the story develops.
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I didn't.
I hate Sasuke, but at least it gives a little bit of worth to his character. Better than staying submissive to that old whore Orochimaru.
agreed
this may just be the start of the characters redemption in my eyes.
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that iss the real one? thats awesome. maybe sasuke can suceed where naruto failed in kiling him
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If Sasuke betrays Oro, I hope he ditches that gay-ass sound-nin outfit too.
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If Sasuke betrays Oro, I hope he ditches that gay-ass sound-nin outfit too.
We can only hope. I like his kusanagi sword, but the pirate suit's gotta go.
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I have never enjoyed that Sound Four outfit everyone wears. Kabuto has the most fasion sense in all of the sound village.
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well there are 2 ways this could work out
1. Sasuke wins
2. I smell a Captain Ginyu esque thing happening.then of course whoever is going after him will show up right once their battle is finished
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The sharingan can copy taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu.
What lee told Sasuke was that, " you can see it but it is 2 fast for you". Lee had the speed, at first.
Thing is, sasuke never saw lee's true speed. He was unconscious when it happened.(I thought I put that in, but it didnt show up.)
All sasuke saw was the follow-up for Omote Renge. I think its a little hard to believe he copied a whole style just from one move, which was done while the user was restrained.
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he saw the beginning of Primary Lotus when it was USED ON HIM….can't we just end this argument?
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You know, I think it's odd that fan art and stuff keeps associating Sasuke with lightning when it's been made clear that he's fire.
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No, he's lightning too.
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You can only be one element. And he's fire. He can use jutsus of other elements, but his affinity is fire.
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Yeah Chidori would be the obvious pointer.
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he saw the beginning of Primary Lotus when it was USED ON HIM….can't we just end this argument?
But not lee's speed and other techniques, did you even read half of my post?
I dont think he could assimilate his whole style from an incomplete part of one move.
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Okay, look at how many fire jutsus he uses. Now look at how many lightning jutsus he uses. Weight them out, you french puppet.
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Nothing good is ever free.
I highly doubt the cursed seal grants Sasuke power, and Orochimaru gets nothing in return.
I believe several things, first off, I believe the cursed seal derives it's power from Orochimaru, as in he provides the chakra for the person to transform through some sort of contract. Why? I just watched the Naruto episode where Kimimaro fought Gaara, and Kimimaro said that with the earth seal, he will become a part of Orochimaru. Vague speculation, but that's what I believe the case to be.
Hence that, I believe he has the ability to control the cursed seal, hence the name cursed seal. It's a contract with the devil to gain power, in this case, Orochimaru being the devil. As stated by the Sound 4, you lose all freedom in order to gain the power. I believe the seal works sort of the same way as the Hyuuga clan's method of keeping the branch family seperate from the head family, where they can destroy the cells of the branch family basically on command.
It would be extremely surprising for Orochimaru to be killed here, as it throws off a lot of speculation that Orochimaru would probably be the final fight. This would leave the remaining Akatsuki as the final boss in Naruto. I think it would be completely awesome if Sasuke were to return to the leaf village. Sasuke was my favorite character until he went retarded.
In terms of power, it would make plent of sense for Sasuke to be able to defeat Orochimaru right here. I don't know exactly how strong Kakazu was, but if Naruto was able to defeat him, then it's plausible to think that Sasuke can also defeat S-rank shinobi such as Orochimaru right now. But like I said, I doubt the cursed seal is only there to grant Sasuke power. It might become a situation where if Orochimaru dies, Sasuke dies too. The manga could spin off into several massive directions now.
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His main attack is LIGHTING, hence why he is often associated with LIGHTNING.
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Yeah Chidori would be the obvious pointer.
His primary techniques are fire. His clan is fire, the first move the learn is fire, the fan on their back deals with fire. He's primarily fire.
edit: I don't get how you say lightning is his primary attribute. We have seen that the first techniques he learned are fire, his clan freaking represents fire. Their signature move is a great fire ball.
"CHIDORI!!!!!" - Uh. Okay. We've seen two ligtning attacks that he has used, both of which revolve around one technique. Just because it's his strongest ninjutsu doesn't make him lightning.
edit2: and even then, we don't know that it's his strongest jutsu.
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Hes both.
Yamato is both water and earth, and Kakashi seems to be proficient at all of them, so its likely sasuke is both.
Even if he isnt, he still can use both to quite a high level. The chakra nature shows which element is easiest for you, but you can still learn all of them.
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From what I gather, the arguement is more of what his primary attribute is. I'd hope everyone can understand that he can use both.
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My post is adding to Le Lavliett not repling to spambots wannabe. I never stated anything about his primary element.
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@Impel:
You know, I think it's odd that fan art and stuff keeps associating Sasuke with lightning when it's been made clear that he's fire.
Yeah it's really odd, especially when the latest color spread by Kishimoto, you know, the author of the manga, labelled him the god of lightning.
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My bad, it came after Impel Down's post, so I figured for it to be a sarcastic response.
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Yeah It's a wonder. Like this panel right here:
http://groups.msn.com/narutomangareturns/volume35.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=25803
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@Le:
Yeah It's a wonder. Like this panel right here:
http://groups.msn.com/narutomangareturns/volume35.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=25803
Seems I misread your post, or rather was misguided by Impel Down's post. It's definately quite clear that he's both fire AND lightning. Assuming that their is such a thing as primary attribute, I'd say it's safe to assume that would be fire.
Btw, what chapter was the latest color spread?
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Here's the Sasuke half of the page:
http://groups.msn.com/narutomangareturns/chapter341hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26343
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Nice, that's a fairly sick spread. Anyways, there seems to be some thorough bashing of Sasuke's outfit, I actually found it cool. Am I the lone rider? :(
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Thats probobly my favorite manga spread of all time(Had it in my sig, and have the hi-quality version as my PSP wallpaper.)
I like sasuke's samurai like outfit too.
Sasuke, like I said, is both fire and lighting. Kakashi confirmed it after naruto stated it. Hes associated with Raijin due to the battles raijin and fuujin fought in japanese mythology. It doesnt mean his attribute is lightning, its just aliking naruto and sasuke's fight to raijin and fuujin's.
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Out of all the Shippuden outfits, I love Shino's druggie outfit the best.
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The AL real identity uncovered by the great minds of Narutofan;
He will be a ninja from the future who is talking to the Akatsuki member through time-and-space jutsu. Not only that, but he will be Kurenai's and Asuma's child. By telling us that Kurenai is pregnant, every person who can count 1+1 = 2 is now able to predict that the AL is her child. She willl eventually be held captive by the Akatsuki organization so she can't (if theres a 0,0001% possibility) do anything to her baby.
This is actually a serious theory that spawned half a dozen page of "interesting!", "great theory" "I love it". Haha Narutofan.