Call me crazy but I just thought of this.
The three admirals may serve as a goal to surpass for the monster trio (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji)
Kizaru seems to have powerful kicking abilities so he's most likely a goal for Sanji to surpass and beat.
Aokiji is a logia which makes him Zoro's goal to be able to cut through a logia user.
And the final admiral might be Luffy's goal once we learn more about him.
I really wish some of you would figure out this manga already. Especially with the recent chapter.
Luffy "I don't want to Conquer anything. I just think the guy with the most freedom in this whole ocean IS THE PIRATE KING"
And when Moria goes "Strawhat how dare you have the gall to wreak such reckless havoc across my thriller bark" Luffy responds with "You're the one who got in our way in the first place"
Luffy is not out to beat people up. If they bother him or get in his way he will fight them. But there will be no goal. Sanji has never ever once shown any drive to out fight someone or be stronger than someone. Only exception is little sibling rivalry thing going on with Zoro. Zoro is only goal of strongest swordsman. No admiral will ever change that unless the admiral beats Mihawk before Zoro in a sword fight. Thus making the admiral the new strongest.
This is not DBZ where Goku wants to be the strongest in world/universe. Or Naruto where he wants to be the strongest in the village and become hokage.
Don't know why I responded. Was bored I guess, cause this topic should just be locked.
I really wish some of you would figure out this manga already. Especially with the recent chapter.
Luffy "I don't want to Conquer anything. I just think the guy with the most freedom in this whole ocean IS THE PIRATE KING"
And when Moria goes "Strawhat how dare you have the gall to wreak such reckless havoc across my thriller bark" Luffy responds with "You're the one who got in our way in the first place"
Luffy is not out to beat people up. If they bother him or get in his way he will fight them. But there will be no goal. Sanji has never ever once shown any drive to out fight someone or be stronger than someone. Only exception is little sibling rivalry thing going on with Zoro. Zoro is only goal of strongest swordsman. No admiral will ever change that unless the admiral beats Mihawk before Zoro in a sword fight. Thus making the admiral the new strongest.
This is not DBZ where Goku wants to be the strongest in world/universe. Or Naruto where he wants to be the strongest in the village and become hokage.
Don't know why I responded. Was bored I guess, cause this topic should just be locked.
Oh please, don't try to justify Luffy's cliche goal.
"I WANT TO BE KING OF THE PIRATES!"
Luffy's goal is just like the rest, he wants to be the best period.
Zoro is only goal of strongest swordsman. No admiral will ever change that unless the admiral beats Mihawk before Zoro in a sword fight. Thus making the admiral the new strongest.
I think it’s nice if Zoro beat a Admiral with Logia or another guy with Logia, to prove he can cut logia user. I don’t believe one Admiral can beat Mihawk, he is more than the best swordsman. He is the invincible swordsman, where in my opinion other fighters included. So Zoro can beat one logia user, before he fights Mihawk. It would be a good warm up for Zoro. Further Zoro’s goal is to become an invincible swordsman.
If there would have been even the slightest clue for that elemental stuff to be true we would be seeing it in signatures and versus threads everywhere already.
OK, then lets start in my signature. 
Mihawk the “Hawk Eyes” and the invincible swordsman can cut elements.
I think it’s nice if Zoro beat a Admiral with Logia or another guy with Logia, to prove he can cut logia user. I don’t believe one Admiral can beat Mihawk, he is more than the best swordsman. He is the invincible swordsman, where in my opinion other fighters included. So Zoro can beat one logia user, before he fights Mihawk. It would be a good warm up for Zoro. Further Zoro’s goal is to become an invincible swordsman.
Whether or not Zoro beats a Logia has nothing to do with this. The guys is saying that the 3 top teir guys will make it their goal to beat an admiral for some reason.
@Miracles:
Oh please, don't try to justify Luffy's cliche goal.
"I WANT TO BE KING OF THE PIRATES!"
Luffy's goal is just like the rest, he wants to be the best period.
Ok so then why has Luffy ran away from marines before, and why does he constantly run from Smoker. If he never beats smoker and can't doesn't that mean he isn't the strongest period.
He states when fighting Blueno that he realized he needed to be stronger after fighting Aokiji, not to beat Aokiji but to be able to protect his friends in the future. He is never trying to want to rematch Aokiji, which i doubt they will ever fight again.
Luffy just realized he needs to be stronger to be able to stay alive and keep hisd friends alive. He ain't becoming stronger to "be stronger" It just so happens to be a sort of a side effect that he ends up being stronger than most people or all in the end. He just wants to have fun sailing aroudn and having adventures. And if you believe otherwise you are retarded. His goal is not be the strongest.
And thats all, no more responding to you miracles from me. All you ever want is some retarded fight and I"M not giving it to you.
@Salamander:
Call me crazy but I just thought of this.
The three admirals may serve as a goal to surpass for the monster trio (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji)
Kizaru seems to have powerful kicking abilities so he's most likely a goal for Sanji to surpass and beat.
Aokiji is a logia which makes him Zoro's goal to be able to cut through a logia user.
And the final admiral might be Luffy's goal once we learn more about him.
Nahh aokiji is most likely the match up for luffy 
and no i don`t think sanji will ever defeat an admiral (when all 3 of them have a logia-DF…...no chance)
Whether or not Zoro beats a Logia has nothing to do with this. The guys is saying that the 3 top teir guys will make it their goal to beat an admiral for some reason.
You’re right. This point I must have skipped.
Further I don’t believe that Sanji can beat an Admiral, even in the future.
If there would have been even the slightest clue for that elemental stuff to be true we would be seeing it in signatures and versus threads everywhere already.
OK, then lets start in my signature. 
Mihawk the “Hawk Eyes” and the invincible swordsman can cut elements.
Ok so then why has Luffy ran away from marines before, and why does he constantly run from Smoker. If he never beats smoker and can't doesn't that mean he isn't the strongest period.
He states when fighting Blueno that he realized he needed to be stronger after fighting Aokiji, not to beat Aokiji but to be able to protect his friends in the future. He is never trying to want to rematch Aokiji, which i doubt they will ever fight again.
Luffy just realized he needs to be stronger to be able to stay alive and keep hisd friends alive. He ain't becoming stronger to "be stronger" It just so happens to be a sort of a side effect that he ends up being stronger than most people or all in the end. He just wants to have fun sailing aroudn and having adventures. And if you believe otherwise you are retarded. His goal is not be the strongest.
And thats all, no more responding to you miracles from me. All you ever want is some retarded fight and I"M not giving it to you.
"I WANT TO BE STRONGER SO I CAN PROTECT MY FIRENDS" "IS CLICHE PURE SHONEN JUMP!
LUFFY'S GOAL IS DA KING OF DA PIRATES, if you can't comprehend something so intricate your just lying to yourself.
@Don:
Nahh aokiji is most likely the match up for luffy
Do you say that with any basis whatsoever other than that they fought once before?
and no i don`t think sanji will ever defeat an admiral (when all 3 of them have a logia-DF…...no chance)
what.
the only one we know has a logia power is Aokiji. Hell, we don't even know if Kizaru has one (remember Don Krieg said he had one in attempt to explain his power, when he's really just strong, this could be the same thing. Not saying it is, just that we don't really know yet).
And what does that have to do with it anyway? You don't know how strong Sanji or anyone else is going to become.
"I WANT TO BE STRONGER SO I CAN PROTECT MY FIRENDS" "IS CLICHE PURE SHONEN JUMP!
LUFFY'S GOAL IS DA KING OF DA PIRATES, if you can't comprehend something so intricate your just lying to yourself.
Players in the NBA are trying to win a NBA championship, not trying to be the best player in the NBA.
Is Ichigo deliberately going out of his way to fight the super strong hollows (whatever the name is). No he didn't start training more until he caught a glimpse of the Arrancar, and realized he needed to be stronger.
NOT ALL shounen manga or even goals of stuff requires a person to want to achieve to be the strongest. While some the whole basis is pretty much they want to be the strongest, and go out of there way to find opponents. In the end sure Ichigo and Luffy will be the strongest, or similarily strong people (Aokiji) will not be an enemy to them that it don't matter.
Damnit I said wasn't gonna respond to you but whatever, have like 30 minutes left of download for latest episode and nothign really to do.
Do you say that with any basis whatsoever other than that they fought once before?
I'm bored so heres a few possible reasons:
1. To date Luffy has fought all the Logia users.
2. Luffy challanged him mano a mano and for some reason that deal makes Aokiji unable attack Luffys crew untill Luffy is dead or whatever.
(3. Aokiji isn't a swordsman. Akainu could be a better match in that aspect)
4. Zoro has no reason (at this moment) to fight Aokiji whatsoever. (on the other hand neither does Luffy)
5. "cutting elements" is a rumor and we don't know if it has any substance in the world of OP. There might not be any way for a swordsman to harm a logia with just a regular sword.
Players in the NBA are trying to win a NBA championship, not trying to be the best player in the NBA.
Ain't the same thing.
Is Ichigo deliberately going out of his way to fight the super strong hollows (whatever the name is). No he didn't start training more until he caught a glimpse of the Arrancar, and realized he needed to be stronger.
Ichigo fights for his friends just like Luffy…DON!
NOT ALL shounen manga or even goals of stuff requires a person to want to achieve to be the strongest. While some the whole basis is pretty much they want to be the strongest, and go out of there way to find opponents. In the end sure Ichigo and Luffy will be the strongest, or similarily strong people (Aokiji) will not be an enemy to them that it don't matter.
Damnit I said wasn't gonna respond to you but whatever, have like 30 minutes left of download for latest episode and nothign really to do.
Dude, Luffy's goal is cliche to be the best pirate period. He will be at the top of the main theme of one piece…PIRATES.
Lol miracles and hinscher can't you get along. My points though
1. Aokiji will never fight any strawhat again for one reason: No strawhat will ever have any need. Aokiji is only ever going to be Robin's rival and now they aren't rivals. So to me Aokiji will never fight a strawhat.
2. Kizaru will obviously die in this arc for lots of reasons I don't have the time to type but Luffy wont kill him so a Strawhat wont ever imo fight a admiral.
3. We don't no anything bout admiral 3 and what his powers are so I'm not gonna go there.
Overall good question but idk
I dont think the monster trio's goal is to beat an admiral on their own but because luffy wants to become pirate king, it means they're gonna get the governments attention hardcore. If you guys believe that coby will become an admiral right before luffy gets near the last island then one of the admirals will die or resign, or possibly be defeated then booted from their rank.
If coby becomes an admiral it'll be because Ao kiji resigns as admiral, or some other admiral is defeated in battle most likely the last admiral to be shown akuaine (or however you spell it.) since the fire logia is already taken so this guy is either a extremely powerful non df user, or has a paracemica. Then coby will face luffy because of some event that the straw hats caused by going against the world government or even defeating one of the yonkou.
Either way i dont see Ao kiji fighting the straw hats unless sengoku forces him to, and in that event luffy's gear 2 should generate enough heat to harm him or we have sanji's diablo jamble which would melt the ice.
I'm bored so heres a few possible reasons:
1. To date Luffy has fought all the Logia users.
2. Luffy challanged him mano a mano and for some reason that deal makes Aokiji unable attack Luffys crew untill Luffy is dead or whatever.
(3. Aokiji isn't a swordsman. Akainu could be a better match in that aspect)
4. Zoro has no reason (at this moment) to fight Aokiji whatsoever. (on the other hand neither does Luffy)
5. "cutting elements" is a rumor and we don't know if it has any substance in the world of OP. There might not be any way for a swordsman to harm a logia with just a regular sword.
1. Really doesn't mean anything. Luffy always fight the strongest guy, and logias tend to be the strongest guys around. Doesn't mean there will never be a logia fight for someone else.
2. That was for that fight. I don't imagine that stand for eternity.
3, 4 & 5. I don't necessarily think Zoro will fight him either. I'm just pointing out that that guy's idea that only Luffy will ever fight Aokiji is baseless. Someone else might, could be someone outside the Straw Hats, maybe no one will. Crazy things happen and there's no telling. The Straw Hats aren't going to have direct confrontation with every single person who is a potential obstacle (all three admirals, all six remaining shichibukai, all four yonkou, the other supernovas, etc.)
As shitty as a theory this is, if anything, since Aokiji is the strongest admiral, he would be the one fighting Luffy.
Oh, and Luffy already said that he was planning on kicking his ass later on.
1. Really doesn't mean anything. Luffy always fight the strongest guy, and logias tend to be the strongest guys around. Doesn't mean there will never be a logia fight for someone else.
2. That was for that fight. I don't imagine that stand for eternity.
3, 4 & 5. I don't necessarily think Zoro will fight him either. I'm just pointing out that that guy's idea that only Luffy will ever fight Aokiji is baseless. Someone else might, could be someone outside the Straw Hats, maybe no one will. Crazy things happen and there's no telling. The Straw Hats aren't going to have direct confrontation with every single person who is a potential obstacle (all three admirals, all six remaining shichibukai, all four yonkou, the other supernovas, etc.)
1. Just who do you expect to trump Aokiji and still be in the same round of fights?
2. Why didn't he go after the strawhats then? he won didn't he?
Are we arguing that we don't have definite proof that he will only fight Luffy or are we discussing reasons why it is more likely he will fight Luffy instead of Zoro?
7. Luffy already took the fight from Zoro and Sanji once. It would be very disrespectful to Aokiji if he is expecting a rematch with Luffy and gets the first mate instead. =(
8. A marine Admiral is equal to that of a captain on a pirate ship (as in they are the highest rank. Thus it is Luffys responsibility to deal with the admirals.
(And don't got technical on me and say that Sengoku outranks the admirals.)
Right now, I don't see Aokiji fighting anyone of the Straw Hats as there is no reason, plus none of the Straw Hats have any reason to fight him. And I never heard of Luffy promising to beat him later, just that when he fought him, he decided that he had to become stronger. As we know, Aokiji is apart of the Marines, but he is a moral person. To tell the truth, he's helped the SH a LOT. Without him, Luffy wouldn't have been strong enough to beat Lucci and would have lost Robin. Now to mention Aokiji sparring all of Franky Family and Robin. At this moment, Robin would have nothing against him.
Zoro also would have no direct interest in fighting the Admirals as he is not interested in them, just Mihawk and strong swordsmen. Same goes for Sanji. His goal has nothing to do with fighting. Kizaru just showed up, and we barely know the beginning of his powers. Now, Smoker is bound to meet Luffy again as his goal is to capture him so we'll see how that goes.
All that to say, the Admirals are NOT goals of the SH. If they started to fight, it would not be because of them wanting to fight the Admirals. It would be because the Admirals are called by the Marines to do their duty.
As for Luffy wanting to be the best Miracles, from the last chapter his goal is not the be the strongest or the best pirate, but to have a great adventure and have the freedom to do so. So although the title of "Pirate King" may sound a bit cliche, his explanation isn't really to be the strongest or best pirate. Just to go on a exciting and thrilling adventure.
Ain't the same thing.
Ichigo fights for his friends just like Luffy…DON!
Dude, Luffy's goal is cliche to be the best pirate period. He will be at the top of the main theme of one piece...PIRATES.
You obviously don't pay attention. As the last chapter clearly stated. Luffy just wants freedom, adventure, and to fulfill his promise. Being the best Pirate just happens to come along the way. If he really wanted to be Pirate King right away and be ahead of everyone he would of let the old man tell him if One Piece was really there and what it was. But he didn't, why? He wants adventure.
Comparing One Piece to to other big Shonen gets you no were. Dragon Ball, Bleach, and naruto are very alike sure. But One Piece has only basic shonen elements in common. Like undying will and a very hungry main character.
It's the biggest reason why One Piece is not popular with most people who like big shonen. Also the same reason why a wholed lot of One Piece heads think Naruto and Bleach are retarted.
As for Luffy wanting to be the best Miracles, from the last chapter his goal is not the be the strongest or the best pirate, but to have a great adventure and have the freedom to do so. So although the title of "Pirate King" may sound a bit cliche, his explanation isn't really to be the strongest or best pirate. Just to go on a exciting and thrilling adventure.
No, that's only PART of the voyage.
You obviously don't pay attention. As the last chapter clearly stated. Luffy just wants freedom, adventure, and to fulfill his promise. Being the best Pirate just happens to come along the way. If he really wanted to be Pirate King right away and be ahead of everyone he would of let the old man tell him if One Piece was really there and what it was. But he didn't, why? He wants adventure.
Comparing One Piece to to other big Shonen gets you no were. Dragon Ball, Bleach, and naruto are very alike sure. But One Piece has only basic shonen elements in common. Like undying will and a very hungry main character.
It's the biggest reason why One Piece is not popular with most people who like big shonen. Also the same reason why a wholed lot of One Piece heads think Naruto and Bleach are retarted.
Someone threw up there One Piece defensive shields..
All that being free and adventure is PART of Luffy's voyage to becoming the KING OF DA PIRATES! His ultimate goal (The main reason why the story one piece exist) is for Luffy to find the treasure and become King. God, are you paying attention? I hope you don't think One Piece is this entity that stands alone because it doesn't. Luffy has a goal just like the rest of the Shonen hitters and it relates to being the BEST, period.
Being the King and being the best aren't really the same thing though. When Usopp asked for the location of One Piece Luffy immeadiately yelled that he doesn't want to know that at all. He would even quite being a pirate if Raleigh said something. If he truly wanted to be the best, then that wouldn't stop him. However his goal is the journey and to become the King. So really, it's that he will become stronger just getting to that title, but he isn't doing it for the title of the strongest, but for being the Pirate King and going on the voyage. So that's his aim.
That's all. I wasn't saying that it's a stand alone thing. Just clearing it up from what I read.
Yugioh is the KING OF GAMES…
I am the King of dodgeball..
I am the KING of the Pirates....
I am the best....
@Salamander:
Call me crazy but I just thought of this.
The three admirals may serve as a goal to surpass for the monster trio (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji)
Kizaru seems to have powerful kicking abilities so he's most likely a goal for Sanji to surpass and beat.
Aokiji is a logia which makes him Zoro's goal to be able to cut through a logia user.
And the final admiral might be Luffy's goal once we learn more about him.
I don't think it works like that.
The Admirals serve more as power checks for the SH or just Luffy. They lost to AoKiji
Might injure Kizaru either impressing or embarassing him because he didn't think some rookies could do anything to him, and then out right defeat Akainu either Luffy solo or as a group.
As shitty as a theory this is, if anything, since Aokiji is the strongest admiral, he would be the one fighting Luffy.
Oh, and Luffy already said that he was planning on kicking his ass later on.
Was it ever stated that Aokiji was really the strongest admiral? I do remember something about him being the best fighter in the marines, but I'm not sure.
Yugioh is the KING OF GAMES…
I am the King of dodgeball..
I am the KING of the Pirates....
I am the best....
I was just saying what Luffy just recently said. Anyway, I don't see the Admirals as goals. There's no reason to it. The SH aren't out to destroy the world gov. That's Dragon's job.
Mr. Lucci, from what I remember it was that "he's the strongest fighter in the Marines."
Do you say that with any basis whatsoever other than that they fought once before?
what.
the only one we know has a logia power is Aokiji. Hell, we don't even know if Kizaru has one (remember Don Krieg said he had one in attempt to explain his power, when he's really just strong, this could be the same thing. Not saying it is, just that we don't really know yet).And what does that have to do with it anyway? You don't know how strong Sanji or anyone else is going to become.
I base it with my OP-knowledge and when some1 like aokiji is introduced that strong he will be defeated by luffy and no1 else…
than thx to gorlom to saying the obvious reasons!
also i said it in brackets that all admirals could have a logia and THAN sanji wont have any chance:getlost: and i dont rly can see in any future 3!!!! SH which are all able to defeat an admiral or to say it clear...1 of the strongest forces in the whole OP-world....never ever will sanji reach this status...sure he gets damn stronger but cmon an admiral...even luffy couldnt take 1 out so far:getlost:
but whatever sanji-fanboys or girls will always believe he will fight in the end with a yonkou right??
You’re right. This point I must have skipped.
Further I don’t believe that Sanji can beat an Admiral, even in the future.
-.- so Oda will let Sanji sit down as back up with the rest and just gives him some fodder opponents.
So we have to say that Oda has to create only 2 powerful opponents every arc not 3 like in every damn arc for now. (Expect Skypia)
EDIT
@Don:
I base it with my OP-knowledge and when some1 like aokiji is introduced that strong he will be defeated by luffy and no1 else…
than thx to gorlom to saying the obvious reasons!
also i said it in brackets that all admirals could have a logia and THAN sanji wont have any chance:getlost: and i dont rly can see in any future 3!!!! SH which are all able to defeat an admiral or to say it clear...1 of the strongest forces in the whole OP-world....never ever will sanji reach this status...sure he gets damn stronger but cmon an admiral...even luffy couldnt take 1 out so far:getlost:
but whatever sanji-fanboys or girls will always believe he will fight in the end with a yonkou right??
Same for Luffy and Zoro for now. And you dunno what will happen
Miracles doesn't have any arguments at all. Trolling around like that isn't really smart. Maybe that you like acting like that? …
Hinsher base his arguments on what Luffy said and did.
Anyway i think that Blackbeard can easily eliminate Aokiji and kizaru. He is the strongest now in the OP World when we talk about DF vs DF. I don't know how the SH can win if BB attacks them. Zoro and Sanji will be the hope. BB is such a badass 
While i'm sure that i've seen Sanji declare a desire to grow stronger. I don't think it even matters, the fact of the matter is, is that Zeff's strength was renowned across all five seas and yet he never showed a desire for strength over his true goal which was All Blue.
-.- so Oda will let Sanji sit down as back up with the rest and just gives him some fodder opponents.
So we have to say that Oda has to create only 2 powerful opponents every arc not 3 like in every damn arc for now. (Expect Skypia)
EDIT
Same for Luffy and Zoro for now. And you dunno what will happen
but luffy is the main chara..he will sure surpass them..he has to when this series should have a good ending
and zoro …i just said that sanji cant take out an admiral...i dont rly think zoro will fight 1 of them as far as this admiral is no great swordsmen ...but zoro will sure get a stronger force than sanji to surpass cause his goal affort this to go against the strongest in the OP-world but that i leave to oda if zoro will get another shichibukai(besides mihawk) or an admiral as an opponent....but mybet is that zoro will fight an other shichibukai and the admirals are that strong that luffy will have his plessure with them
Well and Sanji hinted that he will be the most troublesome for the marines.
Well and Sanji hinted that he will be the most troublesome for the marines.
like usopp ehh
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@Don:
like usopp ehh
I have to say good counter but I think you are ignoring facts, that Sanji is potrayed since the gebinning of the series as one of the tp 3 fighters, so he have to be able to ebat someone of this caliber in near future…. Or do you think that, for example, Shanks crew has no one near the strenght of an admiral and Shanks is the only capable of defeating them?
I can't see Oda letting Sanji going down and let him say. Yeah I'm weaker than Zoro and canÄt do anything so I sit down and watch the fight.
@Don:
like usopp ehh
Usopp will be feared by association, where as Sanji offered his life along with his words, it's a huge difference.
To be honest, I have no idea why people like to play Sanji down as a fighter/strong person. It's like everyone got bullied in school by the kid that said he was gonna grow up and be a pro-wrestler.
To be honest, I have no idea why people like to play Sanji down as a fighter/strong person.
Mostly because the characters (mostly nami) groups him with Luffy and Zoro calling them the monster trio…
I have to say good counter but I think you are ignoring facts, that Sanji is potrayed since the gebinning of the series as one of the tp 3 fighters, so he have to be able to ebat someone of this caliber in near future…. Or do you think that, for example, Shanks crew has no one near the strenght of an admiral and Shanks is the only capable of defeating them?
What? Sanji wasn't THERE at the beggining of the series. And think about it, do you remember when Robin first joined the crew? at that point, she could've beaten Sanji and Zoro together.
The only reason they are called the monster trio is because their personality allows them to stand together in a row, cross their arms and look like complete idio- I mean, look cool. If Robin did , in fact even if Franky did that, it wouldn't go along with thier personalities.
"The Monster Trio" Refers more to thier personality then their strength in battle.
What? Sanji wasn't THERE at the beggining of the series. And think about it, do you remember when Robin first joined the crew? at that point, she could've beaten Sanji and Zoro together.
The only reason they are called the monster trio is because their personality allows them to stand together in a row, cross their arms and look like complete idio- I mean, look cool. If Robin did , in fact even if Franky did that, it wouldn't go along with thier personalities.
"The Monster Trio" Refers more to thier personality then their strength in battle.
You're clearly an idiot who chooses to ignore 500 chapters of development in order to try and troll to get through your afternoons.
Sanji was introduced 43 chapters in, a mere 40 after Zoro (which leaves over 450 chapters for you to get to grips with Oda's writing style) and was dubbed as one of the monster trio around chapter 81 at which point Nami clearly stated her reasons being that none of the three ever get sick and all have super human strength and endurance. Sanji never even got to show off his full strength along with his introduction because he was allowing himself to be hit and when he could finally hit back, his body couldn't take the force of his blows.
To compare him to the likes of Franky and Robin who were introduced as foes is insanity. Robin's greatest feat was blowing up Igarams ship and she's been largely useless since. While Franky managed to do what? Oh that's right, he failed to force Luffy past Gear 1 and ran out of cola before the shipwrights arrived. Get a grip.
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You're clearly an idiot who chooses to ignore 500 chapters of development in order to try and troll to get through your afternoons.
Sanji was introduced 43 chapters in, a mere 40 after Zoro (which leaves over 450 chapters for you to get to grips with Oda's writing style) and was dubbed as one of the monster trio around chapter 81 at which point Nami clearly stated her reasons being that none of the three ever get sick and all have super human strength and endurance. Sanji never even got to show off his full strength along with his introduction because he was allowing himself to be hit and when he could finally hit back, his body couldn't take the force of his blows.
To compare him to the likes of Franky and Robin who were introduced as foes is insanity. Robin's greatest feat was blowing up Igarams ship and she's been largely useless since. While Franky managed to do what? Oh that's right, he failed to force Luffy past Gear 1 and ran out of cola before the shipwrights arrived. Get a grip.
You know… I really like you. 
Let the idiots be idiots
You're clearly an idiot who chooses to ignore 500 chapters of development in order to try and troll to get through your afternoons.
You are clearly an idiot who chooses to randomly throw internet slang at people in order to look good while ignoring the fact that other people may have slightly different opinions then you
Sanji was introduced 43 chapters in, a mere 40 after Zoro (which leaves over 450 chapters for you to get to grips with Oda's writing style) and was dubbed as one of the monster trio around chapter 81…
Is this supposed to be a comeback to me saying Sanji wasn't there at the beggining, and that the monster trio formed later on? Funnily enough, I don't count 81 chapters in as the "beggining". The user I was responding to made it seem like "The monster trio" was something set in stone since he beggining of the series, in the same way as Luffy's admiration of Shanks was.
…at which point Nami clearly stated her reasons being that none of the three ever get sick and all have super human strength and endurance...
Yes, because she's known them for what? One month at this time? and so she knows everything about weather any of them have ever been sick or ill. Because she is a main character, she must be a trusted source of info, regardless of wether or not there is there is any basis for her statement what so ever. Not to mention strong people never get sick. which is exactly why Gol d. Roger never got sic- Oh, wait.
…Sanji never even got to show off his full strength along with his introduction because he was allowing himself to be hit and when he could finally hit back, his body couldn't take the force of his blows.
What do you mean his body couldn't take the force of his blows? Isn't this a bad thing? What happened to all this un-beatable super-human stanima he had a minute ago if he can't even take his own attacks? Oh yeah, because your above point is completely invalid, I forgot.
To compare him to the likes of Franky and Robin who were introduced as foes is insanity…
Not really, seeing as Zoro was introduced as a villian in the first place. "wut u talkin about no he weren't" Yes he was, as seen here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/2/23/ here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/3/ and here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/3/04/ "lol but lufy wantd him 2 join his crew but he didnt want franki at first in fact they had a fite" Yes, but thats because Frankies intro arc was the longest saga in One Piece, rather than one of the smallest arcs, ala Zoros. _They didn't have time to fight, "_yh but that still doesnt change teh fact that luffy wanted him to join his crew, but didn't want franki." You right, it doesn't, but thats for several reasons:
1) Luffy hadn't heard of/meet Franky properly until after the incident with Ussopi. Ussopi is his established nakama, of course he was angry. If Franky had just appeared out of no where, I'm sure Luffy would have loved the idea of someone as wacky as that being in his crew, similar to Brooks arrival.
2) It's still true that Zoro was introduced as a demonic beast, and Franky was not even as notorious as Zoro, but yet Luffy still instantly took a liking for Zoro. But thats because the authors style has changed. Don't tell me you're ignoring 500 chapters of development, now. We couldn't have that.
"stop puting words into mi mouth u bastard" I'm not, I'm predicting your possible responsesRobin's greatest feat was blowing up Igarams ship and she's been largely useless since.
You seemed to be ignoring her battle with Pell (Which she won easily) and the fact she almost killed Moria
While Franky managed to do what? Oh that's right, he failed to force Luffy past Gear 1
The fact that at the time of their battle Luffy hadn't achieved gear 2/3 instantly invalidates that sentence.
and ran out of cola before the shipwrights arrived.
…and defeated 2 members of CP9.
Get a grip.
I've got one, thank you
And yes, I realise I can't spell.
Fillerrrrrrrr….
The fight between SH Monster Trio and the 3 Admirals is very possible to happen. It is true that SH has no goal of fighting the WG, but WG is still there. Do you think Oda will not make SH fight the WG again? I feel SH will try to save Ace from Impel Down (ahmm, I've actually discussed this on another thread already). Impel Down has been mentioned many times in the manga already and I doubt if Oda will not make the SH go to Impel Down. And there is no other exciting story that can be brought up in Impel Down than saving Ace's life (What can be more exciting? The latest chapters revealed that Ace will be executed in Impel Down. So an Impel Down Arc will definitely deal with Ace). And if SH will fight WG again in this place, then it's possible that the SH monster trio will fight the 3 Admirals of the marines (though I'll not say who will fight who).
Trafalgar Law for Straw Hats!!
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what.
the only one we know has a logia power is Aokiji. Hell, we don't even know if Kizaru has one (remember Don Krieg said he had one in attempt to explain his power, when he's really just strong, this could be the same thing. Not saying it is, just that we don't really know yet).
When a guy shoots him in the back of the head and the bullet passes through him, it's a pretty safe bet that he's a logia. We may not know exactly what the full extent of its powers or even what type it is (though it's been speculated that it's light related, due to the "pika" sound he has been making), but we do know that he can "phase" like logias can.
The fight between SH Monster Trio and the 3 Admirals is very possible to happen. It is true that SH has no goal of fighting the WG, but WG is still there. Do you think Oda will not make SH fight the WG again? I feel SH will try to save Ace from Impel Down (ahmm, I've actually discussed this on another thread already). Impel Down has been mentioned many times in the manga already and I doubt if Oda will not make the SH go to Impel Down. And there is no other exciting story that can be brought up in Impel Down than saving Ace's life (What can be more exciting? The latest chapters revealed that Ace will be executed in Impel Down. So an Impel Down Arc will definitely deal with Ace). And if SH will fight WG again in this place, then it's possible that the SH monster trio will fight the 3 Admirals of the marines (though I'll not say who will fight who).
Your signature is pretty terrible.
@Fire Fist:
When a guy shoots him in the back of the head and the bullet passes through him, it's a pretty safe bet that he's a logia. We may not know exactly what the full extent of its powers or even what type it is (though it's been speculated that it's light related, due to the "pika" sound he has been making), but we do know that he can "phase" like logias can.
We don't know that it went through him. We know that to the guy who shot him, who is likely not ever seen people this strong, it seemed like it did. He could be really fast. CP9 probably could have dodged bullets. There's probably paramecia fruits that could be immune to being shot too.
You are clearly an idiot who chooses to randomly throw internet slang at people in order to look good while ignoring the fact that other people may have slightly different opinions then you
Different opinions? i'm all for them, saying that the monster trio is a title deemed on aesthetics makes you nothing short of a troll.
Is this supposed to be a comeback to me saying Sanji wasn't there at the beggining, and that the monster trio formed later on? Funnily enough, I don't count 81 chapters in as the "beggining". The user I was responding to made it seem like "The monster trio" was something set in stone since he beggining of the series, in the same way as Luffy's admiration of Shanks was.
When you consider the events that took place and the timeline since, i see nothing wrong with calling 81 chapters the beginning. You only need to look at Nami's integration into the crew. It was pre-grandline and the author was clearly trying to set things in motion for the following events.
Yes, because she's known them for what? One month at this time? and so she knows everything about weather any of them have ever been sick or ill. Because she is a main character, she must be a trusted source of info, regardless of wether or not there is there is any basis for her statement what so ever. Not to mention strong people never get sick. which is exactly why Gol d. Roger never got sic- Oh, wait.
or how about the fact that she asked all three if they ever got sick and they all said no?
Not really, seeing as Zoro was introduced as a villian in the first place. "wut u talkin about no he weren't" Yes he was, as seen here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/2/23/ here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/3/ and here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/3/04/ "lol but lufy wantd him 2 join his crew but he didnt want franki at first in fact they had a fite" Yes, but thats because Frankies intro arc was the longest saga in One Piece, rather than one of the smallest arcs, ala Zoros. They didn't have time to fight, "yh but that still doesnt change teh fact that luffy wanted him to join his crew, but didn't want franki." You right, it doesn't, but thats for several reasons:
- Luffy hadn't heard of/meet Franky properly until after the incident with Ussopi. Ussopi is his established nakama, of course he was angry. If Franky had just appeared out of no where, I'm sure Luffy would have loved the idea of someone as wacky as that being in his crew, similar to Brooks arrival.
- It's still true that Zoro was introduced as a demonic beast, and Franky was not even as notorious as Zoro, but yet Luffy still instantly took a liking for Zoro. But thats because the authors style has changed. Don't tell me you're ignoring 500 chapters of development, now. We couldn't have that.
"stop puting words into mi mouth u bastard" I'm not, I'm predicting your possible responses
Zoro wasn't introduced as a foe, he was introduced as a dangerous guy. There's a major difference. Upon Luffy hearing about Zoro, he instantly wanted a closer look because he was interested in recruiting him. Closer to two ;o)
You seemed to be ignoring her battle with Pell (Which she won easily) and the fact she almost killed Moria
No seriously, he greatest feat was based on her power that got taken away (the pollen spore bombs). Taking out Pell is childs play with her powers, especially when you're not expecting it (especially when you're that weak). And lol @ almost killed Moria. You should tell her that, it might force her to crack a smile. Also tell Moria while you're at it, he could do with dying of laughter. Just to clarify, she weren't strong enough to break him instantly and he had time to actually counter her. She failed.
The fact that at the time of their battle Luffy hadn't achieved gear 2/3 instantly invalidates that sentence.
Yes you're right, he hadn't come up with Gear 2 and yet a mere few hours later, had managed to conceive the idea and put it into practice using a line such as "my body still isn't used to this".
…and defeated 2 members of CP9.
lol :o\
I've got one, thank you
And yes, I realise I can't spell.
I have no interest in judging your spelling. Though, if you're going to post again, please quote properly or not at all.
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PS, i can't see Sanji beating Kizaru for the simple fact that Sanji didn't adopt any of the CP9 attacks. In that regards, Sanji has no interest in Kizaru.
Different opinions? i'm all for them, saying that the monster trio is a title deemed on aesthetics makes you nothing short of a troll.
Thanks for proveing my point about you randomly flinging internet slang at people in order to look cool.
When you consider the events that took place and the timeline since, i see nothing wrong with calling 81 chapters the beginning. You only need to look at Nami's integration into the crew. It was pre-grandline and the author was clearly trying to set things in motion for the following events.
You may see nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't change the fact that chapter 81 is not the beggining. If you meant the beggining of the grandline, then you should have made yourself clearer
or how about the fact that she asked all three if they ever got sick and they all said no?
Sanji and Zoro wouldn't admit they got sick in front of each other, and Luffy…he's just being Luffy
Zoro wasn't introduced as a foe, he was introduced as a dangerous guy. There's a major difference. Upon Luffy hearing about Zoro, he instantly wanted a closer look because he was interested in recruiting him. Closer to two ;o)
Demonic beast = bad guy = villan Case Closed
No seriously, he greatest feat was based on her power that got taken away (the pollen spore bombs). Taking out Pell is childs play with her powers, especially when you're not expecting it (especially when you're that weak).
…Pell was stronger than Iggy, so therefore your logic doesn't work. And what do you mean "With her powers"? Thats like saying "Crocodile taking out luffy was a piece of cake with his powers"
And lol @ almost killed Moria. You should tell her that, it might force her to crack a smile. Also tell Moria while you're at it, he could do with dying of laughter. Just to clarify, she weren't strong enough to break him instantly and he had time to actually counter her. She failed.
…exactly.
Yes you're right, he hadn't come up with Gear 2 and yet a mere few hours later, had managed to conceive the idea and put it into practice using a line such as "my body still isn't used to this".
Ok, I'll put it clearer: Oda wasn't prepered to reveal Luffy had come up with gear 2.
lol :o\
…Is what people say when they can't think of a comeback, correct.
I have no interest in judging your spelling. Though, if you're going to post again, please quote properly or not at all.
Why? it just takes up space and takes you more time to do.
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you know what taily, fuck right off. in order for me to answer you, i gotta copy shit out. learn to use a forum if you want to debate and what's worse is that the points you're trying to make are fucking weak.
To be fair, if Zoro can dodge bullets, i see no reason why a much stronger opponent can't. Remember with Logia's you have to activate their powers, so even if Kizaru did let it go through him, he'd have had to activate the power first. I pretty much think he just dodged.
Whoa well this was the first thing i thought of when i first read about the 3 admirals all those years ago
I did think Zoro vs iceman when he brought out that ice sword of his but now im unsure considering that iceman is the strongest
kizarus just is too much like Sanji for them not to fight lol just look at his face
then who evers the 3rd admiral well depends on weapon
thing is Luffy says he don't want to conquer anytihng but be the most free person on the sea, to do that no one SHOULD be able to stop him that means that he has to beat down every single person in his way
a king is free to do as he wants but when theres wars the kings freedom is threatend so luffy knows to achieve his goal he would have to be the strongest around
Zoro goal already got him fighting swordsmen in his way
sanji well he has no reason to ever fight unless protecting a lady
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sanji well he has no reason to ever fight unless protecting a lady
Well unless you ignore the fact that he wants to be a world renowned infamous pirate who's feared by the marines.
