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Freedom of speech, YOU get out of America.
… Get out.
I'm sorry, but freedom of speech isn't much the point. There's no point in being an ungrateful impatient ass (which gets this for FREE) because the hard working author took a week break.
@$abZ:
It seems any negative towards Oda here is a crime. Get people jumpin' at me.
Yeah, it is frustratin' though, it's becoming a regular break. He'll never get the manga finished quick enough if he says he's only around half way in.
Wow, you're thick.
While I agree, that people here are quick to go sakrilegical hysteric once someone says something against Oda, statements like yours above simply call for a response to set things straight. Just look at it in a numeric way. He's taking something in between 2 and 4 breaks a year, which means that One Piece has about 48 to 50 chapters in that period. It doesn't take a math genius to comprehend that a break once in a while won't postpone the end of the manga for eons. So yeah, your worries lack any base. If he would make a break like Hunter x Hunters Togashi, then the situation would be different.
Well I admire the fact that you think so deeply into this. Yeah, I guess you're right. The breaks should be more flexible though… they're frustrating.
And Buuhan, who jumps to call me thick, is clearly a genius on AP forums.
Actually "Buggy!" is NOT a sentence. For a sentence to be, grammatically (sp?) correct, it has to have a verb, and a subject. In "Stop!" you have the verb "stop" and the subject "you" (although hidden). In "I want to eat" there's "to eat" and there's "I". In "Buggy" there's no verb therefore it's not a real sentence.
This is quite incorrect, actually.
A complete sentence requires a subject and a predicate. In regards to semantics, a predicate is very different from a verb, despite the fact that a predicate must contain a verb.
Moreover, your example of "I want to eat." is also incorrect. "I" is the subject, and "want to eat" is the predicate, with "want" being the predicating verb. "I to eat" is not a complete thought, but "I want" can stand alone.
There is a chapter this coming week, or is Oda taking two weeks off, I am not sure from what I'm seeing in the thread.
As for a complete sentence, it really doesn't matter, a line does not need to be a complete sentence, it simply needs to be standalone. "Buggy!" is standalone, a complete thought, regardless of its merits as a 'sentence', it is a line, and therefore Zoro has three lines this chapter.
I really think that Kizaru is going to going to be fighting the Strawhats very, very soon, he doesn't care about the other rookies, he's not going to take them out unless they get in his way. He specifically came to the island to take out the strawhats because the strawhats hit the noble, if that hadn't happened, he would not be there, and he has other business to attend to and promised his command that it wouldn't take a lot of time.
He plans to go in, deal with the strawhats, and immediately go back, he's not there to play, the other rookies are safe unless they are stupid.
foxy didn't do anything to time. he slowed down an objects movement, but the one slowed were still fully concious about what happened around him in real time.
I guess that's a more accurate statement. Thanks for correcting me.
About the wait, I'd prefer the wait for a quality manga, rather than having to think about all the times when the story just drags on, which is rare in this manga, compared to Bleach and Naruto anyway.
As for Kizaru, he's here with his troops, so while he takes on the Strawhats, his troops take care of whatever is in the way.
@$abZ:
Well I admire the fact that you think so deeply into this. Yeah, I guess you're right. The breaks should be more flexible though… they're frustrating.
It's not really a deep thought but an obvious observation. And of course it's frustrating to have a OP-less week but it's not more then a minor drawback.
There is a chapter this coming week, or is Oda taking two weeks off, I am not sure from what I'm seeing in the thread.
Lol, that gets misunderstood so often. Basically if we have one week off, then it means that fourteen days pass without a new chapter since the chaps appear weekly. In other words if when we get a chapter next Friday two weeks since the last one will have passed. Get it?
Ppl should just learn to put, I think, or IMO, or whatever before they make a statement and all should be good or AP users should just see all posts as subjective opinion, not general truth or a claim etc…
Whatever the case I partially agree with $abZ, while I do understand Oda is a human also and like all humans he desires or needs some time off and a break, it really is annoying...
Its like you are watching idk the news every day then one day some bastard says that the news crew have taken 1 day off and then that happens a couple of times more in that year or whatever...
Its not comparing Odas manga with the news which are a necesity to have but more like the annoyance and perhaps the flexibility...smth like...mr oda work harder for some other days so you have a chapter stored or smth and then take a vacation for 2 weeks...you making two chapters enables you to do that and also ppl dont have to wait for the new chapter longer...
I could see that managable but is it only my wishful thinking...God/Oda knows...
And to make everyone happy I ll add the: This was all just my opinion part in the end and I appologize if I have offended some hardcore pro-Oda taking breaks dude...
Ah and P.S. The thing which bugs me the most is that there was no: Sorry no chapter next week or whatever note on the last page from Oda, call me traditionalist or whatever I expected at least the "sorry" note not that we all need it, its just smth which imo would be nice to have to
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This is quite incorrect, actually.
A complete sentence requires a subject and a predicate. In regards to semantics, a predicate is very different from a verb, despite the fact that a predicate must contain a verb.
Moreover, your example of "I want to eat." is also incorrect. "I" is the subject, and "want to eat" is the predicate, with "want" being the predicating verb. "I to eat" is not a complete thought, but "I want" can stand alone.
Oops I messed that up ^^
I mean "want" is the verb.
Hypocryte for you 
Anyway it doesn't change the fact "Buggy" is not a sentence.
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Seems like that coverstory is coming to an end. Do you guys think we will see another battle between strawhats and the CP9?
I like that giant, Jean Bart will be of great help to the heart pirates.
I wonder what trafalgar will do, seems like he is spinning some energi. Would be fun to see a humiliating mix of Kuma and some weird objects
or seeing him holding the head of kuma in his hand while that pacifista screams out loud.. But It surely wont happen.
Interesting to hear about that disease, maybe someone in the crew will get it as well.. It will be a huge challenge to chopper to find some kind of cure for it. (his dream was something about finding the cure to all diseases after all, right?)
I believe Kizarus ability is speed, he could quickly get on that cannonball or maybe he can slow down the time at his will like someone mentioned here earlier..
just some thoughts on the chapter..
Peace.
I was just rewatching the anime episodes with Robin's past, and while I used to not buy into the theory, I was comparing Kizaru's shadowed image to paused images of Spandine.
I mean, lord. He's got the sideburns and hairline, the vertical stripes….every bit of him.
There's a comment that Spandine is wearing a coat while Kizaru is wearing a jacket...but Kuzan's look changed a little bit when he became Aokiji. And then there's the comment that Spandine was not a direct marine officer, but he took orders from Sengoku when he was an Admiral. Also, it was also pointed out that both Sakazuki and Kuzan, the two other major players of Ohara, have since become Admirals.
Honestly, at this point, I'd be surprised as hell if Kizaru is NOT Spandine.
And they also have the same speech pattern, as was pointed out earlier as well.
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Honestly, at this point, I'd be surprised as hell if Kizaru is NOT Spandine.
I'd actually be pretty surprised if he would turn out to be Spandain.
1. He's a government official, while not utterly impossible it would surely be weird for him to get a promotion amongst the military ranks. The bureaucrat he is I'm sure he aimed for a promotion within the same field bureaucratic.
2. Also not impossible but unlikely for somebody like him to grow in strenght that much to be one of the three top tiers of the Marine. Helmeppo at least went under some drastic changes in order to switch his world view. Spandain so far does not strike me as a person who would follow that route since unlike Helmeppo, he was successful at being a bastard.
3. Again, 20 years is a lot of time for change, but I can't see Spandain who was a grown man back then grow to the size of a basketballer out of a sudden. Doesn't make much sense.
4. The nose, mouth and chin structure are completely different:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/394/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/504/05/
Though with Oda everything is possibly, this one would be really too unlikely to actually happen. But at least all three Admirals would be connected to the Ohara incident this way. However I hope and think that someone else will be the Yellow Monkey.
Guys, Kizaru is Duval.
The question is: why would Oda hide his face if we didn't know him before ?
Morgan's face was hidden. So was Croc's. Franky's was too!
I didn't see anyone scream OMG!! Alivida is Makino!!!
He's hiding it for dramatic effect. As you see, it has you yearning for more so i say it's also a plot device.
though i would hate that bastard spandine to be kizaru, it would maybe explain why an idiot like spandam became the head of the CP9. and interesting that all 3 admirals r connected to the ohara incident. well, the nose is similar IMO, spandine's pic wasnt full front, while kixaru's is. speaking of facial structure, coby's face also changed if u hadnt noticed. apparently all the evidence is leading to spandine. or maybe thats what oda wants us to think????
Kizaru's special troops are the Rosy Life Riders
Ah, good eye there, but I thought the special troops were THE KIDNAPPING TEAM COFFEE MONKEYS11!
Wasn't spandine a cowardish wimp from the world government-branch of justice?
I somehow have a hard time to imagine him being now a over-the-top tough badass from the marine. o0
The question is: why would Oda hide his face if we didn't know him before ?
Suspense possibly?
Wasn't spandine a cowardish wimp from the world government-branch of justice?
I somehow have a hard time to imagine him being now a over-the-top tough badass from the marine. o0
…as someone mentioned before, it would be pretty amusing if he was still an incredible weakling who just knows how to make a flashy entrance.
It makes sense that he still is weak that way he always stay behind his troops
 LFC
If Kizaru turns out to be Spandam I ll change my opinion about OP developing growing over time.
Sure OP obtains the easy going atmosphere and at least humor through it all but I was getting a feeling it really has become more serious and have come to love it loads more cause of it…
Keep the humor but dont cross the line where all just becomes too goofy...
That would be my wish and nothing more...
Kizaru Spandine...must say one of the most poo like stuff I have heard...
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The admiral's face being covered in shadow is just for drama. EVERY villain before has had the same thing done, far back as Morgan. It keeps you in suspense about what someone looks like just a little bit longer. Once we actually see his face there will be clear shots of it all the time and you'll forget it was ever hidden. Heck, Mr. 2 was first hinted at on one page with a shot of his back, and then wasn't fully revealed for 3 volumes! (Mostly because the Drum arc took place inbetween, but still…)
As for Oda taking a week off, he's probably taking that week long break to do some or all of the following: coloring book, a pop up book, do a SJ cover, a color spread, design characters for a filler arc in the anime, organize the 4th Color Walk, work on a data book, stop by the movie studio to participate in storyboards for movie 10, do a 9 page random side story for the collections like Oba Time or Monster Time or Chopperman, 10 pages of random other stuff, do the next trade cover, or maybe go to an aquarium to get some reference images for fishman island.
Seriously folks, Oda keeps busy and does a lot more than just the main comic. LAST time he took a break, it was to design the supernovas, (I assume since the next week is when all 9 of their unique character designs appeared,) the time before that was Golden Week which everyone gets off, the time before that he was SICK, and the only time before that I can recall was over a year earlier to design the Sunny Go. (Where he was on a break for a week, obviously spending time studing ships and designing Sunny.) I don't think he took a single break during the ENTIRE Enies Lobby arc, and Thriller Bark was pretty much a solid run too.
So, a sick week, a development week, and a company wide holiday. This sounds like its his first actual week off in the last three years, and he's probably not even really taking the whole thing off.
Really, in general he only takes 3 or 4 weeks off (counting Golden week non publication week that EVERYONE at Jump gets) over the entire year. 48 chapters a year is pretty damn good, especially when its at the quality and level of detail that Oda takes. Compared to Naruto and Bleach which are headshot fests, or Berserk which takes 3 months for every chapter (which looks great, but it does take three months) or Hunter X Hunter which takes 16 week hiatuses every 10 weeks, Oda skipping a single week is NOTHING. Particularly when he's probably not even entirely taking the vacation he deserves, but working on behind the scenes stuff that takes time to develop. Man is a workaholic.
it'd be pretty funny if that guy really was spandinde, simply announcing that Kizaru was on his ship behind him….lol
@robbybevard:
The admiral's face being covered in shadow is just for drama. EVERY villain before has had the same thing done, far back as Morgan. It keeps you in suspense about what someone looks like just a little bit longer. Once we actually see his face there will be clear shots of it all the time and you'll forget it was ever hidden. Heck, Mr. 2 was first hinted at on one page with a shot of his back, and then wasn't fully revealed for 3 volumes! (Mostly because the Drum arc took place inbetween, but still…)
As for Oda taking a week off, he's probably taking that week long break to do some or all of the following: coloring book, a pop up book, do a SJ cover, a color spread, design characters for a filler arc in the anime, organize the 4th Color Walk, work on a data book, stop by the movie studio to participate in storyboards for movie 10, do a 9 page random side story for the collections like Oba Time or Monster Time or Chopperman, 10 pages of random other stuff, do the next trade cover, or maybe go to an aquarium to get some reference images for fishman island.
Seriously folks, Oda keeps busy and does a lot more than just the main comic. LAST time he took a break, it was to design the supernovas, (I assume since the next week is when all 9 of their unique character designs appeared,) the time before that was Golden Week which everyone gets off, the time before that he was SICK, and the only time before that I can recall was over a year earlier to design the Sunny Go. (Where he was on a break for a week, obviously spending time studing ships and designing Sunny.) I don't think he took a single break during the ENTIRE Enies Lobby arc, and Thriller Bark was pretty much a solid run too.
So, a sick week, a development week, and a company wide holiday. This sounds like its his first actual week off in the last three years, and he's probably not even really taking the whole thing off.
Really, in general he only takes 3 or 4 weeks off (counting Golden week non publication week that EVERYONE at Jump gets) over the entire year. 48 chapters a year is pretty damn good, especially when its at the quality and level of detail that Oda takes. Compared to Naruto and Bleach which are headshot fests, or Berserk which takes 3 months for every chapter (which looks great, but it does take three months) or Hunter X Hunter which takes 16 week hiatuses every 10 weeks, Oda skipping a single week is NOTHING. Particularly when he's probably not even entirely taking the vacation he deserves, but working on behind the scenes stuff that takes time to develop. Man is a workaholic.
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Dude, that was awesome. That deserved the vertical preach right there.
If I could rep you, I'd have done it 10 times already.
Great stuff.
People need to appreciate how hard Oda has it. He has to draw and redraw, edit and reedit, go through every excruciating detail with his editors and if it's not liked it's axed. Not to mention coming up with the actual story. At the same time maintaining his art and story quality. And he's been doing this for 10 years!!! Hell I wouldn't mind if he was using this break to just screw around with his wife and being a lazy ass. The man deserves it. It's incredible how much he loves his work and his fans and how hard he works for them. If he needs a break, by all goddamn means let him take one!!!!
Suspense possibly?
In fact I think it's more a problem of immersion: Oda wants us to live the story as if we were part of the SH crew. We will see his face when the SH will see him. We (and the SH) know who he is (an admiral), know that he is on the way, and know why. We (SH) just haven't seen him yet.
For example it would be lame if we were to discover his face when he'd meet Law or Kidd if he was to meet them first…
In fact I think it's more a problem of immersion: Oda wants us to live the story as if we were part of the SH crew. We will see his face when the SH will see him. We (and the SH) know who he is (an admiral), know that he is on the way, and know why. We (SH) just haven't seen him yet.
For example it would be lame if we were to discover his face when he'd meet Law or Kidd if he was to meet them first…
Unless I'm mistaken the strawhats doesn't know he is on the way… they assume/suspect someone will come since that is what is said to happen, but they don't know it is happening.
And they don't know anything about theese little (in lack of a better phrase) side chapters that show blackbeard fighting ace, Buggy looking for treasure, Smoker hunting them, Shanks meeting both Mihawk and Whitebeard and dragon (and the others)commenting on the bounties.
At least you seem to have abandoned the thought that he must be someone we know because we didn't get to see his face right away... (assuming that is what you meant with your question in post 405)
In fact I think it's more a problem of immersion: Oda wants us to live the story as if we were part of the SH crew. We will see his face when the SH will see him. We (and the SH) know who he is (an admiral), know that he is on the way, and know why. We (SH) just haven't seen him yet.
For example it would be lame if we were to discover his face when he'd meet Law or Kidd if he was to meet them first…
As Gorlom said, we wouldn't even know that he's on the way until we meet him then. By that logic we would have never seen guys like the Gorosei, Sengoku, Doflamingo or Whitebeard.
I searched back five pages for a general duval thread. done a search on duval and searched five pages of that and neither bore any fruit so i gave up on that plan and started looking for a general thread which could cover it. i was sure there was a "threads that don't deserves their own threads" thread, but i only saw the "theories that don't deserve their own threads" and "questions that don't deserve their own threads" so after all that, i finally decided to just make this thread and allow the mods to deal with it's proper location, and trust me, it's not even worth the build up hence me wanting to bury it on the last page of an existing thread.
But alas, rechecking 506, i found this (hoorah) http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-506/page006.html and once you've looked at that look at this http://www.dontstayin.com/uk/birmingham/air/2008/jul/12/photo-10012943
Mildly amusing!
I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler
Assuming Shanks&Mihawk are around the same age you think Mihawk was a world famous swordsman at 15,16? He could have but it makes a little more sense that when Shanks was only a cabin boy he was a fledgling swordsman or at best a skilled upstart in his native Blue. 13 years is a lot of time for both to men to start their own journeys, gain fame&power, make it to the New World, then settle comfortably with their status.
Kenshin was essentially a world famous swordsman at 15,16… and Oda may have taken something from there. Anyways, that's just throwing random thoughts out there.
To point. When Whitebeard is speaking to Shanks about things of the past, WB mentions the duels between Shanks and Mihawk in the same line of thought. Just because Shanks started out as a Cabin boy in Roger's crew doesn't mean when the Jolly Roger pirates were disbanded, Shanks was still only a Cabin boy.
I didn't quite get your 13 years reference point...
I would certainly say so. I always imagined the shichibukai as being a way for the Marines to get some major pirates out of the game ~~ not just giving them some extra firepower. I am not sure you really stated your point though…...or at least you lost me. What were the implications? That there were less pirates and that Roger brought the increase about and thus the Shichi came thereafter? What about the shady part?? I just want you to explain it more is all, I like the topic.
I was trying to establish an accurate hypothesis for the political and strengh/power situation in Roger's active time. If we have a general concensus for what it was originally, then we can get a decent degree of interpolation without rampant comments about canon and "no, that's wrong!" and the likes.
I plan to expand my theory, but I'm still formulating my thoughts.
And yes, I was implying that there were far fewer pirates in Roger's time and that the WG/MHQ could not stop piracy (the likes of Roger) even at that time.
@robbybevard:
As for Oda taking a week off, he's probably taking that week long break to do some or all of the following: coloring book, a pop up book, do a SJ cover, a color spread, design characters for a filler arc in the anime, organize the 4th Color Walk, work on a data book, stop by the movie studio to participate in storyboards for movie 10, do a 9 page random side story for the collections like Oba Time or Monster Time or Chopperman, 10 pages of random other stuff, do the next trade cover, or maybe go to an aquarium to get some reference images for fishman island.
Seriously folks, Oda keeps busy and does a lot more than just the main comic. LAST time he took a break, it was to design the supernovas, (I assume since the next week is when all 9 of their unique character designs appeared,) the time before that was Golden Week which everyone gets off, the time before that he was SICK, and the only time before that I can recall was over a year earlier to design the Sunny Go. (Where he was on a break for a week, obviously spending time studing ships and designing Sunny.) I don't think he took a single break during the ENTIRE Enies Lobby arc, and Thriller Bark was pretty much a solid run too.
So, a sick week, a development week, and a company wide holiday. This sounds like its his first actual week off in the last three years, and he's probably not even really taking the whole thing off.
Really, in general he only takes 3 or 4 weeks off (counting Golden week non publication week that EVERYONE at Jump gets) over the entire year. 48 chapters a year is pretty damn good, especially when its at the quality and level of detail that Oda takes. Compared to Naruto and Bleach which are headshot fests, or Berserk which takes 3 months for every chapter (which looks great, but it does take three months) or Hunter X Hunter which takes 16 week hiatuses every 10 weeks, Oda skipping a single week is NOTHING. Particularly when he's probably not even entirely taking the vacation he deserves, but working on behind the scenes stuff that takes time to develop. Man is a workaholic.
I honestly like to think that when Oda takes a week off, he's really getting a week off. At present, the poor man probably doesn't even get vacation. I'm really hoping that these breaks are times when he isn't doing any work at all. Oda has already told us through the SBS that he's generally about 2-3 chapters ahead (i.e. working on chapter 403 when 400 is released).
Also, I thought Oda has assistants that help him with some of the drawing and generally the assumption for little screw-ups like Croc's hands, and the Rocketman missing it's face.
Ha that was pretty amusing…Makes you wonder is some people do have problem winking
Nicely found sabret00the.
Anyway about this whole Spandine = Kizaru.People say Spandine was too much of a coward to becoming a 'admiral' and i agree with this.Perhaps he rose up into the ranks and gained courage when he ate a DF?I mean i would like to see some overly powered dude without a DF to show us the true power of the WG but if Oda does give Kizaru a DF i'd want it to be unique like Law's..not just some 'I can cantrol wind,I'm a over powered logia,you can't touch me' kinda DF....
I mean i would like to see some overly powered dude without a DF to show us the true power of the WG
Like Garp you mean?
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
Like Garp you mean?
Yep like Garp.But Garp is obviously not the the 'True Power' of the WG as he is not yet an admiral….
Like Garp you mean?
Garp is old now, so he probably isn't as strong as he was. (Your point stands regardless). I bet when Garp was younger he was much like Karugara without a spear. I am sure there are others like him. I have no point in this post other than agreeing with Gorlom and posting a link to Karugara doing something ridiculously awesome.
Kenshin was essentially a world famous swordsman at 15,16… and Oda may have taken something from there. Anyways, that's just throwing random thoughts out there.
To point. When Whitebeard is speaking to Shanks about things of the past, WB mentions the duels between Shanks and Mihawk in the same line of thought. Just because Shanks started out as a Cabin boy in Roger's crew doesn't mean when the Jolly Roger pirates were disbanded, Shanks was still only a Cabin boy.
I didn't quite get your 13 years reference point...
Shanks was 28 when he met Luffy right? I'm saying he had enough time between the Roger pirates disbanding and meeting Luffy to go from Cabin Boy to Yonkou. Mihawk could have been Uber but I doubt Shanks was capable of single handedly cutting battleships when he parted ways with buggy.
Shanks was 28 when he met Luffy right? I'm saying he had enough time between the Roger pirates disbanding and meeting Luffy to go from Cabin Boy to Yonkou. Mihawk could have been Uber but I doubt Shanks was capable of single handedly cutting battleships when he parted ways with buggy.
Ah, I see you point. However, I don't think I agree. There are still many unknowns. For example, from what we know for sure. Shanks joined as a Cabin boy, but we don't know when he actually joined. I like to think it was before Roger's final voyage, or at least just when Roger set out on his final voyage, since Whitebeard remembers Shanks from the battles between Roger and Whitebeard. And Roger's final voyage lasted for 3 years, and then he was by himself for an additional year before he turned himself, and was executed. That makes at least 4 years for Shanks to be working under the likes of Roger. If Garp can turn Coby and Helmepp into men from wusses in a couple weeks, then I think Roger can turn someone like Shanks into a great warrior in 3 years (+ 1 year on his own).
The most convincing evidence for me is what Whitebeard says about Shanks duels with Mihawk. This is all related to the battles from 22 years ago. At least, this is how i'm interpretting it.
So Shanks might have had his duels with Mihawk back when they were 15 years old?
If a weakling like helmeppo can be tur,ned into a decent fighter in a couple of week then I have no doubt a guy like spandine can turn into a powerful fighter in 20 years ( if kizaru=spandine that is). Anyway spandine was loyal to the WG , not like his son who wanted the ancient weapons for himself , he had a soldier like personnality unlike spandam so if he really turn to be kizaru I wouldn't be surprised since old characters tend to reappear those last weeks.
If it's really him then I want to know the real relation between cipher pols and marines because the CP also gave order not only to the cp agents but also to the marines .
Kizaru can`t be Spandam,
otherwise Robin (who surely knows everything about WG, Admirals, Yonkou, Samurai…) would have told us a few times before.
Especially when she talked about Ohara ... or when she talked about the 3 Admirals ...
So for me it`s totally nonsense ...
---> Kizaru is not Spandam ! <---
Spandine is NOT spandam.
And robin surely didn't tell us that aokiji's real name was Kuzan , "Kisaru"is a title just like"aokiji" , it's not their real name.
To be honest i'd like Kizaru to be Spandine.I'd like to see how Oda has eveolved this spineless dog to the goverment into a top tier Admiral.It also be cool as then the three Admirals were all linked to the Ohara incident.
errrrr hey if spandine was really kizaru then he would have done something during w7 arc right and that kizaru dude i think he has been an admidral even before w7 incident so i think there will be very little chance it will be spandine… and i dont find any reason why kizaru could be spandine
If a weakling like helmeppo can be tur,ned into a decent fighter in a couple of week then I have no doubt a guy like spandine can turn into a powerful fighter in 20 years ( if kizaru=spandine that is).
The difference is that Helmeppo's previous world view was crushed thanks to Luffy and that he had to find a new path. Spandain would require a similar experience in order for such a growth. I he's been pushing the same lifestyle build up on the same world view we know he has slim chances of growing.
^That's why i think if he ate a DF it would give him more courage and make him rely less on his gaurds.This could also have made him see a new view of the world,giving him the courage and power to take out big shots thus rising in the ranks and becoming an Admiral.Although I would like to see at least one admiral fight without a DF <_<
I've seen an increasing number of posts saying, I hope character X doesn't have a DF.
To date in the One Piece story, the strongest characters: Roger, Whitebeard, Shanks, Mihawk; All of them so far have not had a DF linked to their name and or power. I left out Rayleigh because of the vagueness of Hachi saving him at sea. But I think stephen's script said that Rayleigh was stranded at sea, and that's very different to drowning at sea. Also, I think it's noteworthy that BB gave shanks his scar prior to gaining his DF powers.
There's obviously something to these older characters and their remarkable strength. I saw a theory once about the increase in DF abilities being a way to fill the gap between the old generation and the new generation, and I kind of like that idea.
Regarding Spandain being Kizaru, highly doubtful. however, you never know with Oda. While it's not impossible for a character to grow in character and in strength through training, DF, or whatever method helps them achieve it. So far, Oda has done a damn good job of establishing which characters will be forces to be reckoned with. We're lead to believe that the admirals are such a force. Spandain's introduction is in no way connected to such an ability. So this is why the adomant sayers of "No way, Spandain can't be Kizaru" are preaching this in disbelief. At least, this is what I think on the situation.
507 spoilers are out, no thread yet though…
So I hope that Kuma doesn't get rid of both Kidd and Law.
