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LUCCI DA PIGEON PIMP

I don't know if there is already a topic for that , if there is please excuse me and lock or erase that topic , thanks.
i often heard that people don't die in one piece , i don't agree with that because i' ve seen a of lot characters dying in one piece , the only ones who don't die are the main characters and a few background characters .
For exemple the guy who attack luffy at the beggening of the adventure has been killed by a sea monster, the guys who refuse to obey to the colonel morgan have been killed as well , there is also one of the buggy pirates who have been killed by buggy himself with his cannon ( the one who has lost the grandline map).
Oda seems to like killing random characters who are not important.
What you think about that ?

Try to find those random murders ' cause there are a lot of them in the one piece saga.

IzakiRio_FLAME

i agree. and a lot fo people died during the water seven place. cuz CP9 came along. kinda sucks. but i agree, the main caras never die. they shouldnt…>_<

Been discussed to death.

joekido the Second

Well this is freah. Anyway, the Mewban brothers died, the Alabastan guards died, the Piggy pirates in Nanohana died. Characters rarly dies

from another thread:

there is no way that bellamy is dead, people already said that after luffys "fight" with him.he is as dead as pell,viper,enel,mr.3 and all the others

There is a slim chance of him being dead, at least certainly much bigger than with those characters, but it's still quite small and, yeah, I believe he is alive until proven otherwise.

hey we saw what happend to pell,viper and mr.3.i say these three were as dead as its possible for present op main characters.

oceanizer

_< Pell is NOT dead!!

cowboybribop

ocean is right, Pell isn't dead, not even close. I thought Arlong and the other mermen died, but apparently he/they didn't. I know that Hachi didn't die. Does anyone know the answer to that one?

joekido the Second

Bellemy is dead, he became a mtyer of the New Pirate Age

Originally posted by oceanizer@May 26 2005, 02:42 PM
>_< Pell is NOT dead!!

i see you dont understand my last post.i listed people who should be dead after all what happend to their bodies but were still alive.

for all:
its confirmed that pell,viper and mr.3 are alive!

oceanizer

Oda clearly noted that he will never kill anybody in one of his SBS. I assume they were all heavily injured, but not dead. Period. It's a miraculous world! :D!

Zephos

Originally posted by GÃ¼nther+May 26 2005, 02:51 PM–>QUOTE(GÃ¼nther @ May 26 2005, 02:51 PM)

oceanizer

I think he meant Waiper from Jaya.
Who's Bellamy? What did he do? And Shura?

cowboybribop

Yeah didn't he say something to the effect that when Luffy defeats an opponent he is killing their dreams and beliefs. And that to Oda is worse than death.

Originally posted by oceanizer@May 26 2005, 03:11 PM
I think he meant Waiper from Jaya.
Who's Bellamy? What did he do? And Shura?
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jo waiper=viper but that wasnt to hard to see, was it?

bellamy appears in jaya what plays after alabasta arc and shura in skypia which comes after jaya.
or do you really want to be spoiled?

Yeah didn't he say something to the effect that when Luffy defeats an opponent he is killing their dreams and beliefs. And that to Oda is worse than death.

thats 100% right!

oceanizer

Viper=Wiper was okay for me cause I took German and know V is pronounced W in English… But might be harder for others.

I read them already, just needed to refresh my memory

Ganner_Rhysode · 9/2/2008

Who's Pell?? And didn't Grizzly, the Mountain-Raider from the first Chapter die?? "In the Belly of the Beast".

pell is the falcon guy from alabasta.
are you the same Ganner_Rhysode from the carlsen forums?

@oceanizer
oh ok.

Ganner_Rhysode · 9/2/2008

yep, I am the same and original Ganner_Rhysode . Pell didn't die? I just have thought such a thing, but wasn't sure…

i see i am not the only one who is tired from "the past iron rose situation" in the carlsen forums.

pell appeared in gedatsus cover story.

And didn't Grizzly, the Mountain-Raider from the first Chapter die??

His name is Higuma.

and again grizzly is his german name.

Zephos

Originally posted by oceanizer@May 26 2005, 03:11 PM
Who's Bellamy? What did he do? And Shura?
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Theres just something about the way Oda does this scene that suggests "hes gone…"

Shura......read the part where he gets eliminated again.
Just look at him....

to make it complete this is shuras end:

and no if i say end i dont mean dead.

Theres just something about the way Oda does this scene that suggests "hes gone…"

Probably not showing a headless Bellamy.
Wich was the suggestion that I think Oda wanted to show us.

Zephos

Look at Shura up there.
That says dead to me.
(notice that both Bellamy and Shura are assholes that no one will miss)

Buccaneer

Krieg had the same expression when he got slammed.

Zephos

Not quite.
Every villain has pretty much blank eyes after defeat.

But Shuras body and mouth suggest death to me.

Secondly, that exact same attack killed Ener(who revived himself). So why not Shura?

normyk

There are two deaths that I noticed in watching the anime lately. One is certain, one is questionable (its the anime and the character who dies is a filler character).

Mr. 11 is killed by the Billions on board the Marines ship. Both manga and anime.

The bad guy from the apis arc (forget his name - the wind scythe guy) gets kicked off the ship by Nami on the way up the reverse mountain (episode 61). Since he is a DF user and therefore a hammer one would assume that he is also a corpse. Don't want to think of Nami as a cold-blooded killer like that. Its possible that he might have had flunkies around to fish him out. My assumption is that he is dead. Of course he is pure filler so I don't think he should count.

Ivotas

Originally posted by Rody@May 26 2005, 11:28 PM
**> Theres just something about the way Oda does this scene that suggests "hes gone…"

Probably not showing a headless Bellamy.
Wich was the suggestion that I think Oda wanted to show us.
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My opinion exactly. Though we have seen much violence in OP weÂ´ve never seen anyone get behead so far. I mean what other reason should be there to not see the final strike itself? WeÂ´ve seen people get cut or sliced by knifeÂ´s and swords so many times.
Besides on the previous pages Doflamingo already had Bellamy hurt baldy. So practically he already did his business and tortured him. The final strike was just there to end it. BellamyÂ´s live that is.

Besides if he wouldnÂ´t have killed him, Doflamingo would appear a lot less lethal and that doesnÂ´t serve actually of establishing a serious threat level for him in order to be the Strawhats next big enemy.

Overlord_Shadow_Luffy

i found a random death, the kuro arc where the FAKE kuro was arrested by captain morgan and shot by marines. I am not talking about the 4kids version because if i did, he wounldnt be dead just soaked with water.

Ivotas

Actually weÂ´re just discussing whether people died in the current time. It happens quite frequently that someone dies in a flashback. Grizzly, Bellemery, Hiluluk are the best example for that.

LUCCI DA PIGEON PIMP

The whole entire ener's guard has been killed except gedatsu who has been the only survivor .

no the shadias said that they want to throw them to the blue ocean before they wake up,that means they were still alive.

LUCCI DA PIGEON PIMP

i was talking about the 50 guards and that yama guy, but what you say is true for the priest.

Don't forget that Gin died.

I'd argue that Arlong has to be dead, but at this point, its an argument where everyone knows which side they're on, and there isn't anypoint discussing it anymore.

Ivotas

Originally posted by Brave Warrior@ Captain Usopp,May 27 2005, 09:07 PM
Don't forget that Gin died.
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When did that happen? He went of with Krieg and all of his men and said that heÂ´ll take course for the Grand Line himself.

Zephos

Originally posted by GÃ¼nther@May 27 2005, 06:32 AM
no the shadias said that they want to throw them to the blue ocean before they wake up,that means they were still alive.
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The Shandians said they would put them on a floating moving cloud, and that they would be stuck on it for all time.

Its what happend to the ship that falls from the sky at Jayas beggining.

igalsfy

Originally posted by Ivotas+May 28 2005, 01:34 AM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 28 2005, 01:34 AM)

Originally posted by Ivotas+May 27 2005, 06:34 PM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 27 2005, 06:34 PM)

RedShanks

Originally posted by cowboybribop@May 26 2005, 02:45 PM
I thought Arlong and the other mermen died, but apparently he/they didn't. I know that Hachi didn't die. Does anyone know the answer to that one?
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I think all of them were arrested and Hachi was the only one able to escape.

Originally posted by Zephos@May 27 2005, 07:03 PM
**The Shandians said they would put them on a floating moving cloud, and that they would be stuck on it for all time.

Its what happend to the ship that falls from the sky at Jayas beggining.
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ah ok i couldnt remeber what they said exactly.

if i remember well, he just had a few days left to live because of the MC5, but he said he'll go, doing what he wanted with all he had until the end.

i can remeber that too but i also remeber that he said he will meet the strawhats in the grandline again.maybe they changed it in the anime because its to cruel for the kids that he dies?

Ivotas

Originally posted by Brave Warrior+ Captain Usopp,May 28 2005, 02:20 AM–>QUOTE(Brave Warrior @ Captain Usopp,May 28 2005, 02:20 AM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 27 2005, 06:34 PM

**Don't forget that Gin died.
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When did that happen? He went of with Krieg and all of his men and said that heÂ´ll take course for the Grand Line himself.
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As he's leaving he says he only has a couple of hours left to live.
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Actually he says he MAY have only a couple of hours left. Himself like everyone of us is not sure for how long he will stay alive because we donÂ´t know how effective the medicine was that has been given to him._

Rashie

for my opinion, ODA may be trying to bring people who died close to them in another form. It maybe rubbish but this is what I thought in deep thoughts. Please don't flame me T_______T;;;

People StrawHats Lost

Luffy=I not sure
Zoro=Kuina
Nami=Bellemere
Ussop=his mum
Sanji= not sure
Chopper=Dr Hiruku
Robin = unknown

Tashigi [Kuina].
Tashigi looks like Kuina so that she may not be forgotten by the series. Although its past Alabasta now

-both are great swordswomen

Sanji [Bellemere]
Here are some similarities, may remind us of Bellemere.

-tall
-smokes
-cooks
-give good advices
-willing to sacriface

I am not sure about the rest but these are the ones I found out :). you don't have to agree with them :X just a thought

Zephos

Originally posted by Ivotas+May 28 2005, 04:37 AM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 28 2005, 04:37 AM) _> Originally posted by Brave Warrior@ Captain Usopp,May 28 2005, 02:20 AM

**> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 27 2005, 06:34 PM

**Don't forget that Gin died.
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When did that happen? He went of with Krieg and all of his men and said that heÂ´ll take course for the Grand Line himself.
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As he's leaving he says he only has a couple of hours left to live.
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Actually he says he MAY have only a couple of hours left. Himself like everyone of us is not sure for how long he will stay alive because we donÂ´t know how effective the medicine was that has been given to him.
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Or we could take "may" to mean hes talking about the absolute minimum he has left. As compared to the defenite end hes still going to face._

Shinagamithe3rd

From what I can gather the only people that are dead are:

Higuma the Mountain Bandit (Killed By Sea King/Sea Serpent)
One of Higuma's Men (Shot in the head by the fat member of Shank's crew, whos name I forgot.)
Some Navy soldiers who captain Morgan himself killed.
One of Buggy's crew members. (Killed by Buggy himself)
Some of the Kuroneko Pirates (Killed by Kuro's Shakushi)
Nyaban Bros. (Killed by Zoro)
Capatin Kuro (He got his neck broke by Luffys Gomu Gomu no Bell, he's deader'n shit.)
Bellemere (Killed by Arlong)
Various Gyoujins (Killed by Zoro)
Wapol's men (Wapol ate them himself)

I'm sure theres more but I don't feel like listing them.

Capatin Kuro (He got his neck broke by Luffys Gomu Gomu no Bell, he's deader'n shit.)

Going by the anime, no. You see him later after Luffy gets his bounty.

But that is going by the anime.

Ivotas

Originally posted by Shinagamithe3rd@May 29 2005, 11:04 PM
Wapol's men (Wapol ate them himself)

Well if youÂ´re refering to Chess and Kuromarimo then nope, he didnÂ´t kill them, he just transformed them into a new being.

I'm sure theres more but I don't feel like listing them.
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Yep thereÂ´s more. If you go by the manga then the marine officer who reported to Lt. Fullbody that Gin was gone is dead (in the anime they let him live, how pathetic but I still try to think of it as a glitch).
Other then that Kriegs men who got shot by him for not agreeing with his aim to return to the Grand Line.
The piggy Pirates at Nanohana

And some more I canÂ´t think of right now.

Zephos

Roshio the executioner. VERY dead.

Akira

Roshio's is clearly dead, I agree. Who else…. Alot of shandorians from Ener's assult...Yama, and more people who I don't feel like listing

And what about Mr.5?? goddamit i though to myself: At least, someone is really dead in this story, but he's alive!!! He got cut by Zoro with his swords ON FLAMES!!!! (disapointed but that was a really cool "hit")