They wish for Piccolo to revive and wished him to earth. Guru dies before the 3rd wish. Popo uses the now revived earth balls to wish back everyone killed by Frieza and friendd. 3rd wish from the namekian was to take everyone to earth.
Dragonball Discussion
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I think its pretty ridiculous that someone on the power level of black can't wipe out the remains of the resistance when Majin Buu was able to kill all the humans on earth in 5 minutes.
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Why do the translators keep using "human" when according to some they actually mean mortals?
Because they don't mean that? The DB-series' usage of the word "human" has always been rather vague, but it seems to imply like, "Humanoid, intelligent species who are not deities". Note how in the latest episode, Black was talking about what an eyesore the ruined city was, and how once he was done the Earth would be restored to his vision of an ideal world… Which I presume means a world without modern society.
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Buu used the genocide beam, and was bored, black is enjoying himself.
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@Vegard:
Because they don't mean that? The DB-series' usage of the word "human" has always been rather vague, but it seems to imply like, "Humanoid, intelligent species who are not deities". Note how in the latest episode, Black was talking about what an eyesore the ruined city was, and how once he was done the Earth would be restored to his vision of an ideal world… Which I presume means a world without modern society.
Thank you .
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Power levels are crap by the episode was fantastic
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So, Zamasu is just gonna wish for his own personal evil goku?
Episode was entertaining for sure.
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Nope I bet he will wish for being immortal are my thoughts.
I think the only way to beat Zamasu is to beat Black… If they are rally a pair meining God of Destruction and Kaioshin we have elarnt that the only way is to kill one of them and the other is gone as well.
If not I bet Zeno-sama will get involved
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Nope I bet he will wish for being immortal are my thoughts.
I think the only way to beat Zamasu is to beat Black… If they are rally a pair meining God of Destruction and Kaioshin we have elarnt that the only way is to kill one of them and the other is gone as well.
If not I bet Zeno-sama will get involved
I was just kidding :P Seems to be the path they are going yeah.
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Power levels are crap by the episode was fantastic
I don't know, I think it's okay.
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We don't know how strong Zamasu actually is, just that he is immortal, and in the past he "lost" to ss1 or 2 goku? (I have no idea)
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Trunks was fighting Zamasu most of the time.
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He surprised Black, and blocked an attack once.
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Goku was fighting Black Goku most of the time, and on the losing end.
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Zamasu exploited his immortality and the both were eventually brought down.
Edit: I only had a problem with the tear gas scene.
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Zamasu gathered the dragon balls and wished for immortal body so he can destroy all human right?
why not wish for all human to be destroyed and be done with it?
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I don't know, I think it's okay.- We don't know how strong Zamasu actually is, just that he is immortal, and in the past he "lost" to ss1 or 2 goku? (I have no idea)- Trunks was fighting Zamasu most of the time.- He surprised Black, and blocked an attack once.- Goku was fighting Black Goku most of the time, and on the losing end.- Zamasu exploited his immortality and the both were eventually brought down.Edit: I only had a problem with the tear gas scene.
The rope is no different to some plot devices as ropes in One Piece
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Shida is GOAT.
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Zamasu gathered the dragon balls and wished for immortal body so he can destroy all human right?
why not wish for all human to be destroyed and be done with it?
Maybe he feels he has to punish them personally or some crap + some ulterior motive for which he needs extraordinary powers after he's done with killing them
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Zamasu gathered the dragon balls and wished for immortal body so he can destroy all human right?
why not wish for all human to be destroyed and be done with it?
We know Whis will turn back time when Beerus goes too far, instantly wiping out all humanoid life in a universe seems like something that would instantly garner the attention of the God of All, especially since it was kaishion that did it,and they're not supposed to do that kind of thing.
What Zamasu is doing now would seem like something God of All would come down and shut down if he knew.
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So Zamasu becomes the second character in all of Dragonball to attain immortality.
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Zamasu gathered the dragon balls and wished for immortal body so he can destroy all human right?
why not wish for all human to be destroyed and be done with it?
I believe for the same reason the DragonBalls couldn't be used to kill Vegeta & Nappa back during the Saiyan arc. Using the DragonBalls to outright kill someone is against the rules.
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The latest episode was awesome. Finally we got some really good fighting scenes. I'm still not OK with the animation overall, but if we get fighting scenes like this I don't care. This was awesome and it truly felt like Dragon Ball. I'm also loving the story, as both Zamasu en Black are scary enemies. I actually hope that Zeno and some other really powerful gods are not going to interfere. I would like to see Beerus join in this time, but let Beerus be thr only one. I'd rather have characters like Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin become useful in their own way. Just like Yajirobe was useful in the last episode, that was great. I liked the fact that he seemed to have survived the android attack in the last episode, but actually making him useful was really cool. It just shows he still considers Goku his friend.
I can't wait to see what's coming next!
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We know Whis will turn back time when Beerus goes too far, instantly wiping out all humanoid life in a universe seems like something that would instantly garner the attention of the God of All, especially since it was kaishion that did it,and they're not supposed to do that kind of thing.
What Zamasu is doing now would seem like something God of All would come down and shut down if he knew.
But turning back in time is useless vs an Immortal, I can see them imply not even Zeno can undo Zamasus immortality because Super Shenron is stronger than him.
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I believe for the same reason the DragonBalls couldn't be used to kill Vegeta & Nappa back during the Saiyan arc. Using the DragonBalls to outright kill someone is against the rules.
The Dragon from the Super Dragon Balls can grant _any_wish. Beerus stated he could wish for him to destroy an entire universe, so I think one planet would be well within his powers.
Also: I thought it was stated that the anime is not really referincing humans, but more 'mortals'. I think Zamasu wants to destory mortals he deems unworthy himself, for which he needs an immortal body.
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I believe for the same reason the DragonBalls couldn't be used to kill Vegeta & Nappa back during the Saiyan arc. Using the DragonBalls to outright kill someone is against the rules.
It's not that wishing to kill someone is against the rules, it's that Shelong can't kill anyone whose power exceeds the strength of the Dragon Balls' creator. So since Nappa and Vegeta were stronger than Kami it was a no-go.
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It's not that wishing to kill someone is against the rules, it's that Shelong can't kill anyone whose power exceeds the strength of the Dragon Balls' creator. So since Nappa and Vegeta were stronger than Kami it was a no-go.
Of course, they could have just wished that their ships would be damaged or crash into a star or something along those lines.
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Of course, they could have just wished that their ships would be damaged or crash into a star or something along those lines.
The ships also had power with strength that exceeds the strength of Kami, evidently.
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I'm actually thinking Black is the God of Destruction that pairs with Zamasu. They probably just have a better relation than Beerus & Kaioshin. (Maybe Zamasu just created his own God of Destruction and that is why he looks like Goku?)
It kind of makes sense because we were recently explained that if Kaioshin dies, Beerus dies too. Because they share the same fate for some reason (I assume it works both ways). Now if Zamasu is immortal, the only way to kill him is to kill his God of Destruction. Which would be Black.
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If Zamasu got interested in Goku from their sparring match, how could future Zamasu know about him? Goku would have been long dead.
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If Zamasu got interested in Goku from their sparring match, how could future Zamasu know about him? Goku would have been long dead.
Because future Zamasu is the Zamasu who fought Goku who used the time ring to travel into the future.
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If Zamasu got interested in Goku from their sparring match, how could future Zamasu know about him? Goku would have been long dead.
Because future Zamasu is that Zamasu
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Future Zamasu has already attained immortality and presumably killed Gowasu to get the time rings, while present Zamasu is still plotting to do so. What am I missing here?
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Zamas got obsessed with Goku because of that sparring match and created Black as a consecuence, but Goku went to see him in the first place because Black was destroying shit in the future… isn't this a causal loop?
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Yes .
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i'm guessing immortality is so important to Zamasu because he wants humanity to be gone forever. So he would have to watch over the universe for eternity to prevent them from evoling anywhere, like those ogre types him and his master visited.
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Chapter 16 translated by Herms.
Looks like Trunks trained with Kaioshin for years and thats why he got to become so strong.
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So have they just forgotten that there used to be more than one Kaioshin in the main universe?
We only saw one in Champa's universe, Gomasu and Zamasu seem to be it for their universe, and the whole thing about the God of Destruction dying if their Kaioshin counterpart dies basically says that there's only one active Kaioshin at a time.
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There were the 4 directions kaioshin, and the greater one. We can asume that every other kaioshin not shown was killed by a bubblegum demon.
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IIRC one or two of them were absorbed by Buu. Does that count as a "kill"? we saw it was possible to rescue someone from that.
We could say that they were killed in the present timeline when Buu was obliterated, but in the future Buu is now just trapped inside his egg forever…
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IIRC one or two of them were absorbed by Buu. Does that count as a "kill"? we saw it was possible to rescue someone from that.
We could say that they were killed in the present timeline when Buu was obliterated, but in the future Buu is now just trapped inside his egg forever…
They could only find fresh absorbs. We have strong indications that they were digested.
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Guys can you fill me in? What is the relation of anime and the manga? I heard anime is ahead… A little heads up, please.
Plus, do i need to watch the movie after Beerus was introduced. I think it's just a strong version of Freeza getting defeated by G&V.
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Dragon Ball Super airing right no in Portugal TV ;)
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@Myu:
Guys can you fill me in? What is the relation of anime and the manga? I heard anime is ahead… A little heads up, please.
Plus, do i need to watch the movie after Beerus was introduced. I think it's just a strong version of Freeza getting defeated by G&V.
The anime is ahead, which I believe is the most 'canon' so to speak. The manga differs a little bit on some points, but not too much. You don't have to watch the movies, as both are part of the anime. Just watch the anime. And read the manga I guess.
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The anime is ahead, which I believe is the most 'canon' so to speak. The manga differs a little bit on some points, but not too much. You don't have to watch the movies, as both are part of the anime. Just watch the anime. And read the manga I guess.
16 chars of thanks!
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The whole question make me think about the God of Destruction of 10th Universe, who would be alive in both present and future, due to Gowasu and Zamasu's respective existence. I hope they'll make an apparition soon.
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Which Kaioshin that God Of Destruction fates lies with? Is 4 directions has to be dead at the exact giving moment or only the one Buu absorbed in our DB Universe?
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@Myu:
Which Kaioshin that God Of Destruction fates lies with? Is 4 directions has to be dead at the exact giving moment or only the one Buu absorbed in our DB Universe?
This is the idea I have after reading chapter 16 of the manga.
! Beerus seems to be linked to Old Kaioh Shin. After Dabra petrified and destroyed the Z-Sword, it dissapeared with a flash. And probably that's the reason why Beerus sealed the old Kai instead of killing him
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But Beerus died despite the Old Kai staying sealed in the alternative future. So I guess he is linked only with the new ones and dies if all of them die.
However, what actually does it mean when a god of his calibre dies, anyway? You'd think he should be important enough to retain his body in the afterlife.
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Beerus looked like a legit badass in the last episode.
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@Bartholemew:
But Beerus died despite the Old Kai staying sealed in the alternative future. So I guess he is linked only with the new ones and dies if all of them die.
However, what actually does it mean when a god of his calibre dies, anyway? You'd think he should be important enough to retain his body in the afterlife.
Old Kai was probably killed when the Z Sword was petrified and destroyed.