Dragon Ball fusion is going all out… A fusion with Beerus and Whis and Cell/Frieza
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And here the Green Kai from the intro… His name seems to be Zamasu
Dragon Ball fusion is going all out… A fusion with Beerus and Whis and Cell/Frieza
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClOZonrVYAEATQo.jpg
And here the Green Kai from the intro… His name seems to be Zamasu
Ginyu+Saiyaman=Win.
What time do the episodes come out in Japan versus them being subbed?
Cause the next episode is supposed to be on the 19th, yet when I go on other sites I see people talk about it like as if they've seen another episode than me.
What time do the episodes come out in Japan versus them being subbed?
Cause the next episode is supposed to be on the 19th, yet when I go on other sites I see people talk about it like as if they've seen another episode than me.
I know they came out 30 minutes before One Piece that it is…8:00 EST on Saturdays, I guess.
If anyone wants to look at the useless super manga
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1705320
And seriously what the fuck is this shit. Goku going read super saiyan god just to turn SSJSS again?
Cancel this shit
Cell/Frieza
Which is pretty much pointless seeing how much of Fourth-Form Freeza is in Perfect Cell's design already.
If they mixed and matched early form Freezas with Imperfect Cell, that'd be something.
For those who speak or can read in spanish, the episode has been subbed and is on Youtube.
black/evil goku is just going to be showing ssgod2 white hair the omni king will show off by beating him once he beats goku/vegeta and beerus. i hope they train to get this form before the new tournament starts and maybe this way future trunks can join the tournament as well.
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@DIO:
! best guess is she will be revived with Dragonballs at some point since the Namek & Super Dragonballs still exist in Future Trunks Timeline or maybe trunks will do some thing Heroic and OmniKing will be like "i Will Revive Your Mom & Girlfriend since your timeline is already crappy enough where you eat Dog & Cat Food"
future trunks will most likely have to join the tournament to get that reward and be on the winning side.
maybe evil goku just came to earth before he could go to namek to revive everyone and after this he will finally go there and revive them all but it seems the omni king only cares because beerus will be defeated by him.
This episode is love… The power scaling in now fucked up completely but at least Black is awesome.
But why does he only have one earring? Who has the other... Zamasu is shown with 2. So there maybe is someone else with just one Demigra looking earring... Maybe to fuse with Black later on
English sub is already out as well
This episode is love… The power scaling in now fucked up completely but at least Black is awesome.
But why does he only have one earring? Who has the other... Zamasu is shown with 2. So there maybe is someone else with just one Demigra looking earring... Maybe to fuse with Black later on
English sub is already out as well
he most likely has the other earring he went to future trunks earth to fuse with the goku from trunks universe this goku is from universe 6 so either he goes back in time or future trunks brings them into the future where he beat goku and trys to fuse with him beerus gets in the way then gets defeated then the omni king makes evil goku look like a fly and most likely one shots him lol.
hoping that evil goku has ssgod2 as well with white hair.
he might also be the king of the saiyan world in universe 6 and might not have a transformation.
@sanji''s_dad:
he most likely has the other earring he went to future trunks earth to fuse with the goku from trunks universe this goku is from universe 6 so either he goes back in time or future trunks brings them into the future where he beat goku and trys to fuse with him beerus gets in the way then gets defeated then the omni king makes evil goku look like a fly and most likely one shots him lol.
hoping that evil goku has ssgod2 as well with white hair.
he might also be the king of the saiyan world in universe 6 and might not have a transformation.
Maybe… Really hyped for it. But why has he to hide it and not put in on his ear as well
Btw... This scene
Maybe… Really hyped for it. But why has he to hide it and not put in on his ear as well
Btw... This scene
Well it actually gives him a reason to come to earth in the first place plus even your avatar of him does not show the second earring even though it does not show his full second ear that is what i am going with.
@sanji''s_dad:
Well it actually gives him a reason to come to earth in the first place plus even your avatar of him does not show the second earring even though it does not show his full second ear that is what i am going with.
I don't understand you… He has just one...
Who on earth whould have this green Demigra looking 2nd earring?
And if he has the 2nd somewhere in the pocket it is strange that he doesn't simply put his ear
I don't understand you… He has just one...
Who on earth whould have this green Demigra looking 2nd earring?
And if he has the 2nd somewhere in the pocket it is strange that he doesn't simply put his ear
I was saying that i can only see one earring so i don't think evil goku is fused yet but that he is looking for someone to fuse with so he has the 2nd earring with him and is looking for good goku to fuse with but he is dead in this time line so it's like cell from future trunks time line he will either go back in time or future trunks will bring them to his time line where he will try to fuse with good goku after beating him then beerus stops it and gets beaten but then omni king saves them all.
Today's episode was good
It's pretty obvious the main reason the Pilaf Gang is around for this Arc is because of Mai
I did like Black's attacks:
The Purple & Black Kamehameha
The Yellow & Black Energy Ball
The spread shot
Plus the Black Evil Aura is cool
! >! I feel next week's episode will just consist of Future Trunks explaining the situation, the group's reaction, trunks asking Goku for a sparring match, Black using that ring from the preview to locate trunks and tear a portal to the past, Black Goku Arrives where trunks & Goku are, conclude with SSJ power up from Goku and a stare down towards Black Goku
Calling it. The Earring is part of some kind of reverse Potara. There's a good "Goku White" from whatever universe/Timeline he's from somewhere.
Black:
"Why did that Guy's Ki disappear from this world?"
"But I'll find you for sure."
"Who the hell do you think I am?"
Maybe it's the voice acting, and familiar face, and they aren't the same,or the translation. But so far Black Goku's personality is exactly what I'd expect from a bad version of Goku.
Black is even better as Majin Vegeta
Wasn´t Goku dead in future Trunks timeline?
So is this black Goku just in another universe?
@Don:
Wasn´t Goku dead in future Trunks timeline?
So is this black Goku just in another universe?
Or he is something else…
What time do the episodes come out in Japan versus them being subbed?
Cause the next episode is supposed to be on the 19th, yet when I go on other sites I see people talk about it like as if they've seen another episode than me.
They get subbed pretty quick, they're up a few hours after airing.
Remember time zones are different, Japan is basically a day ahead. The 19th there IS the 18th here.
Black Goku is even more cool as Majin Vegeta
Liking this arc thus far. I'm actually intrigued about Black'screen identity.
Finally a Super story line that's actually interesting.
Out of curiosity,is it possible to potara fuse with a dead body?
If Goku's body was somehow preserved,Black could've fused with it to gain them hax saiyan genes while remaining in full control as Goku's soul is in the otherworld.
I just wanted to lay out a different theory,because why not.
Out of curiosity,is it possible to potara fuse with a dead body?
If Goku's body was somehow preserved,Black could've fused with it to gain them hax saiyan genes while remaining in full control as Goku's soul is in the otherworld.
I just wanted to lay out a different theory,because why not.
It's just a theory for now since we have not seen someone fuse with a dead body before but one earring means that he should not be fused yet anyways.
seems like he is just looking for good goku to fuse with but he is dead in this time line so either he goes back in time or future trunks bring them to the future still lazy writing since it's like when cell had to go back in time to fuse with the androids that were dead the only difference would be if they went into trunks timeline but still nothing to do there except fight black goku and for good goku to teleport to namek and revive everyone back with dragonballs.
beerus will get in the way if goku does not fuse with vegeta i can see beerus losing and the omni king having to save everyone since black goku most likely has ssgod2 with white hair
For some reason I see Black Goku like Garou from One Punch Man, in the sense that they keep learning/evolving after fighting countless of opponents.
I dont know why there are some people who believe Black Goku is Goten, if its Goten then it will be Obito all over again.
I liked episode 47. Really exciting set up! I don't understand why they made Trunk's hair blue though…nor why no one seems to be surprised by it.
Anywho, saw episode 48 of Super just now. It was bullshit in my opinion because nothing happened in the whole episode! It was just lots of nothing really. Only thing achieved? Trunks is in modern day now, and Kid Trunks thinks he has an illegitimate brother. That's it. This is bullshit.
(Yes I'm aware all the episodes of Super were like this, but I'd hoped they'd learned their lesson by now. This is why I watched episode 1..and then quit the series and didn't come back until a week ago, and only watched the Universe 6 Saga, and even then...I watched some episodes and skimmed some episodes because the pacing was too slow at parts.)
My god brother's theory is that Black Goku is a fusion of Goku and Gohan with demon earrings. (Like they have in Xenoverse, according to him. I never got passed Fat Buu midget army battle in that game so eh..I wouldn't know.). He points out that Black Goku is a lot skinnier than regular Goku, and the only Saiyan like that is Gohan. The fact he refers to humans and Saiyans in the third person though makes me doubt that though.
I liked episode 47. Really exciting set up! I don't understand why they made Trunk's hair blue though…nor why no one seems to be surprised by it.
Anywho, saw episode 48 of Super just now. It was bullshit in my opinion because nothing happened in the whole episode! It was just lots of nothing really. Only thing achieved? Trunks is in modern day now, and Kid Trunks thinks he has an illegitimate brother. That's it. This is bullshit.
(Yes I'm aware all the episodes of Super were like this, but I'd hoped they'd learned their lesson by now. This is why I watched episode 1..and then quit the series and didn't come back until a week ago, and only watched the Universe 6 Saga, and even then...I watched some episodes and skimmed some episodes because the pacing was too slow at parts.)
My god brother's theory is that Black Goku is a fusion of Goku and Gohan with demon earrings. (Like they have in Xenoverse, according to him. I never got passed Fat Buu midget army battle in that game so eh..I wouldn't know.). He points out that Black Goku is a lot skinnier than regular Goku, and the only Saiyan like that is Gohan. The fact he refers to humans and Saiyans in the third person though makes me doubt that though.
people have said that he had blue hair in the manga and that the anime used the wrong hair color.
Toriyama and toei simply forgot what his hair color was, nothing new. :ninja:
Yeah, I just assume people like Super now. Because the biggest complaint seems to be a f***ing hair color!
Yeah, I just assume people like Super now. Because the biggest complaint seems to be a f***ing hair color!
I like ssgod since ss4 required a tail so trunks,goten,pan,ect were just as weak as the humans in story since they could not get stronger than ss3.
hopefully future trunks gets ssgod and joins the tournament as monaka's replacement and gohan can replace the retarded buu as well evil goku will most likely be the first to use ssgod2 with white hair as well.
@Sanji's Dad
Future Trunks will Probably just get Either SSJ2 and Master it or SSJ3 if he gets a new SSJ Form
I feel Toriyama is going to keep SSJ Blue exclusive for Goku & Vegeta Considering the only way Future Trunks to speed grind to SSJ Blue would be a Hardcore Crash Course in Whis's staff or the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Vegeta or Whis Since Dende did improve the time chamber beyond its original 2 day limit
Cause if Future Trunks unexplainable gets SSJ Blue with barely any training… That's bull crap considering SSJ Blue is acquired through Calm Mind God level Training and Future Trunks is a really really angry person atthis moment...
@DIO:
@Sanji's Dad
Future Trunks will Probably just get Either SSJ2 and Master it or SSJ3 if he gets a new SSJ Form
I feel Toriyama is going to keep SSJ Blue exclusive for Goku & Vegeta Considering the only way Future Trunks to speed grind to SSJ Blue would be a Hardcore Crash Course in Whis's staff or the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Vegeta or Whis Since Dende did improve the time chamber beyond its original 2 day limit
Cause if Future Trunks unexplainable gets SSJ Blue with barely any training… That's bull crap considering SSJ Blue is acquired through Calm Mind God level Training and Future Trunks is a really really angry person atthis moment...
Vegeta could pulled if off.
I mean the reason I can see Mirai Trunks being part of the Main Cast is because Toei would want to make a Monster Trio in DBS.
Fun fact that Trunks dub voice is the same as Sanji..
if its Goten then it will be Obito all over again.
If it's Future Goten, then he was born quite a bit earlier than in the current timeline since that Goku died six months before the Androids arrived.
I liked episode 47. Really exciting set up! I don't understand why they made Trunk's hair blue though…nor why no one seems to be surprised by it.
Because Bulma's hair is purple in the manga, but recently Toriyama switched to a more middleground between that and the anime with a blue color, and that carries over to Trunks and the anime is just going from what Toriyama did.
Also to help make it easier to tell the difference between the two different Trunk's running around, even though the age difference should make it super obvious.
Anywho, saw episode 48 of Super just now. It was bullshit in my opinion because nothing happened in the whole episode! It was just lots of nothing really. Only thing achieved? Trunks is in modern day now, and Kid Trunks thinks he has an illegitimate brother. That's it. This is bullshit.
Have you never seen an episode of Dragonball or Dragonball Z before this, then?
If it's Future Goten, then he was born quite a bit earlier than in the current timeline since that Goku died six months before the Androids arrived.
Black is probably from a different timeline and maybe a different Universe, that ring is the reason he reached the Mirai Trunks timeline.., we should get more details in the upcoming episode.
@sanji''s_dad:
people have said that he had blue hair in the manga and that the anime used the wrong hair color.
but kid Trunks doesn't. It's inconsistent in that case.
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Because Bulma's hair is purple in the manga, but recently Toriyama switched to a more middleground between that and the anime with a blue color, and that carries over to Trunks and the anime is just going from what Toriyama did.
Also to help make it easier to tell the difference between the two different Trunk's running around, even though the age difference should make it super obvious.
Still sounds inconsistent.
Have you never seen an episode of Dragonball or Dragonball Z before this, then?
I have actually…those were atrociously paced for a reason though...to keep from catching up to the manga. That's why I mostly read the Dragonball Manga and only watched random episodes of the anime. Because the pacing was nearly unbearable. Dragonball Super has no excuse of that though, as they are already way passed the manga anyways. Besides, they both get ideas directly from Toriyama himself and do thier own thing with it. Super doesn't need to repeat the mistakes of the past, and considering the awful reputation the series has been getting. People who hated GT are saying they liked GT more. (I personally liked GT but still...) Super needs to redeem itself with this new arc and so far I'm not sure it is.
If I'd written that episode, it would start the same as they did...but once Future Trunks arrived at Capsule Corp, they would given him a senzu . He'd wake up, they'd get Goku and Vegeta, he would then explain what happened to him. He'd have some sort of additional flashback about Mai for padding...then he'd begin to train in the hyerbolic time chamber or some such to show he wants to get stronger...show a few seconds of that, and end on some sort of cliffhanger. Other than that, shorter versions of everything that was already in the episode. Bam. Alot more happened and the story still didn't advance straight to anything big yet.
next chapter titles revealed
50. Goku vs Black
51. Mai's wish that transcends time
52. Gohan and Future Trunks
53. Black’s identity revealed
Yeah looks like Gohan is gonna be relevant again.
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Yeah looks like Gohan is gonna be relevant again.
The question is how relevant?
Relevant enough to Get a power up or just be Future Trunks's Punching Bag for Future Trunks to get a power up
@DIO:
The question is how relevant?
Relevant enough to Get a power up or just be Future Trunks's Punching Bag for Future Trunks to get a power up
Lol the latter would be so awful.
I hope the omni king actually fights black goku instead of just erasing him it would be better if he was a evil goku from one of the universes omni king erased instead of just being from universe 6 maybe a evil kai took over this goku's body as well
the z fighters and beerus are going to get their asses kicked and will be saved by omni king and i am still hoping future trunks hangs around for some training then he can join the tournament as well.
future trunks vs cabba in the next tournament sounds fair.
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ha kind of funny you just bring up Dragonball stuff, yet name this Dragonball Z discussion
But my favorite stuff in all of DB/DBZ/GT is the tournament sagas in Dragonball, also the Goku vs. cell fight was damn awesome too.
It would be stupid having more than one thread when it's the same story this is not a dragonball forum having one thread for it's enough the manga version is not called dragonballz either that is only the anime version lol.
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but kid Trunks doesn't. It's inconsistent in that case.
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Still sounds inconsistent.
I have actually...those were atrociously paced for a reason though...to keep from catching up to the manga. That's why I mostly read the Dragonball Manga and only watched random episodes of the anime. Because the pacing was nearly unbearable. Dragonball Super has no excuse of that though, as they are already way passed the manga anyways. Besides, they both get ideas directly from Toriyama himself and do thier own thing with it. Super doesn't need to repeat the mistakes of the past, and considering the awful reputation the series has been getting. People who hated GT are saying they liked GT more. (I personally liked GT but still...) Super needs to redeem itself with this new arc and so far I'm not sure it is.
If I'd written that episode, it would start the same as they did...but once Future Trunks arrived at Capsule Corp, they would given him a senzu . He'd wake up, they'd get Goku and Vegeta, he would then explain what happened to him. He'd have some sort of additional flashback about Mai for padding...then he'd begin to train in the hyerbolic time chamber or some such to show he wants to get stronger...show a few seconds of that, and end on some sort of cliffhanger. Other than that, shorter versions of everything that was already in the episode. Bam. Alot more happened and the story still didn't advance straight to anything big yet.
dragonball gt was bad no super saiyan pan but yet she was fighting like a super saiyan then later on at the end at gt 100 years later little goku and vegeta can go super saiyan so it was just lazy not giving it to her if they were going to have her fightings lol.
Uub sucked as well goku wasted time training him and buu even merged with him and he did nothing making him a waste of screen time better off not even having him as a character if he does nothing.
then you have goku being able to regrow his tail by just having it pulled out but when bulma turned vegeta in big monkey form vegeta did not have his tail regrow and he had to keep using the machine to go ss4 then since you need a tail for ss4 trunks/goten and gohan are unable to go ss4 even if they had trained hard to do so!
@sanji''s_dad:
Uub sucked as well goku wasted time training him and buu even merged with him and he did nothing making him a waste of screen time better off not even having him as a character if he does nothing.
Uub sucking was the result of bad writing the same thing with Trunks and Goten.
@sanji''s_dad:
I hope the omni king actually fights black goku instead of just erasing him it would be better if he was a evil goku from one of the universes omni king erased instead of just being from universe 6 maybe a evil kai took over this goku's body as well
the z fighters and beerus are going to get their asses kicked and will be saved by omni king and i am still hoping future trunks hangs around for some training then he can join the tournament as well.
Beerus stated that the Omni King doesn't fight.
@sanji''s_dad:
I hope the omni king actually fights black goku instead of just erasing him it would be better if he was a evil goku from one of the universes omni king erased instead of just being from universe 6 maybe a evil kai took over this goku's body as well
the z fighters and beerus are going to get their asses kicked and will be saved by omni king and i am still hoping future trunks hangs around for some training then he can join the tournament as well.
future trunks vs cabba in the next tournament sounds fair.
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It would be stupid having more than one thread when it's the same story this is not a dragonball forum having one thread for it's enough the manga version is not called dragonballz either that is only the anime version lol.
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dragonball gt was bad no super saiyan pan but yet she was fighting like a super saiyan then later on at the end at gt 100 years later little goku and vegeta can go super saiyan so it was just lazy not giving it to her if they were going to have her fightings lol.
Uub sucked as well goku wasted time training him and buu even merged with him and he did nothing making him a waste of screen time better off not even having him as a character if he does nothing.
then you have goku being able to regrow his tail by just having it pulled out but when bulma turned vegeta in big monkey form vegeta did not have his tail regrow and he had to keep using the machine to go ss4 then since you need a tail for ss4 trunks/goten and gohan are unable to go ss4 even if they had trained hard to do so!
I never said GT was perfect. I acknowledge it's flaws and that overall, it wasn't a very good series. I just liked it anyways. Down to personal preference for me really. The reason people are saying GT was better, is because of a few things.
1. Baby. He tied to the Tuffles. The people who were slaughtered when the Saiyans took over planet Tuffle and it became Planet Vegeta, put themselves into Baby. Regardless of if he was a well-liked viliian, he tied to the Saiyans a lot more than someone like Beerus.
2. The Shadow Dragons saga. It yet again, contributed to the lore and mythology of Dragonball by showing a new aspect- a punishment for overusing the Dragonballs. Something that was long overdue, as they'd become a plot device that was greatly overused in Dragonball, and of all things..GT directly addressed that fact. I admit though, the only Shadow Dragons that I personally liked were Oceanus, Nova and Syn. But the concept itself at least, was a clever idea that just didn't get executed as well as we would've liked. Now contrast that with the Ressurection of Freeza or hell, even Frost being in the Universe 6 Arc. Definitely seems like that while yes, people love Freeza…bringing him back wasn't really adding anything big or new to the overall world. The Shadow Dragons definitely did.
and just as a side note...I personally loved Super 17. Yes, I admit the way they defeated him felt like a cop out...but did you ever notice how quickly Android 17 got overshadowed by Cell? This felt like he finally got the justice he deserved in being a proper villian in his own right..and in my opinion and extremely bad ass one at that. Yes I didn't like a lot of things about the exeution (The villians being brought back could've been much better, but to be fair..it wasn't that great in Fusion Reborn either. And the tickling torture and whatnot was lame too, I admit.) but in this case..I just personally felt that it was handled very well. Some could call this arguement hypocritical because I said Freeza didn't need to be brought back. First off..I want to say that I still loved him being brought back and enjoyed it. But think about it. He had his time in the limelight. Android 17 got overshadowed by Cell..hell, even when he fought Piccolo, there was the threat of Cell still looming in the background. This gave him some limelight, and even tied it into Baby. I also don't think it made as little sense as people think it did. It was simply a Machine Mutant that looked like 17...fusing with the real Android 17. That's it.
Everyone can also point to how awful the animation has been in some of the episodes of Super so far..and you can say that at least the ones in GT were consistent, even if not anywhere close to being as good as the best that Super has shown us. Because it also...was never as bad as the WORST Super has shown us. Not even close to as bad. And many of you here probably KNOW how bad Super's art and animation has gotten at times.
Either way..I wanna conclude with this. I'm not saying GT was better...but apparently, some people ARE saying that...and I'm just playing devils advocate here and showing their reasons for it..to show you why that could be.
As for me..I just hope that this Arc redeems itself soon. The slow pacing is killing me..but I LOVE that Future Trunks is back, and an Evil Goku is a pretty interesting concept. (Even if we've seen things like it before with Turles, etc.) So I definitely want this arc to be good.
Everyone can also point to how awful the animation has been in some of the episodes of Super so far..and you can say that at least the ones in GT were consistent, even if not anywhere close to being as good as the best that Super has shown us. Because it also…was never as bad as the WORST Super has shown us. Not even close to as bad. And many of you here probably KNOW how bad Super's art and animation has gotten at times.
Much like we're aware (or rather should given the selective amnesia of the fanbase) of how bad or derpy Z's animation and art got at times?
Meh, no matter what happens in Super, Grandpa "Piccoyo" will always make it superior to GT in my book.
I mean, I still want other awesome stuff to come out of Super and blow GT out of the water; I just can't gush about Grandpa Piccoyo hard enough.
Mirai Trunks solod the Buu Saga.
Future Trunks doesn't screw around, he gets shit done if he's powerful enough to do so.