So Bardock was responsible for his planet's destruction. That's good to know.
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Chilled was probably in his final form in this manga. I mean Freeza seriously had Goku on the ropes in his final form until Goku himself turned Super Saiyan. And yes I know Freeza wasn't at 100% of his full power, but I think that Chilled was just so caught off guard and cocky that he might not have felt the need and that was his downfall. Freeza was expecting Goku's transformation and that's probably why he was so careful with what he did (except for when he got cut with his own ki discs). And even Coola wasn't strong enough to beat Goku in Super Saiyan form.
But maybe I'm reading too much into this.
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so bardock was responsible for his planet's destruction. That's good to know.
USELESS-ASS PSYCHIC POWERS
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Also didn't you need to be incredibly powerful to use SS? The emotion was always a great part of the first time it's awakened but you needed to be powerful. First two chapters where good but this last one seemed like "OK lets rap this up".
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There's no telling how strong Bardock was after surviving his confrontation with Freeza. Seeing as how Vegeta went from about thirty thousand to two hundred fifty thousand from the beating Reacoom gave him, surviving the physical and mental shock of Freeza's Death Ball and traveling back and time might've had even more affect on his strength. Even before having his tail handed to him by Dodoria Bardock had a battle power of ten thousand, after all.
Alternatively, we can assume Ooishi was given limited storytelling place and churned out the story quickly so that V-JUMP could fulfill a contract. I wouldn't put it above them.
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Were Goten and Trunks really all that powerful when they became Super Saiyan?
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Yes, but him being sent to the past will completly change the future, as Bardock eventually dies in the past. Therefore he doesn't exist anymore in the future, so Goku won't be born.
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Nevermind, there probably were 2 Bardock because of that.Have you even read the first chapter of this mini ?? When Bardock is thought to be killed by Freeza, he is instead send to the past. Goku was already born when this happened so it won't affect the future at all.
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@Yuugi's:
There's no telling how strong Bardock was after surviving his confrontation with Freeza. Seeing as how Vegeta went from about thirty thousand to two hundred fifty thousand from the beating Reacoom gave him, surviving the physical and mental shock of Freeza's Death Ball and traveling back and time might've had even more affect on his strength. Even before having his tail handed to him by Dodoria Bardock had a battle power of ten thousand, after all.
Alternatively, we can assume Ooishi was given limited storytelling place and churned out the story quickly so that V-JUMP could fulfill a contract. I wouldn't put it above them.
Yes, but Vegeta's first major Zenkai was when he went from 18,000 to 23,000.
Doesn't matter, though. Even a Zenkai of 2,000 will make him stronger than 1st form Freeza as a SSJ.
@Dark-Abel, yes; I've realized my mistake already.
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SSJ3 Goku looks like some Mythical Norse God. Or he's into heavy metal.
I think When Gohan took on Cell when he just turned SSJ2, there was nothing in the series before or since that was cooler than his slow walk.
Bardock was cool. It's a shame he wasn't given the chance to get to SSJ level. If they could make a one of series with him in the past with him finally achieving it, that'll be great.
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I heard the author is making a sequel called Multiverse.
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Die !
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No at Bardock.
Yes at you, before posting crap try to confirm what you've "heard" first or at least look at some older posts to see if it wasn't mentioned earlier (it's on the last page.
And no it's not the autor's sequel but just some fanmade stuff with DBTenkaichi 3 matchups and whatifs and some pretty crappy sidestories submitted by anyone who has a notion of drawing.
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Sorry for the offtopic, guys, but I have serious trouble. I'm looking for a torrent with all DragonBall Z Kai episodes with japanese audio and in HD quality (prefered 1080p but it can be 720p). There was over 90 episodes if I recall correctly and I can't find a single working torrent with all of them, so that's why I need help. Thanks in advance and sorry about disturbing your talk about power levels…
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@Aru:
Sorry for the offtopic, guys, but I have serious trouble. I'm looking for a torrent with all DragonBall Z Kai episodes with japanese audio and in HD quality (prefered 1080p but it can be 720p). There was over 90 episodes if I recall correctly and I can't find a single working torrent with all of them, so that's why I need help. Thanks in advance and sorry about disturbing your talk about power levels…
I'm currently in the works of finding Episode 98 of DragonBall Kai for download so I'll keep my eye open if I find anything. Nyaa torrents is where I get most of my anime.
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Anyways, here's the trailer for the last one (you may have seen it).
Wonder what I'm gonna collect after these… Well there is the Dragon Ball Z movies 1 - 5 coming November. Guess it wouldn't hurt to pick that up.
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Also, I had DragonBall Z: Raging Blast 2 for some time now for my PS3. It has a very complicated fighting system, but after you learn it nicely you really can create awesome fights. Imagine my surprise when I found a short HD OAV in the Movies section of the game! It's really nicely done, concentrates on this guy, who tried to extract all of his planets hatred to Saiyans, when they attacked it and killed everyone for Freeza. After some time he gathered all of the hatred and attacked Earth. It's around Android saga with Future Trunks etc. Doesn't look to bad (unlike my english) and it has this DragonBall feeling. Also, it's japanese dub with english subs, so really nice. Anyone knew about this before?
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@Aru:
Also, I had DragonBall Z: Raging Blast 2 for some time now for my PS3. It has a very complicated fighting system, but after you learn it nicely you really can create awesome fights. Imagine my surprise when I found a short HD OAV in the Movies section of the game! It's really nicely done, concentrates on this guy, who tried to extract all of his planets hatred to Saiyans, when they attacked it and killed everyone for Freeza. After some time he gathered all of the hatred and attacked Earth. It's around Android saga with Future Trunks etc. Doesn't look to bad (unlike my english) and it has this DragonBall feeling. Also, it's japanese dub with english subs, so really nice. Anyone knew about this before?
You mean "Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans"? it's nothing new, they just made a reboot for the game.
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I'm currently in the works of finding Episode 98 of DragonBall Kai for download so I'll keep my eye open if I find anything. Nyaa torrents is where I get most of my anime.
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Anyways, here's the trailer for the last one (you may have seen it).
Wonder what I'm gonna collect after these… Well there is the Dragon Ball Z movies 1 - 5 coming November. Guess it wouldn't hurt to pick that up.
If Funimation is not going back to re-dub the Buu saga with the correct dialogue, I could care less about the Dragon Boxes nor the remastered sets.
Next week the meteor destroys everything.
7 years later a boy staring at the sea.
Konohamaru's adventure begins.
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This may be the greatest video ever.
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@RobbyBevard:
This may be the greatest video ever.
Agreed, it's beyond epic, okkusenman while turning ssj equals fangasm
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I should probably feel ashamed that I recognized all but like three of those songs they used, but I don't give a damn.
1000% Sparking was the most obvious choice ever, but that shit caught me so off-guard. XD
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I recognized:
Okkusenman
I Can't Beat Airman
YATTA!
Little Busters
God Knows
Caramelldansen
At least three others I can't name, but recognize thanks to the Jojo version of the Nico Nico medlies. -
In the past, I've said Kid Boo was weaker than even the likes of Dai Booshin (Fat Boo). Now, I say Kid Boo is the THIRD strongest Majin Boo.
So it has been stated that Kaioshins don't work with Majin Boo. Infact, when Kid Boo absorbed a Kaioshin he got weaker. So this automatically makes South Booshin and Dai Booshin inferior to Kid Boo.
Now, Dai Booshin simply developed a second personality, which is the good Majin Boo. The original personality is now within him as Dai Booshin (Evil). When he was released from his own body, he took most of the powers Dai Booshin (Good) originally had. So really, the Z-Fighters and the Kaioshins were fighting Dai Booshin (Good) with the combined powers of Dai Booshin (Evil). Dai Booshin (Evil) may have not hits from Dai Booshin (Good), whereas Kid Boo actually did. That's because Kid Boo was TOYING. Proof is the fact that Goku stated he could have beaten Dai Booshin as a Super Saiyan 3, but didn't because he wanted the next generation to handle it. He also said "A stronger warrior will appear!" to keep Majin Boo excited. So he admitted he was capable of taking a the combined powers of Dai Booshin (Good) and Dai Booshin (Evil). Yet when fighting Kid Boo, he was barely even with him. In fact, Kid Boo could have also been possibly toying with him as well. So therefore Kid Buu > or = Super Saiyan 3 Goku > Dai Booshin (Good) + Dai Booshin (Evil).
Kid Boo is Majin Boo's base form with NO absorptions, Super Boo is Majin Boo WITH absorptions. When Dai Booshin (Evil) ate a chocolate turned Dai Booshin (Good), he got his own body back or the same type back. Dai Booshin (Good) is no longer needed in keeping his body, just his form due to the absorbed warriors via Dai Booshin (Good). Dai Booshin (Good) still works with Majin Boo (Evil), just as long as he has him absorbed and set up. Since Dai Booshin (Good) has two Kaioshin's inside of him, Super Boo is still weaker than Kid Boo. The reason why Goku was fearing Super Boo was because he was scared he would be capable of squashing him like a bug. He had no idea he would be larger again. If Super Boo and Gohan were truly stronger than Goku and Vegeta, then Goku and Vegeta would of held off Super Boo while they wait for Gohan to wake up. They're not pussies. Super Boo proves my point further when Goku tries to blast a hole in him, only for there to be no results and his reply being "That stung a bit."
Now Bootenks and Boohan are definitely stronger than Kid Boo. But Boocollo is still weaker than Kid Boo. Goku came to fuse with Gohan to take Bootenks, but when he became Boocollo, he was saying that Gohan no longer needs his help.
Power levels became irrelevant after the Namek arc, besides the Freeza's revenge bit at the beginning of the Android arc. Kid Boo's powers were masked. The whole time they were judging by appearance. They were laughing at his size. They thought that now that Majin Boo no longer has absorbed warriors, he would be weaker, right? Nope, they were wrong. Kid Boo was owning their asses especially Vegeta's. That muscular form of Majin Boo is NOT South Booshin as South Kaioshin is inside Dai Booshin (Good).
So I just
So I proved that Kid Boo is the THIRD strongest Majin Boo and the strongest NON Z-Fighter absorbed Boo. I also proved that it was never proven that a Super Saiyan 3 Goku is weaker than Gohan or a Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.
Just FYI, Akira Toriyama never said Gohan was the strongest non fused character. He also never wanted to end the Majin Boo arc with Gohan as the hero. Here's why, Majin Boo was created simply for the fact that Akira felt Gohan was unsuited for the role as the hero. All of that is either from a fake magazine, or fan made up bull shit.
A lot of credit goes to Princeofsaiyajins456 and Dragonballfights.
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Nice ahir, Ginjou. Although, how is he able to go bankai?
Please read this and learn it by heart till monday.
Buu is regarded as one of the more creative arcs since the birth of Gohan. So I don't really get where you'd be coming from.
I don't know if silverblade posted this here, but it belongs, very very interesting read about all the posible ending points of Dragon Ball.
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Nice theory but there's some things "wrong" with it. (After rereading some fights, I'm not so sure anymore based on different meanings sentences can have)
First and foremost, Goku was not at full power when fighting Kid Buu. In fact, he even told Vegeta to hold off Kid Buu while he powered up, however he underestimated the strain on his living body. He ran out of ki due to poor planning, but he heavily implied he could become much more powerful.
http://www.mangareader.net/105-3160-13/dragon-ball/chapter-511.html (these comics are flipped btw.. don't ask me why)
Also.. using Vegeta to compare Buu's strength is a bad call, since… he couldn't fight any of the Buu incarnations.
The Buu arc also implies that SSJ3 is far MORE than enough to beat Buu. Gotenks wasted too much time dicking around in that fight, before he could deliver the final blast the fusion wore off.
http://www.mangareader.net/105-3145-13/dragon-ball/chapter-496.html
Because of this, it's incredibly hard to measure Super Buu's strength in comparison to Kid Buu's since SSJ3 is enough to beat them.
The only con is SSJ3 has a time limit while Buu's Ki is limitless due to regeneration.
All that's for certain is Super Buu and Kid Buu > Fat Buu. Kid Buu may have been stronger than Super Buu, but there's not much evidence to prove either. However, he's definitely more dangerous.
OH and the son family is the biggest group of assholes.
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Here are the Boo's.
Boohan > Bootenks > Kid Boo > South Booshin > Boocollo > Super Boo > Dai Booshin (Evil) > Dai Booshin (Good)
Here are the heroes.
SS3 Goku > Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta (Majin)
Like I said, Goku only feared Super Boo for the fear of still being tiny. Vegeta said that Goku was the only one who could fight Kid Boo. If Gohan was truly stronger, then Vegeta would have gotten him from heaven.
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SS3 Goku > Gohan
Like I said, Goku only feared Super Boo for the fear of still being tiny. Vegeta said that Goku was the only one who could fight Kid Boo. If Gohan was truly stronger, then Vegeta would have gotten him from heaven.
how was vegeta gonna get him from heaven? he was watching goku's fight/fighting himself, plus there's no way of knowing that gohans soul was brought to the next life as a body, since there god died too. i have to disagree
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If Funimation is not going back to re-dub the Buu saga with the correct dialogue, I could care less about the Dragon Boxes nor the remastered sets.
It's not for dub fans anyway, so…
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There would be no point of re-dubbing the Majin Boo arc. FUNimation's goal was to release the Japanese version with English subtitles and the regular English dub that replaces Nathan Johnson/Bruce Faulconer with the Japanese music. It isn't just the Majin Boo arc with incorrect dialogue, it's the whole dub in general. Especially when they first started.
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Yeah I know the whole dub was incorrect with the dialogue, which is why I was disappointed when Toei cancelled Kai, probably the most professional dub DBZ has gotten in the US.
Next week the meteor destroys everything.
7 years later a boy staring at the sea.
Konohamaru's adventure begins.
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Yeah I know the whole dub was incorrect with the dialogue, which is why I was disappointed when Toei cancelled Kai, probably the most professional dub DBZ has gotten in the US.
True. I like the Kai dub a lot too, that's why I have the uncut parts from FUNimation. I have the Dragon Boxes for the Japanese dialogue.
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So I've noticed that the first Dragon Box is really expensive on Amazon, and everywhere else I look. Do you guys know anywhere else to get it for cheaper?
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The Dragon Box line is no longer in print so I wouldn't hold out hope of finding a cheaper price.
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I'm gonna start collecting the bricks again
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@Yuugi's:
The Dragon Box line is no longer in print so I wouldn't hold out hope of finding a cheaper price.
So they're only a limited edition type thing? That's kinda lame. Dragon Box 1 on Amazon is like $80.
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Bardock's got a much better voice now.
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The manga you all hate is back..
http://mangastream.com/read/dragon_ball_sd/67923711/1
Talk about abridging. Yeesh.
I think the problem here is he does this stuff WAY too fast. I get it's a tri monthly thing, but he doesn't even introduce who new characters are.
Like how would kids know that's Vegeta's son?
These chapters either need to be done correctly or not at all.
if you want to check out my game progress: http://soggybreadgm.tumblr.com/
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Ah, that anime special was really cool. I loved that idea of how it was Bardock that started the legend of the Super Saiyan by going into the past like that.
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The manga you all hate is back..
http://mangastream.com/read/dragon_ball_sd/67923711/1
Talk about abridging. Yeesh.
I think the problem here is he does this stuff WAY too fast. I get it's a tri monthly thing, but he doesn't even introduce who new characters are.
Like how would kids know that's Vegeta's son?
These chapters either need to be done correctly or not at all.
Yeah. I wish the author wouldn't be retelling stories. She did the Bardock special pretty good, so why not more things like that? Or funny chapters of Goku when he was a kid would be fine.
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I think the problem here is he does this stuff WAY too fast. I get it's a tri monthly thing, but he doesn't even introduce who new characters are.
Like how would kids know that's Vegeta's son?
These chapters either need to be done correctly or not at all.
I think its just assumed Dragonball is a massive cultural icon and everyone knows it already.
Its only in the chibi book as a token representative anyway.
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@RobbyBevard:
I think its just assumed Dragonball is a massive cultural icon and everyone knows it already.
Its only in the chibi book as a token representative anyway.
I thought this was a manga to introduce children to Dragonball without all of the gritty violence.
I still love the cell games one though.
Cell: "I'm gonna self destruct and-"
Goku: "QUICK Gohan! Let's blow him up before he reaches full power!"
Cell: "Wai- wha- No!"And the day was saved.
if you want to check out my game progress: http://soggybreadgm.tumblr.com/
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I thought this was a manga to introduce children to Dragonball without all of the gritty violence.
I still love the cell games one though.
Cell: "I'm gonna self destruct and-"
Goku: "QUICK Gohan! Let's blow him up before he reaches full power!"
Cell: "Wai- wha- No!"
And the day was saved.that was indeed hilarious
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I don't get the DBSD hate, it's supposed to be a joke manga.
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a new sd chapter
http://mangastream.com/read/dragon_ball_sd/19309336/1 -
Haha
This page:http://mangastream.com/read/dragon_ball_sd/19309336/6
Doesn't help that I read, "What's wrong Vegeta?" in Dub Nappa's voice.
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Is there any point… any point at all... to a near panel by panel recreation in short chibi form?
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