People seem to be forgetting that Shakky is an ex pirate as well. For all we know she could be near in power to Rayliegh himself. She is his wife after all and usually couples in shonen manga have a level of strength close to each other. Remember, when we first saw her she was man handling some beastly lookin' dude. To me she seems like the other legend.
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Chapter 501 "The World's Starting to Churn" Discussion
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Captain: Zkaiser
Status: Dejected.
Threat Level: Pink
Goal: Prove the Elemental Haki Theory
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The other legend is Shirohige.
Really, though, this can go in the chapter thread. Why post a separate thread on it?
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So are we all assuming Luffy's mom is some dumb whore, and Ace is only Luffy's half-brother being? As much as I see Dragon having this work to his advantage, if Ace is his kid, I don't know if he's going to completely just sit by. I definitely see him as involving himself in this.
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Are Luffy and Ace blood related? I thought they had different family names? Maybe I'm wrong though, I don't know how everything works in Japan. In any case it could be that they only treat each other like brothers, sort of like Franky treated his "family." -
Merged thread since it's referring to the current chapter.
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I'm pretty sure that if WB attacks the WG, he will probably get Ace out of prison but BB will then take his chance and finally kill him because he will be even more weakened after the fight.
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People seem to be forgetting that Shakky is an ex pirate as well. For all we know she could be near in power to Rayliegh himself. She is his wife after all and usually couples in shonen manga have a level of strength close to each other. Remember, when we first saw her she was man handling some beastly lookin' dude. To me she seems like the other legend.
Where the hell did you read that?
He has been missing for six month and "presumably spending the nights in some womens beds". And she still hasn't looked for him as far as we can tell. She didn't even seem to care. What married woman would act that way?
Imo they are either buisness partners or old friends.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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Well, it is clear now the "Big Incident" that the Ace vs. Blackbeard fight led to.
I wonder where the Straw Hats will fit into this entire mess of a situation.
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In chapter 498 on the last page she refers to him as "her guy." Calling somebody of the opposite sex your implies a relationship. Maybe they're not married, but they are a pair.
ΩMEGA PIRATES: ? Members
Captain: Zkaiser
Status: Dejected.
Threat Level: Pink
Goal: Prove the Elemental Haki Theory
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In chapter 498 on the last page she refers to him as "her guy." Calling somebody of the opposite sex your implies a relationship. Maybe they're not married, but they are a pair.
Refering to someone as "her man" could mean a relationship but it could also be much more platonic. Also considering the various different translations and the reliability of them, I wouldn't look too much into such small details like that
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I seriously doubt a romantical (or sexual) relationship between those two.
Think they are just "nakama" since the time as pirates or something.
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In chapter 498 on the last page she refers to him as "her guy." Calling somebody of the opposite sex your implies a relationship. Maybe they're not married, but they are a pair.
She seemed pretty relaxed at the thought that he's with another woman. If she'd have a relationship going on with him, she wouldn't be relaxed at that thought. Especially if he's been away for half a year. Women can cope with a lot of stuff, but not with that.
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Well they are probably as closed as Luffy and Nami are to each other.
His nen ability as a specialist, Emperor Time, allows him to utilize all the types of nen to 100% efficiency.
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I don't know… I still get the feeling that they may be more than friends.
They give me that vibe like the old couple in Kung-Fu Hustle. You know that tai-chi guy and the lion roar woman. he was lecherous and she was abusive but they still loved each other.ΩMEGA PIRATES: ? Members
Captain: Zkaiser
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Gangsters also call each otehr "my guy"
Huge Thanks to FrankyIsFeelingSupah for his help with everything
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Gangsters also call each otehr "my guy"
Are you referring to the word Aniki (or Bro in English)? It's not the same thing.
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I don't know… I still get the feeling that they may be more than friends.
They give me that vibe like the old couple in Kung-Fu Hustle. You know that tai-chi guy and the lion roar woman. he was lecherous and she was abusive but they still loved each other.… But she was still upset with him each and every time he did something lecherous iirc. :wassat:
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Have any of the strawhats seen the news about Ace yet, or just the people in grove 24?
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Just the people in Grove 24.
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I wonder if this will turn into a situation where everyone finds out about Ace but the Strawhats.
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I wonder how Luffy will react to the news. When he found out that his brother's life force was draining, he opted that Ace wouldn't want them to stop what they're doing to save him and continue on their voyage. But now the situation is more serious.
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I wonder if this will turn into a situation where everyone finds out about Ace but the Strawhats.
Luffy will find out eventually. If Ace dies, the biblicard will disintegrate.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Luffy will find out eventually. If Ace dies, the biblicard will disintegrate.
Not to rule that out, but don't you think that would seem a little anti-climactic?
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Not necessarily. Luffy could feel his hat getting hot, then check the biblicard, only to find it in ashes, and be utterly confused. Then next chapter, he figures it out and gets PISSED.
I could see it happening like that.
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Ace dying? No way, that's gonna happen, not in one piece.
Gorlak wants you for the army
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I think Luffy'll run into Garp at some point and Luffy'll find out from him. Now how much Garp tells Luffy might lead Luffy to either leave Ace alone or go after Ace.
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I just wonder if they'll have anyone in particular to carry out the execution. A WG firing squad while Ace is wearing seastone cuffs would be lame. Perhaps they are really trying to draw out Luffy? (just like Whitebeard)
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Ace dying? No way, that's gonna happen, not in one piece.
So tired of statements like these. People die in One Piece. Deal with it.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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After actually reading the translation and pics, I find it a shame Silvers didn't even get a word in this chapter. Some of the useless dialogue the Fishriders had should have been cut in half, Luffy shouldn't even have any dialogue unless he is fighting.
Well, supposedly war is about to start between Whitebeard and the Marines. Though I don't know what everyone is getting excited about. A lot of you guys act as if Oda is going to show this in the next couple of chapters or something. Believe me, Oda is not, this is just a heads up for 30 chapters down the road. We didn't even get to see what happen between Whitebeard and Shanks. We rarely see or hear what happens in the World of One Piece. This chapter finally gave us a little bit of info what's happening (hence the title). So expect us to end back up in the auction house for many more chapters.
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Garp watching his own grandson die? DOUBT IT. The public execution is there to lure the White Beard pirates, for sure theres gona be a war between marine HQ vs WB pirate. WB might lose btw if he did suffer damage from the battle with shanks.
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Garp watching his own grandson die? DOUBT IT.
Are you saying that Garp would somehow interfere with the execution? Because I don't think he would because he nearly killed Luffy when Luffy was about to leave W7.
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According to one of the clown, Marine isnt doing anything because they are not aware of this human trading stuffs. But it is apparent Garp knew.
Garp is really an asshole.
- Not doing anything to stop those human trafficking
- trying to kill his own grandson at W7
- Ace is going to be executed and Garp doesnt seem to care.
F*** OFF GARP!!!
-For the lulz
-For the lulz
-For the lulzGarp is so fucking cool.
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Garp interfering in the execution isn't out of the question… but then again, that would be pretty big. Betrayal of the WG would spell his doom. But then again, we don't even know if it's going to happen anywhere near the current plot. The HQ would make a logical place. Aside from that... i think it's about time we get to see another admiral ^^
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@Fire Fist:
So tired of statements like these. People die in One Piece. Deal with it.
No people don't. Sorry. But ODA kills only if realy nececary for the plot. So Ace actually MIGHT die. But normaly people in One Piece don't die.
YOU might as well just accept that.Don't get me wrong I have nothing against people dying in Manga but it just doesn't happen in one piece. :getlost:
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@Fire Fist:
So tired of statements like these. People die in One Piece. Deal with it.
Yeah, in flashbacks, but nowhere else. Peruh survived for godsakes.
Gorlak wants you for the army
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Yeah, in flashbacks, but nowhere else. Peruh survived for godsakes.
Yeah that was the point when I started to just accept it. I mean if flying carrying a plutonium Bomb while it detonates doesn't kill you what will?
A game is a game. Nothing more and nothing less. act like that.
I belive that, to become realy good at something, you have to enjoy the process not the result.
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@Trafalga:
I mean if flying carrying a plutonium Bomb while it detonates doesn't kill you what will?
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Yeah, in flashbacks, but nowhere else. Peruh survived for godsakes.
Marines: Damn!! A flaming net…!!
Thanks to him, we totally lost sight of the Straw-Hat crew. What should we do, Captain?!
Someone killed Mr. 11 when we left him on the ship, too.I'm gonna make a sig for this if I have to. Now quit saying people don't die in present One Piece.
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Some of the people that died in OP outside of flashbacks:
Higuma the bear - seaking.
Mr 11 - gunshot to the head from the millions (i think)
The alabastan Royal guards - Hero water or whatever in their futile attempt to attack Crocodile.
random pirates in the white sea - raider blew up their ship.
Some random pirate fleeing upper yard - Enels lightning balst.
Lots of zombies - Shadow Asgard =PChances of Ace dying: slim but not non existant.
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After actually reading the translation and pics, I find it a shame Silvers didn't even get a word in this chapter. Some of the useless dialogue the Fishriders had should have been cut in half, Luffy shouldn't even have any dialogue unless he is fighting.
Well, supposedly war is about to start between Whitebeard and the Marines. Though I don't know what everyone is getting excited about. A lot of you guys act as if Oda is going to show this in the next couple of chapters or something. Believe me, Oda is not, this is just a heads up for 30 chapters down the road. We didn't even get to see what happen between Whitebeard and Shanks. We rarely see or hear what happens in the World of One Piece. This chapter finally gave us a little bit of info what's happening (hence the title). So expect us to end back up in the auction house for many more chapters.
Ugh.
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@Fire Fist:
Marines: Damn!! A flaming net…!!
Thanks to him, we totally lost sight of the Straw-Hat crew. What should we do, Captain?!
Someone killed Mr. 11 when we left him on the ship, too.I'm gonna make a sig for this if I have to. Now quit saying people don't die in present One Piece.
Ok you're right. Let me correct my statement. People in one Piece don't die except random side characters :getlost:. Cmon I see your point but HOW many side characters are there in One Piece? and one or two die? and that should prove that Oda kills people? (wonder what happened that day? Maybe ODA was in a REALY bad mood
)A game is a game. Nothing more and nothing less. act like that.
I belive that, to become realy good at something, you have to enjoy the process not the result.
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@Trafalga:
Ok you're right. Let me correct my statement. People in one Piece don't die except random baroque agents on navy boats :getlost:. Cmon I see your point but HOW many side characters are there in One Piece? and one dies and that should prove that Oda kills people? (wonder what happened that day? Maybe ODA was in a REALY bad mood
)Fair enough. But I'm gonna name some people, and I want definitive proof that these people are living:
1. Siam and Butchie (Siam especially, since he never got back up after Zoro sliced him)
2. Shura (There's no way. Wiper hit him in the heart with reject, something that killed Eneru, even, though Eneru revived himself).
3. Gin (It was even said he was gonna die soon)
4. Nero
5. The Sniper Pair from Baroque Works
6. Mrs. Monday, Mr. 9
7. YamaThat's enough for now. We know that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents, but the other Strawhats (Robin and Zoro especially) Don't have any such restrictions. Until physical proof that these guys are alive is given, they're dead.
I don't see a problem with Ace dying, that said.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Fair enough. But I'm gonna name some people, and I want definitive proof that these people are living:
1. Siam and Butchie (Siam especially, since he never got back up after Zoro sliced him)
2. Shura (There's no way. Wiper hit him in the heart with reject, something that killed Eneru, even, though Eneru revived himself).
3. Gin (It was even said he was gonna die soon)
4. Nero
5. The Sniper Pair from Baroque Works
6. Mrs. Monday, Mr. 9
7. YamaThat's enough for now. We know that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents, but the other Strawhats (Robin and Zoro especially) Don't have any such restrictions. Until physical proof that these guys are alive is given, they're dead.
I don't see a problem with Ace dying, that said.
Whoa whoa whoa.:blink: Gin is NOT dead. He is just assumed dead. I'll agree with everyone else but "I do not see death in that man's future.."
Plus, Oda just kinda of left his death reallllllly vague. I see him coming back.
I'm just gonna ignore Miracles…:getlost:
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None of those deaths are confirmed so they don't count. Not after what we have seen in the manga. And I really don't care about random filler folk like the crew of those 50 ships Mihawk cut apart or those thousands that died in Alabasta or Drum.
Death is used as a plotdevice in flashbacks and the likes, but we never see anyone killed in the present story and we won't.Gorlak wants you for the army
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ultimately, with the sheer massive scale of destruction that goes on in this series.. people will die! When Ace incinerated the Navy fleet.. yeah. All the random marines that were either electrocuted, bombed, sliced, or snapped at enies lobby from the Strawhats. Shura.. yeah.. i would assume he's a goner (although.. there were lots of "voices" that disappeared in skypiea, that would return a few chapters later). Yama.. i wouldn't doubt that either. etc, etc. I see your frustration though Fire Fist. Just because the trend of the series has shown a lack of death, especially with main characters (basically non-existant even)… that doesn't mean main characters are safe one bit! Yeah it would suck if Ace or any of the Strawhats would bite it (damn that would suck). but it's rather ignorant to say they "can't"
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Are people discussing death in One Piece, AGAIN?!?
People, let's not beat a long dead horse.
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Lets keep it at "any people with a decent name in once piece havn't been killed at any mayor part of the Story" is that ok with you? :getlost:
Again cmon you know what we mean. Nearly ALL the vilians have schown to have survived as well as all important side character. So that hasn't been a trend to kill mayor characters in One Piece and we don't see that changing all out of sudden.
Are people discussing death in One Piece, AGAIN?!?
People, let's not beat a long dead horse.
Oh I'll bet you we havn't beaten THIS horse the last time just now
A game is a game. Nothing more and nothing less. act like that.
I belive that, to become realy good at something, you have to enjoy the process not the result.
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She seemed pretty relaxed at the thought that he's with another woman. If she'd have a relationship going on with him, she wouldn't be relaxed at that thought. Especially if he's been away for half a year. Women can cope with a lot of stuff, but not with that.
Interestingly enough, when interviewed in a geisha documentary, some modern day middle-aged housewives in Japan were comfortable with their husbands having affairs so long as the women were 'of status' and it kept their husbands happy.
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It seems like if your a devil fruit user then you won't die unless your name is Brook that is.
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@Trafalga:
Lets keep it at "any people with a decent name in once piece havn't been killed at any mayor part of the Story" is that ok with you? :getlost:
Don't forget during flashbacks. Some of the most interesting characters in the entire series have died fairly brutal deaths in those.
@Fire Fist:
…That's enough for now. We know that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents, but the other Strawhats (Robin and Zoro especially) Don't have any such restrictions. Until physical proof that these guys are alive is given, they're dead.
I don't see a problem with Ace dying, that said.
The way I see it, Oda is deliberately leaving contemporary death vague for just that reason. Adult readers will understand that death happens and that many of these characters aren't returning for just that reason, while younger readers won't become traumatized.
In regards to ace specifically though, I can't see his death happening. Oda has kept him alive for far too long to kill him off now. @Emperor:
It seems like if your a devil fruit user then you won't die unless your name is Brook that is.
That's for a different reason. Oda can't kill off a devil fruit user until after we meet Dr. Vegapunk and learn how Devil Fruits really work.
