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    • AWB
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      Post whatever theories you may have here.

      Personally, I think Bonney's gluttony will come into play. She may have something similar to life feedback or a fighting style that requires her to eat a lot, like Chouji from Naruto.

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        Okay, here are a couple of random predictions/theories:

        1. Bonney is a D. After all, she certainly has the appetite of one.

        2. Drake can use some rokushiki: Suro, tekkai, and rankyaku at least.

        3. The Rookies are afraid of the Marines and will scatter if an Admiral shows up in an attempt at self preservation.

        4. Trafalgar Law earned his name by the manner in which he uses his blade to make precise incisions at the bodies vital points: Tendons, organs, and the like. He is not actually a doctor.

        5. Basil Hawkin's fatalism will become a running gag like Gedatsu's blindness from his eyes rolling back. Bad portents will make him keep running away from fights.

        6. Urouge is from a sky island that is NOT related to either Bilka or Skypiea. This can be shown by the fact that his wings are of the large swept back variety that until now have only been seen on Enel's high priests.

        7. Luffy will be the highest bountied pirate to enter the New World any time soon.

        8. There won't be any real fights between any of the Super Novas on the Shabondy archipelago, including Luffy and Zoro.

        9. There will be 3 Paramecia fruits and 1 Zoon ( a bird type) among the Rookies, but no Logia.

        That's all I got.

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          I predict SH VS. SR faceoff, though thats pretty obvious.

          I also predict the following match ups:

          Capone vs. Chopper
          Bonney vs. Nami
          Hawkins vs. Zoro
          Kid vs. Luffy
          Apoo vs. Brooke
          Drake vs. Robin
          Urouge vs. Ussop
          Killer vs. Franky
          Law vs. Sanji

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              i think law will do something with doctoring

              because his name is the doctor, so he should do something like that

              hnngrnrgh

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                I obviously concur with Comrade Sanctum.

                I also believe that it's likely that Capone has some sort of theme going for him, possibly a mafia/organized crime boss? Not sure though.

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                  I predict this will be moved to the DUMB theories thread

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                    i think law will do something with doctoring

                    what? he's clearly a lawyer

                    his name is LAW

                    what does he practice?

                    LAW… so he is a lawyer

                    Originally Posted by GaryPotter

                    I fuck my mom and then suck on my own dick.

                    If you only knew the power of the Pork Side

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                      @skarlath:

                      what? he's clearly a lawyer

                      his name is LAW

                      what does he practice?

                      LAW… so he is a lawyer

                      Your logik … so amazing skarlath.

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                        Hmmm. Did this thread turn out this way because it was a stupid idea or because AWB made it?

                        Originally Posted by Ivotas

                        What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                          I don't personally see each Strawhat matching up with each supernova. They were introduced to be rivals to Luffy, not to his crew. Undoubtedly, some of the strawhats will encounter them in battle, but Oda is not as predictable as matching them all uip against each other.

                          I can see some of the supernova eliminating each other as they progress further down the New World, and the more elite ones surviving. The Strawhats are likely to eliminate one or two of their own, but I think all the action will be AFTER fishman island

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                            @Gorlom:

                            Hmmm. Did this thread turn out this way because it was a stupid idea or because AWB made it?

                            answered your own question

                            @Gorlom:

                            it was a stupid idea because AWB made it

                            hnngrnrgh

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                              … Thought it was AWB that said it for a while... =S

                              Beans that is really evil, can't you change your avatar?

                              Originally Posted by Ivotas

                              What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                Why does AWB and BeanS have the same avatar, is this some kinda
                                Colin Mochrie fetish or something?!

                                I think the Sh's will meet the other SN's by themselves not knowing who they are, and Zoro may get into a fight since he's heading to the most un-lawful part!)

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                                  "Massacre" Killer has killed many, many, many, many, many,many people. I mean, with a name like that, not being some kind of plague-to-humanity type serial killer would just seem silly. Like being a skinny guy named Hercules.

                                  Also, why isn't Killer the new Duval yet? He has a mask, a high bounty, and seems to be a great pirate. That's more then Duval ever had. I'll guess first. He's Goku. The hook blades are just a red herring. It's so batshit stupid that it has to be a theory.

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                                    I predict that Hawkins has the Magic Magic Fruit.

                                    His nen ability as a specialist, Emperor Time, allows him to utilize all the types of nen to 100% efficiency.

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                                      @Captain:

                                      Why does AWB and BeanS have the same avatar, is this some kinda
                                      Colin Mochrie fetish or something?!

                                      He's in love with me.

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                                        Law will try to remove Brook's organs but will fail and will commit suicide.

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                                          @ThunderEarthFire:

                                          I predict SH VS. SR faceoff, though thats pretty obvious.

                                          I also predict the following match ups:

                                          Capone vs. Chopper
                                          Bonney vs. Nami
                                          Hawkins vs. Zoro
                                          Kid vs. Luffy
                                          Apoo vs. Brooke
                                          Drake vs. Robin
                                          Urouge vs. Ussop
                                          Killer vs. Franky
                                          Law vs. Sanji

                                          Nah, Law will have to fight Chopper b/c of the doctor thing.

                                          This leaves Sanji to fight Bonney (even though he won't hit a woman, the food relationship - cook/glutton - between the two is just too strong to think otherwise).

                                          Apoo vs. Brooke, yeah, they're both musicians so that makes sense.

                                          I would gamble on a Robin / Urouge pairing. Nothing for sure, but they both have the same laugh (fufu) and the pairing just feels right.

                                          Also, I would think Zoro and Killer would face off, considering each uses blades and each is a crew member of a stronger captain (Luffy and Kid).

                                          Finally, I think a Nami/Capone pairing, since Capone loves to spend money while Nami just loves money.

                                          The twisted thing is, I see the rookies as anti-strawhats in some aspects, as with the spending money/hoarding money, death doctor/good doctor, hurt civilians/ go out of your way to help people attitudes. Oda did a good job with his character mindsets. Either way, something's gonna give, and there is gonna be a huge fight.

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                                            IF a fight were to happen like some of you are predicting, then yes, these vs. pairings would make the most sense.

                                            But, in general, it makes no sense. So the captains (including Killer) of all these DIFFERENT crews are all gonna go against the ENTIRE straw hat crew? You realize all these captains aren't on some sort of team, right? They're just as much enemies of each other than they are the strawhats.

                                            And it's not like they're all in different locations like with Enies Lobby and they might just stumble onto them all individually. If memory serves correctly the 9 of them are occupying 3 different locations. Not 9 different ones. True, they might split up. But I don't think it's going to end up like many of you are hoping it will.

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                                              Luffy, Usopp, and Chopper will all get religion after attending one of Urouge's tent revivals; they will then give away all of their worldly possessions and refer to Nami and Robin as "Dirty Whores of Satan". Luffy and Chopper will then lament the fact that they sold their souls for supernatural power, and be burned at the stake. [/sarcasm]

                                              I don't see any knock-down, drag out fights occurring between the Straw Hats and the Rookies. Brief skirmishes at most, or some other chance meeting that will get all of them acquainted before they head out for Fishman Island. Of course, there will probably be something involving the Heavenly Dragon Shits before that, possibly with all of the Rookies searching for Rayleigh.

                                              I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                                I think the ship will end up being attacked by a big/huge bounty hunter and as a result, Chopper, Franky and Sanji's bounties will go up.

                                                I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                                                  @boiga:

                                                  Okay, here are a couple of random predictions/theories:

                                                  1. Bonney is a D. After all, she certainly has the appetite of one.

                                                  2. Drake can use some rokushiki: Suro, tekkai, and rankyaku at least.

                                                  3. The Rookies are afraid of the Marines and will scatter if an Admiral shows up in an attempt at self preservation.

                                                  4. Trafalgar Law earned his name by the manner in which he uses his blade to make precise incisions at the bodies vital points: Tendons, organs, and the like. He is not actually a doctor.

                                                  5. Basil Hawkin's fatalism will become a running gag like Gedatsu's blindness from his eyes rolling back. Bad portents will make him keep running away from fights.

                                                  6. Urouge is from a sky island that is NOT related to either Bilka or Skypiea. This can be shown by the fact that his wings are of the large swept back variety that until now have only been seen on Enel's high priests.

                                                  7. Luffy will be the highest bountied pirate to enter the New World any time soon.

                                                  8. There won't be any real fights between any of the Super Novas on the Shabondy archipelago, including Luffy and Zoro.

                                                  9. There will be 3 Paramecia fruits and 1 Zoon ( a bird type) among the Rookies, but no Logia.

                                                  That's all I got.

                                                  I can't tell if you're serious or not…......

                                                  @ThunderEarthFire:

                                                  I predict SH VS. SR faceoff, though thats pretty obvious.

                                                  Really? I thought it was pretty obvious that it WOULDN'T happen….

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                                                      I do hope there will be an ALL OUT RUMBLE with everyone, one of the nobles gets hurt some how then it's every one against an admiral / or a quick exit/chase .

                                                      I know it won't happen but I can dream … laa la laaa

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                                                        Lets see, I predict one of them is going to be cannon fooder to make the misterious guy with the axe look cool. I'll say its going to be the Killler guy just for the fact that I think he's just a boring mass murder type of guy, plus it would get Kid involved.

                                                        I believe Booney will get into a weird conflict with Luffy(not fighting) without either one knowing the other one is a big shot pirate. Capone will play the role of the weird villian guy for this arc that will be disposed of in a weird way.

                                                        Law will just look cool for the rest of the arc, his story will be revealed and build on in the New World. Same goes for Hawkins, just that he'll have a brief confrontation with one of the SH, ending it by giving him a criptic message.

                                                        Kid will kill Apoo just to show the cruelity of his character and make us realize just how insane he really is.

                                                        The sky siland guy will go on a rampage through the city cause someone insults his wings.

                                                        Drake will run into Zorro and help him find his way back.

                                                        In the end everyone of them, except Capone, Apoo and Killer will go on to the New World to come into play later.

                                                        -Just note that my post is only half serious :D-

                                                        "Sleep brings no rest to me; The shadows of the death my wakening eyes may never see surround my bed"-Emily Bronte(The Horrors of Sleep)

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                                                          I would be somewhat surprised if this happened, on Fishman Island or here there will be a brawl between the 9 crews, the axe guy and some admiral/ jimbei with commodores/ subordinates. The rookies would have a handfull of strong guys each, the axe guy would have strong guys, the commodores would be strong guys.

                                                          That probably wouldn't happen, but imagine about 40 guys, straw hat level+, all out brawl, shabondy gets recked. Like the war game on upperyard but better. that would last about 50 chapters.

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                                                            Hawkins' power will be to either turn invisible at will or turn other things invisible at will.

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                                                              @177%:

                                                              Hawkins' power will be to either turn invisible at will or turn other things invisible at will.

                                                              Yeah, because noone had that ability until now, right?

                                                              I am pretty sure that these 9 vs 9 fight will not take place, for obvious reasons, that were already mentioned, like what about the Crews? Why should they work together against the Strawhats?
                                                              Some of the rookies will surely become longe-time rivals.

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                                                                @177%:

                                                                Hawkins' power will be to either turn invisible at will or turn other things invisible at will.

                                                                Didn't we just go through that?

                                                                I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                                                                  I don't see the rookies teaming up, more likely working alone but still eventually fighting. Like Killer sees Zoro, says something about how Zoro's nothing compared to him, and killer starts the fight. More of a pissing contest against their counterparts than just a rookies vs. Strawhats team battle.

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                                                                    Was Daddy filler? I can't recall? I think he was. Anyway we could have a content akin to Daddy. In fact how piss funny would it be if Oda put in a shit load of stuff that meant Toei would have to repeat themselves.

                                                                    I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                                                                      that would be just cruel 😁

                                                                      The only reason for walking into the jaws of Death is so's you can steal his gold teeth.

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                                                                        i think the world nobles will catch the rookies and start an battle royale or an ordinary turnament. the winner is allowed to escape.

                                                                        of course, luffy wins…

                                                                        after that, he will start to fight the world nobles. they call an admiral for help.

                                                                        luffy´s to weak for the admiral.

                                                                        in this moment the guy who is 100 times stronger than luffy will show up and help him.

                                                                        he is one of the 4 emperors or frankys das, or maybe both^^

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                                                                          i think the world nobles will catch the rookies and start an battle royale or an ordinary turnament. the winner is allowed to escape.

                                                                          This would be GREAAT

                                                                          Nobles are so cruel and bitchy, it could work

                                                                          There's not bunny

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                                                                            Do we have the name of Franky's dad? Is Reighlay Franky's dad?

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                                                                            What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                              @sabret00the:

                                                                              Was Daddy filler? I can't recall? I think he was. Anyway we could have a content akin to Daddy. In fact how piss funny would it be if Oda put in a shit load of stuff that meant Toei would have to repeat themselves.

                                                                              Toei is in contact with Oda, and Oda give them the autorisation for the fillers and movies… and TOEI also know the following of the story, because Oda don't want to have something reaveal to early, or to be stuck in is story becasue new DF fruit were already used in the anime and so on.

                                                                              • "I've killed 7 in a row" dixit USSOPP ![](images/smilies/ipb/wassat.png "Wassat")

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                                                                                Toei is in contact with Oda, and Oda give them the autorisation for the fillers and movies… and TOEI also know the following of the story, because Oda don't want to have something reaveal to early, or to be stuck in is story becasue new DF fruit were already used in the anime and so on.

                                                                                Why did they stop with the coverstories then? Shouldn't they have known that they would tie into the story?

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                                                                                What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                  @boiga:

                                                                                  Okay, here are a couple of random predictions/theories:

                                                                                  1. Bonney is a D. After all, she certainly has the appetite of one.

                                                                                  2. Drake can use some rokushiki: Suro, tekkai, and rankyaku at least.

                                                                                  3. The Rookies are afraid of the Marines and will scatter if an Admiral shows up in an attempt at self preservation.

                                                                                  4. Trafalgar Law earned his name by the manner in which he uses his blade to make precise incisions at the bodies vital points: Tendons, organs, and the like. He is not actually a doctor.

                                                                                  5. Basil Hawkin's fatalism will become a running gag like Gedatsu's blindness from his eyes rolling back. Bad portents will make him keep running away from fights.

                                                                                  6. Urouge is from a sky island that is NOT related to either Bilka or Skypiea. This can be shown by the fact that his wings are of the large swept back variety that until now have only been seen on Enel's high priests.

                                                                                  7. Luffy will be the highest bountied pirate to enter the New World any time soon.

                                                                                  8. There won't be any real fights between any of the Super Novas on the Shabondy archipelago, including Luffy and Zoro.

                                                                                  9. There will be 3 Paramecia fruits and 1 Zoon ( a bird type) among the Rookies, but no Logia.

                                                                                  That's all I got.

                                                                                  i love your 1,4,6,7 and 9 theory…

                                                                                  but why 3 paramecias and 1 zoan? (i'm just curious)

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                                                                                    Nitpick-Note: These guys technically aren't "rookies." Rookies implies that they started off with said bounty, and given their large-ass bounties…

                                                                                    buttcheeks

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                                                                                      They're rookies compared to the guys in the New World.

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                                                                                        i love your 1,4,6,7 and 9 theory…

                                                                                        but why 3 paramecias and 1 zoan? (i'm just curious)

                                                                                        that will be equivalent with the SH

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                                                                                          i think atleast 2 of the supernovas won't make it off the Island. I think atleast one more after that won't make it to Fishman Island. Then one more won't make it to the new world. The only ones that make it to the new world will be Drake Kid Law Hawkins and Luffy. In the end Luffy will fight Kid on Raftel.

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                                                                                            I think on of the Rookies aside from Luffy is a D. and God I'm hoping it's the girl.

                                                                                            I also think that all of the rookies are searching for a way to get to fish man island.

                                                                                            Those ancestor people who enslave pirates will continue to kill in front of luffy and all of that tension will build until luffy can't take it anymore and kick there ass. making an admiral show up, and it will be Aokoji, and Luffy will want to show him how he intends to protect his crew and goes gear2.
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                                                                                            Kid will fight Luffy wanting to see who's stronger.

                                                                                            Zoro will fight before anyone.

                                                                                            Everyone will end up at the first dock making zoro think he found his way back.

                                                                                            half of the rookies will make it to fish man island where the real fights will begin, our straw hats will be among them of course.

                                                                                            Hell, Jimbie may even show up at one of the docks. Or he will be waiting for the rookies (( or who ever makes it )) on fish man island.

                                                                                            I think the people from their respective home lands, know each another.

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                                                                                              Really? I thought it was pretty obvious that it WOULDN'T happen….

                                                                                              How so? In every arc up until now it has been SH crew vs. somebody in some kind of fight. In addition, most of the introduced characters fall into 2 catagories - those that side with the SH and those who side against them. Pirates tend to be in the second catagory. That said it's not always the case, but if we look at the SR these appear to be the type of bloodthirsty pirates that are the antithesis of the SH. So, in short it is unlikely that they would side with SH especially right off the bat, and much more likely that they will apose them and be drawn into some sort of fight.

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                                                                                                i think atleast 2 of the supernovas won't make it off the Island. I think atleast one more after that won't make it to Fishman Island. Then one more won't make it to the new world. The only ones that make it to the new world will be Drake Kid Law Hawkins and Luffy. In the end Luffy will fight Kid on Raftel.

                                                                                                IMO only five crews will go on the new world, why? because there are 5 paths if I don't make mistakes

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                                                                                                  How so? In every arc up until now it has been SH crew vs. somebody in some kind of fight. In addition, most of the introduced characters fall into 2 catagories - those that side with the SH and those who side against them. Pirates tend to be in the second catagory. That said it's not always the case, but if we look at the SR these appear to be the type of bloodthirsty pirates that are the antithesis of the SH. So, in short it is unlikely that they would side with SH especially right off the bat, and much more likely that they will apose them and be drawn into some sort of fight.

                                                                                                  Did BB face off with the strawhats in the arc he was introduced?

                                                                                                  You probably missed the last arc where we got all these awesome character designs in the zombie generals that were speculated to go 1 vs 1 against the strawhats. In the end we ended up with no real pair up at all from them (Zombie generals).

                                                                                                  Zoro, Sanji and Usopp were the only ones really getting 1vs1 fights with Moria's underlings. None of them with the zombie generals.

                                                                                                  If you look at this arc there are lots of things that speak against the strawhats vs the super novae:
                                                                                                  1. We don't have all the players involved in this arc on the field yet, the introductions has just started. There are more dangers on shabondie islands.
                                                                                                  2. All the supernovae are trying to hold back because of the proximity to (and danger from) the marines.
                                                                                                  3. They are not a unified force. They are the strongest individuals from 8 different groups. (it would be pretty disgracefull for a captain to go after an underling only worth 50 berry, or going after Usopp etc)
                                                                                                  4. This is just a prearc leading into the fishman island arc.

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                                                                                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                                    Did BB face off with the strawhats in the arc he was introduced?

                                                                                                    You probably missed the last arc where we got all these awesome character designs in the zombie generals that were speculated to go 1 vs 1 against the strawhats. In the end we ended up with no real pair up at all from them (Zombie generals).

                                                                                                    Zoro, Sanji and Usopp were the only ones really getting 1vs1 fights with Moria's underlings. None of them with the zombie generals.

                                                                                                    And? Your point is? BB was introduced at the end of an arc which had already had it's fight as a character who wanted to fight SH and probably will at some later point such as Kuma. In any case having SH fight people like SR at some later date would just waste time when they have the emporers, gods of pirate, and supreme admirals to deal with.

                                                                                                    With regards to your other point the general zombies weren't even introduced characters to begin with they were just group-named fodder, like the jurors of CP9 arc. For goodness sake they didn't even have there own names!

                                                                                                    If you look at this arc there are lots of things that speak against the strawhats vs the super novae:
                                                                                                    1. We don't have all the players involved in this arc on the field yet, the introductions has just started. There are more dangers on shabondie islands.
                                                                                                    2. All the supernovae are trying to hold back because of the proximity to (and danger from) the marines.
                                                                                                    3. They are not a unified force. They are the strongest individuals from 8 different groups. (it would be pretty disgracefull for a captain to go after an underling only worth 50 berry, or going after Usopp etc)
                                                                                                    4. This is just a prearc leading into the fishman island arc.

                                                                                                    1. There may be more players but it's unlikely there are any other dangers other than the ones that SH might face later (fishman island arc?).
                                                                                                    2. What a flat out lie they are geared up and ready to fight.
                                                                                                    3. They don't have to be. I never said they were a team or had to fight together, only that SH vs. SR would happen.
                                                                                                    4. That's exactly why they'll be fought now and not later. Fishman Island arc will be pretty underwelming if they fought SR then(FI) and an admiral now(SA).

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                                                                                                      1. There may be more players but it's unlikely there are any other dangers other than the ones that SH might face later (fishman island arc?).
                                                                                                      2. What a flat out lie they are geared up and ready to fight.
                                                                                                      3. They don't have to be. I never said they were a team or had to fight together, only that SH vs. SR would happen.
                                                                                                      4. That's exactly why they'll be fought now and not later. Fishman Island arc will be pretty underwelming if they fought SR then(FI) and an admiral now(SA).

                                                                                                      This might be my first time defending Gorlom, I'm not sure, but

                                                                                                      Responding to 1) We've still got the axe guy, other WNs, other powerful bounty hunters, the crews of the Super Novas which could still have strong guys in them, even if they aren't over 100K, various other Marines, NOT TO MENTION the Admiral that may or may not be coming
                                                                                                      2) No they aren't. The Supernovas aren't there to fight the Marines they're there to get into the New World. And they were just fighting each other because they're pirates cramped together with short tempers.
                                                                                                      3) None of the rookies (aside from Luffy and Zoro and Co) are stupid enough or care enough to attack the World Nobles. Will there be some kind of skirmish by the end of this arc? Probably. Will the Supernovas be involved? Absolutely. Will they just fight to stay alive, or in Kid and Killer's case, to kick ass? Yes.
                                                                                                      4) Why would he just fight Rosward? If Rosward's taken on, it'll lead straight to an Admiral showing up.

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                                                                                                        And? Your point is? BB was introduced at the end of an arc which had already had it's fight as a character who wanted to fight SH and probably will at some later point such as Kuma. In any case having SH fight people like SR at some later date would just waste time when they have the emporers, gods of pirate, and supreme admirals to deal with.

                                                                                                        With regards to your other point the general zombies weren't even introduced characters to begin with they were just group-named fodder, like the jurors of CP9 arc. For goodness sake they didn't even have there own names!

                                                                                                        As I recall BB and his crew were all introduced (maybe not named but still introduced) before Luffy and Zoro even got beat up at the bar. Hell van auger was shown before they even landed at the island.

                                                                                                        And 3 of the Zombie generals still had names. "Sluggish captain John" just dissapeared into nothingness. Lola got turned around and helped Namizou.

                                                                                                        Hogback, Cindry, inupen, Jigorou, the three named midgets and … what was the number 21 zombie named? that bat dude with the vial. I know he has a name.
                                                                                                        all named characters but didn't have any proper 1vs1 duels against the strawhat members.

                                                                                                        1. There may be more players but it's unlikely there are any other dangers other than the ones that SH might face later (fishman island arc?).
                                                                                                        2. What a flat out lie they are geared up and ready to fight.
                                                                                                        3. They don't have to be. I never said they were a team or had to fight together, only that SH vs. SR would happen.
                                                                                                        4. That's exactly why they'll be fought now and not later. Fishman Island arc will be pretty underwelming if they fought SR then(FI) and an admiral now(SA).

                                                                                                        2: You need to read a better translation of the chapter TEF. The only captains that doesn't seem to want to hold back are Kid and Capone. But they are in turn being held back by their crews. The rest either makes other captains stand down or does so instantly when told by those who do.

                                                                                                        I don't even get what you are trying to say in point 3 and 4. To me you seem to be contradicting yourself. Could you clearify? I never meant that they would team up either. but why would they split the strawhats between them like that? THAT is imo one of the most unreasonable aspects of the whole supernovaes vs strawhats. Why wouldn't they just have the rest of their own crew take care of the rest of the strawhats?

                                                                                                        Any Captain picking a fight with Chopper (a pet that is worth 50 berry? come on he will be the laughing stock of the rookies) seems unreasonable to me. And having all the supernovae each pick a 1 vs 1 fight against each of the strawhats are even more unreasonable.
                                                                                                        Who the hell would even manage to pick a fight with Robin? Seriously how do you piss her off enough to entice her to a battle? There are no ancient ruins laying around one could trash as far as I can see.

                                                                                                        ID: what are you talking about on 3) and 4)? who are you responding to?
                                                                                                        Right now it's not about causing trouble in general it's the likelyhood of the 9 super rookies against the strawhats in 1 vs 1 fights.

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                                                                                                        What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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