shouldnt they still be able to swim?
What if a fishmen got a devil fruit?
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Uh, I don't think so, they'd sink like a rock, but would still be able to breathe underwater, thus not drowning.
Then they'd have to get lifted out or just walk along the seafloor until they reach a island. -
they wouldn't drown
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I'm imagining that there's some poor fishman.devil fruit user stuck at the bottom of the sea, pissed off cause he can't move thanks to his fruit yet alive since he can't drown.
I'd bet a shin penny that's gonna happen one of these days.
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Uh, I don't think so, they'd sink like a rock, but would still be able to breathe underwater, thus not drowning.
Then they'd have to get lifted out or just walk along the seafloor until they reach a island.
submerged = paralysation. It's not that they sink it's that they can't move at all.
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afaik Oda saif in an intreview that Fishmen die if they eat a DF
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submerged = paralysation. It's not that they sink it's that they can't move at all.
Orly?
Didn't know that, it's nice to learn new things.
{Yes, it's not supposed to be a new thing, but I only started reading the manga from the middle.}
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umm, what exactly is the question here? DFs make the user become paralyzed in water. Why should it matter if they're excellent swimmers naturally or not? The effect is still the same…
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Orly?
Didn't know that, it's nice to learn new things.
{Yes, it's not supposed to be a new thing, but I only started reading the manga from the middle.}
{>.>;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;}But that's how DF works from the start of Arlong Arc. (I believe that there's an Arlong park in the anime)
@SBS thing
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fishmen exist cause so oda don`t have the problem to explain how a fish-fish-DF would work…and a fishman would be stupid if he eat a DF and with that ...loosing his best ability..:blink:
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But that's how DF works from the start of Arlong Arc. (I believe that there's an Arlong park in the anime)
@SBS thing
Really Oda said that?There was a Arlong arc, it's just that in the anime it didn't exactly state that you're immobile, just that you sink no matter what you do.
Which is a difference, since a sunk but mobile fishman could save himself.@SBS,
Are you sure? How could that happen?
I mean, humans, guns and animals can eat a DF and be unharmed, but fishmen just die?
Or is it because being a fishman makes them "demonic" so like with one who already has a DF power, the two "demons" of the fruit fight and kill the fishman?
:SOnce more, damn funimation.
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@ Don,
Fishmen do have other superhuman abilities other then swimming, like having ten times more strength then a human, without training.
And then there's that thing Arlong did with a palm full of water. -
I think this is the 1,233,424,323 time a thread like this has been created.
re: Oda comments from SBS. I do not recall any such comment. Maybe it does exist, but I'd like to know where. Any time you want to quote Oda, please post the exact quote and source or else it should be ignored.
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Fishmen do have other superhuman abilities other then swimming, like having ten times more strength then a human, without training.
And then there's that thing Arlong did with a palm full of water.:happy:10times stronger than a "normal human"..look at lucci 400times stronger!!!! and in OP strong charas aren
t that rare…. also a fishman who couldnt swim is like luffy without his gomo-gomo no mie...
can`t beeeeeeeeeee
so they would give up "living under water", "swimming like a fish or better",and totally "isolation from their family\crew"..bad thing:sad: -
How many more times is this gonna be discussed when all canon points to it being dumb?
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Thread next month: What would happen if Camie ate a Devil Fruit…
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@Don:
:happy:10times stronger than a "normal human"..look at lucci 400times stronger!!!! and in OP strong charas aren
t that rare…. also a fishman who couldnt swim is like luffy without his gomo-gomo no mie...
can`t beeeeeeeeeee
so they would give up "living under water", "swimming like a fish or better",and totally "isolation from their family\crew"..bad thing:sad:But Lucchi trained like hell to get around 400 times stronger then a normal human. Whilst a fishman is born 10 times stronger. I know it's now comparison, but the fishman does have a considerable head-start.
I think Luffy still has a formidable strength without his gomu gomu powers. I mean, look how long he stretches his arms, the gomu gomu no mi only makes you stretch, but doesn't give you the insane power to stretch that far. He lifts boulders and all sorts of things, I think he'd still be kickass without his gomu gomu no mi powers.
It'd be something like Tom, isolated by his rather racist peers and left to live with humans who, no matter how much good he did, considered him to be a monster.
A sad life, but still possible.@AWB,
Happy birthday =]
I really don't get why people decide to try and be mean and insulting towards others, but by ignoring them you're showing a lot of maturity.
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tom was hated cause of the fear of the WG and also cause a fishman could built better ships than a human….shiat to be a proud human ..also we could see that fishman aren`t welcome well anyways(great theory was around here 2weeks ago orso)...
also i meant without the DF it wouldn
t be the same manga and luffy would be damn strong but dont you see their would miss the special thing
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What are you trying to say Don?
I don't think anyone is talking about removing Devilfruits or fishmen from the manga…
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@Don:
tom was hated cause of the fear of the WG and also cause a fishman could built better ships than a human….shiat to be a proud human ..also we could see that fishman aren`t welcome well anyways(great theory was around here 2weeks ago orso)...
also i meant without the DF it wouldn
t be the same manga and luffy would be damn strong but dont you see their would miss the special thingThey called him a "monster" and various other things, due to the inevitable prejudice humans had towards the generally cruel and racist fishmen. Fishmen like Arlong were much more common then nicer ones like Hatchan, and even he wasn't entirely good and did things to humans.
Before the whole world government issue, Tom was working in a secret place, under the bridge. Reason? Because of people generally hating him, for being a rather scary-looking and massive fishman.
Luffy wouldn't have the hilarious stretching skills, but knowing Luffy, he could easily come up with attacks suited for a normal human.
@Gorlom,
He means Luffy not having a DF power, is the equivalent of a fishman not being able to swim, which is in his opinion a complete cripple. -
Ah that makes alot more sense then what I thought he was trying to say…
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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This is a p. crappy thread.
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Ah that makes alot more sense then what I thought he was trying to say…
:getlost:i wanted to say that their is no need to have a fishman with a DF cause they already "have" in some way a DF–(fish-fish-DF)
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There's no need for this nonsense popping up every month
Just wait patiently for the next chapters of One Piece
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@Don:
:getlost:i wanted to say that their is no need to have a fishman with a DF cause they already "have" in some way a DF–(fish-fish-DF)
Which sorta explains that other persons post as in for why fishmen die after eating a DF.
But I don't think so.
A fishman who sacrificed his swimming ability to gain, say a power similar to Eneru's, thats what I call a good deal.
And he gets to keep the superior strength fishmen have. -
you never know which power you will get but sure every1 would have a try:happy:
when a fishman should have a DF than it will be jinbei(cause last 5 main villains also had a DF)..so if jinbei will be a main villain in some arc(hoply fishman-island-arc) than the chance he could have a DF could be very high….but we will see in my opinion they`re skilled enough---compared to a "normal human" -
we should just have a jimbei thread
I think threads for specific characters are allowed.
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@Don:
you never know which power you will get but sure every1 would have a try:happy:
when a fishman should have a DF than it will be jinbei(cause last 5 main villains also had a DF)..so if jinbei will be a main villain in some arc(hoply fishman-island-arc) than the chance he could have a DF could be very high….but we will see in my opinion they`re skilled enough---compared to a "normal human"Yeah that was something else I thought about.
What if someone only ate a slice of a DF?
Would he still gain cool powers?
Because, imagine a crew all eating slices of a DF and gaining teh mad skillz.Jinbei is apparently some type of whale fishman, his size,power and DF powerz would be so awesome!
I'm looking forward to some heated battle like that.But then again, I have greater respect for non-DF users, like Shanks and Zorro, who are still extremely powerful.
Notice I'm not counting in Mihawk since there's some doubt on whether or not he's got a DF. -
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
we should just have a jimbei thread
I think threads for specific characters are allowed.
now with your BB-ava and signature you have to be the pure evil i see….but plz don
t be sarcastic cause its annoying (or is it just you?!):getlost:
i am the same opinion that some threads are rly unnecessary but than i dont post every hour something on this thread...stay on your opinion dude or shame on you :wassat: and talking about what is allowed and what not doesnt fit your i-net chara KaKa--you failed:blink: -
@Don:
now with your BB-ava and signature you have to be the pure evil i see….but plz don
t be sarcastic cause its annoying (or is it just you?!):getlost:
i am the same opinion that some threads are rly unnecessary but than i dont post every hour something on this thread...stay on your opinion dude or shame on you :wassat: and talking about what is allowed and what not doesnt fit your i-net chara KaKa--you failed:blink:Trolls are not to be fed, cause they end up pooping (pardon the language) all over the place.
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Yeah that was something else I thought about.
What if someone only ate a slice of a DF?
Would he still gain cool powers?
Because, imagine a crew all eating slices of a DF and gaining teh mad skillz.Jinbei is apparently some type of whale fishman, his size,power and DF powerz would be so awesome!
I'm looking forward to some heated battle like that.But then again, I have greater respect for non-DF users, like Shanks and Zorro, who are still extremely powerful.
Notice I'm not counting in Mihawk since there's some doubt on whether or not he's got a DF.it
s mainly sure that the 1 who takes the first bite(or swollow a piece) ,get the power…and its a rule that only 1 in the world could have a DF ability...after he dies some1 else could get again the same DF-power(only reason why BB could have a DF-book so that he was able to find his darkness-DF)in my opinion mihawk won
t have a DF cause so the last fight against zoro for the crown of best swordfighter would be more equal...both only with their strenght and their skill....dont know would be not the same for me if they wouldn`t fight here on the same "level"
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Trolls are not to be fed, cause they end up pooping (pardon the language) all over the place.
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@Don:
it
s mainly sure that the 1 who takes the first bite(or swollow a piece) ,get the power…and its a rule that only 1 in the world could have a DF ability...after he dies some1 else could get again the same DF-power(only reason why BB could have a DF-book so that he was able to find his darkness-DF)in my opinion mihawk won
t have a DF cause so the last fight against zoro for the crown of best swordfighter would be more equal...both only with their strenght and their skill....dont know would be not the same for me if they wouldn`t fight here on the same "level"Aye, got it.
Silverwind has been feeding me with some story about a star falling into the ocean due to the world turning evil. The star turns into a seed, the seed into a tree which sucks up the evil through the water (thus being the reason why water imobilizes DF users) and after time to time it's suffering becomes to great and it lets it out in the form of a fruit, which falls down into random places in the world.
Not too sure whether he was just fooling with me, or being honest.There is something weird about his eyes. Or maybe he uses contacts to get the whole vampire look.
I'd really love it if Zorro, despite being Mihawks junior in swordfighting and despite not having a DF wins against a DF-using Mihawk. That would be…indescribably cool, awesome, fantastic. And many more adjectives to be added <33333so true but i just said my opinion and he could troll around as he is in the mood to give me something to laugh about
It's cute to watch the little trolls play:
^ See? Thats a diddle-widdle Kaimei-kun. -
Oh yeah
Trolls
More like LOBSTERS
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Aye, got it.
Silverwind has been feeding me with some story about a star falling into the ocean due to the world turning evil. The star turns into a seed, the seed into a tree which sucks up the evil through the water (thus being the reason why water imobilizes DF users) and after time to time it's suffering becomes to great and it lets it out in the form of a fruit, which falls down into random places in the world.
Not too sure whether he was just fooling with me, or being honest.There is something weird about his eyes. Or maybe he uses contacts to get the whole vampire look.
I'd really love it if Zorro, despite being Mihawks junior in swordfighting and despite not having a DF wins against a DF-using Mihawk. That would be…indescribably cool, awesome, fantastic. And many more adjectives to be added <33333It's cute to watch the little trolls play:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q3/Vas123_2006/Funny/troll.jpg
^ See? Thats a diddle-widdle Kaimei-kun.uhh rly…think he just gave you 1 possible (but surely very sweet) explanation lol
but sure if mihawk has a awesome-0 DF it could be very very interesting hehe but i want to see a proud fight ...two hard working man without the power of a demon who made alone their way to the top of the swordfighting elite of the world :happy:
and whats a diddle-widdle?? some nice-cute-loving sound cause i couldn`t hear you right now with all the irony in your voice??
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@Don:
uhh rly…think he just gave you 1 possible (but surely very sweet) explanation lol
but sure if mihawk has a awesome-0 DF it could be very very interesting hehe but i want to see a proud fight ...two hard working man without the power of a demon who made alone their way to the top of the swordfighting elite of the world :happy:
and whats a diddle-widdle?? some nice-cute-loving sound cause i couldn`t hear you right now with all the irony in your voice??
I see. Silverwind is such a random person, I thought he was pulling a prank.
His explanation did have some more to it, about how those who created the world and had vowed not to manipulate it any further were crying, which resulted in the OP world turning into a oceanic world with only a single continent and hundreds of islands. The star took pity and didn't want the people to drown and sacrificed herself.
Again, very cute story <3Mihawk would have a eye-bility, probably one of extremely enhanced vision, to the point of picking up miniscule muscle movements, thus predicting the opponents moves.
For Mihawks sake in my eyes, the man on man fight would be much better. I'd respect him much more.Me? Irony?
It's a endearing sound, given to cute little frolicking trolls.
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I want to see Chuu with Ace's Devil fruit, but that's bending OP logic…Hey wait, this is One Piece, so... LOGIC BE DAAAAAAMNED. But the fishmen would already be eaten by a sea moster or something unless a friend of his saves him.
I think someone needs to eat a happle. <3Mah dA.Bombing for peace is like having sex for virginity. -
I see. Silverwind is such a random person, I thought he was pulling a prank.
His explanation did have some more to it, about how those who created the world and had vowed not to manipulate it any further were crying, which resulted in the OP world turning into a oceanic world with only a single continent and hundreds of islands. The star took pity and didn't want the people to drown and sacrificed herself.
Again, very cute story <3my opinion it has something to do with the ancient history just a thought cause also WG-people got more than enough of them:wassat: so it couldn`t be something left from the ancient kingdom to create some opponent force against the "bad" WG ,hehe…but could also be a explanation
Me? Irony?
It's a endearing sound, given to cute little frolicking trolls.
=]very sweet ,lady …hard to handle such ironic and in the same way cute response
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@Don:
my opinion it has something to do with the ancient history just a thought cause also WG-people got more than enough of them:wassat: so it couldn`t be something left from the ancient kingdom to create some opponent force against the "bad" WG ,hehe…but could also be a explanation
very sweet ,lady ...hard to handle such ironic and in the same way cute response devilishHmm, well the fact that the WG has easy access to DF's makes the whole idea of them being used as a force against evil turn into bleh.
But then again, they did call the scientists from Ohara "demons", so maybe they named DF's "devil fruits" in a attempt to scare people away from them, thus gaining more power to fully dictate over the world.The whole Ancient Kingdom business better be good, I'm far too eager to find out more.
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Eh, thanks.@Kitty-chan,
Oooh! Fire shooting out of his weird mouth!
shiny eyes
But Ace does it in such a cool way…
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@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Oh yeah
Trolls
More like LOBSTERS
! Sakura Baked U A Cake <3
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@Lobster:
! Sakura Baked U A Cake <3
[qimg]http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3774/sakurabakesitritebygabzbm2.jpg[/qimg]Huh?
Oh yes, I've kidnapped you LPS.:3
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t think oda rly has to explain why their "are" DFs..just with vegapunk "how" they work…
but the WG wants to destroy everything which has something to do with the ancient history(porneglypths, also gol.D Rogers era they want to control) and the DFs arent that they have to fear for ,cause nobody connect them with the ancient kingdom and they use them very well for their own goals....but to much off-topic
lets get back to the trolls as always ,wujiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii wuhahahaha -
@Don:
don
t think oda rly has to explain why their "are" DFs..just with vegapunk "how" they work…
but the WG wants to destroy everything which has something to do with the ancient history(porneglypths, also gol.D Rogers era they want to control) and the DFs arent that , they have to fear for cause nobody connect them with the ancient kingdom and they use them very well for their goals....But, there are people out there who want to know the history of things. He should explain major things like that.
The OP world must be a really weird place, not just for pirates, but for normal people.
I mean, didn't anyone but those in Ohara wonder what went on a few years ago?
Or, don't those ancient old granpa's tell their grandchildren what went on during those times?
Or…did the WG kill them all?!
:sad:The Pluton was connected to the ancient kingdom, but they wanted to retrieve it...
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~giggle~
Trolls! shijjjijijjijijijjijijijjijijjgujijijijijijgujigujigujigujigujiguji! squeak squeak x3 -
The Fish Fish no Mi should not even exsist. oAo It's profly not even a devil fruit.
I think someone needs to eat a happle. <3Mah dA.Bombing for peace is like having sex for virginity. -
question over question
but oda will tell us sooner or later hehe..so far we have to speculate
but you see in the case of ohara how they threat people who want to know about the lost history…and 800 yrs are a long time or do you know so much about the 14century??(i mean without looking i-net or such other medias hahaha)
and pluton could be a dangerous weapon(but wasn`t this1 from tom) in their hands thats why the ancient people created the porneglyphs(only robin could read them in this days in the OP-world)to protect their mysterys(surely they had other mighty weapons orso) against the wrong persons and they are the only way to tell their story...WG destroyed everything else -
@Don:
question over question
but oda will tell us sooner or later hehe..so far we have to speculate
but you see in the case of ohara how they threat people who want to know about the lost history…and 800 yrs are a long time or do you know so much about the 14century??(i mean without looking i-net or such other medias hahaha)
and pluton could be a dangerous weapon(but wasn`t this1 from tom) in their hands thats why the ancient people created the porneglyphs(only robin could read them in this days in the OP-world)to protect their mysterys(surely they had other mighty weapons orso) against the wrong persons and they are the only way to tell their story...WG destroyed everything elseI like speculating, it forces my brain to work for something I like for a change, not just homework and all that shizzle.
History books, I used to read them a lot, so yes, I do know quite a bit about the fourteenth century, both european and middle-eastern. Not much about japan though :sad:
But, the blank century wasn't that distant, it was just the previous century, so people like that barman in Logue town should know about it, especially since he knew Gol D. Roger well.
OOOOH! And Smoker must know much too <33333333333333333 :wub:I'm wondering, how did those in Ohara learn how to decipher the poneglyph?
Why don't those in Alabasta sit and study the poneglyph and learn how to decipher it? Well, then again I doubt Cobra wanted Alabasta suffering the same fate as Ohara. -
:happy:yeah thinking about something else than the regular all-day bullshit is rly something which could be called "relaxing" hahahah
but the blanc history in OP IS 800yrs back so no living chara in OP could know much about it if he hadn
t read a book about it(which wasnt burned)…
but which barman you mean(again some anime guy...just take infos as real as long theyre in the manga)..and also smoker couldnt know much about the blanc history just because he was at gol.D executionbut good to know that you`re well studied
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@Don:
:happy:yeah thinking about something else than the regular all-day bullshit is rly something which could be called "relaxing" hahahah
but the blanc history in OP IS 800yrs back so no living chara in OP could know much about it if he hadn
t read a book about it(which wasnt burned)…
but which barman you mean(again some anime guy...just take infos as real as long theyre in the manga)..and also smoker couldnt know much about the blanc history just because he was at gol.D executionbut good to know that you`re well studied
Pondering over something isn't really relaxing, it's a personal opinion but I think there's enough time to relax when I'm dead.
x3In Logue Town, the barman at the Gold Roger pub, where Luffy went and heard tales of Gol D. Roger.
He knew Gol D. Roger pretty well, having him as a regular customer. Gol D. Roger knew how to decipher poneglyphs, so maybe he told the barman something. Or maybe someone else, he did after all, read the Rio poneglyph.
Smoker was friends with that barman, and he's really influental and knows a lot for his age. But then again, maybe a big, old turtle knows everything about that century, I don't know.800?! There. Once more, me watching the funimation dub has hit me in the face. :getlost:
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yeah this barman isn`t in the manga so some gimmick for the anime…not rly from oda sonot that much important i think...
but it
s relaxing to talk about the same interests with someone else and so you could get new points of view...thats what matters not if youre right or the other(isnt it a clear stated fact everywhere around the world)
