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No one ever said the admirals were a part of the three powers.why wouldnt they exist before 50 years ago?
Oh never said they wouldn't exist, it's just more sure now.
Well in fact, Brook's reaction does not prove anything : he's so dumb he could just be impressed by the term. ^^
I think that considering where they are and what's in their world, a talking skeleton probably would be less controversial than a Fishman or a Mermaid, even though their island is just below the Red Line.
@Fire Fist:
Robin was speaking in general. Notice Caimie AND Hatchi are hiding their appearance. Hatchi even went as far as to cover his tattoo. If that tattoo is the symbol of Jimbei, though, as people are speculating, it doesn't make much sense unless even the Shichibukai Gyojin is oppressed, as well.
Surprised no one's said anything about a talking Starfish or a Skeleton. Papagg may be a regular, there, so that's not such a shock, but I expected Brooke to at least wear his glasses.
I know Hatchi is hiding his appearance, too, but where does it imply that Robin is speaking in general? Nami and Robin is talking about Camie, about she is getting more reserved, and Robin responds that she maybe has a "bad story". No Hatchi or anyone else.
And remember there was last chapter where Camie couldn't ride the ferris wheel. I think the bad story and the ferris wheel is linked together.
Oda has a lot of compassion for his villains. He even gave a happy end to Wapol, Baroque Works and Eneru.
It was the same for Duval who was a villain like Robin, Hacchi, Bon Kurei and Vivi (when she was still a part of BW). They get defeated and befriended later.
It creates a nice contrast with the 'world nobles' who are clearly set up to be annihilated in the end. I don't see how they could get redeemed.
Just a little question. Sanji said Zoro-kun. Is that normal?
Hm, are you really asking if it´s normal or (which is my guess) if the Zoro-kun thing is a correct translation?
Anyways, Sanji in fact does say Zoro-kun in the raw which definitely is not normal for how the two of them refer to each other. If I´m not mistaken this is at max the third time that Sanji called Zoro by name.
Hm, are you really asking if it´s normal or (which is my guess) if the Zoro-kun thing is a correct translation?
Anyways, Sanji in fact does say Zoro-kun in the raw which definitely is not normal for how the two of them refer to each other. If I´m not mistaken this is at max the third time that Sanji called Zoro by name.
I'm probably wrong on this but maybe Sanji has developed some respect for Zoro after what he did to save the crew in Thriller Bark. That or Oda is trying to please the yaoi fans.
Just a little question. Sanji said Zoro-kun. Is that normal?
Yes, oddly enough, it is. He doesn't call him "kun" nearly as often as he calls him "Marimo", but the intent is the same – to tease him for being overly concerned (or overly unconcerned) about something.
The last time Sanji called him "kun" was when Zoro told him not to try to fight CP9 on the train until the rest of the crew got there to help him out. Sanji's response to the comment was something like: "Ohhh, is poor little Zoro-kun worried about me?" (Zoro's response was an embarrassed "HELL NO!")
So yeah, read Sanji's comments to Zoro in this chapter with a mocking tone, and they won't seem so odd anymore. It's just another way for the two of them to continue the Alpha battle: verbally.
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hmmm. I smell a longer arc than we anticipated. Usopp/Sanji/Franky may be out since they are in the ship (unless they are attacked), but the rest have divided into three groups (Zoro, Nami + Robin, Luffy + Brook + Chopper).
There are marines, world nobles and bounty hunters around.
Hatchi and Keimy are hiding their appearances (Hatchi not only covered his tatoo, but also hide his other arms under his shirt). They also asked to not be called "fishman or mermaid".
I wonder where this is going…
I know Hatchi is hiding his appearance, too, but where does it imply that Robin is speaking in general? Nami and Robin is talking about Camie, about she is getting more reserved, and Robin responds that she maybe has a "bad story". No Hatchi or anyone else.
And remember there was last chapter where Camie couldn't ride the ferris wheel. I think the bad story and the ferris wheel is linked together.
I think you're looking too much into it. Really, it's probably just simple racism. Let's look at the facts:
1. Hatchi asks that he and Caimie be referred to as humans.
2. They've disguised their appearance as such.
3. Gyojin Island is directly below Marijoie, as if they built it on top of them to add insult.
4. The only non-pirate Gyojin we've seen thus far is Tom, and he was treated like garbage by Water 7 except for Kokoro, Franky, and Iceburg.
5. Kokoro had to disguise her appearance in order to fit in at Water 7.
6. Arlong considered the Gyojin superior without explaining his motives. Some have conjectured it might be out of jealousy.
To me, this adds up to a lot of racism and prejudice in the One Piece world. Caimie MAY be a special case, as you're suggesting, with a little more to her story, but in general, I think it's just racism.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
@Fire Fist:
I think you're looking too much into it. Really, it's probably just simple racism. Let's look at the facts:
1. Hatchi asks that he and Caimie be referred to as humans.
2. They've disguised their appearance as such.
3. Gyojin Island is directly below Marijoie, as if they built it on top of them to add insult.
4. The only non-pirate Gyojin we've seen thus far is Tom, and he was treated like garbage by Water 7 except for Kokoro, Franky, and Iceburg.
5. Kokoro had to disguise her appearance in order to fit in at Water 7.
6. Arlong considered the Gyojin superior without explaining his motives. Some have conjectured it might be out of jealousy.To me, this adds up to a lot of racism and prejudice in the One Piece world. Caimie MAY be a special case, as you're suggesting, with a little more to her story, but in general, I think it's just racism.
However, when Keimy notices that the Tenryuubito may be nearby, she gets desperate and points the fact to Hatchi. Hatchi immediatelly asks Luffy to get out of the bubble for some reason, and then we do not see her for the rest of the chapter. (Maybe she is hidden in Luffy's bubble vehicle?)
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
However, when Keimy notices that the Tenryuubito may be nearby, she gets desperate and points the fact to Hatchi. Hatchi immediatelly asks Luffy to get out of the bubble for some reason, and then we do not see her for the rest of the chapter. (Maybe she is hidden in Luffy's bubble vehicle?)
My take on him getting out of the bubble vehicle was based on the same reason that people bow for kings/queens: "The King/Queen is the closest to heaven, therefore no one's head shall be above theirs." If anything, it's kissing ass to these snobbish bastards.
@Fire Fist:
I think you're looking too much into it. Really, it's probably just simple racism. Let's look at the facts:
1. Hatchi asks that he and Caimie be referred to as humans.
2. They've disguised their appearance as such.
3. Gyojin Island is directly below Marijoie, as if they built it on top of them to add insult.
4. The only non-pirate Gyojin we've seen thus far is Tom, and he was treated like garbage by Water 7 except for Kokoro, Franky, and Iceburg.
5. Kokoro had to disguise her appearance in order to fit in at Water 7.
6. Arlong considered the Gyojin superior without explaining his motives. Some have conjectured it might be out of jealousy.To me, this adds up to a lot of racism and prejudice in the One Piece world. Caimie MAY be a special case, as you're suggesting, with a little more to her story, but in general, I think it's just racism.
The strange is, if racism is the case, I don't understand why Camie hasn't explicitly stated her problem with racism to the Straw Hats. She know them good enough to tell them of such of a problem.
If she had a really sad background story like Robin and Nami, she would probably not tell them, because they shouldn't be bothered with such a problem, but why should she hide her hatred of racism?
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God Sanji is such a tool. I agree that the Zoro-kun was likely mocking him, though it might have been subliminal. Zoro is about like a child when it comes to his sense of direction.
…I cant wait to see Luffy whomp the nobles. There's not way he's gonna sit on his hands and behave.
Hatchan is wearing the bandages over his head because he i disgraced by the tattoo he wore while he was part of arlong's crew
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Hatchan is wearing the bandages over his head because he i disgraced by the tattoo he wore while he was part of arlong's crew
First of all, that's not Arlong's tattoo. Arlong's tattoo is the Japanese Sawshark tattoo that Nami used to have on her shoulder and Arlong had on his chest. This tattoo seems exclusive to certain Gyojin, and is a sun with 3 "legs", each with two prongs. It's probably Jimbei's tattoo.
Second, Hatchi had that tattoo visible throughout the entire ordeal with Duval. He only covered it when they entered the Shabondy Isles.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Yeah i guess you're right (but it would be cool if he changed like nami did with her tattoo but into the straw hats jolly roger)
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Again we see an incredible culture in One Piece. Shabody Island is simplay amazing. The bubbles, the souvenirs, the hotels–it's clearly a fun place! And, through it we get a little preview of Fishman Island--we can expect more bubbles there.
As for the nobles, I think I'm seeing a pattern forming. The slave trade with Duval, the slaving nobles here, and Hatchi/Camie's desire to hide themselves. Could we be getting a theme of imprisonment and freedom throughout these arcs? After all, the Freedom of the seas is a hallmark of a pirate's life. I can imagine the inspiring moment in the where Luffy and crew win against whatever limiting force is coming their way.
I'm really wondering what the relationship between fishmen and this island is! Ever if they're separated by 10000 meters, these islands are still right under each other. I can only imagine why the likes of Hatchi and Camie would need to hide themselves. Are the fishman victims of some kind of persecution that even the entire fishman race and Jimbei can't solve?
My mind's a racing. This storyline has a lot of cool things coming it's way.
Somehow I'm starting to imagine that this could be a weird setup through what's going on that Jinbei is a lot nicer than what we got across with the Arlong arc. Perhaps he was more respectful of the humans that spit on them high above (thus giving him the mentality of being a government dog via the Shichibukai) and Arlong just didn't give a damn and thought that the only way to get respect against humans is to dominate them full force.
interesting chapter. this arc reminds me of mexico. o_O
i felt bad fer the pirate who's head sploded. D=
Just read it.nice,but I stil say Roswald is the result of an idea that made Oda do Achino.He is wery similar in design and from what weve seen in colecting pirate related stuff.
Man, those nobles are the biggest assholes in One Piece since Bellamy. Oda has a way with rich snobs who like to abuse their power (Helmppo and Wapol). But, something tells me that these villains are gonna make them look like monks.
and Spandam/Spandine were NOT assholes in your opinion?
I see, so Hachi covered up his tattoo… I knew there had to be something behind that. Interesting chapter, but not really that great. I'm looking forward to seeing the hammer guy though.
@Tokoro:
Somehow I'm starting to imagine that this could be a weird setup through what's going on that Jinbei is a lot nicer than what we got across with the Arlong arc. Perhaps he was more respectful of the humans that spit on them high above (thus giving him the mentality of being a government dog via the Shichibukai) and Arlong just didn't give a damn and thought that the only way to get respect against humans is to dominate them full force.
I have a feeling that the opposite is true. My theory is that Jinebei is going though the same thing Nami did: working with the enemy, and knowing that if you try to rebel, the people that you know and love will die. I think Jinebi orignally became a pirate captain for the purpose of getting strong enough to challenge the WG one day. As Jinebi had more and more close encounters with the Marines, he became overly protective of his crew, and worried about the potential fates of his comrades: death, imprisonment in Impel down, or worst of all being slaves to the noble bastards. In the end he decided to become a government lackey in return for not only the protection of his crew, but for all of the fishmen and merpeople.
This was a really good chapter. Very intense and so much detail. I love the bubble vehicles and the innovative ways the locals use the bubbles in everything. Really cool island that I would love to visit. My question is how do you find Shabondy? I think I missed that in the other chapters.
Those nobles piss me off. I hate seeing people treated less than human. No one has the right to do that. I hope the Straw Hats do something about that and they probably will.
My guess on why Hatchi, Camie and Pappagya are disguised is because fishmen/mermen go for very high prices in the slave market. Especially mermaids. Possibly why Hatchi hides his mark because it identifies him as a fishman.
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Robin's in handcuffs; Ace is in chains; Zoro's a Loli-Goth's pet dog/slave; Sanji's been attacked by transvestites and an entire clan has just dropped their drawers for Brook.
In one small chapter, Oda made OP's doujin community completely redundant.
My guess on why Hatchi, Camie and Pappagya are disguised is because fishmen/mermen go for very high prices in the slave market. Especially mermaids. Possibly why Hatchi hides his mark because it identifies him as a fishman.
No, the mark is only on certain Gyojin. Macro had one but his henchman didn't, and from Arlong's Crew, only Arlong, Hatchi, Chuu, and Kuroobi had the mark. The others didn't, and neither did Tom or Octopako.
That's why I think it's exclusive to those in Jimbei's crew.
This is just a theory, though… but in a lot of fiction, there are cities with no day. Cities of Eternal night. Considering Gyojin Island is 10,000 meters underwater (which is almost 6 miles), it may very well be that place in One Piece. That could explain the symbol as well, being that it looks like a black sun.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Well, Hachi doesn't get identified as a fishman by that mark only. I mean, his arms were covered, but that huge suction cup of a mouth, and the coral pink skin is sort of a dead giveaway. I'm pretty sure its for people who were or are in Jimbei's crew.
dude, Oda's iso ripping of my boyfriend's fanfic with that axe guy!
(lol j/k)
Well, Hachi doesn't get identified as a fishman by that mark only. I mean, his arms were covered, but that huge suction cup of a mouth, and the coral pink skin is sort of a dead giveaway. I'm pretty sure its for people who were or are in Jimbei's crew.
Hm, true. You might be right. But it doesn't quite account for Camie hiding her fin. Though, they did say mermaids went for a lot so that could be why in just her case.
I got this image in my head of kid Arlong getting beaten to a pulp by humans just for being a fishman, that would be a sad backstory.
The Shabondy Archipelago seems to be based off of Renaissance Italy (or Medieval Italy, I'm not sure). The style of architecture fits, as do the names of the people and food. And if I remember correctly, Italian nobility didn't like to associate with commoners much, going so far as to wear masks so as not to breathe the same air as lesser beings, building separate roads for nobles, etc. This is probably another connection to Skypiea, since the themes of Skypiea are very reminiscent of the political climate in Renaissance Italy, with some names even being taken from there. It's nice to see that Oda is making parallels to Skypiea without this arc feeling at all repetitive.
As to predictions for the future… I don't know. The World Nobles aren't what I expected. Courtiers, yes, but not courtiers descended from the original founders of the World Government. I doubt next weeks chapter will give us much more information on the Void Century, Oda's thrown us our bone, and I don't think he's gonna pull a huge revelation now. I doubt Hatchan, Caimie, and Pappug know much more then what Pappug told us this week anyway.
I think next week will start off with a bit more information, then they'll go to the coater Hatchan knows. Then I expect the Straw Hats to be taken by kidnappers. Nami and Robin also will run afoul of kidnappers or World Nobles. And Zoro... will make his way to Grove 1 later. And I'm assuming that Grove 1 is where the World Nobles stay, and that that's where the other Straw Hats will be taken. And then the Straw Hats will break the hold the World Nobles have on the Shabondy Archipelago and go on their merry way to Fishman Island. I'm also predicting that Caimie's quietness and inability to ride the Ferris Wheel stem from an encounter with World Nobles in the past. Maybe she cut one on the line to ride the Ferris Wheel...
^^Agree so much with that, I doubt we'll have a huge epic fight, but as much as I'm against Camie joining, it looks like she may, Robin suggested that she had a bad history there, and we could get a flashback, nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I think I'm looking too deep into it, GREAT CHAPTER, SO MUCH INFO AND IT'S NICE SEE THE SH'S HAVE FUN FOR A CHANGE, and Brooke has a tongue:blink:, also, those nobles are gonna get they asses KICKED! OH, and NOBODY IS SCARED OF BROOKE, WEIRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
@Fire Fist:
I think you're looking too much into it. Really, it's probably just simple racism. Let's look at the facts:
1. Hatchi asks that he and Caimie be referred to as humans.
2. They've disguised their appearance as such.
3. Gyojin Island is directly below Marijoie, as if they built it on top of them to add insult.
4. The only non-pirate Gyojin we've seen thus far is Tom, and he was treated like garbage by Water 7 except for Kokoro, Franky, and Iceburg.
5. Kokoro had to disguise her appearance in order to fit in at Water 7.
6. Arlong considered the Gyojin superior without explaining his motives. Some have conjectured it might be out of jealousy.To me, this adds up to a lot of racism and prejudice in the One Piece world. Caimie MAY be a special case, as you're suggesting, with a little more to her story, but in general, I think it's just racism.
I think you might be right, the Fishmen we seen so far have mostly been treated like sh*t, I wonder if people in One Piece has problems with Mermiads and Fishmen!
Oops Oda did it again! Great great chapter it's amazing how much detail and things he can prop in one chapter and really this archipellago is a great idea.
I am very happy to see that he still has a wonderfull imagination, I can't figure how fishman island will be.
Other details: -hachi covering his tattoo –> it had nothing to do with his human disguise : So there must be a movement or something fishmen adhere to (because the macro fishmen had this tatoo too) and members of that movement become automatically pirates.
-maybe it is forbidden for fishmen/mermen to come to the shabondy arch..
-Ax-guy : 100% a bounty hunter : only bounty hunters have a bunch of wanted papers like that. And we still have to meet a serious bounty hunter in OP , I think this is the perfect occasion to introduce one and make him follow the strawhats into the new world, a little bit like with smoker.
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Anyone have a better quality of this page?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/142/06/
Near the back, on the right side, does that look like Saint Benard?
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Robin hinted Camie as crew member :O!
She has maybe a "bad story" about the Shabondy Islands
No…she didn't...she just alluded to the fact that non-humans probably were being discriminated against, like Hatchi did with his vague comments and requests to refer to him and Cammie as humans and their clothes
-Ax-guy : 100% a bounty hunter : only bounty hunters have a bunch of wanted papers like that. And we still have to meet a serious bounty hunter in OP , I think this is the perfect occasion to introduce one and make him follow the strawhats into the new world, a little bit like with smoker.
I hope he is kizero. The hat is similar.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/319/04/
Luffy will probably accidentally sink the archipelago, then he would have to make it up for that by raiding Marioeja.
As it stands, the axe-man could be either a bounty hunter or Kizaru. Besides the hat, the bounty poster could be another Kizaru hint: remember that Aokiji had Luffy's bounty poster when he headed towards where they were, so its not like the admirals aren't unprepared of what they would find in an area where pirates go.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/303/19/
Personally with the talk of admirals being summoned on short notice by the nobles (and how long its been since we first met Aokiji so another fully revealed admiral is overdue), I think it would be cool that this would be him. But I'm fine with it being a mere powerful bounty hunter.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
The Shabondy Archipelago seems to be based off of Renaissance Italy (or Medieval Italy, I'm not sure). The style of architecture fits, as do the names of the people and food. And if I remember correctly, Italian nobility didn't like to associate with commoners much, going so far as to wear masks so as not to breathe the same air as lesser beings, building separate roads for nobles, etc. This is probably another connection to Skypiea, since the themes of Skypiea are very reminiscent of the political climate in Renaissance Italy, with some names even being taken from there. It's nice to see that Oda is making parallels to Skypiea without this arc feeling at all repetitive.
As to predictions for the future… I don't know. The World Nobles aren't what I expected. Courtiers, yes, but not courtiers descended from the original founders of the World Government. I doubt next weeks chapter will give us much more information on the Void Century, Oda's thrown us our bone, and I don't think he's gonna pull a huge revelation now. I doubt Hatchan, Caimie, and Pappug know much more then what Pappug told us this week anyway.
I think next week will start off with a bit more information, then they'll go to the coater Hatchan knows. Then I expect the Straw Hats to be taken by kidnappers. Nami and Robin also will run afoul of kidnappers or World Nobles. And Zoro... will make his way to Grove 1 later. And I'm assuming that Grove 1 is where the World Nobles stay, and that that's where the other Straw Hats will be taken. And then the Straw Hats will break the hold the World Nobles have on the Shabondy Archipelago and go on their merry way to Fishman Island. I'm also predicting that Caimie's quietness and inability to ride the Ferris Wheel stem from an encounter with World Nobles in the past. Maybe she cut one on the line to ride the Ferris Wheel...
Was not Water 7 Italized enough? It was totaly based on Vanice.
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I really hope that axe-guy is a bounty-hunter. I can't remember that there was a real one before, and since Hachi mentioned there would be many strong ones on Shabindy … i'm pretty sure he is a bounty hunter!
That thing Robin said about Camie got me a bit into that "Camie´-will join"-thing. She seems to have Flashback-Material, maybe she was always discriminated and wished to be a human??
Personaly,Id hope for more of an interesting facial design.Though we dont see much,he looks kinda plain.Does he even have a "cowboy"-esque hat?
@joekido:
Was not Water 7 Italized enough? It was totaly based on Vanice.
Yes, yes it was. That was even confirmed in an SBS, if I remember correctly. That doesn't mean that the Shabondy Archipelago wasn't, though. Again, the names of the food and people sound Italian, and I'm pretty sure that the masks were a trait of Italian nobility.
Yes, yes it was. That was even confirmed in an SBS, if I remember correctly. That doesn't mean that the Shabondy Archipelago wasn't, though. Again, the names of the food and people sound Italian, and I'm pretty sure that the masks were a trait of Italian nobility.
For the record, why are we calling them masks? They're helmets, much like divers used before scuba gear or Astronauts use. In ADDITION to the helmet, the girl is wearing a face mask or shawl over her face.
It'd be a little over the top, but I could imagine them having marine body guards in huge diving suits follow them, like the Big Daddys from Bioshock. Would be pretty awesome.
Camie seems more like a new Vivi…
@Fire Fist:
That's why I think it's exclusive to those in Jimbei's crew.
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if the entire group actually started as some sort of resistance movement IF we're really spot on with the entire racist-slavery idea.
Anyone have a better quality of this page?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/142/06/
Near the back, on the right side, does that look like Saint Benard?
Hm, who or what is Saint Benard?
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if the entire group actually started as some sort of resistance movement IF we're really spot on with the entire racist-slavery idea.
Hm, who or what is Saint Benard?
I meant St. Roswald, the Noble from this chapter. Bernard is a typo.
You mean the guy who appears to have the same hairdo? If yes, then it doesn´t look like it's him. I just checked my 5th Log and it appears that what looks like to be his hair in the link above is really just some sort of weird hat. So going by that it's not him.
Also, it's not even sure if these world royals are actually kings anywhere now. Just because their ancestors where it doesn't mean that they are. I mean if a king has more then one kid then only the first born can inherit the throne. And I think that in 800 years a lot of second, third and whatsoever borns were born and remained royal but not kings. Just a thought since that pic refers to the Council of Kings.
Nah, Saint Bernard seems more fitting, given his character.
And now we know why Arlong was like he was
It seems Mermaids are a good sale for Bounty hunters (like the ones that helped Duval said ) that's probably one of the reasons why Caimie his hiding the fact that she's a mermaid (those Nobles probably would want to buy her was a slave)
I'm starting to think Jimbei will be a friend and not a foe of the strawhats
Also the Princess of Mermaids I don't know but I have this weird feeling that she will be like Kokoro
Maybe one of the Nobles will want Chopper was a slave and Luffy will have to show them what's it like to bite the dust
And I'm thinking Oda will give us more about the old Kingdom and the D's in this arc
Betting the Axe guy is some kind of bounty hunter who will certainly meet our dear 120 million berri green haired favourit.
I enjoyed this chapter very much, this island or should I say island or actually trees look like so much fun and its once again a very creative one. Bubbles for everything.
And obviously fishmen are not welcome there, dont know why yet. But Caimie hiding her tail and Hacchi hiding his tattoo (there obviously is no "wound" there) makes one wonder why.
In which page that Axe guy appears. I completely missed it
