Chapter 497 "Adventure on the Islands of the Dancing Bubbles" Discussion

Strongbad456

Another aspect that leads me to doubt that Robin is talking about Keimi's own history with the island is the usage of the word "rekishi".

歴史　"rekishi" is generally used for "history" as in "world history" or history going back several generations. It is not used for describing an individual person's history (way too short). Instead, 過去 "kako" ("past") would be used if Robin had been talking about Keimi's own past/history with the island.

And, yeah, my prior thought that Robin was referring to the WG Founders seems off-base the more I think about it. Most likely it's about mermaid oppression or some such.

Oh, and I don't really care how I spell Keimi's name as long as it's close enough in pronunciation, so I just follow whoever I'm quoting.

I see. Well, you know more about it than I do so I'll take your word on it she most likely wasn't refering to Keimi. And if you were talking to me, I don't care how you spell her name. I spell it Keimi because it's how I want to spell it but anyone can spell it however they want.

Kibagami

I'm calling bounty hunter on this arc. There's gonna be no admirals fought on Shabondy. Instead, we'll see a super strong bounty hunter (that axe guy).

Hachi said that all the marines there are strong, but there are lots of extremely strong bounty hunters and kidnappers too. Since we've already seen some kidnappers, and had plenty of marines to fight, it would be a nice change to see a STRONG bounty hunter for a change. The last ones we saw were in the Baroque Works, but really they were just Croc's assasins.

windtriforce

Awesome chapter. My favorite parts were when Luffy got the "bubble-bike" and when Zoro got the wrong number to the grove. Also, I wonder who the guy with the axe is. Maybe some bounty hunter or pirate? Anyway, can't wait for the next chapter.

Ivotas

I can't believe that people make that much of a deal out of Robin's statement about Camie. Of course Robin comments on Camie only because a) she's the only one missing on a women shopping tour and b) seeing how Robin herself had a bad history her interprets it to make sense within her thinking pattern.

Making up a background exclusive to Camie just because of that statement is ridiculous especially since Hachi's statement about not wanting to become outed as fishman.

Nuzzie

I'm predicting that Papagg is actually Camies child from being raped by one of the nobles.

Greg

And an awkward silence wafts through the board.

Nuzzie

I should hope so as the my seriousness demands it.

VL7

Grilled Mermaid with egg and cream sauce is considered a speciality among them Nobles…..

Neomaster121

don't fish lay eggs which r then fertilied by the male fish so it would be impossible to rape camie

Gorlom

As long as something has an orifice it can technically be violated… she just won't be impregnated.

BartholomewKuma

@Neomaster121:

don't fish lay eggs which r then fertilied by the male fish so it would be impossible to rape camie

It is possible to rape her ass because she can poop.

Mog

@BartholomewKuma:

It is possible to rape her ass because she can poop.

Arlong Park, ladies and gentlemen.

Lobolover

@Gorlom:

… wasn't all of the monster trio caught (before anyone else) by Moria?

It's not really impossible to catch them. (and even without spidermice they have exploiteble weaknesses, food women and ... someone giving zoro rightdirections)

fixed .

BetterBetterNoMi

Well actually somehow you are able to rape her I guess, because If wego by Chimney-Kokoro a mermaid/man can make children with a human.

OP wonders

VL7

I suppose her tail needs to split first

whaleblue

@BetterBetterNoMi:

Well actually somehow you are able to rape her I guess, because If wego by Chimney-Kokoro a mermaid/man can make children with a human.

OP wonders

You guys try to touch the bottom line of PG-13 rate??

Gorlom

@Lobolover:

fixed .

… what exactly did you fix? how does giving zoro the right directions help kidnapp him?

or are you saying he would just be as lost anyway?

KaiPirinha

@Nuzzie:

I'm predicting that Papagg is actually Camies child from being raped by one of the nobles.

I predict that Papagg is actually a dwarf dressed like a starfish

tigerlilly

this thread scares the shit out of me, everbody hold your pants tight, it´s anal rape time!
and the chapter itself is not any better… looks like oda watched Battle Royal in his spare time ... XD

Lobolover

gorlom-of COURSE he would get lost with RIGHT directions (going up the sairs in front-going to a door on the right side of the botom floor) ,if he were given WRONG directions,chances are he WOULDNT.

Gaiyae

My guess is that Zoro probably will become either a slave or he will atack one of the nobles. Simply because he doesn't know about the nobles.

Ivotas

@Gaiyae:

My guess is that Zoro probably will become either a slave or he will atack one of the nobles. Simply because he doesn't know about the nobles.

How so? Page 19 of chapter 496 has him standing next to Luffy when Hachi explains not to mess with them.

Neomaster121

i think he meant when he said Zoro doesn't know about the nobles as in he wouldn't know who they were by just looking at them
i've been thinking the same ever since i read this chapter

Ivotas

Ah, well that makes sense then.

Lobolover

hell probably say something tactless about their space bulbs.

Xaravir

I don't think Zoro can restrain his blood-lust for battle when meeting a noble. You know he's going to do something without someone's deterrent. Zoro getting captured is unlikely, in my opinion.

AlmostLegendary

this was a good chapter

sgamer82

@Xaravir:

I don't think Zoro can restrain his blood-lust for battle when meeting a noble. You know he's going to do something without someone's deterrent. Zoro getting captured is unlikely, in my opinion.

I'm thinking we'll actually end up in a situation just like the one we first met him in. He attacks/offends someone of high rank, and surrenders at least in part because others are threatened if he does no comply.

Greg

Point goes to sgamer82.

sgamer82

@Greg:

Point goes to sgamer82.

I can't tell if that's serious and I've got a good guess or sarcastic because it was mentioned in the thread earlier and I didn't see/read it.

Greg

It's an excellent point.

sgamer82

@Greg:

It's an excellent point.

OK. Thanks. I mostly think that because we've been getting so many parallels/refer-backs throughout Duval and Shabondie. The Celestial Dragons are near-perfect equivalents to Helmeppo & Morgan's ways of thinking. Plus, It'd make for a bit of "Full Circle" feel to me. First story arc of the manga he's tied up, last story arc of the Grand Line he's tied up.

Kingoffans

I think you're looking too deeply into things

brennen.exe

Before I start: This is not a "New Crew Member!!" sjdassaszomgasbbq

As the story progresses we see more weapons, more fighters, more fighting styles. So far a majority (arguably all) of the characters have a very unique fighting style ~~ so I wonder if this axe character does debut a fight (with whom, who knows) what type of fighting style and strength he will display.

I mean Axe Hand Morgan was more or less a joke in terms of a fight, so I would love to see Oda's version of a skilled axe handler (unless one in Skypiea or something escapes me). And I will admit that my first impression was that it would be sweet to have another badass power character in the crew (with an axe at that!!), but at the least I would hope Oda gives a sweet battle showing us his computer-hack– urr, axe-handling skills.

But I do not want to throw too much speculation into a silhouette.

Burglar Cat

This is gonna be the best arc ever! Not that i like people going be murdered, but when was the last time that we saw something like this in One Piece?! Oda kinda implied it in the last chapter, but never have i expected it to happen. One of the world nobles kills somebody without any reason in front of us.

One of the villains say, that he have a pirate captain collection. Sure, Luffy will become a target. He would probably be a cool addition! Hmm, maybe the conection to Duval will be exploited, since one of the strawhats is in the slave market.

My first impression about that man with the shadow is, that he could be a bounty hunter. Will see….

Greg

I think you're looking too deeply into things

Said many posters of Ubiq when he predicted Mariejoa's location since the time this board has been in existence.

Not that i like people going be murdered, but when was the last time that we saw something like this in One Piece?! Oda kinda implied it in the last chapter, but never have i expected it to happen. One of the world nobles kills somebody without any reason in front of us.

He's not dead. At least he wasn't dead at the scene, given the speculation about whether he can be 'saved' or not. And if he didn't die on screen, well, you know Oda's track record.

Kefky

That actually made me smile. Dude gets blown up, kicked, shot at, and he still might live. That's Oda for ya, ever the optimist.

CLERICSHADOW

Does anyone besides me think the guy with the giant axe like weapon could be one of the admirals? Sorry I'm late on this subject if it was brought up…I just read the chapter..

The shadows look the same as the yellow monkey...a little

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Greg

Does anyone besides me think the guy with the giant axe like weapon could be one of the admirals? Sorry I'm late on this subject if it was brought up…I just read the chapter..

Interesting prediction! Yeah I have a feeling he might be someone I forget about if Oda decides to bring him in at a later time.

Kefky

I immediately pinned him as a bounty hunter, for some reason.

Herackles

wow, at first i assumed he was just another noble and didn't think much of him, but now that i think about it he could be anything.

Kefky

Don't see why a noble would be sneaking around in the dark with a shotgun, and studying pirates.

Lifrit

Kefky are you talking about the guy with the axe?

I did not see anyone with a shotgun.

But if we are talking about the guy with the axe, I agree is not a noble but he’s not so much “sneaking around in the dark”, actually he is in plain view. He is sitting on a roof top. Oda just did want to show him yet. But there are things that you can assume about him.

1.Not a Tenryuubito (no helmet)
2.Not afraid to be spotted (sitting on the roof)
3.Is a combatant (has a weapon)
4.Is someone that has information (knows about the pirate and bounty and knows about the new world)
5.Is pictured by himself

I’m not going to call anything yet but I don’t think he is a pirate because of points 2 and 5.

Gorlom

Lifrit: What do you mean by "5.Is pictured by himself" ?

Herackles

@Kefky:

Don't see why a noble would be sneaking around in the dark with a shotgun, and studying pirates.

when the real nobles arrived and I just forgot about him til now.

Also Hacchi covering the sun symbol on his forehead (probably Jinbei's, cos the Arlong pirates had it too) with a bandage was a nice touch by Oda.

brennen.exe

@Gorlom:

Lifrit: What do you mean by "5. Is pictured by himself"?

He means he is sitting by himself – so likely no crew is with him.

The papers he has and the way he talks about Captain Exploded-Face suggests that he is indeed a bounty hunter. And to agree with someone else, it has been a while since we had bounty hunters as enemies ~~ would be a nice change. In addition, I doubt an admiral would be chilling on a roof top discussing whether or not pirates would make it in the New World, since I would assume he doesn't want them around PERIOD, let alone 'making it in the New World'.

Other stuff. This and that. Noone reads my posts anyways...

Lifrit

Yeah what brennen said.

It’s not a great point by any means but when we see Buggy and Alvid for the first time is a lot different than how we meet Aokiji (solo silhouette). Actually the only pirate I recall meeting without a crew for the first time was Jango. But now I’m just making stuff up to support a point that I didn’t care for in the first place.

Greg

Hmmm, this is a point I've just come to accept as 'normal' so I didn't even think of bringing it up but…

In Japan, small-time yakuza or, more commonly, regular people with smallish tattoos cover them up with band-aids or other skin-colored patches when they visit places like water parks or onsen. Tattoos are strictly prohibitted in many 'legit' parts of Japan in order to discourage yakuza from frequenting the premises.

Herackles

@Greg:

Hmmm, this is a point I've just come to accept as 'normal' so I didn't even think of bringing it up but…

In Japan, small-time yakuza or, more commonly, regular people with smallish tattoos cover them up with band-aids or other skin-colored patches when they visit places like water parks or onsen. Tattoos are strictly prohibitted in many 'legit' parts of Japan in order to discourage yakuza from frequenting the premises.

ah I see. thats makes the bandage seem less important. thanks for clearing that up anyway

Ivotas

@Kefky:

I immediately pinned him as a bounty hunter, for some reason.

Me too. Probably because of what I take to be wanted posters in his hand. If he's not a bounty hunter then my second guess would be that he's a kidnapper. Anything else then those to options would surprise me.