Well, I know everyone's gotten accustomed to Toei's style of animation for One Piece, but after receiving the tape of the OVA, I checked it for quality, and since I wasn't paying attention to the subs, I payed better attention to the animation quality. Now, I know it was partially because they only had to do one, and not one a week, but I think that the light-colored, more crisp animation really did wonders for the story, so here's the question: Who would you rather have animating One Piece? Production I.G. or Toei Animation?
Who would you rather owned One Piece?
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Toei, for reasons you pretty much summed up yourself. The other company's animation propably wouldn't look as good as it did in the OVA if they had to animate one episode every week for over 10 years. Besides, Toei is the only company I've seen who has actually produced a series this long and still managed to keep it faithful to the manga without it being reduced to a dragged-out piece of crap. (Fine, some episodes are a bit dragged-out, but they handle it far better than say, Pierrot does.)
Also, I've never really had a problem with the animation-style. Sure, it's not exactly pretty, but it works, and it's pretty faithful to Oda's artwork if you ask me. Not to mention that Kouhei Tanaka's music is great. So yeah, I wouldn't want One Piece in the hands of any other company. -
Funimation doesnt have an animation department…
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@Ao:
Funimation doesnt have an animation department…
I knew someone would say that…
And yeah. But I'd actually rather have the whole series animated Movie 6 style. Damn, I liked that.
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wtf? Funi doesn't animate.. :s
Anyway.. ehhh Toei is fine when the budget is up. And Studio Periot is about the same, if a tad bit more upscale. But then agan they are pretty lazy at times *hint hint
But in all honesty I would love it if GONZO animated One Piece
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@Lobster:
wtf? Funi doesn't animate.. :s
Anyway.. ehhh Toei is fine when the budget is up. And Studio Periot is about the same, if a tad bit more upscale. But then agan they are pretty lazy at times *hint hint
But in all honesty I would love it if GONZO animated One Piece
Jeez, can no one take a joke!? I always like a joke option for those who don't care.
And wow. Gonzo One Piece. Runs off to draw fanart
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gonzo…those guys will make 400 chapters of one piece into 26 episodes
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gonzo…those guys will make 400 chapters of one piece into 26 episodes
26 BEAUTIFUL episodes
nah, with One Piece's length, I'd say around 54
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the Ova looked more rigorous to me.Kinda-stale.Good short,but thats what I mean.
so Ill go with the curent holder.
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I almost inclined to say NAS but with Eyeshield 21…....
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Which OVA are you guys talking about? The one where Robin sings?
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I voted Toei Animation.
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Honestly, that ova by Production IG was a insult to One Piece.
It just ruined Oda's artstyle and made it look completely generic. I would never follow the anime if it looked like that.
Let alone the bad voice acting and poor choice of VA's.Anyway, i doubt the anime would last long with IG. Thank God Toei got it.
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Toei's not that great with One Piece as they were with DragonBall.
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@Sandai:
Toei's not that great with One Piece as they were with DragonBall.
Well, Dragonball was amazing for its time indeed. The vast majority of productions from the 80's seems much more outdated these days than DB.
But i don't know, each five or so episodes it had one especially bad animation team* and the pacing is easily better in OP, without those random fillers like "Ginyu changes body with Bulma".- this one:
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It doesn't really seem to be much wrong in the 2nd pic.
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@Lobster:
Which OVA are you guys talking about? The one where Robin sings?
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@Sandai:
It doesn't really seem to be much wrong in the 2nd pic.
Seriously? Even the hair was poorly done, compare with Goku and Trunks by the best animation team:
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But yeah, the quality difference is much higher in motion.
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Nope the only one that looked off was the Gohan pic because the animator couldn't decide on whether he wanted to draw Gohan with SS1 or SS2
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Actually, I thought that the crisp animation of the OVA would've done justice to the OP series, I like the more bright, non-blurred movement appeal for One Piece. But I do agree about the VA's, the only one I really liked was probably Zoro. Of the crew. I liked Ganzack's.
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Whoops, I misunderstood the question and voted FUNi. My real answer is Toei.
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Toei I guess, Production I.G. normally does short stuff so I'm sure the novelty would wear off after around 100+ episodes.
@Lobster: The one with Robin singing was a TV Special not an OVA.
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Yea, I just looked it up and watched it a bit.
The animation's interesting. It's almost like a cross between movie 2 and Astroboy.
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Toei, no other animation company could've done One Piece and Oda such justice.
If Pierrot would've gotten it, it probably would've suffered the same filler hell Naruto got.
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So, let's see here:
P. I.G. - Short stuff.
FUNimation - Doesn't animate.Yeah, this topic is basically "Would you like someone other than Toei animate One Piece?" which lobster already kinda did, and that burned.
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So, let's see here:
P. I.G. - Short stuff.
FUNimation - Doesn't animate.Yeah, this topic is basically "Would you like someone other than Toei animate One Piece?" which lobster already kinda did, and that burned.
Burned?
More like.. "Transcended into the Heavens" @DarkShinobi:
Toei, no other animation company could've done One Piece and Oda such justice.
lawl
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Toei, no other animation company could've done One Piece and Oda such justice.
If Pierrot would've gotten it, it probably would've suffered the same filler hell Naruto got.
Yea but One Piece still got Apis,Rainbow mist, and all that other shit that fans aren't too thrilled about.
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@Sandai:
Yea but One Piece still got Apis,Rainbow mist, and all that other shit that fans aren't too thrilled about.
Yeah, but those are all fairly short, not to mention that there haven't exactly been that many filler-arcs in OP, and what little there is was necessary to keep the manga ahead of the anime, unlike Pierrot, who did 80 episodes of fillers, and then proceeded to drag out Shippuuden even more than they did in the first Naruto-anime, and what's more, they're now doing MORE FILLERS, despite still being OVER 80 CHAPTERS behind the manga. I don't know about you, but I'm definitely glad that we don't have to go through something like that.
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Gonzo usually hates filler.
Studio Pierrot is a bit like Toei. Both huge companies that produce huge amounts of filler. Perhaps Pierrot may be a "tad" more upscale, and smaller (probably because it takes on less projects), but still it's pretty darn close. Being a big company isn't completely bad though. It also means that Toei has a lot of resources for when the time counts.
Which is good too.
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Gonzo hates filler? I haven't seen an anime adaption from them which wasn't full of filler and ended in it.
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Really? Most of their series I've seen have been relatively short, and completely canon material.
Like Kiddy Grade or Afro Samurai
The Hellsing anime was mostly filler though (the 2nd half), but the OVA's are 100% canon.
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Hellsing ovas are not Gonzo's.
Apparently Gonzo hates mangas and think they can be better than any manga author, changing and ruining most of the series they put their hands on. -
Hellsing ovas are not Gonzo's.
Really? Well the TV series was
Apparently Gonzo hates mangas and think they can be better than any manga author, changing and ruining most of the series they put their hands on.
Mmm (researches) Well what about Project Gi? They did Fooly Cooly and Cromarte Highschool
BTW I never voted. In the list I choose Toei for One Piece.
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@Lobster:
Really? Well the TV series was
If I recall correctly Hirano was apparently angry at how Gonzo handled the original series which would wind up giving rise to the OVA, but all in all he has no one to blame but himself for how bad the anime turned out.
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@Sandai:
If I recall correctly Hirano was apparently angry at how Gonzo handled the original series which would wind up giving rise to the OVA, but all in all he has no one to blame but himself for how bad the anime turned out.
Well, I thought it was the best thing ever.. until I watched the OVA. And then it seemed like trash in comparison.
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Toei for me as well.
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@Lobster:
Well, I thought it was the best thing ever.. until I watched the OVA. And then it seemed like trash in comparison.
I knew the anime was shit once Incognito came into the picture, found out about scanlations and that was it.
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I wonder how Pierrot would do with Japan's number 1 Manga.
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Years' worth of filler.
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This is a really silly poll! Two animation companies and …. Funimation? They can't do much other than dub and distribute. Why not choose from the mass of amazing studios out there?
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BONES (RahXephon, Xam'd, Scrapped Princess) or Madhouse (Chobits, Hunter x Hunter, Trigun). I like Toei just fine though.
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I wonder how Pierrot would do with Japan's number 1 Manga.
Better animation and more filler arcs.
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Honestly, I'd take anything else over Toei. Be it Production I.G., Bones or Pierrot. I just hate what Toei turned the show into.
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@Mikey:
Honestly, I'd take anything else over Toei. Be it Production I.G., Bones or Pierrot. I just hate what Toei turned the show into.
In my opinion, Toei actually did a pretty good job adapting One Piece from East Blue to Ennis. It had rather consistent pacing (I know some part in Skypeia got laggy but for the most part it was pretty decent), consistent art/animation, and it really felt like something special.
However, after they moved the show from primetime to Sunday mornings, Toei made drastic changes to the show that were not for the better. The show really began to slow down pacing wise and the art and animation was pretty much all over the place from week to week. Also, some censorship of elements in the manga began to take place at this point (not to the point of Toriko censoring though, thank goodness).
Ennis lobby actually wasn't that bad paced, once you skipped past the long recap, same for Thriller Bark too. I'd say the last decent paced arc Toei adapted was the First Sabondy Arc, and then everything after the Strawhat's separation until now has slowed down to a grinding halt. I could barely watch Impel Down or Marineford just because it so slow and boring. That's when Toei started doing half-chapters, which try all they might, should not and doesn't consistute a 22 minute episode.
I thought that there was a glimmer of hope once we reached the time skip, when they start doing like a chapter a quarter episode, but once they started on Fishman island, it was just as slow as Impel Down.
I know people claim they don't like them, but the only thing that's going to get the anime out of its rut it's currently in, is making some decently large filler arcs. Like 13-26 episodes ones that would give time for the manga to get ahead, still allow Toei to cash in on One Piece by stretching it out, and allow for some decently-paced cannon episodes. Ratings shouldn't be an issue, because I can recall, many of the One Piece filler arcs Toei did received high ratings than some of the cannon stuff. I guess they think filler in the middle of the cannon stuff is better than complete filler, and that is a load of bs. Seriously, some of that Hancock and Buggy crap really took away from the powerful stuff that was happening at the time.
Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to share my thoughts.
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@Mikey:
Honestly, I'd take anything else over Toei. Be it Production I.G., Bones or Pierrot. I just hate what Toei turned the show into.
To be honest I'm not so sure that we'd be better off with a different animation studio. "One Piece" is still a long-running series based on a long-running mainstream manga that can be fed to the masses. We'd probably still have to deal with spreading a budget over hundreds of episodes and thus get animation that isn't always top-notch and consistent. I mean I haven't watched a whole lot of "Fairy Tail", but I heard it's a series that has inconsistent animation quality and is made by a studio with a good track record.
The only real deal-breaker at this point, at least to me who's someone who watches new episodes every week, is the whole chapter-per-episode thing. At least there was no filler between the time-skip.
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I hope they have filler between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard. I would rather have buffers than horrible pacing.
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The only real deal-breaker at this point, at least to me who's someone who watches new episodes every week, is the whole chapter-per-episode thing. At least there was no filler between the time-skip.
That's what I mean. I really used to enjoy the show, but ever since Marineford (save the Luffy/Ace/Sabo stuff) the show just became unwatchable. That's what Toei turned it into, and I really, really hate it.
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Anyone is better then Toei at this point One Piece makes them huge amounts of money and they rarley if ever give it good animation and the pacing is fucking terrible.
Let Studio Pierrot have One Piece they would give it the treatment it deserves.
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Why is Funimation even an option? They have the Midas touch of shit.
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@Mikey:
That's what I mean. I really used to enjoy the show, but ever since Marineford (save the Luffy/Ace/Sabo stuff) the show just became unwatchable. That's what Toei turned it into, and I really, really hate it.
Mikey, as a anime watcher and a manga reader, I must ask.
If you really hate the way the anime is going, why don't you just quit following it?
The pacing's been like this since Enies Lobby. There's no chance it's going to change anytime soon.Anyone is better then Toei at this point One Piece makes them huge amounts of money and they rarley if ever give it good animation and the pacing is fucking terrible.
Let Studio Pierrot have One Piece they would give it the treatment it deserves.
I really think you should read Firecrouch's post.