I encourage you to stop watching the the dub. You know there are going to suck it over and over with no end in sight. Why bother watching the dub? Let's wait untie the uncut DVD comes out. I encourage you, watching it olny boast th rating; go to differant messageboard and encourage everybody to stop watching to dub so there rating would hit the rock-bottem and stay their untie 4kids cancel it.
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i am confused now what do you mean with "dub"?the anime episode raws?
if yes:these are cut?and what uncut dvds do you mean?the japanese, the engish or other ones? -
Originally posted by Günther@May 21 2005, 11:15 AM
i am confused now what do you mean with "dub"?the anime episode raws?
if yes:these are cut?and what uncut dvds do you mean?the japanese, the engish or other ones?
[snapback]52979[/snapback]The dub; the anime we wacth every saturaday morning on T.V. dubbed by 4kids.
Uncut and unedit and subtitled One Piece DVD is a One Piece without what we watch on Saturaday mornings
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I would, but I just want to see how much worse it will get. I feel ashamed though right now for what they've done. I see this topic getting locked soon.
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Originally posted by joekido the Second+May 21 2005, 12:20 PM–>QUOTE(joekido the Second @ May 21 2005, 12:20 PM)
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They won't make uncut dvd's unless the dub gets popular. So not watching it is a bad idea if you want uncut dvd's. The only thing that will do is cancal the show and not having One Piece dubbed ever again. If it flops with 4kids, other companies will acknowledge the fact that it failed, so they won't want to to get rights for it. And even through the dub more One Piece fans are born everyday. They may not see the TRUE One Piece, but regardless of what they see they still become fans. My freinds only have seen the dubbed version and they've said it's a good show. So even with a dub as bad as this one, One Piece is still gaining popularity. It may not gain the level of Pokemon or Yugioh popularity (what would these days?) But even so it still will be a show that gets good ratings. My point is, if you want uncut dvd's… the dub's gotta get more popular.
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I encourage you to stop watching the the dub.
What, and miss out on a good laugh?
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Sorry Joekido, but my morbid curiosity can't allow that.
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Taboo, that "good laugh" carries the burden of thousands of horrible moments.
My mind is about to commit seppuku if I continute looking at it…
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Originally posted by joekido the Second@May 21 2005, 01:06 PM
watching it olny boast th rating
[snapback]52974[/snapback]But it's one of the LOWEST rated shows on Saturday mornings (from what I hear).
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watching it olny boast th rating;
Only if you have a Nielsens box.
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Originally posted by Solar Knight+May 21 2005, 01:24 PM–>QUOTE(Solar Knight @ May 21 2005, 01:24 PM)
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Guess because the story is getting more interesting for the kiddies :lol: .
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 21 2005, 01:29 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 21 2005, 01:29 PM) _> Originally posted by Solar Knight@May 21 2005, 01:24 PM
watching it olny boast th rating
[snapback]52974[/snapback]
But it's one of the LOWEST rated shows on Saturday mornings (from what I hear).
[snapback]53027[/snapback]It was. But now it's getting decent ratings on 4Kids tv, and good ratings on Toonami.
[snapback]53033[/snapback]One Piece is not getting good ratings.
Its got bad ratings on Toonami and bad ratings on 4K!ds TV.
One Piece is heading in the direction of Cubix.
4K!ds dumped Cubix and, hopefully, they will dump One Piece soon. VERY soon.
I don't want there "uncut" dvds, if they are anything like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King.
They were both edited, Westernized, and changed. And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales.
Joekido is right, follow his actions and stop watching 4K!ds One Piece NOW.
If you really like One Piece, you will. Sink its ratings even lower!!! :)_ -
Originally posted by Viz Hater+May 21 2005, 02:18 PM–>QUOTE(Viz Hater @ May 21 2005, 02:18 PM) _> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 21 2005, 01:29 PM
**> Originally posted by Solar Knight@May 21 2005, 01:24 PM
watching it olny boast th rating
[snapback]52974[/snapback]
But it's one of the LOWEST rated shows on Saturday mornings (from what I hear).
[snapback]53027[/snapback]It was. But now it's getting decent ratings on 4Kids tv, and good ratings on Toonami.
[snapback]53033[/snapback]**One Piece is not getting good ratings.
Bad ratings on Toonami and bad ratings on 4K!ds TV.
One Piece is heading in the direction of Cubix.
4K!ds dumped Cubix and, hopefully, they will dump One Piece soon. VERY soon.
I don't want there "uncut" dvds, if they are anything like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King.
They were both edited, Westernized, and changed. And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales.
[snapback]53070[/snapback]Viz hater is that really true, or do you WANT it to have bad ratings. I forgot what website I got my info, but it stated that it is doing very well on Toonami. Remember the kids who watch the show don't know squat about the japanese version so nothing can seem off to them. People like you try to convince themselves something that is not true. Face it Viz! 4Kids is proboally gonna keep One Piece. So I'd stop fooling myself and others._
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Even if they've never seen the sub, I'm suprised ALOT of them continued watching after they heard Usopps voice… It's like ANNOYING 2 DA MAXXX
or something, A Dying cat could make a better sound than that voice.Klarahdol? I can't bring myself to watch one piece dub anyway lol
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I wish the dub would get canceled.
Yes, I want it to fail.
And theres nothing wrong with that.I loved DBZ's dub, I really did. I loved it to pieces.
Don't think of me as some elite who has connections to Japan.
I come through the same way as all the kids your talking about.But I know bastadization when I see it.
But don't think of me as some obsessive loser.
Truth is, I've loved comics since 1rst grade.
Calvin and Hobbes
The Far Side
TinTin
For Better or Worse
Star Wars comics
DBZ manga
Akira manga
One Piece manga
Naausica of the Valley of Wind mangathe order of impact on me from 1rst grade till now.
All still beloved.I'm not some idle fan. I'm a comics man. I'm bred on them, and I have great plans for my own.
Revolutionairy, I like to think.I both loving and a part of this art.
Cancelation is what this dub deserves. Its just another product of artless big entertainment industries.
Music is already controlled by them. Its the sellouts who hit big. Imported arts face even worse though. Exploitation.I wonder how long it will be for OUR TV shows and comics to fall under control of guys like Kahn. Not long sadly…
So if anything. The exploited version of a great series FAILING...
Man, thats like a glimmer of hope.
It shows that the exploitation will only self-destruct if the arts become ignored.
If it does, maybe Kahn will learn a lesson.
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Originally posted by Viz Hater@May 21 2005, 03:18 PM
Joekido is right, follow his actions and stop watching 4K!ds One Piece NOW.
If you really like One Piece, you will. Sink its ratings even lower!!!
And let Eiichiro Oda rejoice!!!
[snapback]53070[/snapback]What would Oda have to rejoice about?
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Oda dosen't care, Don't take it THERE Vizhater.
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Originally posted by Günther@May 21 2005, 06:34 PM
**its not getting better."T.V. dubbed by 4kids" what?
are the episode raws cut or uncut?
and which dvds are uncut?the english ones?the japanese ones?i never watched one piece on saturday morning because its only on tv from monday to friday at afternoon.
[snapback]52992[/snapback]**You know Günther, there´s also other countries besides us in Germany who show a dubbed version of the anime. And that dubbed version that the fans in the US are getting is beyond every explenation. You wouldn´t even believe me how bad it is. That´s the dub that´s up for discussion here. Not the RTL2 dub.
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God hates us true one piece fans. So he'll continue to fuck us over… oh well. Those little kids can think whatever the fuck they want, I don't care I like the One Piece Tankoubons they can like their one piece dub. Maybe some day they'll find out the truth and enjoy the real one piece.
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 21 2005, 01:24 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 21 2005, 01:24 PM) _> Originally posted by Viz Hater@May 21 2005, 02:18 PM
**> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 21 2005, 01:29 PM
**> Originally posted by Solar Knight@May 21 2005, 01:24 PM
watching it olny boast th rating
[snapback]52974[/snapback]
But it's one of the LOWEST rated shows on Saturday mornings (from what I hear).
[snapback]53027[/snapback]It was. But now it's getting decent ratings on 4Kids tv, and good ratings on Toonami.
[snapback]53033[/snapback]**One Piece is not getting good ratings.
Bad ratings on Toonami and bad ratings on 4K!ds TV.
One Piece is heading in the direction of Cubix.
4K!ds dumped Cubix and, hopefully, they will dump One Piece soon. VERY soon.
I don't want there "uncut" dvds, if they are anything like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King.
They were both edited, Westernized, and changed. And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales.
[snapback]53070[/snapback]**Viz hater is that really true, or do you WANT it to have bad ratings. I forgot what website I got my info, but it stated that it is doing very well on Toonami. Remember the kids who watch the show don't know squat about the japanese version so nothing can seem off to them. People like you try to convince themselves something that is not true. Face it Viz! 4Kids is proboally gonna keep One Piece. So I'd stop fooling myself and others.
[snapback]53082[/snapback]I don't know what possess Viz hater to post here, he never makes any sense.
If the Yugiho or Shaman King has Japanese soundtrack and voice, you can select it to hear it and not crappy American voice_
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What the hell?! how on earth did I get a double-post? Did my T-Mobile fucked up again? I gonna have to do desktop computer if this keeps happening.
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Originally posted by joekido the Second+May 21 2005, 03:21 PM–>QUOTE(joekido the Second @ May 21 2005, 03:21 PM) _> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 21 2005, 01:24 PM
**> Originally posted by Viz Hater@May 21 2005, 02:18 PM
**> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 21 2005, 01:29 PM
**> Originally posted by Solar Knight@May 21 2005, 01:24 PM
watching it olny boast th rating
[snapback]52974[/snapback]
But it's one of the LOWEST rated shows on Saturday mornings (from what I hear).
[snapback]53027[/snapback]It was. But now it's getting decent ratings on 4Kids tv, and good ratings on Toonami.
[snapback]53033[/snapback]**One Piece is not getting good ratings.
Bad ratings on Toonami and bad ratings on 4K!ds TV.
One Piece is heading in the direction of Cubix.
4K!ds dumped Cubix and, hopefully, they will dump One Piece soon. VERY soon.
I don't want there "uncut" dvds, if they are anything like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King.
They were both edited, Westernized, and changed. And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales.
[snapback]53070[/snapback]**Viz hater is that really true, or do you WANT it to have bad ratings. I forgot what website I got my info, but it stated that it is doing very well on Toonami. Remember the kids who watch the show don't know squat about the japanese version so nothing can seem off to them. People like you try to convince themselves something that is not true. Face it Viz! 4Kids is proboally gonna keep One Piece. So I'd stop fooling myself and others.
[snapback]53082[/snapback]**I don't know what possess Viz hater to post here, he never makes any sense.
If the Yugiho or Shaman King has Japanese soundtrack and voice, you can select it to hear it and not crappy American voice
[snapback]53142[/snapback]Aint that the truth!_
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I'm actually against this one..
I really wanna see how low they can go
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Viz Hater, seriously get your information right so you can spare us from your stupidity in the future.
Its got bad ratings on Toonami and bad ratings on 4K!ds TV.
Actually, it's ratings on Toonami actually have been good, sadly. I predict they may go down once Toonami reaches the Krieg arc though.
don't want there "uncut" dvds, if they are anything like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King.
They were both edited, Westernized, and changed. And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales4Kids uncut DVD's weren't edited, westernized, or changed in anyway. The iuncut dubs for them were perfect and extremely close to the original. I swear, the ucnut dubs are the ONLY thing 4Kids has ever done right. The subs however are horrible. They're lazy enough to use dubtitles…..
And 4Kids didn't drop the uncut realeases. Kahn even said in an interview with ANN that the uncut DVD's are selling much better then they expected and the only reason that they were delayed is because 4Kids doesn't want them realeased at the same time as the edited DVD's are, in order to avoid competition or something. Kahn explained that he wants the edited DVD's to be specifically for kids and the uncut DVD's to be specifically for us older fans.
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Originally posted by Günther+May 21 2005, 12:34 PM–>QUOTE(Günther @ May 21 2005, 12:34 PM) _> Originally posted by joekido the Second@May 21 2005, 12:20 PM
**i am confused now what do you mean with "dub"?the anime episode raws?
if yes:these are cut?and what uncut dvds do you mean?the japanese, the engish or other ones?
[snapback]52979[/snapback]
The dub; the anime we wacth every saturaday morning on T.V. dubbed by 4kids.Uncut and unedit and subtitled One Piece DVD is a One Piece without what we watch on Saturaday mornings**
its not getting better."T.V. dubbed by 4kids" what?
are the episode raws cut or uncut?
and which dvds are uncut?the english ones?the japanese ones?i never watched one piece on saturday morning because its only on tv from monday to friday at afternoon.
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Originally posted by RomanMack@May 21 2005, 01:35 PM
They won't make uncut dvd's unless the dub gets popular. So not watching it is a bad idea if you want uncut dvd's. The only thing that will do is cancal the show and not having One Piece dubbed ever again. If it flops with 4kids, other companies will acknowledge the fact that it failed, so they won't want to to get rights for it.[snapback]52993[/snapback]There is a slight flaw in this reasoning; the other companies HAVE to know the alienation the current OP dub has caused for fans of the series, and that the "kiddification" of it has shut out a large, growing, young adult audience for anime. If it failed for 4Kids, there would still be a chance of someone else picking it up.
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Originally posted by Captain Shmeckie+May 21 2005, 06:13 PM–>QUOTE(Captain Shmeckie @ May 21 2005, 06:13 PM)
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I won't stop watching the dub. I won't stop watching it for one reason and one reason alone. It's all I've got. Some OP fans are not blessed with a decent PC and can't download any episodes. So until those uncut DVD's come out…I'm stuck with 4shame.
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i already stop watching the show on CN and see how it's not getting better ill just visit forums and send f-bomb on 4kids for as long until the un-sut dvds come out
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 21 2005, 06:23 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 21 2005, 06:23 PM) _> Originally posted by Captain Shmeckie@May 21 2005, 06:13 PM
**They won't make uncut dvd's unless the dub gets popular. So not watching it is a bad idea if you want uncut dvd's. The only thing that will do is cancal the show and not having One Piece dubbed ever again. If it flops with 4kids, other companies will acknowledge the fact that it failed, so they won't want to to get rights for it.[snapback]52993[/snapback]
There is a slight flaw in this reasoning; the other companies HAVE to know the alienation the current OP dub has caused for fans of the series, and that the "kiddification" of it has shut out a large, growing, young adult audience for anime. If it failed for 4Kids, there would still be a chance of someone else picking it up.
[snapback]53291[/snapback]**I doubt it. We've been over this already in this forum have'nt we? If the dub fails, we can kiss an american One Piece good bye. The other companies are just going to acknowledge that the show failed if it does. I doubt they care about what 4Kids does to a show. Belive me.. Don't waste your time waiting for another company to dub One Piece. It'll just lead you to EVEN MORE dissapointment.
[snapback]53300[/snapback]Then so be it. The manga will live on, the far superior version._
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 21 2005, 07:23 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 21 2005, 07:23 PM) _> Originally posted by Captain Shmeckie@May 21 2005, 06:13 PM
**They won't make uncut dvd's unless the dub gets popular. So not watching it is a bad idea if you want uncut dvd's. The only thing that will do is cancal the show and not having One Piece dubbed ever again. If it flops with 4kids, other companies will acknowledge the fact that it failed, so they won't want to to get rights for it.[snapback]52993[/snapback]
There is a slight flaw in this reasoning; the other companies HAVE to know the alienation the current OP dub has caused for fans of the series, and that the "kiddification" of it has shut out a large, growing, young adult audience for anime. If it failed for 4Kids, there would still be a chance of someone else picking it up.
[snapback]53291[/snapback]**I doubt it. We've been over this already in this forum have'nt we? If the dub fails, we can kiss an american One Piece good bye. The other companies are just going to acknowledge that the show failed if it does. I doubt they care about what 4Kids does to a show. Belive me.. Don't waste your time waiting for another company to dub One Piece. It'll just lead you to EVEN MORE dissapointment.
[snapback]53300[/snapback]Except that, nowadays especially, many companies are well aware of what's said/goes on amoungst anime fans such as the folks here (FUnimation comes to mind in this regard). It's not that they care what they did, so much as they care about the squandered audience, and potential money that could be made by targeting said squandered audience.
I'm not waiting for another company to take it, but it is possible. Hell, it happened to Big O, and on a larger scale than simply re-dubbing by another company (in this case, producing whole new episodes)._
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Just because in a possible future scenario 4kids gives up on One Piece doesn't mean that no other company would try to get it. The last time I checked other company's in this area aren't the idiots that 4kids is when it comes to accepting the reality of what group the show was originally intended for.
Just because an idiot can't sell a diamond doesn't mean someone who actually has common sense can't.
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And FUNimation have announced they have dropped 4K!ds "uncuts" due to a lack in sales.
No they havn't.
 
