Chapter 493 "I know" Discussion
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The thing the most intriguing for me in this chapter is :
Who the hell Duval was talking to with the denden mushi!!!!
I beleive it could be really important for the fishmen's arcHe was talking via loud-speaker. That's how the crew also heard him.
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I like how simple was Oda's solution for the SH to get to Fishman Island.
Bubbles.
Anyway, there's still the problem of Luffy and the other DF Users, but I wonder if wearing the bubble-helmets would allow them to walk around normally on the bottom of the sea.
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Yeah, that bubble's the solution, but the DF crew will have to wear body suits as well, like how they've done it when exploring the sunken ship at Jaya.
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This chapter was whatever. I think Duval is the guy who Grap entrusted Luffy to.
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That three way uppercut solidifies Hacchi's awesome this chapter.
No idea who Duval is based on how freaked out Luffy was. -
dadan is a good possibility but i always had dadan out to be a good person not a head of a kidnapping gang
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Luffy looked freaked but that could just as easily end up being a joke as well as something serious.
ie. "THE PIGEON TALKED!!!!"
He could have a face that Luffy genuinely finds interesting, silly or ridiculous. Again, not that this will be the case, just one possible outcome.
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Luffy looked freaked but that could just as easily end up being a joke as well as something serious.
ie. "THE PIGEON TALKED!!!!"
He could have a face that Luffy genuinely finds interesting, silly or ridiculous. Again, not that this will be the case, just one possible outcome.
He looks scared to me cause he is backing off.
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No, Greg is absolutely right, Luffy had a similar reaction he had when he saw Gen's pinwheel. But i really hope it's not something like that
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No, Greg is absolutely right, Luffy had a similar reaction he had when he saw Gen's pinwheel. But i really hope it's not something like that
Do you see him backing off?
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Well bartholomewkuma, it could be the fact he's getting up considering he just crashed into a building at like 50 miles per hour, and not that he's backing off…
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Do you see him backing off?
Could you tell me what chapter was that.i think it this one http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/80/06/
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It's about the name of brook's latest attack.
Besides, everything is better than trying to guess the identity of you know who.Thank you Elric, for defending me and my theory. I don't know what Lobolover was reading, because apparently he didn't know what the hell I was talking about…
And I would also like to edit my previous entry...when I meant "Straightforward" I meant it in the figurative sense, like when one is direct and frank (hence the term "Franc", meaning frank in French), not literally straight ahead...as he does a lateral slash with his sword. Did anyone else notice him using his Violin in conjunction with the sword? Normally swords do not conduct sound so easily, so maybe it is constructed with the material of a tuning fork...?
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cant wait for the 494 spoiler, which will effectively merge the thread 'who is duval' under the 'dumb predictions thread'
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Yeah, I bet Duval will be revealed next chapter. If he isn't, thats just fucking lame.
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That's interesting. We're at a point where there's no perceivable difference anymore between the jokers and those that are actually serious.
I'm always serious.
- he's the same abs than Smoker
- Luffy has ruined is life
- he is one of the oldest important characters in OP that we know about so it may already be a few years that he's been chasing Luffy
- he may have turned mad/bad being obsessed by Luffy
- Luffy is afraid of him because he has no take on him
- I'm sorry to say that I don't see Smoker as one of the big guys in the New World, so he will have to be dealt with very soon. Now is a good time. At the end of the arc they'll be friends (not nakamas ;-) ) and he will wish Luffy good luck for his trip
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I'm always serious.
- he's the same abs than Smoker
- Luffy has ruined is life
- he is one of the oldest important characters in OP that we know about so it may already be a few years that he's been chasing Luffy
- he may have turned mad/bad being obsessed by Luffy
- Luffy is afraid of him because he has no take on him
- I'm sorry to say that I don't see Smoker as one of the big guys in the New World, so he will have to be dealt with very soon. Now is a good time. At the end of the arc they'll be friends (not nakamas ;-) ) and he will wish Luffy good luck for his trip
- Oda draws muscle guys all the same way.
- Luffy has NOT ruined his life. In fact, he's been promoted to Commodore.
- Uh, I think quite a few characters are older than Smoker. Hell, Robin and Franky are older than he is. (He's 27, right?). Plus, it's been proven time and time again One Piece has only taken about 2 months (Not counting possible time gaps in East Blue before Arlong Park).
- He's determined to catch him, but he already had an opportunity at Arabasta and let him go. So he's not obsessed.
- Luffy can't beat him, but isn't afraid of him. He just runs away.
- Smoker's on his way up, actually.
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'If he iz Smoker zen I am MICKEY MOUSE!'
Yeah seriously. It's not Smoker. I'm not into the hobby of crushing dreams but making THAT Smoker would be a complete bastardization of EVERYTHING Oda has done to/with the Smoker character and persona. Smoker isn't a villain. He's an opposing force, not a villain. If anything we've seen that he's remarkably humane, NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SLAVE TRADE OR USING OTHERS TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK. Plus how in the hell do you account for his whacked-out accent? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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Well bartholomewkuma, it could be the fact he's getting up considering he just crashed into a building at like 50 miles per hour, and not that he's backing off…
He didn't even mind the fall but when he saw Duval, he looks like he's cornered.
@kuma fanny
Luffy's hair is not even spiky in that pic. -
It's painfully obvious that it isn't smoker
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He didn't even mind the fall but when he saw Duval, he looks like he's cornered.
@kuma fanny
Luffy's hair is not even spiky in that pic.Actually he's saying "owwwwwwwww" if im not wrong. And it looks more like he's pulling himself up than dragging himself away on the ground. I mean, the smart thing to do would be to get up, not lie on the ground, amirite?
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@Fire Fist:
- Oda draws muscle guys all the same way.
- Luffy has NOT ruined his life. In fact, he's been promoted to Commodore.
- Uh, I think quite a few characters are older than Smoker. Hell, Robin and Franky are older than he is. (He's 27, right?). Plus, it's been proven time and time again One Piece has only taken about 2 months (Not counting possible time gaps in East Blue before Arlong Park).
- He's determined to catch him, but he already had an opportunity at Arabasta and let him go. So he's not obsessed.
- Luffy can't beat him, but isn't afraid of him. He just runs away.
- Smoker's on his way up, actually.
I am pretty sure that Smoker and Franky are the same age.
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They're both thirtyfour years old.
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Yep the same age of 34 years old.
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whoever said it was smoker?
put your head down on the desk
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@Fire Fist:
- Oda draws muscle guys all the same way.
- Luffy has NOT ruined his life. In fact, he's been promoted to Commodore.
- Uh, I think quite a few characters are older than Smoker. Hell, Robin and Franky are older than he is. (He's 27, right?). Plus, it's been proven time and time again One Piece has only taken about 2 months (Not counting possible time gaps in East Blue before Arlong Park).
- He's determined to catch him, but he already had an opportunity at Arabasta and let him go. So he's not obsessed.
- Luffy can't beat him, but isn't afraid of him. He just runs away.
- Smoker's on his way up, actually.
- Luffy has ruined his life in the way that he showed him that the values he was fighting for could easily be trashed by the ones he was working for.
- it is not about his real age but about the time we know him in OP. If we already know that Duval then Smoker is one of the earliest important characters we were introduced to in OP that could fit. Too bad we don't have enough time references in OP to say for sure if they met two months ago or two years…
- in Alabasta it wasn't long enough for him since their last encounter to already have become crazy with obsession. If years have passed since then, then he may have changed. I already found him changed the last time we saw him.
- yeah Luffy isn't really afraid of anyone, he just looks like this when he meet characters he know and know he can't win agains them.
The two arguments against are: - where is tashigi ? - how much time since they last met ?
Talking about Smoker by the way, I think that the ultimate weapon against him is Franky's Coup de Vent
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- Luffy has ruined his life in the way that he showed him that the values he was fighting for could easily be trashed by the ones he was working for.
- it is not about his real age but about the time we know him in OP. If we already know that Duval then Smoker is one of the earliest important characters we were introduced to in OP that could fit. Too bad we don't have enough time references in OP to say for sure if they met two months ago or two years…
- in Alabasta it wasn't long enough for him since their last encounter to already have become crazy with obsession. If years have passed since then, then he may have changed. I already found him changed the last time we saw him.
- yeah Luffy isn't really afraid of anyone, he just looks like this when he meet characters he know and know he can't win agains them.
The two arguments against are: - where is tashigi ? - how much time since they last met ?
Talking about Smoker by the way, I think that the ultimate weapon against him is Franky's Coup de Vent
You can't be serious???? We just saw smoker recently in manga terms, when the StrawHats got their new bounties. He said "On my pride, I will seek them in the New world and crush them ". The time since that was said, was well over a 1 1/2 weeks ago roughly.
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Greg basically already shut down Duval being Smoker, although it shouldn't really need to be explained in the first place why that is…
Anyway, if you look back in the in-between chapters after Enies Lobby Smoker mentions how he's going to going to go into the New World to go after Luffy.
@stephen's:
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Smoker: Sailors are sailors… So long as the Marines are an organization,
there is a limit to what I can accomplish as a captain...
What we need now is "rank."
After the events at Enies Lobby, all the pirates in the world
are going to start ceding the way to the Straw Hat Crew.Tashigi: Yes...
Smoker: On my pride,
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duval is obv someone we havent seen b4 the accent verifies that neone who says other wise is trolln n lookn 4 attention
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Yeah because it's so hard for old characters to get accents. Anyway, I'm sticking with my theory that it is Don Krieg. He's the only old character that fits the bill and could have gotten into the Grand Line before Luffy.
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Yeah because it's so hard for old characters to get accents. Anyway, I'm sticking with my theory that it is Don Krieg. He's the only old character that fits the bill and could have gotten into the Grand Line before Luffy.
accents aren't clothes you don't go to the store and say hey i want a french accent. How did don kreig double in sizE?
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People grow up, it's a fact of life. Also I think people are seriously overestimating this guy's size anyway. If you remove the armor, he doesn't seem that big. And it's really not that difficult to get an accent, especially if you have prolonged contact in a foreign environment.
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People grow up, it's a fact of life. Also I think people are seriously overestimating this guy's size anyway. If you remove the armor, he doesn't seem that big. And it's really not that difficult to get an accent, especially if you have prolonged contact in a foreign environment.
since you don't listen to reason or logic then i guess we will have to wait until the author reveals who duval is and don't be suprised when your dead wrong.
An accent that comes out when some one is mad means thats how they originally talk and revert back to thhier normal reason when they are anger because they don't have full control of their speech who the hell makes up an accent for being mad.
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Dude chill, it's called speculation. No need to make me out to be some insufferable troll. I just believe that it is an old character and out of all the suspects Krieg fills the bill the most out of old characters. We'll just see who's right in the end.
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Don´t know if it´s been said before but I don´t think that the hair thing on the last page has any deeper meaning then being the only possible visual effect to show Luffy´s suprise that works from this perspective. We can´t see his face so the usual facial suprise expression can´t be used here. I guess that´s all that is to it.
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Dude chill, it's called speculation. No need to make me out to be some insufferable troll. I just believe that it is an old character and out of all the suspects Krieg fills the bill the most out of old characters. We'll just see who's right in the end.
It's not Krieg. Krieg is like only up Duval's waist. There's no way Krieg could grow that much unless there's a Devil Fruit that would let him get that big. It's definitely some new character.
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It's not Krieg. Krieg is like only up Duval's waist. There's no way Krieg could grow that much unless there's a Devil Fruit that would let him get that big. It's definitely some new character.
It's definitely his hormones.
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How come the spoiler thread was locked? :wassat:
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How come the spoiler thread was locked? :wassat:
Probably because it was going way off-topic.
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I see and thank you for answering my question too.
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Japanese RAW anyone?
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The spoiler thread is back! But it was only one more post though. :sad: