It's probably someone from Zoro's past
have we even had a Zoro-Centered arc at all?
The one with Morgan doesn't count because, you know, it was more of Luffy just meeting Zoro than helping him with something from his past.
It's probably someone from Zoro's past
have we even had a Zoro-Centered arc at all?
The one with Morgan doesn't count because, you know, it was more of Luffy just meeting Zoro than helping him with something from his past.
I'm really thinking it's Morgan. Because if anyone's life was truly ruined by Luffy, it was his. He ruled that island with pretty much endless power before Luffy came in a took it away from him.
Now, he's been reduced from the all-powerful Captain he was, to a guy who's running from the Marines.
Sawry saw this thread too late so here is my 2 cent:
He is an unknown so far and Franky ruined his life –> my proof:
how about,that logo is the logo of the "criminal" brand?
btw. a few points from me:
Duval said:
"That pirate ship…is the ship which i have been searching for all this time...!!!
...I will kill him.....!!!! The man who destroyed my life...! SEARCHING ALL THE TIME + MAN + DESTROYED HIS LIFE
look at this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/491/18/
"Duval-sama is gonna be overjoyed about this!"
…and the next pannel they show Luffy, like they're talking about him....
with this 4 factors it's almost sure that Duval is searching for Luffy....
if it's someone we know allready, it could be:
Higuma - Morgan - Buggy - Kuro - Krieg (not Jin) - Arlong - Warpol - Crocodile - Bellamy - Enel - Blueno - Lucci - Moria
(did i forgot someone?)
1. Higuma: eaten by the sea king...
2. Morgan:
pro: still alive and in freedom, destroyed life (he was a tyrann), hint (left hand), size (?), could be waiting for a long time
contra: weak, he cannot fit in the helmet (?)
3. Buggy: his life wasn't destroyed by Luffy (Shanks did it)...
4. Kuro: he's too weak, and he finished his pirate career...
5. Krieg:
pro: it's been a long time, the armor, the size, destroyed his life (he couldn't get Jeff's lock book, and the Baratie), hint (a meeting on the grand line), he would sell people
contra: not strong enough (maybe with a DF)
6. Arlong: it cannot be Arlong... the hands...(Arlong is still in the prison?)
7. Warpol: Luffy didn't destroy his life
8. Crocodile: Impel Down
9. Bellamy: dead...
10. Enel: moon...
the rest (Blueno, Lucci, Moria): they are "fresh"... they couldn't wait that long...
EDIT: what's this? http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Toni_Kroos/bezimena2.jpg
Dupal's actually a man from Luffy's Village who wanted to become a pirate, but since Luffy stole his little ship, his magnificent beginning was a complete failure…
Now he's collecting money to buy the island of Meat so Luffy will never ever be allowed there....
OK, since people are bringing up old pictures, check this out:
I don't want to post too many pictures, so here's the links to some more:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/67/05/
Read it for yourself.
If that's not enough to convince people… I just think it's silly to look any further than the obvious. Kreig is in complete denial, goes insane, and Gin promises to meet them again in the Grand Line. I think it's obvious that they'll do it before the New World, so here is the perfect chance for Oda to squeeze them in before their big new start in the other half of the world.
I'v lost track. Are you argueing for it being Kreig or against Wolfpox?
I'v lost track. Are you argueing for it being Kreig or against Wolfpox?
lol don't be a smartass Gorlom.
Damnit, can't you just assume I'm serious and tell me instead?
=)
Sawry saw this thread too late so here is my 2 cent:
He is an unknown so far and Franky ruined his life –> my proof:
That COULD just be another fashion brand.
I'd make some condescending remark about Dupal's identity, but I'm pretty sure they've ALL been done
Oda has done a good job hiding it and I don't think we're gonna get any good guess with the clues we've got
Nobody that we've seen before very likely that whoever it is, their past is linked with either the mermaid or another crew member than Luffy.
Eh? Pirates are kidnappers…
Alvida kidnapped Coby. right there black on white.
Mob bosses sometimes sneak drugs from country to country, but that don't make them drug runners/mules. Pirates ARE NOT 'slave-traffickers' or kidnappers (whatever you wanna call them). Sure they kidnap people and take people as hostages but all I'm saying is that a pirate is a different kind of criminal (a more prestigious kind in One Piece's case).
Sawry saw this thread too late so here is my 2 cent:
He is an unknown so far and Franky ruined his life –> my proof:
Very interesting find. I doubt it's just a clothing brand. Well I doubt it in the case of the riders because the symbol is on the flying fishes themselves (unless it's painted on them). Perhaps Franky is connected to the gang in some way???? It's pretty damn doubtful, but meh I'll take a shot at it and regret it later…... Just because he's never heard of the 'flying fish gang' doesn't mean he hasn't had dealings with. We don't know much about Franky -> about how he got himself back to Water7 after he got hit by the Train. I've always felt like there is (or should be) a lot more to his "CYBORGIFICATION". Maybe he got some help??? Heh like I said it's sounds ridiculous to me too, and I'm already regretting it, but this is a speculatory thread afterall
I thought about that all night but maybe there was a way Dupal knew it was the Strawhats' ship and we just didn't connect the dots sooner. I'm talking about the suspicious shadow in the fog in chapter 490. …
To reconize a pirate ship it's quite simple… look at the flag, there's a huge mugiwara on a skull...
doesn't need more to reconize them... even if they change from the going merry to the thousand sunny...
By the way, I don't think we've seen DUVAL before, because I don't think he'll say "…I will kill him.....!!!! The man who destroyed my life...!"
I mean if it was a pirate, he's still doing pirate things so... he doesn't destroyed his life... his honor, yes not his life.
Morgan and Bellamy (as bellamy was fired of Flamingo's crew) should be the only vilains we've seen that have lost their status... (crocodile is in impel down)
My suposition is that it's actually somebody that was in the marine but been fired because of luffy... he's ex-teacher perhaps... the one garp told luffy when they meet at the end of EL's arc
What I'm almost sure is that when DUVAL we'll take off his mask the dialogue will be :
DUVAL : "Hahaha you're the one whe destroyed my life, don't you reconize me?"
LUFFY : "No, who are you?"
with is silly face... and picking his nose...
I'm amazed by your quoting skills kibagami.. =P
If those mob bossees personally sneak drugs (in large enough quantities intended to sell to consumers) from country to country they are in that instant a drugrunner/mule. Not their primary occupation and they are usually so much more then a simple mule that they are seldom called it.
But pirates are kidnappers and slave traders among other things. Do not kid yourself about that and pretend otherwise.
@wikipedia:
Modern definitions of piracy include the following acts:
If you want to argue anything you should argue that it is not the case in the world of OP. But we don't know enough about that, infact we have accounts of enslavement we can point at: Coby at the hands of Alvida and Nami and the rest of her vilalge at the hands of Arlong.
Morgan?
Oh dear.
Don Krieg?
Good one,although I suspect we'll meet them sooner or later.(and I'll swear it have to do with saving Sanji)
Judging by the way how "hip" those fish rider look like,they're definitely part of Bellamy's lackey.Bellamy's crew if you guys look back tend to be more modern or kinda cool looking (although lacking grit). So Dupal could either be Bellamy or maybe Sarquiss.
No,I don't think Bellamy is dead.
Which only mean it will lead us to one thing.
Doflamingo.
Bellamy did say that the strawhats are going to his direction am I not wrong? Well they are almost there in my opinion.I remember someone noted this but Doflamingo is definately the big boss of the first half of the grand line before they set foot on the New World.All the strawhat's bounty will definately rise after that. For all I care, there's a chance of Jinbei and Doflamingo getting owned here but I'll doubt we'll see Jinbei here,cause it's just too predictable.(I think he's definately in the New World doing more serious matters.)
On a parting note,about the symbol on that fish rider's necklace and Franky's shirt,there's definately a connection between Frank and Doflamingo….his dad maybe?To quote one of Franky's lackey whose name I forgot," Franky's dad USED to be a famous pirate. Doflamingo also used to be a pirate,so there ya go.
I love how everyone keeps arguing that some characters are WAY TOO WEAK to even get so close to the red line when Coby was practically way more of a weakling than Alvida when we first meet him.
The problem with the SH is that, unlike most pirates, they must get in way too much shit, so it's obvious they don't have the need of such things as training.
Who Dupal CANNOT be:
Buggy: Buggy is too flashy to hide in armor.
Kuro: Kuro fights with speed and that heavy armor won't exactly help him.
Gaimon: That's a joke right? Right?
Arlong: Dupal is clearly human as shown by his hand.
Smoker: Smoker would not join a band of pirates.
Crocodile, Mr.1, Mr.2, Mr.3: Locked up in Impel Down.
Mr.4, Mr.5: Working happily at the Spider's Cafe.
Anyone from Skypeia: If they wanted revenge they'd go after Wiper or Gan Fall, not the SHs.
Eneru: He's on the moon.
Gedetsu: Working at a hot springs with Kohza's Uncle.
Wapol: He's CEO of a major corporation and married to a hot supermodel.
Foxy: Considering that Luffy only took a horse and messed up his flag, they left in fairly decent terms.
Anyone from Water7 or Enies Lobby: Its been too soon for them to have gathered a crew of pirates and set up a slave ring. Plus why the hell would a Marine join a pirate crew?
Anyone from Thriller Bark: WAY too soon for them to be after revenge.
Possiblities if Dupal is someone seen before:
Bellamy: Assuming Sarquiss didn't kill him, he's got a really good motive.
Sarquiss: If he really did off Bellamy, then he's got an even better reason.
Krieg or Gin: Many points can be made for both.
I'm off the opinion that its someone we haven't seen before and will be used to give us some new backstory for a SH member.
My goodness, how can everyone ignore those pictures I posted where Gin promises to meet them on the Grand Line and explains how they'll start over?
A bit off topic but i think my question doesnt deserve a thread on its own. While we are trying to guess who dupal could be. What will be his role in the story?
#1 is out as i think jimbei will the main villian of this arc, unless jimbei is someone like mihawk or kuma.
#2 Dupal isnt a fishman but is possible if Jimbei isnt the main villian of this arc, it's possible Kupal is a one of donflamingo team leaders.
#3 he looks cool enough to be one of the BB's elite
#4 What's next after musician and we can read the sign.
#5 Something like bellamy, he just belong to a insignicant kidnapping syndicate, will he be another OPKO victim?
#6 This is what everyone is expecting, someone we knew and coming back for more screen! Or someone fulfilling Oda's promise, like gin and kreigm
its blackbeard, Ace hurt him bad, scared him completely bad
he wants to kidnap luffy to lure ace out to finish him off
the darkness is comin out of his mask!
I'm guessing it will be Krieg, and he will be smashed by a single attack of Luffy's, just as a way of proving how even though Krieg has improved dramatically, Luffy has improved even more.
Well i voted for unknown because: Wapol can't bee, duval isi't that small… Gaimon WTF? His life isn't been destroyed by strawhats, T-Bone - just no way... Foxy NOOOOO, Bellamy no chance, Arlong - can't bee, his hand is human (in Duval), Morgan and Krieg would be only logical explanation... But i really doubd't than MAIN VILIAN OF THIS ARC WILL BE SOMEONE WEEK AND PATHETIC LIKE KRIEG OR MORGAN so for me, yeah, it will be some new character from character's past which we didint see til now...
Maybe this 'supposed villain from Luffy's past' (My bet's on Krieg) ate a devil fruit that would make him stronger?
First Theory removed, so pretend it never existed if you saw it…
Why Duval? The only reason to change your name… Is because you've suffered enough humiliation to change your name maybe?
Now, who do we know suffered enough humiliation to change their name?
Hmm... How about someone that got punched ONCE and lost a match after calling him a weak little brat?
Who else... But Bellamy?
Either Duval or Bellamy.
EDIT:
Woops… Missed the thing about Strawhats in that one page... Man, tiredness can do things to you... But, I guess my theory isn't all bad with the Bellamy part...
my problem with kreig is that i can't see him making it this far into the grandline.
what if he managed to get his hands on a DF sabert00the?
Also, Doflamingo told Bellamy that he didn't have a place in his following anymore, supposedely kicking him out of the crew and ruining his life. Duval could very well be Bellamy, if he wasn't killed back then.
A bit off topic but […] What will be his role in the story?
- Main villain of this arc
- Crewmate of the main villain of this arc
- One of the main villian of the story. (like join bb crew one day? that will be cool if bb have more crews to field them against every crew of SH)
4) A new nakama for SH (something like franky when he first debuted)- Just another lightweight villian (something like bellamy)
- A villian that will be right behind SH in the grandline (something like Buggy)
#4 Franky was a robber of pirate as nami was… not a slave trader... I doubt this kind of "work" will be accept by the SH crew...
I know robin was an assassin, which is in a way worse... but it was kind of self-defense... which can not be the case with slaves trading...
what if he managed to get his hands on a DF sabert00the?
i dunno, i hear names like sarquiss, bellamy and kreig and i just don't believe for a second they have the capacity to be grandline pirates let alone red line pirates. in the case of sarquiss and bellamy, they only got to where they were because of their numbers but they were dismissed by real pirates at first site ala blackbeard and luffy. as for kreig, he was booted out immediately by mihawk (i still reckon at the rest of the WG) and so i can't see them allowing him back in. For me it has to be former WG which is why Morgan and Spandam stand up so well.
sabert00the… i think your recollection of the events are somewhat off. Luffy and BB came off as extremely strong pirates. normal Grandline pirates like the ones around Jaya were weaker then Bellamy was. All of them were trembeling in fear of him.
sabert00the… i think your recollection of the events are somewhat off. Luffy and BB came off as extremely strong pirates. normal Grandline pirates like the ones around Jaya were weaker then Bellamy was.
True also the makro gang doesn't seems strong as the can't stand a chance in front of hatchi (hatchi could have been beat by kuro during east blue arc)
And they are all here at the half of the grand line…. Hatchi even went faster than the strawhat's crew... They're not all as strong as the SH or the BB's crews… Hopefully, or else WG will be in deep @#%$ !!!
True also the makro gang doesn't seems strong as the can't stand a chance in front of hatchi (hatchi could have been beat by kuro during east blue arc)
And they are all here at the half of the grand line…. Hatchi even went faster than the strawhat's crew... They're not all as strong as the SH or the BB's crews… Hopefully, or else WG will be in deep @#%$ !!!
Hatchi probably originally came from merman island, so it's more or less natural that he returns there after Arlong was defeated.
Furthermore he probably went there directly by using an eternal port and in the best case even underwater, instead of defeating two shichibukai, destroying one of the world governments strongholds and stuff like that.
True also the makro gang doesn't seems strong as the can't stand a chance in front of hatchi (hatchi could have been beat by kuro during east blue arc)
And they are all here at the half of the grand line…. Hatchi even went faster than the strawhat's crew...
They're not all as strong as the SH or the BB's crews… Hopefully, or else WG will be in deep @#%$ !!!
You're assuming that Hatchi didn't get stronger….
BELLAMY is not confirmed dead.
and by next weeks cover,well probably have to drop that even as a possibility,seeing WHO it may portray.
Gorlom-youd have to ask the trans guys.)
but-doesnt the SLOW shot of Luffy kinda make it evident just WHO they mean?
could be diferent,but it sure doesnt look that way.
Guys… do you really think Duval is going to be revealed NEXT chapter...?
I mean, there definitely is a possibility... but isn't it sort of extreme that he's going to be revealed so soon?
if hes an EB villian and is a weak "break" villina before FI it COULD be.
Guys… do you really think Duval is going to be revealed NEXT chapter...?
I mean, there definitely is a possibility... but isn't it sort of extreme that he's going to be revealed so soon?
I would honestly perfer him to be. At least it would stop all the speculation.
Oda doesnt know Arlong Park.
#1 is out as i think jimbei will the main villian of this arc, unless jimbei is someone like mihawk or kuma.
That's assuming that A) Jinbei is actually THERE, B) Jinbei is evil. and C) That Duval is a villian of Fishman island. This seems more like a pre-Fishman Island arc.
it took a year for us to know ace is alove, maybe it will be another one year for dupal identity to be revealed?
The suspense is because of
The last time there's a mask (CP9 kidnapping robin), it was revealed shortly because we know they didnt say " i have been waiting, the man who ruined my life"
If he's going to be revealed soon, then oda doesnt need a mask, just draw his backview saying the same thing.
and you dont thing its just about the good design?
I mean THINK of how Luffy will react to someone in an armour helmet (hopefully full armour)
you didn't see my point. i said that Bellamy and others can't bee because they are too week, HELLO, main villian of this arc is guy who Luffy take down with one punch!? I don't think so…
You don't see their point. They said Bellamy and others could've trained AND Duval doesn't have to be the main villain of this arc. Oh, and HELLO to you too.
You should just shut up and wait for the damn chapter.
There's no point in getting pointless points. <_<
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
You should just shut up and wait for the damn chapter.
There's no point in getting pointless points. <_<
Agreed.
This topic should have ended in the spoiler topic. The Chapter discussion at the most.
10 pages of speculations… Why stop here? I hope Dupal's someone we haven't met before and just a victim of one of Luffy's past wreckless behaviour. You know, like some decorator crushed in Arlong Park...
If it's someone we know, then I'd vote for Morgan, Pearl or Don Krieg... or a Kuro or Nezumi on steroids, who knows... I hope we find out next chapter.
Agreed.
This topic should have ended in the spoiler topic. The Chapter discussion at the most.
also nods in agreement
considering how little we know, speculation is pretty pointless
im just interested in seeing how the voting is split at this point…
edit: also hoping we get the reveal next chapter... kind of doubting it... oda will probly have me pulling my hair out for the next 10 chapters
Roman Z-Nezumi?Hmm.Luffy DID ruin his-side earning possibilities at AP.Id actualy like that.
Agreed.
This topic should have ended in the spoiler topic. The Chapter discussion at the most.
Hm, I actually think quite the opposite. It´s topics like this that make the forums. We´re be given our little guessing game by the author which will eventually cover a couple of chapters so why not just enjoying it while it´s there? Or would you prefer another strenght level or death in One Piece discusion?