Chapter 490 "Getting There Again" Discussion

[MonkeyPlaypen]

@Fire Fist:

Vivi isn't a fighter, either. The only time she actually "Hit" someone was the Sniper Pair in the clock tower. Any other time she was helpless.

But she could fight when needed.

@Fire Fist:

First of all, Nami isn't the acting helmsman, Chopper is. Remember how it took the combined effort of Sanji and Usopp to steer back at Reverse mountain, and they STILL broke the helm? Chopper's the only one large and strong enough to effectively steer the helm.

Right, and if Chopper can do in perfectly fine, then there's no reason to seek out another one (When I said Nami was helmsman, I misinterpreted what you said about maneuvering, so sorry about that).

@Fire Fist:

Second, working with stone and brick and steel is very different from working with cloth. You don't ask a welder to knit a sweater for you, do you?

You don't ask someone who builds ships for a living to build a bridge, either.

…Look, I get the feeling that this is going to collapse into a stupid internet argument, so shall we just end it?

[Yan]

I just can't see Oda giving the Strawhats YET ANOTHER crewmember when they're not even halfway (technically speaking here… they're not yet) down the Grand Line. Surely he has 1 or 2 more members left to distribute during the next 10 YEARS OF ONE PIECE.

[CodedTech]

It'd be a bit odd to reach their goals with a crew member that hasn't been with them for long.

[SabZ]

@Yan:

I just can't see Oda giving the Strawhats YET ANOTHER crewmember when they're not even halfway (technically speaking here… they're not yet) down the Grand Line. Surely he has 1 or 2 more members left to distribute during the next 10 YEARS OF ONE PIECE.

I think Oda intends to have the crew complete before they enter the New World. It'd be better that way because we'd see a lot of each of them, and they can fight as a complete crew.

[Mr. All Sunday]

It might be that they'll get one more before they go to the New World and then Oda will spend the rest of the series giving the main cast some needed development (Chopper and Sanji especially).

I can't see the crew having TWENTY members, and it would be odd too me if they go two crew members over a period of five hundred chapters.

[Yan]

I hope Oda'll steer clear of another 'Nakama wo Sukuu' (Save the Nakama) arc.

I wouldn't be too surprised if one of the crewmates temporarily left (like the Usopp/Robin scenario) for some time.

[skarlath]

No new members for a while. I'm hoping for a guy who wants to be a pirate, but the SH reject him so he follows for a while and then joins?

maybe

I feel that if there are any new members soon, it will seem rushed. Like Oda is saying "Shit. I gotta go more members soon…"

If we still have 500 chapters to go, I could DEFINITELY see us getting the last member around 800

900 if we already know them

wink wink

[Yan]

I expect the crew to be ready by Chapter 700. Endgame should start around Chapter 800, in my opinion.

[King Kobra]

Maybe Luffy will accidentally swallow Camie.

Hilarity ensues when he falls in love with her because she's just too damn tasty like the most tasty piece of meat on the world.

So yeah, Camie's purpose (IF She joins) may be just to be the one to bear the children of the future Pirate King…....

AND she cooks.

Food = Something Luffy would surely appreciate more than romance.

[ligeia]

I agree with CodedTech. What would it mean to have a crewmember join if, say, most of their journey is already over and there's only an island or two left before Raftel?

[Impel Down]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

So yeah, Camie's purpose (IF She joins) may be just to be the one to bear the children of the future Pirate King…....

That's obviously why Nami's there. And how could she have kids if she doesn't, seemingly, have a vagina?

I hope she doesn't join, personally. She doesn't seemingly have anything about her that she can contribute, both as a member and combat-wise. At least Nami kicked some ass and Brook was an ex-pirate when they found them.

[skarlath]

@Impel:

And how could she have kids if she doesn't, seemingly, have a vagina?

There is clearly a way for her to reproduce

Or she wouldn't exist

Not because of biological laws

just because, you know, she would have no other purpose and thus Oda wouldn't have made her

[Dark_Kaomi]

I JUST figured out the whole face fault thing at the end. I'm so used to Chopper being able to speak human language because of his DF that I completely forgot he's the only animal that's been able to do so since the beginning. From the SH's point of view, that starfish is speaking human without the aid of a DF (most likely.) It didn't seem strange to me but to them it must be down right freaky.

[King Kobra]

@Impel:

I hope she doesn't join, personally. She doesn't seemingly have anything about her that she can contribute, both as a member and combat-wise. At least Nami kicked some ass and Brook was an ex-pirate when they found them.

Yeah, leaving jokes aside, I don't see any way she would fit in.

At least Robin has her fruit and Nami her skills as a navigator…

What could Camie do?

Kiss enemies to death?

PS:

I meant something like Luffy WAITING for her legs to split. Of course, that's downright ridiculous. I doubt even Luffy would want to wait that much.

[Impel Down]

Oh, I forgot she can turn her lower half into human legs and whatnot. Never mind, her vagina is back into the equation.

And she has that shell on her back, so maybe that's something.

[slippy]

looks like a backpack to me, has straps on the front

[Seal of Legends]

It probably has all her design ideas and clothes in it. XD

…or maybe it's just her Takoyaki delivery bag.

[Impel Down]

Or maybe it's got chakrams made from Sea Stone in them.

We'll never know.

[Yan]

@Seal:

It probably has all her design ideas and clothes in it. XD

In that case, they gotta be waterproof. Haha.

[Seal of Legends]

@Yan:

In that case, they gotta be waterproof. Haha.

I wonder if there's sea paper.

[Miss White day]

Must be tough to be easily eaten. I mean as a takoyaki deliverer she's probably not really punctual what with getting eaten and rescued on the way.
I hope the Strawhats don't put her in the aquarium or she'll get eaten by whatever they fished and put there.

[King Kobra]

Maybe she could atack with Takoyaki.

Forcing the Opponents to eat until they explode.

What a delicious way to die.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

Maybe she could atack with Takoyaki.

Forcing the Opponents to eat until they explode.

What a delicious way to die.

I just want to smack you right now

And I don't even know why..

[boiga]

@onemoment:

I'm wondering, now that we're on the verge of a Fishman arc. Is there any special reason that fishman at the arc before the Strawhats entered Grandline, and now the Red line? Is Oda just trying to make both moments reflect each other, or is there something special about the fishman.

Actually, everything after skypiea directly mirrors East Blue.

1. Fight in Marine Base: Morgan/G8(anime only)
2. Fight against maniacal goof ball: Buggy/Foxy
3. Have locals think you're villains: Usopp's town/W7
4. Fight against sadistic mass murderer and his mostly animal themed underlings: Kuro/Lucci
5. Fight against guy who relies excessively on large crew and trickery: Krieg/Moria
6. Encounter with Fishmen: AP/FI
7. Evade Marine Base and cross the Red Line: Loguetown/Mariejoa

So, it's more than just reflection, its the exact same general outline as East Blue.

[Impel Down]

Because you're insane.

And I think Carie's just the arc guide for this one, just showing them around and whatnot. Basically, she's the Conis of Gyojin Island.

[King Kobra]

Speaking of delicious ways to die..

How do you think each of the Strawhats taste?

Personally, I always imagined Robin to be quite Sour, Zoro pretty rancid and Nami somewhat Spicy.

Luffy must taste pretty bland, tough.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Sanji tastes like Rainbow

Moria tastes like Cherry

Vivi tastes like Italian Ice

Perona tastes like Licorice

Franky tastes like Aluminum

Make a thread for this :C
I'm sensing potential

[Impel Down]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

Speaking of delicious ways to die..

How do you think each of the Strawhats taste?

Personally, I always imagined Robin to be quite Sour, Zoro pretty rancid and Nami somewhat Spicy.

Luffy must taste pretty bland, tough.

I'm guessing Chopper tastes pretty gamey. And Franky's probably way too cold. Brook's pretty spicy, but needs more meat on his bones. Then again, he's only got bones: Skull Joke!

[Lobolover]

@Lobster:

Moria tastes like Cherry

ooookay.NOW youre being-not silly,id actualy say quite mad,to tell the truth.

[Impel Down]

@Lobster:

Perona tastes like Licorice

More like rootbeer.

[Lobolover]

more like candy .

[Aohige_AP]

@Gorlom:

awesome. that carlos net translation doesnt call Garp for carp, fishman island for merman island and the depth limit is 5 000 instead of 5 m.

However, he made Kuma's catch-phrase more in context with the conversation.
Which is actually normally an ideal thing to do when translating, but since it's a catch-phrase that uniquely defines the character, I think it should be left somewhat intact like "Yes, you're right on the mark."

[Yan]

@Lobolover:

more like cotton candy.

Fixed.

16 delicious flavors.

[Lobolover]

no.shes "sweet"(I use the term loosely) ,but not cotton candy sweet,more like sugar cane sweet .

[Yan]

@Lobolover:

no.shes "sweet"(I use the term loosely) ,but not cotton candy sweet,more like sugar cane sweet .

Fairly sure Chopper would try to eat her hair if he saw her.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Does Kuma taste like a loaf of bread?

[Yan]

@Lobster:

Does Kuma taste like a loaf of bread?

Kuma tastes like mechanical parts. lol

[skarlath]

Kuma tastes like Hunny

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Haha

Kuma's a Honey Bear

!

[*Meh*]

And now this thread is starting to taste like spam.

[Seal of Legends]

@Lobster:

Haha

Kuma's a Honey Bear

! http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/sunbear.jpg

What kind of duck IS that?! :blink:

But, in all seriousness, back on-topic.

[zerocustom1989]

Fun Chapter. Glad to see this fishman island thing getting underway, but i cant help but wonder what will happen…. j/k i cant help but wonder what brooke's flag is ARGHAGRHAGRHAGRHAG.

[tony-kun]

Guess Kaimei is the Friend for this arc.

but yeah, fun chapter. nothing really to discuss about it.

and like I thought, it was pretty obvious they weren't going to save Ace

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

I'm really liking the Ace situation now. While the Strawhats do "whatever".. the world is becoming unstable. With WB and Shanks teaming up, Buggy on the move, Ace possibly teaming up with Crocodile.

This could be great

And we still have Dragon, with the rebellion, possible returns of past allies, Oda saying this year is going to a treat, etc..

Sigh

I just can wait until all Lobo breaks loose on the One Piece world. It's going to be nice when he starts wrapping up all of the loose ends.

[Kuso IX Kuso]

From the translation, it sounds like those ominous looking things in the triangle are just there for mystery purposes. Oda just throwing in something weird like that kinda gives his world more depth. Not everything can be explained, so I don't think hes gonna tell us what exactly they are.

My theory still stands!! They're freakin Gillians!!!

[King Kobra]

@tony-kun:

Guess Kaimei is the Friend for this arc.

Yeah, I guess so.

Anyways, how would you cook the Strawhats if you were Hungry Seakings with access to an underwater kitchen?

PS:

What do you think the "Giant Squids" were? Personally, I think they are just..

Giant Squids.

A family of Giant Squids.

[TheGentlemanSkeleton]

This is probably one of Oda's "joiningtrickmove".
We all thought this person* was going to join, but it turns out…

Stops. (Zoro)
Nojiko* --> Nami
Stops. (Usopp)
Zeff* --> Sanji
Stops. (Vivi)
Dr Kureha* --> Chopper
Stops. (Robin)
Paulie* --> Franky
Stops. (Brooke)
Kaimei* --> ???

Looks like a pattern, doesn't it?

[King Kobra]

Okay, this started to feel very creepy…

Is it just a mere mistake (One gets used to them after making up a random name with words that sounded Japanesey) or does the name of that Klutz is actually kaimei?

[Darkestsith6]

What about Zoro, Nami, and Usopp?

Or was it just convinient to leave them out

[Seal of Legends]

Wait a second, who actually thought ZEFF was going to join?

No seriously, WHO?