What TB brought to the OP world

AlmostLegendary

This is basically what TB prob one of the best arcs ever IMO brought to the OP world. So basically discuss the new facts and what we have learned from TB.

We had a new shickibaukai in Gecko Moria. The conculsion of the Ace v blackbeard fight. A new crew memember in Brooke. The names of the 2 unknown Yonkou Kaidou and Empress handcock. The signfigance of the paper Ace gave to luffy. Kuma's power and we know he has some type of connection to Dragon.

Thats all i can remember off the top of my head more info would be nice.

Discuss

Moria

Besides the fact that these topics have been discussed to death, I'm pretty sure I saw a thread with the same pathetic idea floating around a few days ago, so this isn't really called for.

Aldrich

Are you talking about my TB appreciation thread?

Choose your words carefully Moria mah boooiiii

Sanctum

what is this needless tomfoolery
aldick
i demand answers

Aldrich

I have no answers to give you Cum-san

You'll have to search for them in your heart. Or any other organ of your choice.

Moria

@Aldrich:

Are you talking about my TB appreciation thread?

Choose your words carefully Moria mah boooiiii

Nah, that's different. The one I saw was just a meaningless discussion that had like three posts before it died.

Mr. All Sunday

Aldrich you need an interim avatar.

Moria also needs to change his username to something less awesome

skarlath

Thank god for threads that exist to be locked. They make me appreciate good threads that much more.

Aldrich

I'm thinking of bringing back Lion O.

Mr. All Sunday

It's Lion O, not Lion 0

silly french not knowing their american 80s cartoons

Aldrich

I dont know what you're talking about.

NINJA EDIT

Sanctum

no thundercat you thundercunt

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

The names of the 2 unknown Yonkou Kaidou and Empress handcock.

Fucking people and thier fucking assupmtions. I'm getting tired of all these damn assumptions everywhere.
Tell me where, TELL ME FUCKING WHERE that was stated. NOWHERE! People, at least make sure you can back up what you say with proof. I can't prove she's not, but to say something is known, there can be no reasonable doubt, and in this case, because it has not been stated, it could possibly be true or untrue, therefore, it is neither, at this point, all it exists as is speculation.
Source: (U.S. Court System, Shrodingers Cat)

AlmostLegendary

didn't see the other thread didn't bother to look fuckin don't care what any of yall said

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

didn't see the other thread didn't bother to look fuckin don't care what any of yall said

At least don't ignore me, my bitching is unrelated to the fact that there's another thread

Gorlom

kitsune: you should look up what Aohige_AP said about how empress was written. It'll help your argument.

Apparently it has nothing to do with how emperor is written in the word yonkou.
both can mean emperor but there is a slight difference in the meaning. Hancock is supposedly just a "bossy lady"

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@Gorlom:

kitsune: you should look up what Aohige_AP said about how empress was written. It'll help your argument.

Apparently it has nothing to do with how emperor is written in the word yonkou.
both can mean emperor but there is a slight difference in the meaning. Hancock is supposedly just a "bossy lady"

Well shoort, I just figured if she were a Yonku, they would've said Yonkou and not Empress. It was part of her name, like Sir Crocodile. it's not Emporer Whitebeard/Newgate or Emporer Shanks. Not is anyone called a Warlord a Shickibukai XP

AlmostLegendary

@Kitsune::

Fucking people and thier fucking assupmtions. I'm getting tired of all these damn assumptions everywhere.
Tell me where, TELL ME FUCKING WHERE that was stated. NOWHERE! People, at least make sure you can back up what you say with proof. I can't prove she's not, but to say something is known, there can be no reasonable doubt, and in this case, because it has not been stated, it could possibly be true or untrue, therefore, it is neither, at this point, all it exists as is speculation.
Source: (U.S. Court System, Shrodingers Cat)

Sorry for ignoring this post i didn't see it at the time of my other post. Yes your right i am assuming that Kaidou and Hancock are Yonkou however i believe it has more basis than anything. One Hancock being a strong pirate in the new world. 4 pirates crews pretty much make up the new world and if your not with them your against. So its safe to assume that they're aren't any pirates rolling in the New world that doesn't have an affiliation to the Yonkou or isn't one of the yonkou them self. For them to describe Hancock as a bossy lady i can't really see her being under any1 else command these here being a strong pirate in the new wworld that isn't affilated with any of the yonkou most be a yonkou them selves otherwise they wouldn't be able to survive.

Then theres Kaidou i believe he is a yonkou because he can't isn't an Admiral in the navy because hte names don't match up. He doesn't the entire crew of Moria. So Kaidou prevents strong pirates that not yonkou level from coming into the new world (just a theory) It is all speculation but theres more foundation to it than some of the other stuff thats floating around on these boards. If Kaidou isn't a yonkou and he isn't an Admiral can you explain what he would be. Since pirates that aren't yonkou level in the new world IMO explain what Hancock is doing in the new world. You might say the rumba pirates where there but they were affilated to Handcock who is a yonkou so like i said either your affilated to one or you are one so as it stands Handcock and Kaidou is either affilated to a yonkou or they are them selves and since Kaidou was able to destroy Moria crew i think its safe to assume that he is a Yonkou.

Gorlom

MDM: Kaidou is confirmed to be one of the yonkou….

When the shadows return from Nightmare Moria some pirates on a ship commented on how he fought evenly with the Yonkou Kaidou for some time.

AlmostLegendary

@Kitsune::

Well shoort, I just figured if she were a Yonku, they would've said Yonkou and not Empress. It was part of her name, like Sir Crocodile. it's not Emporer Whitebeard/Newgate or Emporer Shanks. Not is anyone called a Warlord a Shickibukai XP

@Gorlom:

kitsune: you should look up what Aohige_AP said about how empress was written. It'll help your argument.

Apparently it has nothing to do with how emperor is written in the word yonkou.
both can mean emperor but there is a slight difference in the meaning. Hancock is supposedly just a "bossy lady"

Because it explains here a bossy lady doesn't mean she isn't a yonkou think of it as here being a queen. when i hear empress i think royalty and thats how she rules how ship like is queen and every1 is her subordnioates. She is really strict with a lot of rules

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

Sorry for ignoring this post i didn't see it at the time of my other post. Yes your right i am assuming that Kaidou and Hancock are Yonkou however i believe it has more basis than anything. One Hancock being a strong pirate in the new world. 4 pirates crews pretty much make up the new world and if your not with them your against. So its safe to assume that they're aren't any pirates rolling in the New world that doesn't have an affiliation to the Yonkou or isn't one of the yonkou them self. For them to describe Hancock as a bossy lady i can't really see her being under any1 else command these here being a strong pirate in the new wworld that isn't affilated with any of the yonkou most be a yonkou them selves otherwise they wouldn't be able to survive.

Then theres Kaidou i believe he is a yonkou because he can't isn't an Admiral in the navy because hte names don't match up. He doesn't the entire crew of Moria. So Kaidou prevents strong pirates that not yonkou level from coming into the new world (just a theory) It is all speculation but theres more foundation to it than some of the other stuff thats floating around on these boards. If Kaidou isn't a yonkou and he isn't an Admiral can you explain what he would be. Since pirates that aren't yonkou level in the new world IMO explain what Hancock is doing in the new world. You might say the rumba pirates where there but they were affilated to Handcock who is a yonkou so like i said either your affilated to one or you are one so as it stands Handcock and Kaidou is either affilated to a yonkou or they are them selves and since Kaidou was able to destroy Moria crew i think its safe to assume that he is a Yonkou.

I'm 99% sure Kaidou was already confimed as a Yonkou, that's fine. It's Hancock I'm talking about. It's definatly not safe to assume that all crew in the New World are associated with Yonkou. That would be like saying that all crew in the grand line were associated with a shickibukai, a similar such group which we found out about when we were nearing that location. And assumptions are still assumptions. It cannot be stated as something we learned if it is only an assumption, not until it is proven.

AlmostLegendary

@Gorlom:

MDM: Kaidou is confirmed to be one of the yonkou….

oops didn't realize that lol

Senshi Mizaka

My favorite revelation brought by Thriller Bark was Brooke's past with Laboon.

We did get a fair share of new info, like Blackbeard becoming Crocodile's replacement. That was the biggest shocker for me.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

Because it explains here a bossy lady doesn't mean she isn't a yonkou think of it as here being a queen. when i hear empress i think royalty and thats how she rules how ship like is queen and every1 is her subordnioates. She is really strict with a lot of rules

No, nobody said she can't be a Yonkou, the point is, we don't yet know. It cannot be said that she IS a Yonkou unless it has been stated in the series that she is. She COULD be, but until we know otherwise, we can't say she is.

DarkShinobi

Shouldn't this and the TB appreciation thread just be fused?

AlmostLegendary

@Kitsune::

I'm 99% sure Kaidou was already confimed as a Yonkou, that's fine. It's Hancock I'm talking about. It's definatly not safe to assume that all crew in the New World are associated with Yonkou. That would be like saying that all crew in the grand line were associated with a shickibukai, a similar such group which we found out about when we were nearing that location. And assumptions are still assumptions. It cannot be stated as something we learned if it is only an assumption, not until it is proven.

No, but we do see that there is a point in the GL where normal pirates can not cross that point was Moria. So Moria is to the Grandline what Kaidou is to the New world. The new world should be more vicious than the grand line and i do not believe that any yonkou in the new world would allow a strong well known pirate to exist unless it had an affiliation to another yonkou. I see the new world as this 4 emperor sit back never make a move they also don't let anyone advance to their level they don't do anything to cause a war with another yonkou because they will be attack by another one and be whipped out so its a stale mate between the 4. As soon as a weaker power attempts to arise it is taken out. If that pirate crew doesn't have any affilitions to a yonkou how can they survive against one of them ?

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

No, but we do see that there is a point in the GL where normal pirates can not cross that point was Moria. So Moria is to the Grandline what Kaidou is to the New world. The new world should be more vicious than the grand line and i do not believe that any yonkou in the new world would allow a strong well known pirate to exist unless it had an affiliation to another yonkou. I see the new world as this 4 emperor sit back never make a move they also don't let anyone advance to their level they don't do anything to cause a war with another yonkou because they will be attack by another one and be whipped out so its a stale mate between the 4. As soon as a weaker power attempts to arise it is taken out. If that pirate crew doesn't have any affilitions to a yonkou how can they survive against one of them ?

The Straw Hat Crew could.
I believe that there are too many assumption. And the Yonkou aren't really like a mafia. They're just…there. Like Shanks. I think it would kind of suck if EVERYONE were related to a Yonkou. It'd be a tad bit repetetive.

AlmostLegendary

@Kitsune::

The Straw Hat Crew could.
I believe that there are too many assumption. And the Yonkou aren't really like a mafia. They're just…there. Like Shanks. I think it would kind of suck if EVERYONE were related to a Yonkou. It'd be a tad bit repetetive.

Not related but has ties. They are in control of the new world so why wouldn't the be like the mafia. LOL you said something about shanks and SHP but didn't say anything about the connection. At the SHP current power level kaidou would eat them apart. We seen Shanks attack WB without hesitating in an attempt for him to call back Ace imagine what he would do if Kaidou destroyed luffys crew. Like i said if your not in the crew of one of the Yonkou how do you survive in the new world. I still believe that if some 1 is a threat or a preceived threat they will be taken out.

Gorlom

MDM you are makeing alot of assumptions.
Sure Moria is a point ordenary pirates can't cross, but they can go around him. they do not need to travel through the Florian triangle. Same is most likely true to Kaidou.

Four emperors can not be all over the place in the new world. ofcourse some strong pirates are going to slip through and be able to keep away from the Yonkou while still doing their thing.

The 4 emperors are just the strongest pirates, not the only pirates in the new world.
As far as we know only Crocodile, Blackbeard and Moria (and presumably Jinbei) has had their activities based in the first part of the grand line. If the strawhats are supposed to meet up and fight all of them atleast one of them (besides Mihawk) must be in the new world right?

Presumably the Yonkou won't allow shichibukais to roam freely in their territory if they are as powerful as you belive them to be.

AlmostLegendary

mihawk travels almost everywhere his power is matched by the yonkou i dont see many pirates reachn dat level theres also kuma who squashes ppl that get to high TB n moria victims were from many different places

Gorlom

while the victims are all over Moria seems to have been stationary within the florian triangle for atleast 5 years now.

Vanessa

First of all the topic title is basically the same as Aldrich's thread so…http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16818

Secondly what you guys are discussing now there's already a topic for that too…http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16539

So next time do a search before you make a topic that you KNOW will likely be made since this most recent arc just ended.

AlmostLegendary

@Kidany:

First of all the topic title is basically the same as Aldrich's thread so…http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16818

Secondly what you guys are discussing now there's already a topic for that too…http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16539

So next time do a search before you make a topic that you KNOW will likely be made since this most recent arc just ended.

im not repeating myself read all the post in the thread though =0