Now after the Baratie battle Gin turns to Sanji and tells him that he has decided he will go to the Grand Line, picking up Krieg's ambition. He says that he may only have a few hours left to live, and wants to spend them the way he wants to.
Now you think Oda would have at least shown us some Side Story Title Pages as there have been others that have come and gone. The list of these Side Stories featuring past characters and what they end up doing include Mini Buggy, Koby-Meppo, Jango, Hatchan, Wapol, Ace, Gedatsu, Miss Goldenweek plus remaining Baroque Works members, Vivi, Skypiea inhabitants, Eneru and Kokoro.
So why did Oda-sama choose to skip the Krieg crew follow up? I mean he showed what happened to other past characters at least once or twice (Jango in Dance Paradise and at the End of Arabasta arc) or thrice (Gedatsu, Eneru, and the Skypiea Inhabitants)
So we have all these follow ups to other past characters except with Krieg's group. Maybe Oda has plan's to bring them back inthe actual story and not just a Title Page Arc. What's your opinion on this?
Something I noticed about the Manga Side Stories
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I always thought it was pretty obvious that Gin and Krieg died together, and that was the end of their story. Oda likes to hide death as much as possible (since this is a manga that kids read, after all), so I don't know why he would write a side story about them.
Plus, most of the side stories are pretty comical, and there wasn't anything 'funny' about Krieg and his crew… and don't say Pearl, Pearl was just mentally scarring -shudder-
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Gin might just appear at Fishmen's Island, (if he survived, that is).
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Well that squid is going to be there with him cart for sure, LOL!!!
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Krieg's my least-liked villain. I hate him with a passion. There's nothing interesting about him, in my opinion. I love Hacchan, though. He's so clueless and funny.
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Krieg's my least-liked villain. I hate him with a passion. There's nothing interesting about him, in my opinion. I love Hacchan, though. He's so clueless and funny.
Yeah, I hated Krieg too, but I did like Gin. He was so tragic.
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There's nothing obvious about that. The obvious would be that they're still alive and kicking.
Not at all. Gin only had a few hours left to live, and I don't remember about Krieg, but… with the crazy ego that man had, if he were still alive, I'm sure he would have done something nuts by now that would have been important enough to have been shown in the manga.
Anyway, the obvious assumption is that Gin, at least, is dead. They even said he was going to die. Thinking that he lived instead is wishful thinking, which I have nothing against, but... still, it isn't the more likely outcome.
@ Xaravir - I agree with you, I hated Krieg too. I love-hated Gin, though, part of me really liked that tragic part of him, and the other part was screaming "get a backbone!!"
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As long as Gin went to the same doctor Pell went to, he'd have been fine, amirite
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Kriege didn't die
and Gin's fine nao
I don't know about Pearl tho'
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As long as Gin went to the same doctor Pell went to, he'd have been fine, amirite
You got me there…. XD
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Kreig only got knocked, out he never had anything life threatening as far as we know.
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…Maybe Oda has plan's to bring them back inthe actual story and not just a Title Page Arc. What's your opinion on this?
A title page side story doesn´t negate a re-appearance in the main story. Buggy for instance re-appeared in the main story right after he had his own side story. Garp even had his very first appearance in a side story.
If Gin/Krieg are left out, then it´s not because of a re-appearance but most likely because they are not freakish enough to be protagonists of a side story.
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Even though haveing them in the coverstory wouldnt negate them comeing back it would kinda spoil the surprise.
Right now people are argueing that Gin (and for some reason Kreig too) is definetly dead.
Buggy never had anything that could prevent him from going into the grand line (except losing his map), whiile kreigs crew got utterly crushed and may never want to return there again.
Imo if he decides to make Gin reappear handeling his and Buggys in between time differently was a godd thing.
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I always thought it was pretty obvious that Gin and Krieg died together, and that was the end of their story. Oda likes to hide death as much as possible (since this is a manga that kids read, after all), so I don't know why he would write a side story about them.
Plus, most of the side stories are pretty comical, and there wasn't anything 'funny' about Krieg and his crew… and don't say Pearl, Pearl was just mentally scarring -shudder-
I'm offended by that. Krieg was my favorite crew. They were the only crew that have no DF users.
I hope Gin is somewhere in the storyline in the New world.
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I'm offended by that. Krieg was my favorite crew. They were the only crew that have no DF users.
I hope Gin is somewhere in the storyline in the New world.what about kuros crew? or arlong? or alvida before luffy?
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Even though haveing them in the coverstory wouldnt negate them comeing back it would kinda spoil the surprise.
Right now people are argueing that Gin (and for some reason Kreig too) is definetly dead.
That´s a valid argument. I guess I didn´t think about it because seeing Gin reappear wouldn´t be a surprise to me after all because of his last words to Sanji. But I can understand that the element of surprise would still be present for others. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I'm offended by that. Krieg was my favorite crew. They were the only crew that have no DF users.
I hope Gin is somewhere in the storyline in the New world.
Actually, there were a lot of crews in East Blue that had no DF users… -points to Gorlom's post-
And ah, well, Krieg's crew isn't really the most popular, sorry to say but most people didn't like Krieg or Pearl very much, at least from what I've gathered (though Gin seems to be pretty well-liked). There's nothing wrong with you liking them the best, but you'll probably have to get used to the fact that not everyone has the same opinion as you...
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Actually, there were a lot of crews in East Blue that had no DF users… -points to Gorlom's post-
And ah, well, Krieg's crew isn't really the most popular, sorry to say but most people didn't like Krieg or Pearl very much, at least from what I've gathered (though Gin seems to be pretty well-liked). There's nothing wrong with you liking them the best, but you'll probably have to get used to the fact that not everyone has the same opinion as you...
I just remebered a pirate crew from the GL that didnt seem to have any DFs… remember the frog pirates just before they encountered foxy? NO DFs there =P
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Oh what the hell…. no one noticed that he skipped Foxy too? I'm still sticking to the Foxy's gonna meet a past villian and Davy back fight them theory.
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How has he skipped foxy? We haven't had a continuous cover story featuring anyone post skypiea yet.
Still too early to say imo.
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Gin's dead and Krieg's probably broken or doing something crazy. As for Pearl, I always wanted a side-story of him starting a pearl diving business.
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Didnt gin get some kind of antidote? although it was for food poisoning… it might have worked in Odaverse...
(or was there supposed to have been some counteragent in the gasmask?)
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Foxy might just be the next one to get a cover story, and as for Gin, he probably lives. Death does not work as it should in One Piece, lol. All because of these guys willpowers.
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HELLO-PELL/PAGAYA/GALLEY-LA SHIPWRIGHTS.
Last time Oda visibly killed a character in the present was an unimportant unnamed soldier apearing in ONE panel.
dont count on em being dead.
Wasn't Zoro originally given a bounty of 60 million for killing 100 Whiskey Peak assassins and Das Bones?
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Why do people think Kriege died? From a punch to the tummy?
How ridiculous.
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He didn't actually kill them, Das Bones stayed alive, he just sliced them all up.
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That's not what Smoker said.
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He didn't actually kill them, Das Bones stayed alive, he just sliced them all up.
For some reason they didn't actually show Zoro attacking any women. Yet at the end there are a bunch of them on the ground with the rest of the guys.
I've always thought that was strange.
And Das Bones isn't dead either (cover story)
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Edit: Lobster didnt he hit a nun and child saying he hit them with the back of the blade?
Yea, but that's pretty much it. (besides the people who fell through the hole or were shot by Igaram)
Alot of characters that you never actually saw him fight were lying on the ground in that one scene.
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I stand corrected, it says he defeated Das Bones, but not killed him.
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Wait, so he did kill the bountyhunters? I wonder if Mr.9 and Miss Monday survived…?
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Well krieg's crew were the only crew that didn't have guys with super natural powers. Like not having the slip slip fruit, or have guys who are hypnotized to be huge, or being a fishman.
Just to refresh my point from earlier.
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Hermy-its a scanlation,you cant take every word as a literal interpretation.Plus,those were all unnamed never again or after shown side characters with no great plot importance.Like the soldier shooting incident (and plus-this doesnt correct my statement,cause Whiskey Peak happened a HECK OF ALLOT OF A TIME before Enies Lobby)
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You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Jango became a captain one day. His hypnotism is quite powerful. It's like he allows humans to use all of their strength, Hokuto no Hypnoken!
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Hermy-its a scanlation,you cant take every word as a literal interpretation.Plus,those were all unnamed never again or after shown side characters with no great plot importance.Like the soldier shooting incident (and plus-this doesnt correct my statement,cause Whiskey Peak happened a HECK OF ALLOT OF A TIME before Enies Lobby)
It's pretty hard to determine if you're dead or alive in One Piece. In certain occasions.
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acualy it isnt-cause you always are,if you get as much as a name and exist in the "curent" time (curent from OUR point of view,anway)-I mean,after the hogback scene,the wikia had a notice of his and cindry's "death",yet we all know how unaxplainedly THAT worked out.
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For me, it would be strange if guys like Bellamy, Nero or Mr. 11 returned. I think they're dead, but you never know. And of course, those that die in flashbacks, are dead. Bellemere, Norland, etc.
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I think Bellamy IS alive.He was only stated to be defeated,plus the "go do as you please" etc. comment,when heard/read in its entierity would not make sense.
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Well krieg's crew were the only crew that didn't have guys with super natural powers. Like not having the slip slip fruit, or have guys who are hypnotized to be huge, or being a fishman.
Just to refresh my point from earlier.
Pearl had some kind of fire powers.
If you really want to idolize some pirate crew for not haveing anything "superhuman" I suggest the frog-pirates they met before longring island.
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Kuro's crew didn't have any magical powers. And no, Jango's hypnosis doesn't count as magical.
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Krieg and Gin are probably alive, as Oda never kills characters. NEVER. Everytime you think someone died, it was only a KO.
And Krieg's only importance for the plot it to make Sanji join and introduce Mihawk. He's not the type of character who would reappear, unlike Buggy. I found it pretty obvious that Oda skipped Krieg's crew side-story because he was uninteresting.
Pearl was so ass that he made his own crewmate hit him, so that he wouldn't have to be any longer in the manga. Gin was just random and Krieg a generic boss.
Many people said here that Krieg is their least favorite villain, so as he's mine. Don't you think he can be Oda's too? He is the least likely to reappear. Even Kuro was shown checking out Luffy's poster and all…
Buggy already fills the spot for the Early-arcs-reappiring-villain. Next thing people are going to say is that Morgan is going to reappear as a major villain ¬¬
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I don't think that we'll see Don Krieg, Kuro or even Arlong again, but I do believe we'll see Gin.
And as for that with Kuro looking at the wanted poster, that was anime only.
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that was what I wanted to say.I think alot of that was.
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I agree that we shall never see Kuro, Krieg of Arlong again, but I also think we won't see Gin. He's not even a character to be remembered. If there's any villain we shall see again soon, it is Hatchan. I mean, after being defeated in the East Blue and having his little adventure, it's very likely that he returned to the Fishmen Island.
And as I don't think Jimbei or any other fishman would care enough to read the news from East Blue when everything happened, Hatchan could be the one responsible for making Jimbei aware of Arlong's defeat. As we could see in Arlong's arc, the fishman consider theirselves brothers, as they would do anything for each other. That cold be the reason for Jimbei being an enemy.
Anyway, I'm changing the focus of the topic… Well, I think the exactly opposite of what's said. Having a side-story may mean that the character will reappear. Not having it means he'll not.
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Gin is very memorable. I believe he will be Sanji's final boss
He OWNED Sanji.
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I remembered about Gin because of this thread. That wouldn't even make sense if he was Sanji's final boss. Bealive me when I say his role was to introduce Sanji and ONLY that.
"Look, an early generic villain, who was not developed at all, in the end of the Grand Line! Just remembering that he got his crew anihilated by the Shichibukai Mihawk and almost got killed by his own captain. Yes, that makes sense. A randown guy with not even a ship is my final enemy"
Yes. I can totally see that. That's very likely to happen. Sanji and Zoro will fight together against him and the randown marine captain that used to get bribe by arlong. And they will be both aliens.
PS: I don't know if it counts, but Fullbody plays a role in Jango's side-story. He's a Krieg's arc character after all…
And he will also be a final boss to Robin, for no reason. Having stupid final bosses is just good.
