Funny that no one made a joke about her arriving at the moon, reuniting with her brother in face faults. Well, now i spoiled it anyway :p
I thought in that too, but then her head could explode in the space.
Chapter 485 "Strawhat Crew Member: Pirate Hunter Zoro" Discussion
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I know what you mean. But you can't be a Atheist when you believe in a afterlife.
Interestingly you can, as the afterlife doesn't necessarily need to be associated with any kind of Gods or the such, besides, Zoro doesn't really seem atheist, he just doesn't seem to care and I guess even if there was a God and he'd seen him with his own eyes, he wouldn't really give a damn either.
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I thought Atheist didn't believe in anything paranormal?
It's ironic that one of Zoro's atacks is named after a god.
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Zoro doesnt believe to THE god. This doesn't make him atheist or anything.As he said he doesn't care weither he exists or not.
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No, he's said before that's he's Atheist, and the fact that his major attacks come from Buddhism and Hinduism is a joke based on that.
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Specifically, Asura isn't Agod, it's a category for one of many gods. And for the 100th time, it's not an attack, it's an aura projection/ illusion technique that is combined with an attack.
And it's never said an Atheist doesn't believe in anything paranormal, or even gods, for that matter. They just don't worship or pray to any.
Anyways, I hope Zoro is out for the next arc. It'll give the other Strawhats a chance to shine. Besides, after an attack like that, having him come away unharmed is just bad writing.
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zoro being out for an whole arc would be too much considering in fact the next arc could be Zoro based. He still needs to master his new sword and (this kinda a prediction) i think hes wondered away from the path and after being so badly defeated (argually more damaging than mi hawks fight) i think hes swords are going to play parts in his mental recovery i wouldn't be surprised that as they travel to fishman island they Zoro does a serious of trials (while he sleeps) where he wins back his respect and goes back onto the path of the swordsmen. Then i see him out of the next arc for a while then making a come back towards the end of it showing his change.
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Zoro callapases and sanji carries him back to chopper. Chopper looks blankly at Zoro thinking that its over for him but still trying his best. He then calls upon hogback who says what chopper was already thinking saying that Zoro is going to die and that there is nothing they can do for him. Then i see luffy grabbing hogback saying you better save him n stuff like that and hogback would say something like theres only one way of saving Zoro's life. that option involve find either a logia type fruit or a special fruit simular to luffys one (but not rubber something that changes his bodys compisition eg spring spring fruit) Hogback then laughs saying they will never find a fruit on triller back. THats when we see lola or one of her crew members bringing out a fruit saying how they found it shortly after they arrived on the island but didn't want to use it because they didn't no the affect of the lack of no shadow plus a df. They then force it to Zoro making him eat it and Zoro's temperture increases until hes in flames. Before too long they realise he is the new fireman (no pun intended) then they will realise that somethings happened to Ace. Or he gets some other logia type fruit other than fire i think it could be a water type or a somethign which he could apply to his sword fighting technique.
But obviously this would all happen over a few chapters and would be close to impossible that it would ever happen ^__^
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If Kuma's going to fight anyone in the future, it should be Chopper.
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Care to Elaborate on that? Unless you're somehow equating his pain removing ability with Chopper's ability to heal a patient, which is silly…
His opponent will either be Zoro or Franky. Since Zoro already has a Shichibukai to work up to, my money's on Franky.
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Let Chopper fight another Zoan Shikibukai,
Kuma is reserved for Franky :PAnd i dont hope Zoro is fully back in action next chapter.. that would just seem so wrong. Im actually hoping he doesn't have a battle next arc… So that Oda could focus on other SH battle's more. Chopper,Robin and Nami really need a good fight for once.. And it would be nice if Brooke could take the arc's swordsman.
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zoro being out for an whole arc would be too much considering in fact the next arc could be Zoro based. He still needs to master his new sword and (this kinda a prediction) i think hes wondered away from the path and after being so badly defeated (argually more damaging than mi hawks fight) i think hes swords are going to play parts in his mental recovery i wouldn't be surprised that as they travel to fishman island they Zoro does a serious of trials (while he sleeps) where he wins back his respect and goes back onto the path of the swordsmen. Then i see him out of the next arc for a while then making a come back towards the end of it showing his change.
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Zoro callapases and sanji carries him back to chopper. Chopper looks blankly at Zoro thinking that its over for him but still trying his best. He then calls upon hogback who says what chopper was already thinking saying that Zoro is going to die and that there is nothing they can do for him. Then i see luffy grabbing hogback saying you better save him n stuff like that and hogback would say something like theres only one way of saving Zoro's life. that option involve find either a logia type fruit or a special fruit simular to luffys one (but not rubber something that changes his bodys compisition eg spring spring fruit) Hogback then laughs saying they will never find a fruit on triller back. THats when we see lola or one of her crew members bringing out a fruit saying how they found it shortly after they arrived on the island but didn't want to use it because they didn't no the affect of the lack of no shadow plus a df. They then force it to Zoro making him eat it and Zoro's temperture increases until hes in flames. Before too long they realise he is the new fireman (no pun intended) then they will realise that somethings happened to Ace. Or he gets some other logia type fruit other than fire i think it could be a water type or a somethign which he could apply to his sword fighting technique.
But obviously this would all happen over a few chapters and would be close to impossible that it would ever happen ^__^
wow….just wow
wow
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Kuma vs Franky would be one of the badassest fights in One Piece.
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@Fire Fist:
Care to Elaborate on that? Unless you're somehow equating his pain removing ability with Chopper's ability to heal a patient, which is silly…
Well, I'll give it a try. My money's on Chopper for a few reasons. They're both fighting with paws, lol. Even though Chopper in his current state doesn't match the size of Kuma, his Monster form does. I have no doubts that both Chopper and Robin will evolve their devil fruits and make them much stronger. I can't really see Franky getting much stronger, but even if he does, I don't think he could match the strength of Kuma. I don't think it matters that they are both cyborgs. For me, it feels like Kuma's gonna fight Chopper. Chopper should be able to use his Brain Point to scan through Kuma's defence and find a weak spot.
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@AD-HD:
Kuma vs Franky would be one of the badassest fights in One Piece.
Ending with Kuma swallowing Franky and self destructing. Taking out half of the Grandline with him.
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How about I propose the unheard of: Kuma doesn't fight anybody! Not everyone in the story needs to get their face beaten in over the course of the story. I can easily see the guy as an observer of the storyline's events, offerring reflections or some other crap on what's going on. I don't get the same vibe from him that I do from the others, so I don't think he needs to be defeated. Sure, he can show off some more badassery, but I can't imagine anyone putting him down.
It's more interesting if he's a neutral party and doesn't engage in a final fight. Doflamingo on the other hand, I really don't care.
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You're probably right, but that would ruin alot of the fun
Maybe Zoro will never fight Mihawk, maybe someone else (als swordsman) shows up and beat him. And Zoro learns new techniques from Mihawk to beat that swordsman.
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To end any possible further "Zoro DOES/NOT BELIEVE IN GODS"
"Atheism, as a philosophical view, is the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods[1] or rejects theism.[2] When defined more broadly, atheism is the absence of belief in deities,[3] alternatively called nontheism.[4] Although atheism is often equated with irreligion, some religious philosophies, such as secular theology and some varieties of Buddhism such as Theravada, either do not include belief in a personal god as a tenet of the religion, or actively teach nontheism.
Many self-described atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Others argue for atheism on philosophical, social or historical grounds. Although many self-described atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism[5] and naturalism,[6] there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.[7]
The term atheism originated as a pejorative epithet applied to any person or belief in conflict with established religion.[8] With the spread of freethought, scientific skepticism, and criticism of religion, the term began to gather a more specific meaning and has been increasingly used as a self-description by atheists."
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zoro being out for an whole arc would be too much considering in fact the next arc could be Zoro based. He still needs to master his new sword and (this kinda a prediction) i think hes wondered away from the path and after being so badly defeated (argually more damaging than mi hawks fight) i think hes swords are going to play parts in his mental recovery i wouldn't be surprised that as they travel to fishman island they Zoro does a serious of trials (while he sleeps) where he wins back his respect and goes back onto the path of the swordsmen. Then i see him out of the next arc for a while then making a come back towards the end of it showing his change.
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Zoro callapases and sanji carries him back to chopper. Chopper looks blankly at Zoro thinking that its over for him but still trying his best. He then calls upon hogback who says what chopper was already thinking saying that Zoro is going to die and that there is nothing they can do for him. Then i see luffy grabbing hogback saying you better save him n stuff like that and hogback would say something like theres only one way of saving Zoro's life. that option involve find either a logia type fruit or a special fruit simular to luffys one (but not rubber something that changes his bodys compisition eg spring spring fruit) Hogback then laughs saying they will never find a fruit on triller back. THats when we see lola or one of her crew members bringing out a fruit saying how they found it shortly after they arrived on the island but didn't want to use it because they didn't no the affect of the lack of no shadow plus a df. They then force it to Zoro making him eat it and Zoro's temperture increases until hes in flames. Before too long they realise he is the new fireman (no pun intended) then they will realise that somethings happened to Ace. Or he gets some other logia type fruit other than fire i think it could be a water type or a somethign which he could apply to his sword fighting technique.
But obviously this would all happen over a few chapters and would be close to impossible that it would ever happen ^__^
Your 2nd theory's good and really interesting if it actually happened except for the fact that the Rolling Pirates arrived three years ago, long before Ace's supposed death.
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Considering that Kuma is going to be the Marines' ultimate weapon, I don't think anyone save Luffy will be able to defeat him. With the exception of Mihawk, I think Luffy will be the one to defeat all of the Shichibukai (all those that need defeating; I don't think we have to see every single one of them beaten down by the Strawhats).
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I sure hope Luffy doesn't fight any more Shichibukai. Except of course, Blackbeard. If he stays a Shichibukai, that is.
Luffy needs to fight stronger pirates with bigger bounties. I think that Moria was one of the stronger Shichibukais, taking that he was almost as powerful as one of the Yonkou.
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I can't really see Franky getting much stronger, but even if he does, I don't think he could match the strength of Kuma.
Unless the next crewmember of the SH gets to be some genius scientist
(just remember the possible foreshadowing in W7 where Nami was eavesdropping Cobys speech about the ingenuity of Vegapunk….)yeah, quite a crappy theory ^^
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Well, since Moria is 320 millions and Kuma is 296, Zoro should be able to take him down now, being the second stronger SH after Luffy, and because if he has to beat MiHawk later - who's probably the strongest Shichibukai - he also has to be able to take such foes.
He couldn't do it this time for two reasons: first, he was exhausted from Moria/Oz fight; and second, he wasn't able to cut the metal that makes Kuma's body. Now Kuma has left an Zoro is almost dead… It seems that everything is setting up for round number 2 ! In a few arcs, they will meet again... and Zoro will be able to cut that metal or will be able to learn during the fight ! -
Well, since Moria is 320 millions and Kuma is 296, Zoro should be able to take him down now, being the second stronger SH after Luffy, and because if he has to beat MiHawk later - who's probably the strongest Shichibukai - he also has to be able to take such foes.
He couldn't do it this time for two reasons: first, he was exhausted from Moria/Oz fight; and second, he wasn't able to cut the metal that makes Kuma's body. Now Kuma has left an Zoro is almost dead… It seems that everything is setting up for round number 2 ! In a few arcs, they will meet again... and Zoro will be able to cut that metal or will be able to learn during the fight !Do you understand what FROZEN means? The bounties are frozen from the point they joined the WG. Their bounties are irrelevant.
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Yea. Just like Jimbeji had the same bounty as Arlong, before becoming a Shichibukai.
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@Lobster:
Yea. Just like Jimbeji had the same bounty as Arlong, before becoming a Shichibukai.
Are you sure you're reading the right manga?
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I just thought of something. If Kuma was made by the world government and is their tool, then why does he have a former bounty? It would mean that he was not always the world governments tool. Disucuss.
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@Lobster:
Yea. Just like Jimbeji had the same bounty as Arlong, before becoming a Shichibukai.
There's nothing that says that Jimbei and Arlong had the same bounty.
I just thought of something. If Kuma was made by the world government and is their tool, then why does he have a former bounty? It would mean that he was not always the world governments tool. Disucuss.
Someone else could probably explain it better, but I think it went something like this. He was once a ruthless pirate. He was defeated, and badly injured. Dr. Vegapunk saved him. He became a Shichibukai.
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Yes there is
Yosaku said it
get your facts straight
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Even taking into account that Arlong's (and Don Krieg's, for that matter) should have been higher than 20 million, Yosaku said that he and Jimbei were equals in the past. He said nothing about bounties. Get your facts straight.
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He said "their bounties were equal in the past"/"they were equal in the past".
As in, before he became a Shichibukai. Even if the bounty thing isn't true. If they were equal in the past, then they would have the same bounty. When he became a Shichibukai his bounty froze/ended. Which was originally at 20 million.
So how bout' doing a little research?
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Damn lol.
And round 3 goes to Lobster!
Anyways there's no way Zoro can fight now, and I also don't believe the he will fight bear boy again and if he does it won't be until the new world. :P
Like ace and lobster before me said the bounties of shichibukai are irrelevant when fighting them.
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If they were equal in the past, then they would have the same bounty.
How is this fact? This is mere speculation.
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And what you're saying isn't?
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You're making a good point there.
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@Lobster:
If they were equal in the past, then they would have the same bounty. When he became a Shichibukai his bounty froze/ended. Which was originally at 20 million.
Just like Nico Robin was stronger than Zoro till W7/Enies Lobby and is still stronger than Sanji? ;)
As it has been stated countless times before the bounty stands for nothing more than the possible danger for the wg or its citizens. Arlong and Jinbeii could have been equal in strenght, influence or potential - we do not know, but it is likely to asume that an hyped arc like the fishman island will have an strong villain and the SH are far above Arlong Park niveau right know.
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Thank you captain obvious.
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Anyways, back to the topic at hand, Zoro is amazingly amazing.
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Actually Teach had the lowest bounty
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It's like Baroque Works. The lower, the stronger~
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Sorry for bringing this back, but neither Stephen's script nor the Viz translation mention bounty.
http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v08c069.txt
''An area ruled by a fishman who once stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Jinbeh, on of the Seven Armed Seas, known as ARLONG!!!''Viz Media
''Right now, we're headed for Arlong Park!!! Arlong's a fishman. He used to be Jimbei's equal.''There's your research.
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Chopper should be able to use his Brain Point to scan through Kuma's defence and find a weak spot.
I dunno, but I have a feeling that if this ever happens, it will turn out different.
Chopper: Eh?! He d..doesn't have a weak point…But at all, I don't think SH will fight Kuma. If this happens I bet Zoro would take him, nor chopper nor franky.
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Sorry for bringing this back, but neither Stephen's script nor the Viz translation mention bounty.
http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v08c069.txt
''An area ruled by a fishman who once stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Jinbeh, on of the Seven Armed Seas, known as ARLONG!!!''Viz Media
''Right now, we're headed for Arlong Park!!! Arlong's a fishman. He used to be Jimbei's equal.''There's your research.
Thank you! I was just about to post that.
Damn though, that statement doesn't even really suggest that Arlong and Jimbei are equals. Assuming that "shoulder-to-shoulder" completely accurate, that could just mean that they fought side by side, meaning that Arlong could have been a right hand lackey.
Anyway, I doubt we're going to see a 20 million shichibukai.
I dunno, but I have a feeling that if this ever happens, it will turn out different.
Chopper: Eh?! He d..doesn't have a weak point…But at all, I don't think SH will fight Kuma. If this happens I bet Zoro would take him, nor chopper nor franky.
Interesting idea. While I think that Kuma could be the fabled "shichibukai that doesn't fight the SHs," if he does fight a SH then Zoro would make sense. Kuma would make a good entry level shichibukai, like Crocodile was for Luffy.
Cause, in all honesty, Kuma is still the lowest ranking shichibukai, assuming that Jimbei has a higher one. And, I'm only using bounties as a basis because we don't know much about the future shichibukai.
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i think we should instate a rule that anyone who agrees with Lobster is considered "a special member" and is not allowed in any of the intelligent topics.
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Hey guys, what if this guy is Vegapunk?
(real caption: "A Local Scientist Discovers the Secret of Wapol's Toys")
notice how he discovers the secret of robot toys
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Klavik, you deserve a big slice of pie for that find.
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Also, the next chapter ministory was called : Wapol's Omnivorous Banzai Vol.18 "Discovery!! The New Alloy, Wapometal"
Also, the remainder of the ministory is about the giant toy fabric he runs. Maybe he didnt make only toys but also… you know, cyborg parts? :)
