Fishman Island or Impel Down?

Baks

So which location do you wanna see next after Thriller Bark has ended for the next arc? I don't mind either to be honest since they are both cool. XD

Since its almost a given that the next arc after Thriller Bark will probably be in one of those two locations.

They are the only two real outcomes for the next arc imo, the first one being that the crew loses to Kuma and Kuma captures Luffy and probably takes him to Impel Down.

Where Luffy probably learns whether Ace is dead or alive and tries to rescue his bro - assuming Ace is alive after his fight with Blackbeard of course - in a jailbreak type of arc.

The second scenario is that the crew again loses to Kuma, but this time they flee to Fishman Island and encounter Jimbei at long last. Jimbei by the way was mentioned all the way back during the Arlong arc by Johnny and Yosaku. Also who knows, we may even see Arlong again in the Fishman Island arc.

I honestly can't see the crew beating Kuma since like I said most of them are exhausted and tired after the battles with Oz and Moria.

ibn

the crew will not go to impel down. i repeat, they will not go to impel down. why you ask, for the simple reason that they don't know where it is. it's not going to turn up on their log pose, they don't have an eternal pose of impel down, and i highly doubt that a member of the crew has directions there. it's just not going to happen, stop talking about it.

TheGentlemanSkeleton

Fishman Island.

VL7

@ibn:

the crew will not go to impel down. i repeat, they will not go to impel down. why you ask, for the simple reason that they don't know where it is. it's not going to turn up on their log pose, they don't have an eternal pose of impel down, and i highly doubt that a member of the crew has directions there. it's just not going to happen, stop talking about it.

Kuma probably knows/has a log pose to it. Still, I'd probably prefer Fishman island for their next destination, sounds cooler than the whole prison thing.

Big_Boss

I hope we'll see Fishman Island because it has been mentioned for so long…and this has increased my curiosity!

Mantisk

They will never go to Impel Down.

Maybe a future cover story will take place in Impel Down, but not more. In my favorite imagination, Spandam is locked up in Impel Down because of his misuse of the Buster Call, and manages an escape with Bon Curry.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

Never EVER will the crew go to Impel Down. I thought this theory DIED like it should. HOLY FUCK.

Impel Down

I prefer myself to a fictional island.

But plot-wise, yeah, it would make a lot more sense to go to Gyojin Island, since that's where the Log Pose is pointing. Also, since the Red Line's all mountains, it seems like the only way I can think of getting across would be, possibly, underwater, which would invovle Gyojin Island. I really hope they don't turn it into a "Skypiea-magical island-everything's different" adventure, though. Jimbei can't interest me for that long.

Impel Down means backtracking back to Ennies Lobby, I don't think Oda would devote so much time to this area when they have the whole GL and NW to cover.

My guess, Fisherman Island

no seriously Fishman Island

Jinbei

Gyojin Island FTW!!!!…

Dragon

Well, I remember that Impel Down was introduced as an Underwater Prison, so why can't it be located under/near/inside Fishman Island? It's also underwater. Do you realy think, that there are so many underwater places in the One Piece world? But who knows Oda

EDIT: Now that I think of it, maybe Fishman Island is behind the Gates of Justice and they are just going there from another side? Trap kinda thing?

Dr.Octagon

We actually don't know where Impel Down is, and I wouldn't be too surprised if we do visit it someday, but I just can't see another "rescue the captive" arc so soon.

Gyojin Island. Although it would be sorta like SkyPiea underwater, but with much greater peril for the DF users in the crew.

^^^ Good point, Dragon. They are both underwater.

Dragon

Well maybe Kororo was a "Mermaid-Marine" spy and was spying on the mugiwaras? Maybe she lured them in a trap. lol Or at least just warned them.

Elric

1.Robin and Frankie are captured. They plan to take them to Impel down. SHs come to the rescue.

2.Thriller bark.

3.Luffy is captured. They take him to Impel down and this time it's for real! SHs come to the rescue.

Yeah, sure -_-

Dragon

Well, since Marine HQ is not far away from EL, and since Water7 also isn't far away, and Mugiwaras were only sailing for a day or something, the map can be something like this: (sry, fast work - low quality )

!
EL - Ennies Lobby
W7 - Water Seven
FT - Furorian Triangle
HQ - Marine Headquarters
ID - Impel Down
FI - Fishman island
The big red line on top is the RED LINE.
! So I really think that Fishman island, marine HQ and impel down are in a disconnected area, where you can only get throught gates of justice or going to fishman island. And the only secret passage to the new world can easily be inside Marine HQ (Assuming that all 3 can be connected together.)
And it's all a trap kinda thing

freedom

Fishman Island is next and it should be obvious

1. Pattern
Arabasta, but detour to Drum Island.
Skypiea, but detour to Jaya.
Water 7, stop at Train Station, went to EL, returned to Water 7.
Fishman Island, but detour to Thriller Bark.

There's a definite pattern. Once we've heard what the next island will be, we get a detour first, then we go to that Island. We will not get two detours.

2. Flow of Story
At this time it does not make sense to have the SHs captured, or have Luffy captured.

The Kuma Ursa Shock is classic Oda suspense. Make it seem impossible for the SHs, spell D-O-O-M for them with a D-O-N, and then have them get away either by Luck, overcoming their foe, someone being a distraction, someone sacrificing themselves, or worst of all, something saving them.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@freedom:

Arabasta, but detour to Drum Island.
Skypiea, but detour to Jaya.
Water 7, stop at Train Station, went to EL, returned to Water 7.
Fishman Island, but detour to Thriller Bark.

Water 7 Detour to Long Island?

Baks

@freedom:

Fishman Island is next and it should be obvious

2. Flow of Story
At this time it does not make sense to have the SHs captured, or have Luffy captured.

Er why doesn't it make sense to have Luffy get captured? You never heard of a little thing called plot twists. XP

Also we don't where excatly Impel Down is either, for all we know it could be somewhere near Fishman Island.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@Baks:

Er why doesn't it make sense to have Luffy get captured? You never heard of a little thing called plot twists. XP

Also we don't where excatly Impel Down is either, for all we know it could be somewhere near Fishman Island.

They just saved Nico Robin. Another save arc would be repetetive XP

and…
IMPEL DOWN IS BEHIND THE GATES OF JUSTICE
WE DO KNOW THAT!

Impel Down

If Gyojin Island is near Impel Down and there's major Gyojin Pirates, probably captured there, wouldn't the two just being constantly fighting?

Ivotas

Why the smurf should they go elsewhere besides where the log points? Even when they wen´t to Jaya it was just to find a clue on how they could actually get to the place the log was pointing at.

skarlath

good god
please lock this thread

Coolnerd89

Go Fishman Island!

Admiral Wolfpox

@Kitsune::

Never EVER will the crew go to Impel Down. I thought this theory DIED like it should. HOLY FUCK.

Amen to that.

While I appreciate the attempt to build some hype/tension over whether or not the Strawhats will be arrested, the simple fact is that it would destroy the pacing of the story, which is Oda's biggest priority (according to him).

And consider the simple fact that the World Government gave Kuma the orders to kill absolutely everyone who witnessed Moria's defeat/death, not to arrest them. The fact that Kuma gave them a choice means that he was being generous, but since they rejected the offer, he's going to try to kill them, not arrest them. I'm pretty sure we could agree to that.

The question is how they'll survive, not where they'll go.

onemoment

Also, may I add that Fishman Island seems to becoming less and less popular as Thriller Bark goes on. Sure, that's probably because they don't want to leave this arc behind, but I don't see why a Fishman arc would be terrible. I personally consider Arlong Park to be the first epic One Piece arc–and hey, one trip to an aquarium and you could see all the crazy designs that Oda can make with fishmen. But yeah, going to Impel down would be dumb considering that the Enies Lobby arc made a strong point that Impel Down is a "point of no return."

Strohhut-Ruffy

@onemoment:

But yeah, going to Impel down would be dumb considering that the Enies Lobby arc made a strong point that Impel Down is a "point of no return."

The Enie's Lobby-Arc made a strong point that Enie's Lobby is "point of no return" too.
I think an Impel Down-Arc would have many surprises, but it's senseless to make an arc like this now. I think Oda has so many good ideas for the new world in his head, he won't wait any longer as it's necessary to make them SPLODE out of his head.

And this thread is not battle-frankish.

LUCCI DA PIGEON PIMP

For all we know impel down and fishman island can be located in the same area , so it's not impossible to go there .

I remember people saying the SH won't go to eneas lobby during the water 7/EL arc and you all know what happened .

We don't know how the story will go from this point so it's ridiculous to say "they won't go to this place ever , it's imposssible".

Impel down has been mentionned the first time by nami , the second time by spandam , even in miss golden week mini story impel down is mentionned .

It's only a matter of time before we see this place which location is unknow , because "behind the gate of justice " doesn't mean right behind it , when aokiji was talking about W7 he said that the city was near the HQ , marine HQ is "behind the gate of justice" .

Remember that the strawhat are not on a linear road .

Aceburner

As much as I'd love to see Impel Down (And Crocodile again,) Gotta go with Fishman on this one. Prison life doesn't suit Chopper.

Admiral Wolfpox

Remember that the strawhat are not on a linear road .

?????

Then why do they worry about the Log Pose so much? It always points to the next destination!

Gorlom

How long did it take the strawhats to get to the florian triangle?
How long is it expected to take to get to FI from W7?

How long did the train take? And then how long did it take for the Marine HQ behind those big ol gates of justice to mobilize the bustercall and send to EL?

I have a feeling the timelines would make it possible to determine that FI is nowhere near EL. which should be the absolutely closest place to ID to be reasonable with the eternal posts. (I mean there is no point to ship them off to one island just to 10 minutes later ship em off to some other island requireing a totally different eternalpose)

But most of all I'm wondering what the bloody hell a maximum security prison is doing next to a popular tourist resort?
Wouldn't that make it EXTREMELY easy for pirates to infiltrate and break out arrested comerades?

(Bah I'm tired… sorry if my reasoning is a bit vague)

TheGentlemanSkeleton

@Gorlom:

But most of all I'm wondering what the bloody hell a maximum security prison is doing next to a popular tourist resort?
Wouldn't that make it EXTREMELY easy for pirates to infiltrate and break out arrested comerades?

(Bah I'm tired… sorry if my reasoning is a bit vague)

"Maximum Security Prison"
I don't think it would be extremely easy to break out your nakama unless you have the strength, determination and luck of the Straw Hat Pirates.

But anyway Water 7 will be turned into a ship! And it will sail away

King Kobra

Screw the Impel Down and Fishman island, it's time for the strawhats to visit the Island of meat.

I hope Oddz made TB to go straight to Meat Island. Then we could have an epic arc of Luffy fighting off a Butcher and a magical flying Cyborg Cow.

joekido the Second

Impal Down is behind the gate of Justice and it's far from Florian Triangle so why in the red rabbit would the crew go there and why would it be near Fishman Island? I would prefer Fishman Island and I don't know what would be next but we don't need to go to a prison.

NuFiasco

Fishman Island would be or should be a fest full of badass designs knowing how Oda is at his best with designing wacky characters that are oozing the Fantasy.

King Kobra

@NuFiasco:

Fishman Island would be or should be a fest full of badass designs knowing how Oda is at his best with designing wacky characters that are oozing the Fantasy.

No, it wouldn't.

CLERICSHADOW

@LUCCI:

For all we know impel down and fishman island can be located in the same area

wasn't it stated that Impel down was behind the gates of justice? Why would fishman island also be behind the gate of justice? The area where nobody wants to enter of fear of Marines and sea kings? If that were true we would of seen ALOT more pirates at enis lobby just trying to get past the gates…

Bounty1Berry

I want Fishman Island because I think it can add many more details to the world.

Impel Down is a prison. We know what to expect.

We don't know what to expect WRT fishmen. What are their politics and relation to the outside world?

You'd expect to see an Arlong ruling the waves every few kilometres, on strength and capacity alone.

Admiral Wolfpox

Impel Down is a prison. We know what to expect.

I would have to strongly disagree with you there. Impel Down must be something special unlike anything we'd expect in order for it to earn its reputation.

Lobolover

@onemoment:

Also, may I add that Fishman Island seems to becoming less and less popular as Thriller Bark goes on. Sure, that's probably because they don't want to leave this arc behind, but I don't see why a Fishman arc would be terrible. I personally consider Arlong Park to be the first epic One Piece arc–and hey, one trip to an aquarium and you could see all the crazy designs that Oda can make with fishmen. But yeah, going to Impel down would be dumb considering that the Enies Lobby arc made a strong point that Impel Down is a "point of no return."

Im secretly praying for an Ocean Sunfish fishman.If you havent seen one of those,theire absolutely freaky!

!

-heaviest bone fish in the world too (it weighs a damn TUN)

but to the "point of no return" so was Enies Lobby,when first presented and we know how it worked out in the end.

Anyway,I dunno which id want,its 50/50 on both.Though Oda could make it into anything else then a "rescue" arc.

Impel Down

If Impel Down and Gyojin Island were near each other, then wouldn't the Log Pose have pointed…back to Enies Lobby?

Gorlom

It would.
But as far as I can tell we can't prove it didn't… Even if the tracks didn't go in the same direction as the logpose was pointing they could still end up in the same place. the tracks got greater freedom in going off course and around obstacles (such as the Florian triangle fog) then a ship following the logpose.

Or was it somewhere said that it was pointing in a different direction? I can't remeber.

Lobster Pot-Sticker

I want an Impel down arch next… so everybody teams up to save Luffy.

Horrrraaaaay

Or Fishman Island could have and "Impel Down" like prison, because it's all "under water and suuuch".

Sanji The Cook

I hope when they go to Fishman island, they recruit a fishman for nakama!

Lobolover

thats one of the reasons I dont think it will happen.

Too many people want it.Though who knows what are the feelings in Japan?

Admiral Wolfpox

Oh my goodnes….

how many times do I have to tell you people...

KUMA IS TRYING TO KILL THEM ALL NOW! THERE IS NO CAPTURING OR ARRESTING THEM! THEY DIDN'T TAKE HIS OFFER TO CAPTURE LUFFY! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

becomes an alcoholic due to Arlong Park-related depression

Lobolover

come to OPHQ,youd be needed around there.

Impel Down

With the Gyojin recruitment thing, it's actually more of a Merman Island, according to Kokoro, but maybe they both live there.

I don't know.

Gorlom

Gyojin literally means fishman, merman was spelled differently.

And as far as i can remember Kokoro said that merfolk "also lives there".

shinpanman

I would really prefer it if they just went to Fishman Island, not that Impel Down is likely to happen. Enies Lobby was great and all but I don't think I wanna see another huge run-in with the government so soon. Besides, with Fishman Island there's more room for Oda to be creative with designs and concepts. I'm really looking forward to it.

CLERICSHADOW

@Admiral:

Oh my goodnes….

how many times do I have to tell you people...

KUMA IS TRYING TO KILL THEM ALL NOW! THERE IS NO CAPTURING OR ARRESTING THEM! THEY DIDN'T TAKE HIS OFFER TO CAPTURE LUFFY! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

becomes an alcoholic due to Arlong Park-related depression

Coming from the guy who predicted that Blackbeard would come to thriller bark, have Moria make Aces body into a zombie, and have a big final fight all in one arc..