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      Still i wonder why Robin didnt say anything.. maybe she realizes the Sh dont stand a chance against Kuma?

      She's not really the type for an emotional scream out, her face always looks indifferent to everything, basically cold, I thought that would change after Enies Lobby, but I guess thats just her…....

      "Sleep brings no rest to me; The shadows of the death my wakening eyes may never see surround my bed"-Emily Bronte(The Horrors of Sleep)

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        Where is the japanese RAW!?

        I wanna have it too!

        What about a Kylara Raw!? Still no sign of it!?

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          @Ikki-Kun:

          Where is the japanese RAW!?
          I wanna have it too!
          What about a Kylara Raw!? Still no sign of it!?

          I recommend bookmarking mangahelpers.

          http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23665

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            WTF Kuma is amazing… But what the hell is wrong with his body... Sanji kicked him straight into the face...

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              so Perona wasn't teleported… I guess she was atomized with a very highspeed air attack. Sounds logical

              Looks bad for the SHs I mean even if Ruffy wakes up there is no food in sight. Gear2nd needs so much energy.. It just looks very very bad for them...

              Scenario: SH get captured and imprisoned, Logport loads up to another island, no Brooke in the crew, about 10 chapters of "How to flee from WG"

              Sorry, just had 4 hours of sleep

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                THE best chapter in MONTHS.

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                  I still don't understand Kuma's fruit.

                  What do bear pads have to do with repelling air and teleporting PTR's sex objects?

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                    Luffy does not need meat. All he needs is the news of Ace

                    Kuma : Luffy your fate will be the same as your brother
                    Luffy : Brother? Ace ! what happen to Ace ?
                    Kuma : Don't worry, you will join him soon !
                    Lyffy : Gear 2

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                      Kuma has a great devil fruit power,I can't find Brook anywhere in this chapter either he's planning to do something awesome or is hiding

                      Kamen Rider OOOs

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                        I still don't understand Kuma's fruit.

                        What do bear pads have to do with repelling air and teleporting PTR's sex objects?

                        I will totally try to come up with something out of the blue here, but here is my explanation:

                        Lets say paw pads(the part of a paw Kuma seems to have on his hand) help animals like bears, cats etc. while running or climbing, since they offer additional traction with the surface allowing a better grip.

                        Kuma's power takes that to another level since it offers so much traction that even air gets "gripped" while he moves them allowing him to concentrate alot of air on a small place, so he can manipulate air pressure and the such. That way he reflects the air around.

                        The teleportation is a greater mistery, since we didn't see much of what happens, people just dissapear, maybe he just sends them flying or something….....

                        "Sleep brings no rest to me; The shadows of the death my wakening eyes may never see surround my bed"-Emily Bronte(The Horrors of Sleep)

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                          The bear pads are probably an in-universe coincidence.

                          When he ate his fruit they grew on his hands so he could use his powers and that was probably the shape the came in, thus his bear theme is complete.

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                            damn! kuma is a badass! lol

                            he's definitely stronger than moria

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                              ^…nooo, no there's really no evidence that he's stronger than Moria.

                              I mean, Moria already understood his power when he came to TB, so he'd have that advantage over him. His ability to switch places with Doppelman would also let him dodge the attacks, since Kuma can only accelerate his attacks, but not make them totally unblockable.

                              And maybe if he used something faster than scissors to cut shadows with, he could de-shadow Kuma after a few switches of his shadows and some Black Bat attacks.

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                                Damn, this is getting exciting, i wonder how they will escape/finish Kuma.

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                                  Great chapter, a very nice way to end the year if you ask me.

                                  So… did Brook run away? I guess he's not showing a lot of nakamaship there. :ermm:

                                  And yea, Robin isn't showing a lot of emotion there. But I guess it's not her style. Did she even have one facefault at all?

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                                    Brook is there on page 11… but where he is later... i dunno

                                    maybe he's getting more big bag o' salt?

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                                      Hm, Kuma's ability doesn't sound too tough for one character to deal with. Namely… BROOKE! Brooke's air shot (forgot the name- the one Ryuuma used better than him) should counter the paws quite well. Unlike Zoro's pound cannon and Franky's Coup de Vent, Brooke can probably deliver his attacks fast and in many different places. Kuma doesn't seem really fast, what with his decision to tank attacks from Sanji and block Zoro. I'd also like to see a Brooke vs. Kuma match because Kuma's paw thing that he did against Franky damaged him internally- a skeleton's got no internal organs!!!

                                      Then again, it's pretty crazy to imagine Brooke BEATING Kuma, but maybe he'll scare him off or something. Seriously, what's up with Kuma's bounty?! Moria got owned so easily in comparison to how the Strawhats are dealing with Kuma. I don't think I'll make it these three weeks to find out what's happening next. Well, you know what this means... TIME MACHINE TIME!!!

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                                        THE best chapter in MONTHS.

                                        Seconded. Defintely one of the best fights of the arc. I loved that Oda-sensei decided to hear the fan outrcy and give Zoro some goddamn limelight here!
                                        Sanji being the first one to rush to his aid was pretty "cute" too.

                                        Kuma may actually be weaker than Odz or Moria. The strawhats just need to get around his power.
                                        I saw Brooke in this chapter, so I'm guessing he scooped up the SH's just before the giant explosion went off.

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                                        Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.

                                        Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.

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                                          nooo! i want more brook action! brook for president! brook for new nakama! brook will end global warming! ❤ brook! where is he! more brook!

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                                            nooo! i want more brook action! brook for president! brook for new nakama! brook will end global warming! ❤ brook! where is he! more brook!

                                            Actually if someone could end global warming it could be Nami with a very big power up. 😛

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                                              I might have missed this discussion, but according to Wikipedia the English name of the chapter is "Squishy." Is this true?

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                                                @Ao:

                                                Seconded. Defintely one of the best fights of the arc. I loved that Oda-sensei decided to hear the fan outrcy and give Zoro some goddamn limelight here!
                                                Sanji being the first one to rush to his aid was pretty "cute" too.

                                                Kuma may actually be weaker than Odz or Moria. The strawhats just need to get around his power.
                                                I saw Brooke in this chapter, so I'm guessing he scooped up the SH's just before the giant explosion went off.

                                                Its tuff to judge kuma's strength depending on how injured the SHP are but the thing that stands out to me is when he gets kicked by sanji and sanji is in pain meaning his body has to be stronger than the CP9 member that sanji defeated.

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                                                    Sanji being the first one to rush to his aid was pretty "cute" too.

                                                    That made me think more about this crazy theory I heard once about Sanji actually being gay. After all, it's like you need hearts in your eyes and act like a complete idiot to show your love to someone-

                                                    Anyways, I wonder if Sanji can't go into "Fire leg" mode anymore. Oda never mentioned anything about a limit, but perhaps his shoes can't actually stand that much friction being used in a row.

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                                                        Kuma has a very interesting power. It's definitely different from other powers that we have seen before. This just shows the power of such characters with such high bounties. Moria with Shadows Asgard cracked the entire island in two. Kuma just destroyed everything in the vicinity. They can't win fighting him. No way. Now, what will happen?

                                                        This is a another great chapter.

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                                                          It's good to be a OP fan.

                                                          I'm definitely not reading the next spoilers.

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                                                            Still wonders about the steel-body but Oda will explai it later…

                                                            but I'm the only one here who thinks that Zoro is a bit to cocky... 1. He wnted to handle Odz alone = defeat and now the second time... and it is a bit ironic that Sanji came first to save him... (I like Zoro)

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                                                              well brooks dissappeared from the whole chapter, if i'm remembering correctly weren't brooks/rymous attacks simular to thoses of kuma. Maybe brooks is going to make a small attack give the crew a small pocket of untouched area for them to survive the attack.

                                                              If what i think happened above happens i think were going to see Zoro taking the fight seriously with the wearing of the green bandana as well as using his 3rd sword. Its just the way Zoro was talking throught out the chapter, even when sanji helped him he was kinda pissed of by it. But i highly doubt Zoro will face him now, but if they do escape im thinking Kuma will be Zoro's next opponent when they meet again, comon kumas is said to have skin as tough as steel, This seems like another barrier Zoro may want to face by himself.

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                                                                Here is my theory.

                                                                Kuma did in fact kill Perona. He used his paw ability to reflect the bombs she made back at her which blew her up. The reason he asked her "if you had a vacation where would you go" was like a last rites for her to think of so she would have a good idea where she would like to be if she were to die. Unfortunately, she did. EITHER THAT, or he used his power to fling her into a vicinity where there was a creepy mansion where he looked up on his book, whic may say bible on it, but may have other things.

                                                                His ability to "teleport" is his own version of the CP9's fast moving ability "Soru". He moves so fast not even a blur can be seen. My hypothesis is HE is the one who introduced the Six-style moves. My evidence to believe this is when Sanji kicked Kuma in the face and reeled in pain from doing so. This is Kuma using Tekkai. It has nothing to do at all with his paw-paw ability.

                                                                As for the paw-paw fruit. Animals have paws as to reduce friction and reduce workload while walking. In Kuma's case, his paws are so frictionless that anything that comes in to contact with it can be reflected, even air. Combined with his knowledge of this six-styles, he basically use Shigan with his paws…he can push the air at such force that it creates something like a sonic boom. Explosions are basically like that: its not the fire that destroys, but the extreme pressures of fast moving air that shatters things to bits. Not only that, it makes the distinctive "BOOM", caused by the air molecules moving faster than this speed of sound...exactly like a sonic boom. As for his Ursa Shock, using his paws to circulate the air in an area and condensing it without any difficulty can only be achieved by having such frictionless hands and ridiculous strength. Violent-kun Kuma is probably the only guy who can think of and such a devastating attack...I am on the edge of my seat wondering what will happen to the crew. His "100-open hand pressure cannon" is done in the stance that Sumo Wrestlers take when pushing against their opponent; just something I would also like to point out.

                                                                PS: If I repeated anything said in this topic earlier, my apologies, I don't read through every post.

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                                                                  according to Wikipedia

                                                                  Never, never say this on the forums…

                                                                  and the word "puni" is the noise that sanji's attack makes against Kuma's head

                                                                  It says it one the first page... edit: or it says it somewhere...

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                                                                  I fuck my mom and then suck on my own dick.

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                                                                    well brooks dissappeared from the whole chapter, if i'm remembering correctly weren't brooks/rymous attacks simular to thoses of kuma. Maybe brooks is going to make a small attack give the crew a small pocket of untouched area for them to survive the attack.

                                                                    Brook's in like only two panels and in one of them he's being blocked by Sanji and a speech bubble

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                                                                      Kuma has a very interesting power. It's definitely different from other powers that we have seen before. This just shows the power of such characters with such high bounties. Moria with Shadows Asgard cracked the entire island in two. Kuma just destroyed everything in the vicinity. They can't win fighting him. No way. Now, what will happen?

                                                                      This is a another great chapter.

                                                                      The way I see this, Zoro has a very good chance of beating Kuma. Most of Kuma's projectiles attacks are air, Kuma is fast enough to reflect Zoro's close range sword attacks. Asura should be able to put down Kuma. The reason why I think Asura should be able to end this fight, is because Kuma will have no way of being able to deflect all 3 of Zoros sowrds. The illusions will mix them up. As for kuma's projectile air attacks, I think Zoro's ichibugin can tear past them just like he did against Kaku's Amanedacji.

                                                                      IIRC the last time Zoro used Toro Nagashi was against Hatchan, good show Oda.

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                                                                        I just gave up on remembering Zoro's attacks, after a while. I know my cannons and that's all I need.

                                                                        But I would welcome Brook coming up with some new attack to save them again, because he seems to be doing that this chapter to prove his worth as a crew member. Although, I don't really see what he could do, besides maybe an attack that's so fast that Kuma can't realize it, therefore not deflect it.

                                                                        Wait, can he only reflect/accelerate with his paws? Because Sanji kicked him in the head and nothing happened, but I dunno if that's because of his DF or because he's, well, massive.

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                                                                          Despite how much it makes me roll my eyes around when people are expecting death to make a cameo in OP, there's a slight chance of Perona actually being dead.

                                                                          I mean, when I think of a ghost DF, I would think that it'd turn the user into one. Perhaps she'd go on "living" as a ghost, as in being permanently as during the astral projection-thing. Hilarity would ensue!

                                                                          Then again, it might be a bit too much like Brook's DF, being sort of reincarnation-ish. So I'll just continue groaning over the neverending ramblings of how she was sent flying in the speed of light and ended up as a cloud of goo or whatever.

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                                                                            Zoro will learn a Bakuryuuha-Esque move and cut trough Kuma's explosion to send all back at him at once.

                                                                            Well, I was wondering if Zoro could find a way to counter the explosions, since you know, Kuma's wind travells at light speed….

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                                                                              The way I see this, Zoro has a very good chance of beating Kuma. Most of Kuma's projectiles attacks are air, Kuma is fast enough to reflect Zoro's close range sword attacks. Asura should be able to put down Kuma. The reason why I think Asura should be able to end this fight, is because Kuma will have no way of being able to deflect all 3 of Zoros sowrds. The illusions will mix them up. As for kuma's projectile air attacks, I think Zoro's ichibugin can tear past them just like he did against Kaku's Amanedacji.

                                                                              IIRC the last time Zoro used Toro Nagashi was against Hatchan, good show Oda.

                                                                              Correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like Kuma took a kick by Sanji in the face (Diable leg?) and didn't flinch. The same Sanji who was kicking pieces of buildings a few chapters ago. Sanji hurt his leg with the attack!

                                                                              Even if Zorro manages to use Asura to hit Kuma, I fail to see how (even if he got four out of the nine slashes in) it would finish off a Shichibukai of Kuma's caliber. Hell Asura shocked the hell out of Kaku do you see Kuma a man called the TYRANT wetting his pants and flinching like that?

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                                                                                She's not really the type for an emotional scream out, her face always looks indifferent to everything, basically cold, I thought that would change after Enies Lobby, but I guess thats just her…....

                                                                                Really? I would think that Robin's expression is very powerful in this chapter. It says to me, "never and I'm going to fight you."

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                                                                                Great chapter, a very nice way to end the year if you ask me.

                                                                                So… did Brook run away? I guess he's not showing a lot of nakamaship there. :ermm:

                                                                                And yea, Robin isn't showing a lot of emotion there. But I guess it's not her style. Did she even have one facefault at all?

                                                                                Well, let me reintroduce my theory.

                                                                                Does anyone find it odd that, in the face of Kuma's abilities, that he hasn't shown any action or emotion at all? It seems weird, and I doubt that Oda forgot him considering that every character and extra got screentime this chapter.
                                                                                I think Brooke is up to something, but I don't know what. My gut feeling is that Brooke may unveil a new ability which could provide the crew with a distraction to leave.

                                                                                Oh yeah, also, at this point I think Moria is stronger then Kuma based on his current abilities. I mean, even if Moria can't take a Sanji kick to the face (assuming that not part of Kuma's ability), Doppelman and Nightmare Moria are strong as hell.

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                                                                                  BF says it won't be out until about the 18th or 19th.

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                                                                                  Yeah, you guys will get it earlier than me since I (usually) wait for JUMP to be released here. This time I just couldn't wait though.

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                                                                                    looking at kuma's paw power and I think he can only reflect attacks that he see since sanji got a clean hit on him and he came from behind to do so.

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                                                                                      Oh yeah, also, at this point I think Moria is stronger then Kuma based on his current abilities. I mean, even if Moria can't take a Sanji kick to the face (assuming that not part of Kuma's ability), Doppelman and Nightmare Moria are strong as hell.

                                                                                      Moria's abilities are just of an entirely different nature. He may not be as much of a 1 on 1 pure fighter, but every single Zombie on Thriller Bark, including Odr, was a result of Moria's power. The ability to create an extremely powerful immortal army that obeys your every wish (even Odr listened to commands after a while) is pretty impressive, even if he did have some help from Hogback with the bodies.

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                                                                                        Correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like Kuma took a kick by Sanji in the face (Diable leg?) and didn't flinch. The same Sanji who was kicking pieces of buildings a few chapters ago. Sanji hurt his leg with the attack!

                                                                                        Even if Zorro manages to use Asura to hit Kuma, I fail to see how (even if he got four out of the nine slashes in) it would finish off a Shichibukai of Kuma's caliber. Hell Asura shocked the hell out of Kaku do you see Kuma a man called the TYRANT wetting his pants and flinching like that?

                                                                                        Zoro's Asura ichibugin attack was able to tear past Kaku's Amanedachi (The strongest Rankyaku) like toilet paper. I don't think Sanji could Kick past a Amanedachi. Asura is not really used to make anyone wet his/her pants, but give Zoro a chance to hit the opponet's with all three swords at full force. I don't see Kuma blocking/deflecting Zoro's 3 swords with the illusions mixing things up.

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                                                                                          Zoro's Asura ichibugin attack was able to tear past Kaku's Amanedachi (The strongest Rankyaku) like toilet paper. I don't think Sanji could Kick past a Amanedachi. Asura is not really used to make anyone wet his/her pants, but give Zoro a chance to hit the opponet's with all three swords at full force. I don't see Kuma blocking/deflecting Zoro's 3 swords with the illusions mixing things up.

                                                                                          You're comparing Kaku the second strongest Cp9 member who received a DF moments before the straw hats invaded to a beast (from what we've seen so far) Schibukai Kuma.

                                                                                          Come on Sanji was kicking large pieces of buildings and had them spinning towards Oz like soccer balls

                                                                                          http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/475/07/

                                                                                          http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/475/08/

                                                                                          Which is a ridiculous feat and (as of this moment) it seems like Kuma tanked it right in the face. Just from that we see that Kuma's durability is leagues ahead of Kaku's someone who if I recall was afraid of being hit by Zorro's basic attacks.

                                                                                          Kuma being defeated by an attack we've already seen take someone (who's a bum compared to Kuma IMO) down in a one one fight (by an already injured Zorro) would be a sin.

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                                                                                            Even if Zorro manages to use Asura to hit Kuma, I fail to see how (even if he got four out of the nine slashes in) it would finish off a Shichibukai of Kuma's caliber. Hell Asura shocked the hell out of Kaku do you see Kuma a man called the TYRANT wetting his pants and flinching like that?

                                                                                            Zoro can cut through whatever he wants to cut, he developed that ability when he fought Mr. 1. Even if Kuma is making his body as hard as steel, Zoro can cut steel, so that wouldn't be an issue. I don't really think Kuma's gonna fight much more this arc, though. Maybe a little bit next chapter, but I think that the attack he unleashed on Thriller Bark meant that the Straw Hats are just gonna have to leave and worry about Kuma later.

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                                                                                              Zoro can cut through whatever he wants to cut, he developed that ability when he fought Mr. 1.

                                                                                              I'm not so sure about that.

                                                                                              And just because he manages to get a hit on Kuma that doesn't equal automatic win.

                                                                                              Though I agree Kuma will not be fighting much longer

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                                                                                                @yvj:

                                                                                                You're comparing Kaku the second strongest Cp9 member who received a DF moments before the straw hats invaded to a beast (from what we've seen so far) Schibukai Kuma.

                                                                                                Come on Sanji was kicking large pieces of buildings and had them spinning towards Oz like soccer balls

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                                                                                                Which is a ridiculous feat and (as of this moment) it seems like Kuma tanked it right in the face. Just from that we see that Kuma's durability is leagues ahead of Kaku's someone who if I recall was afraid of being hit by Zorro's basic attacks.

                                                                                                Kuma being defeated by an attack we've already seen take someone (who's a bum compared to Kuma IMO) down in a one one fight (by an already injured Zorro) would be a sin.

                                                                                                Kuma dodged Zoro's 1st attack, & blocked/reflected the other. If Zoro hits Kuma with all 3 of his swords at full force Kuma would be in trouble, Seeing how that Zoro using all 3 of his swords at full force is able to trash the strongest Rankyaku (Amanedachi) that can cut steel with no problem at all, seeing how weaker versons of the Rankyaku can cut steel. Just because Sanji didn't hurt Kuma does not mean Zoro can't, Kuma did dodge Zoro's attacks instead of tank them, like he did Sanji's.

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                                                                                                  Am I missing something here? I thought Kuma did reflect all three of Zoro's swords.

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                                                                                                    Am I missing something here? I thought Kuma did reflect all three of Zoro's swords.

                                                                                                    Yes, you are missing something.:)

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                                                                                                    The way I see this, Zoro has a very good chance of beating Kuma. Most of Kuma's projectiles attacks are air, Kuma is fast enough to reflect Zoro's close range sword attacks. Asura should be able to put down Kuma. The reason why I think Asura should be able to end this fight, is because Kuma will have no way of being able to deflect all 3 of Zoros sowrds. The illusions will mix them up. As for kuma's projectile air attacks, I think Zoro's ichibugin can tear past them just like he did against Kaku's Amanedacji.

                                                                                                    IIRC the last time Zoro used Toro Nagashi was against Hatchan, good show Oda.

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                                                                                                      Jimbei, let it go. This is insane character fanboyism. I've been there man, let it go! This isn't Zoro's moment, wait for the next arc.

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                                                                                                        It seems that to some people Asura is the end all be all. The way people talk about it, you'd think it was the most broken technique ever.

                                                                                                        Especially since it managed to defeat a less than stellar Kaku. Who was the second strongest member of his team.

                                                                                                        So Asura (and three slashes) + Zorro using a sword he hasn't master yet + Zorro with broken bones = automatic win against a fresh Shichibukai who has already shown in a single chapter he possibly has a truckload more durability then then Kaku, and has the crew on their heels.

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